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What would the USA look like with the Republican Party in charge?

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swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
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#61 ·
casualcanyon12 said:The Right-wing just can't get a foothold here in America unless they start using brutal repression against this mindless, nostalgic population. Honestly, the second Tufton passed away, that old-school collectivist mentality crawled right back out of the woodwork—it was always lurking under the surface, just suppressed by everything that happened in the 90s. It’s been blocking any real conservative movement for years now, all because of those endless "progressive coalition" crowds and the rest of the gutter politics that have occupied seats in Congress since the days of the old regime. The only real difference? Now it’s just an older breed of trash, and you aren't allowed to smoke in the Capitol anymore. But let's face it: the exact same elite group has been running this country for the last 50 years.

I have to share this because I honestly can't remember reading anything more spot-on or insightful on any forum lately.
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Ryan Clark3 Ryan Clark3 NewcomerOP
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#62 ·
swiftcyclist42 said:I have to share this because I honestly can't remember reading anything more spot-on or insightful on any forum lately.
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I mean, seriously, how can you claim any sense of Patriotism when you go around calling your own people stupid?😕 What does Homeland even mean to you,😕 unless it's just some highway where you floor it at 120 mph in your Mercedes-Benz? Maybe for you, the Homeland is just some gated community where you and your buddies huddle together to spit on everyone else—those people you label as lazy, unmotivated, old-school relics of a bygone era...😕 or perhaps it's just a rock you crawled out from under.🤷
Tyler Ramos23 Tyler Ramos23 Member
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joined Dec 2010
#63 ·
Ryan Clark3 said:I mean, seriously, how can you claim any sense of Patriotism when you go around calling your own people stupid?😕 What does Homeland even mean to you,😕 unless it's just some highway where you floor it at 120 mph in your Mercedes-Benz? Maybe for you, the Homeland is just some gated community where you and your buddies huddle together to spit on everyone else—those people you label as lazy, unmotivated, old-school relics of a bygone era...😕 or perhaps it's just a rock you crawled out from under.🤷

It’s got nothing to do with being patriotic or not. Calling your own countrymen "stupid" is just stating an opinion about them.

So what does "Homeland" actually mean to you?

Even though you weren't asking me, to me, the Homeland is just an institution that provides jobs and houses all the other institutions within it. Nothing more.

Isn't it just the highway where you blast down at 120 mph in your Mercedes-Benz?

That's only one part of it. The highways... sure. But also the houses, the buildings, the government agencies. And the most important part? When your paycheck or pension hits the account.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#64 ·
That's just how you see it, I guess. My take on the Homeland runs way deeper than that, but hey, I'm a declared nationalist through and through.
Tyler Ramos23 Tyler Ramos23 Member
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#65 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:That's just how you see it, I guess. My take on the Homeland runs way deeper than that, but hey, I'm a declared nationalist through and through.

I've read plenty of your posts. And yeah, you're right—your connection to the Homeland is definitely deeper. But that's life, we aren't all cut from the same cloth. There are basically two kinds of nationalists:
- the chauvinists
- and those driven by true Patriotism
In my book, you definitely fall into that second group.
amberwalker4 amberwalker4 Active Member
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#66 ·
Tyler Ramos23 said:I've read plenty of your posts. And yeah, you're right—your connection to the Homeland is definitely deeper. But that's life, we aren't all cut from the same cloth. There are basically two kinds of nationalists:
- the chauvinists
- and those driven by true Patriotism
In my book, you definitely fall into that second group.

Is it really that hard to use American words🤦?
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#67 ·
Tyler Ramos23 said:I've read plenty of your posts. And yeah, you're right—your connection to the Homeland is definitely deeper. But that's life, we aren't all cut from the same cloth. There are basically two kinds of nationalists:
- the chauvinists
- and those driven by true Patriotism
In my book, you definitely fall into that second group.

Thanks.
Appreciate the respect. 👍
Tyler Ramos23 Tyler Ramos23 Member
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joined Dec 2010
#68 ·
amberwalker4 said:Is it really that hard to use American words🤦?

It's all the same to me. I don't obsess over "pure American." Patriotism is Patriotism, whether you say it or not. To me, it's all the same since the dialects are basically identical anyway. Since we aren't talking about linguistics, I'm done with this "debate."🙂
Daniel Fowler8 Daniel Fowler8 Newcomer
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#69 ·
Ryan Clark3 said:I mean, seriously, how can you claim any sense of Patriotism when you go around calling your own people stupid?😕 What does Homeland even mean to you,😕 unless it's just some highway where you floor it at 120 mph in your Mercedes-Benz? Maybe for you, the Homeland is just some gated community where you and your buddies huddle together to spit on everyone else—those people you label as lazy, unmotivated, old-school relics of a bygone era...😕 or perhaps it's just a rock you crawled out from under.🤷

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bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#70 ·
It’s the same old story we’re seeing today. You’ve got this supposed conservative center-right establishment running the show, but honestly, they’re all playing for the same team; they just change their tone to suit the room. A few of them might act like they’re actually listening to us or say the things we want to hear, but at the end of the day, they’re all just taking orders from the bureaucrats in D.C.
slygardener4 slygardener4 Member
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#71 ·
bluerider63 said:It’s the same old story we’re seeing today. You’ve got this supposed conservative center-right establishment running the show, but honestly, they’re all playing for the same team; they just change their tone to suit the room. A few of them might act like they’re actually listening to us or say the things we want to hear, but at the end of the day, they’re all just taking orders from the bureaucrats in D.C.

That is precisely the fatal flaw within our right-wing politics—they possess a deep-seated inclination toward authoritarian control over their own citizens
while simultaneously acting as puppets for foreign interests. 🤮
Joseph Peterson6 Joseph Peterson6 Active Member
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#72 ·
slygardener4 said:That is precisely the fatal flaw within our right-wing politics—they possess a deep-seated inclination toward authoritarian control over their own citizens
while simultaneously acting as puppets for foreign interests. 🤮

And frankly, the Left isn't any better. It's the classic hallmark of insecure cowards.
Melissa Peterson19 Melissa Peterson19 Active Member
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joined Apr 2013
#73 ·
The Right-wing has been running the show in America for twenty years now. Even if you only count those three formal years under Račan's administration, the result is the same. This is why America looks the way it does today—because of the Right-wing. The OP is likely referring to the far-right, which is a thought better left unexamined. At this rate, the war would probably still be dragging on!
Joseph Peterson6 Joseph Peterson6 Active Member
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#74 ·
It’s pretty clear math isn't your forte. If you can't even manage basic addition up to 100, how is anyone supposed to take you seriously? 🤷
Jamie Jackson30 Jamie Jackson30 Member
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#75 ·
Joseph Peterson6 said:It’s pretty clear math isn't your forte. If you can't even manage basic addition up to 100, how is anyone supposed to take you seriously? 🤷

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That is the ultimate playbook for a liar—this kind of nonsensical logic is something I’ve even heard coming from certain leftist politicians...🤣

Frankly, it’s hardly surprising that Račan's formal administration left behind such a staggering mountain of debt, particularly regarding those highway construction projects that Čačić is so incredibly proud of...😂

If you factor in the blatant fire sale of state-owned companies for pennies on the dollar, along with Mason's charming little mockery captured in various transcripts, you get a much more complete picture of what that formal Government actually looked like...🙄

It is truly incredible how we find ourselves facing this all over again without even realizing it. Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope if Čačić actually gets his way, but I highly doubt it; there are far too many people out there who only ever think in formalities...🤣
Kevin Nelson3 Kevin Nelson3 Newcomer
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#76 ·
The US just can't have the Right-wing in charge—honestly, because their whole platform would basically mean breaking away from being a vassal to those massive global powers and wealthy European nations. And we just can't afford to let that happen, not now and definitely not ever, since we're so incredibly dependent on them.

Look, these days you just can't separate domestic policy from international affairs, which pretty much means there's zero chance for the Right-wing to actually gain traction.

In fact, it’s basically impossible for any political movement to survive if it starts rubbing the big players the wrong way.

The absolute best move we can make is to give our local communities way more autonomy—letting them try to carve out some wins for their own people, even if they have to go around the federal government to do it. On a national level? Nothing is going to change, and honestly, nothing *can* change—at least not until someone else decides to pull the strings for us.
cosmicotter13 cosmicotter13 Member
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#77 ·
bluerider63 said:It’s the same old story we’re seeing today. You’ve got this supposed conservative center-right establishment running the show, but honestly, they’re all playing for the same team; they just change their tone to suit the room. A few of them might act like they’re actually listening to us or say the things we want to hear, but at the end of the day, they’re all just taking orders from the bureaucrats in D.C.


Could someone please refresh my memory—and I mean actual, concrete moves or policy decisions, not just endless political babble—that we could actually label as "Right-wing," which were supposedly enacted by "our Right-wing" government, from the era of Dr. Ivo through to Jace? What we actually have is a left-liberal administration in coalition with the SDSS. It’s a tragedy, really... these characters hide behind the label of the "Right," yet they aren't even remotely close to it, and their actions serve only to disgrace the movement. Honestly, "the Right" is a clumsy term anyway. Personally, I’d prefer calling it the "American Option." Because, you see, it isn't in the interest of the American people to blindly support big capital, the EU, NATO, meddling in foreign wars, and all that nonsense.
A truly "Right-wing" party wouldn't be building monuments in Mexico, nor would it fund those fringe groups looking to stir up old trouble; they wouldn't abandon our economic sovereignty, gamble away our territory in some bizarre court ruling, degrade our own military, or bankroll those "cultural" associations that spit on the USA and the American language. A real Right-wing group wouldn't be ashamed to say "American men and women" instead of just "citizens," wouldn't block referendums for the people, wouldn't subsidize anti-American media, wouldn't import things we can produce ourselves, wouldn't embarrass us on the world stage, wouldn't force us into the EU, and wouldn't hand everything over to foreigners, and wouldn't...
Their pathetic attempt at acting "Right-wing" boils down to nothing more than bickering with the "Reds" (who, ironically, aren't even a labor party).
gentleeagle45 gentleeagle45 Member
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#78 ·
Ryan Clark3 said:I can't help but wonder—just purely out of curiosity, really—if life would be any more beautiful if we had the Republican Party leading the country. I mean, would we actually find ourselves heading to church on Sundays because we genuinely wanted to, or would it feel more like we were being forced to go by some kind of mandate? Would we find ourselves singing patriotic anthems at the stadium out of pure spirit, or would it just be another thing dictated to us from above? And, honestly, how would they even tackle an economic crisis—or any crisis, for that matter, whether it’s a matter of our morals or our wallets?🤷

None of that would happen. Everyone would be fighting their way to the border of the Drina before they ever saw peace in a church pew. In the meantime, the US would likely face international sanctions for failing to uphold the Dayton Agreement.
Kevin Nelson3 Kevin Nelson3 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2008
#79 ·
gentleeagle45 said:None of that would happen. Everyone would be fighting their way to the border of the Drina before they ever saw peace in a church pew. In the meantime, the US would likely face international sanctions for failing to uphold the Dayton Agreement.

Why is it always the Right-wing that gets slapped with the "nationalist" label or accused of having occupation vibes? I mean, seriously—where in the world do you actually find a political system where a group that extreme is actually running the show?
Jeremy Harris21 Jeremy Harris21 Member
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#80 ·
The whole left-versus-right dichotomy is essentially a convenient fiction, a manufactured divide designed specifically to make it easier to pull the strings of the masses.

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