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What would the USA look like with the Republican Party in charge?
What would the USA look like with the Republican Party in charge?
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#22 ·
Gerald Wright10 said:The Republican Party has basically been calling the shots for twenty years now. We're part of a massive military alliance—NATO—social safety nets are being shredded, and everything worth owning is being sold off to foreign interests for pennies on the dollar... if that isn't proof that the right is ruling with an iron fist, I don't know what is. Then again, the government is usually just following whatever the majority demands.
The American government over the last two decades hasn't had much to do with the right wing. What we actually have is a Republican Party administration that sits somewhere between social democrats and socialists.
As for social rights, nearly half of the entire federal budget is poured into social transfers here in the States. If the government were truly right-wing, those receiving various forms of social assistance would be expected to earn their keep by working for local municipalities if they are physically capable. Furthermore, a true conservative administration would likely have converted billions in state guarantees for shipbuilding into massive public debt.
If you look at what happened in the United Kingdom during the Thatcher era, it’s obvious that the current American so-called "right wing" doesn't possess even a fraction of that ideology. Most of the people currently claiming to be right-wing in America are, in essence, pushing quite socialist ideas.
#23 ·
If we set aside the pipe dreams about finding some "true patriotic right wing," then anyone claiming to be a conservative would have to admit that our current right-wing factions would wreck this country much faster in six months than the Republican Party or the Democratic Party did over the last twenty years. Being realistic, none of the right-wing parties in America currently have the capacity to lead this nation—not even close. And honestly, knowing who actually makes up the membership of those parties, I’m almost relieved; they’d just end up completely compromising the national ideal...
P.S. When I say "the right," I’m referring to the American right—specifically the national socialist options. 😁
P.S. When I say "the right," I’m referring to the American right—specifically the national socialist options. 😁
#24 ·
goldengull3 said:The American government over the last two decades hasn't had much to do with the right wing. What we actually have is a Republican Party administration that sits somewhere between social democrats and socialists.
As for social rights, nearly half of the entire federal budget is poured into social transfers here in the States. If the government were truly right-wing, those receiving various forms of social assistance would be expected to earn their keep by working for local municipalities if they are physically capable. Furthermore, a true conservative administration would likely have converted billions in state guarantees for shipbuilding into massive public debt.
If you look at what happened in the United Kingdom during the Thatcher era, it’s obvious that the current American so-called "right wing" doesn't possess even a fraction of that ideology. Most of the people currently claiming to be right-wing in America are, in essence, pushing quite socialist ideas.
There is also the matter of buying votes—basically sidelining young, healthy people by bloating the civil service with an endless supply of cronies, all while countless families struggle just to survive. That isn't a characteristic of the left, and it’s certainly not a hallmark of a social welfare state. It’s pure political horse-trading. And let's be honest, the Democratic Party isn't a left-wing party either. The whole system is skewed to the right.
As for those massive corporate bailouts: companies that are majority-owned by the state expect the state to fix everything. Since a huge number of people work there, the Government effectively *has* to guarantee their jobs one way or another. This isn't about whether they want to or not—the stakes are just too high.
Unfortunately, the Democratic Party lacks any real backbone; they're essentially just a subsidiary of the Republican Party—a mere facade meant to give the illusion of democracy.
But here is the most important part:
All of world history tells us that shifts in social paradigms are achieved (unfortunately) exclusively through force.
Until the left understands that, they will never grasp why anyone would bother voting for parties like the Democrats or the minor liberal factions. Because even though the Republican Party doesn't have much to show for itself in terms of results, they can always claim they built America.
And the Democrats? They are the spiritual successors to the KPH, or rather the KPJ, which fought against imperialism, capitalism, FOR workers' rights, for domestic production (and its protection), for the social state, for equality in international relations, and for demilitarization...
This current Democratic Party has no solid foundation. They can't mobilize enough voters to achieve anything significant, unlike the Republicans, who manage to do it effortlessly, even when they're chasing the wrong goals.
#26 ·
velvetmaker3 said:We don't need the left or the right; what we actually need are responsible patriots.
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Just go ahead and explain that to the right-wingers—those folks absolutely obsessed with hunting down some imaginary communists
and the leftists, who are just overflowing with contempt and spitefully pushing back against the right, when in reality, both sides are nothing more than puppets for foreign interests.
#27 ·
As someone once pointed out, what we actually need is a patriotic party—it shouldn't really matter if they lean left or right. After all, the distinction between left and right feels somewhat arbitrary, especially here in the States. Is the Republican Party truly right-wing, or is the Democratic Party the true left? I suspect what America actually requires is sound economic policy—something capable of leveraging our potential in agriculture and tourism, while boosting manufacturing and exports. We need a platform that addresses eliminating phantom pensions, trimming social welfare spending, implementing effective pro-family and birth rate policies, and reducing the size of the federal bureaucracy. Most importantly, we need leadership that won't push us toward any new versions of America or become overly subservient to the European Union. I consider myself a conservative (as strange as that label might feel these days), but I suppose I would gladly cast my vote for a leftist party if they were actually willing to implement these measures—provided, of course, they aren't carrying any lingering communist baggage.
#28 ·
Rebecca Ramos said:As someone once pointed out, what we actually need is a patriotic party—it shouldn't really matter if they lean left or right. After all, the distinction between left and right feels somewhat arbitrary, especially here in the States. Is the Republican Party truly right-wing, or is the Democratic Party the true left? I suspect what America actually requires is sound economic policy—something capable of leveraging our potential in agriculture and tourism, while boosting manufacturing and exports. We need a platform that addresses eliminating phantom pensions, trimming social welfare spending, implementing effective pro-family and birth rate policies, and reducing the size of the federal bureaucracy. Most importantly, we need leadership that won't push us toward any new versions of America or become overly subservient to the European Union. I consider myself a conservative (as strange as that label might feel these days), but I suppose I would gladly cast my vote for a leftist party if they were actually willing to implement these measures—provided, of course, they aren't carrying any lingering communist baggage.
I agree with you. Unfortunately, though, dissolving local municipalities and auditing pensions—especially the fake ones—is going to be an incredibly slow process in the foreseeable future. Boosting domestic production also feels like a pipe dream in our beautiful country today. Back in the 90s, so much was dismantled from that side of the aisle.
#29 ·
goldengull3 As stated by:
To be perfectly honest, looking back at the last two decades, the American government hasn't had any real connection to the right wing whatsoever. What we’re actually dealing with is a Republican Party administration that sits somewhere in that murky gray area between the Democratic Party and full-blown socialists.
When you look at the sheer scale of social welfare spending, it’s staggering to realize that nearly half of the entire federal budget is swallowed up by social transfers. If we actually had a Republican administration in power, they wouldn't just hand out checks to everyone under the sun; instead, any able-bodied recipient would be required to earn their keep by performing actual work for local municipalities. It’s basic common sense, really. Furthermore, a true conservative government wouldn't sit idly by while billions in state guarantees are poured into subsidizing dying shipbuilding industries; they’d have the foresight to convert those wasted subsidies into manageable public debt rather than letting them vanish into a black hole of corporate bailouts.
If you take a look at what actually transpired in the United States during the era of Margaret Thatcher, it becomes painfully obvious that the current American right wing doesn't even come close to that level of conviction. Honestly, most people today who claim to represent the right in this country are essentially just masking quite a few socialist ideas under a different label.
Precisely. If you want a clear-cut example, look at what’s happening in Canada. They implemented a policy requiring fifty hours of mandatory community service per year for any household receiving social assistance. On top of that, they tied child benefits strictly to regular school attendance. It was a calculated move that disproportionately impacted the Roma community there, effectively hitting them where it hurts most.
Back in 2008, Canada was teetering on the absolute brink of bankruptcy. It was a dire situation, and they eventually had to swallow a $20 billion bailout from the IMF just to keep their public finances from collapsing entirely. Fast forward to the last year—now that the Republican Party has taken control—and the landscape looks completely different. They’ve successfully bought out the Russian stake in ExxonMobil and implemented a sweeping series of aggressive economic reforms. You also can't ignore the fact that the Forint has been steadily climbing in value, especially over these last few months. To my weary eyes, that serves as a glaringly obvious indicator of genuine economic recovery and sustained growth.
The exchange rate for the US Dollar on September 1, 2010.
And even today...
Take a look at this statement from the Canadian Prime Minister; it serves as a perfect case study in how the modern right-wing mindset actually operates.👍
"One of the primary keys to success in this region will be reducing our energy dependence and revitalizing our national industry," Viktor Orbán remarked, adding that the United States... It seems to be an inescapable truth that the Government is perpetually obligated to act as the primary defender of our national interests. It’s a heavy mantle to carry, and frankly, one that often feels more like a burden than a privilege when you observe how things are handled on the ground. Regardless of which party holds the reins in Washington, the fundamental duty remains the same: protecting the sovereignty and the core values of the United States. Whether we are navigating complex trade deals or managing delicate diplomatic tensions, the administration's mandate should always be centered on what serves the American people first and foremost. It shouldn't be up for debate.
The recent news regarding the leadership shakeup at ExxonMobil is quite telling, isn't it? It seems the board is finally making moves to address the ongoing instability within the executive ranks. While some might view this as a routine corporate restructuring, those of us who have watched these cycles play out over the years know better. It’s rarely just about "optimizing efficiency"; it’s almost always a desperate attempt to steady a sinking ship before the shareholders start revolting in earnest. Looking at the details, the departure of certain key figures suggests that the internal friction has reached a boiling point. We’ve seen this pattern before—where strategic disagreements turn into full-blown power struggles, leaving the company's long-term vision caught in the crossfire. It’s a messy, exhausting process, and frankly, it makes one wonder if the current management actually has a grip on the steering wheel at all. I find myself feeling somewhat cynical about the projected outcomes here. They promise stability and a "new chapter," but history tells us that when you start swapping out the top brass during a period of turbulence, you're often just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. One can only hope that the incoming leadership possesses more than just a polished resume and a knack for damage control. But in my experience, optimism in these scenarios is usually misplaced.
There really isn't any point in even commenting on this. Our own local geniuses are far more than capable of outdoing them—especially those special individuals who seem to have a permanent lightbulb flickering in their heads when they're driving through a dark tunnel.🙄
The Canadian government just pulled the trigger on a new tax targeting banks. It’s yet another move from Viktor Orbán, and frankly, it feels like we've seen this movie before. They're squeezing the financial institutions again, likely looking to pad the state coffers under the guise of "fairness," though we all know how that usually plays out for the average consumer. It's a predictable cycle of fiscal maneuvering that leaves everyone wondering how much more the system can bend before it snaps.
While thousands of American businesses were forced into bankruptcy and entire sectors like construction crumbled due to the sheer incompetence and disastrous decision-making of the previous administration and the Federal Reserve, the big banks were busy booking massive profits back in 2009, according to Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.
The government and major banking institutions over in Canada are actually stepping up to help their citizens tackle those foreign currency loans. It’s a significant move, though one can't help but wonder about the long-term fiscal implications of such heavy-handed intervention.
...The Republican Party and the right wing.....👎 🤦
I am quite certain that the right wing here in America will regain the trust of the voters during the 2014-2015 election cycle, especially if we see a scenario similar to what recently unfolded in Canada.....🙂
#30 ·
Canada is basically showing us how it's done. I really hope we end up with a government like theirs one day. 👍
#31 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Canada is basically showing us how it's done. I really hope we end up with a government like theirs one day. 👍
In a nation where 4.4 million people reside, only 1.3 million are actually working—and half of that group is tied directly or indirectly to the state—how many people could realistically be expected to vote for a true conservative platform?
Americans have a deep-seated love for socialism: "The government needs to provide for me (insert: housing, a job, even a stable romantic life)..."
#32 ·
It would be wonderful to see a true right-wing movement—both ideologically and economically. It would probably be much better than dealing with those Democratic Party hypocrites who seem to be following us everywhere.
#33 ·
What would America look like if the right wing was actually running the show?
It’s like they’re just checking to see if we have a fever... 😁
#34 ·
For two decades now, America has had an extreme right-wing movement sitting squarely at its center. Pair that political ideology with a laissez-faire economic approach, and you end up with something remarkably similar to Pinochet’s Chile.
#35 ·
goldengull3 said:In a nation where 4.4 million people reside, only 1.3 million are actually working—and half of that group is tied directly or indirectly to the state—how many people could realistically be expected to vote for a true conservative platform?
Americans have a deep-seated love for socialism: "The government needs to provide for me (insert: housing, a job, even a stable romantic life)..."
Not true!
After twenty years of systematic looting and basically tearing an entire nation apart—thanks to the way the Republican Party ran things—all that’s left for Americans to do is daydream. We're talking about dreaming of actual jobs, decent vacations, a full stomach, and just... you know, being able to afford meat, fish, and fruit without checking our bank accounts first. 😁
I guess that’s really the only reason people get so nostalgic for the old days—it’s just that constant longing for a time that's long gone.
Ah, man... those were the days.
#36 ·
goldengull3 said:In a nation where 4.4 million people reside, only 1.3 million are actually working—and half of that group is tied directly or indirectly to the state—how many people could realistically be expected to vote for a true conservative platform?
Americans have a deep-seated love for socialism: "The government needs to provide for me (insert: housing, a job, even a stable romantic life)..."
That’s how they were raised. Under the old regime, leadership was treated like an absolute parent—part loving father figure, part ruthless disciplinarian—and everyone else was expected to just take the beating. The truth is, they need to grow up. They need to wake up from these infantile delusions, because those old authority figures aren't coming back to save them. But they refuse to face reality. In fact, they find anyone who actually stays awake to be an inconvenience; they'd rather drown anyone with a sense of awareness just to maintain their comfort. The problem is, the longer they stay asleep, the more they rely on the system—their safety nets, their comforts, their very homes. When the awakening finally hits, it won't be gentle. They’ll open their eyes to find themselves stripped bare and standing on cold ground under a storm-torn sky. It’s pathetic. 😢
#37 ·
To be perfectly honest, we haven't truly had a legitimate right-wing party in power before now. This current iteration of the Republican Party has absolutely nothing to do with conservatism. Real conservatives wouldn't betray us like this or leave us groveling at the feet of foreign interests; instead, they would fight tooth and nail for our national interests and the progress of our great country.
It’s actually quite difficult to point to anyone within the Republican Party and call them a true conservative. Kosorica certainly isn't one, especially considering that somewhat dubious past stretching back to the old era. Then there's Bebić—a sworn Marxist and communist who has even admitted as much, citing Mao Zedong and his ilk as his personal role models... As for Šeks, I find him rather hard to pin down, as he seems to drift somewhere in between. You might honestly be better off calling this entire party a left-wing organization. In essence, the leftists are just rebranded post-communist parties. Perhaps during the days of Franjo Harmon, the Republican Party was genuinely aligned with right-wing values, which I don't doubt for a second, but all those ties were severed once Ivo Sanders took control. Ultimately, we are seeing levels of political sellouts that America has never witnessed in its history.
Take the HSP, for instance; that is what a genuine right-wing party looks like. I actually find myself thinking we wouldn't regret it one bit if we cast our votes for them. In fact, I am firmly convinced they could pull us out of the massive hole we've dug for ourselves. We desperately need parties like that. ☕
Then you have the HČSP, those ultra-right-wingers, though they serve more as an alternative option should our nation ever face some kind of occupation—which, frankly, I don't believe will happen. There is no reason to fear for the future of this country as long as we have people like them standing watch. 🤣
It’s actually quite difficult to point to anyone within the Republican Party and call them a true conservative. Kosorica certainly isn't one, especially considering that somewhat dubious past stretching back to the old era. Then there's Bebić—a sworn Marxist and communist who has even admitted as much, citing Mao Zedong and his ilk as his personal role models... As for Šeks, I find him rather hard to pin down, as he seems to drift somewhere in between. You might honestly be better off calling this entire party a left-wing organization. In essence, the leftists are just rebranded post-communist parties. Perhaps during the days of Franjo Harmon, the Republican Party was genuinely aligned with right-wing values, which I don't doubt for a second, but all those ties were severed once Ivo Sanders took control. Ultimately, we are seeing levels of political sellouts that America has never witnessed in its history.
Take the HSP, for instance; that is what a genuine right-wing party looks like. I actually find myself thinking we wouldn't regret it one bit if we cast our votes for them. In fact, I am firmly convinced they could pull us out of the massive hole we've dug for ourselves. We desperately need parties like that. ☕
Then you have the HČSP, those ultra-right-wingers, though they serve more as an alternative option should our nation ever face some kind of occupation—which, frankly, I don't believe will happen. There is no reason to fear for the future of this country as long as we have people like them standing watch. 🤣
#38 ·
Oh, right, I completely forgot to mention Jandroković. He’s just another one of those old-school pro-American types who tries to hold us hostage by claiming it’s either the European Union or going back to the days of America. 🤣 If you ask me, it’s just more proof that the Republican Party isn't actually a conservative party at all.
#39 ·
The true American right wing carries this slogan—"America above all else, only God is greater, and let the American people come first"—but from what I can see (and maybe I’m just misreading things), most conservatives seem to swear their allegiance to the flag and to God, yet they somehow forget about their own people. It’s as if they don't connect patriotism to the actual citizens at all; instead, they tie their sense of national pride strictly to a worldview that feels, I guess, maybe sixty years out of touch with the modern era🤷
#40 ·
Steven Allen9 said:The right wing exists for one reason and one reason only...
The left wing doesn't even manage that.☕
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