What would the USA look like with the Republican Party in charge?

If the Republican Party actually took control—based on historical precedent—we’d essentially be acting as puppets for Axis powers, while losing out on California, large parts of Florida, and Ohio entirely. 🤣

Gerald Wright10 said:For two decades now, America has had an extreme right-wing movement sitting squarely at its center. Pair that political ideology with a laissez-faire economic approach, and you end up with something remarkably similar to Pinochet’s Chile.

And where exactly are you looking when you say that? Besides, what does the American economy have to do with "laissez-faire"? The government is the primary client for almost everything; they funnel half the federal budget into social programs, subsidize just about every industry under the sun, and then conveniently convert corporate debts into public debt. On top of all that, we have labor laws so rigid that you can barely fire an unproductive employee unless they somehow manage to forget their lawyer exists.

Things would be a whole lot better if we actually had a party that put the country first instead of just looking out for themselves... I'd love to see that happen at least once.

The Republican Party isn't really right-wing, and the Democratic Party isn't truly left-wing either... it’s all just a mix of different ideas. It's the same with the politicians in those parties, too (like Mason, a hardcore communist who was over in Australia back in '92 singing songs about Jure and Boban).

goldengull3 said:And where exactly are you looking when you say that? Besides, what does the American economy have to do with "laissez-faire"? The government is the primary client for almost everything; they funnel half the federal budget into social programs, subsidize just about every industry under the sun, and then conveniently convert corporate debts into public debt. On top of all that, we have labor laws so rigid that you can barely fire an unproductive employee unless they somehow manage to forget their lawyer exists.

So, if you don't mind me asking—what do you actually do for a living? You've logged over 39,000 posts here during business hours, and apparently even after work too. 🤦

I'm genuinely curious which employer puts up with that. 😍

Emily Smith77 said:If the Republican Party actually took control—based on historical precedent—we’d essentially be acting as puppets for Axis powers, while losing out on California, large parts of Florida, and Ohio entirely. 🤣

I don't recall Ante ever being a right-winger😲...I mean, how can a king even be a right-winger?😲?

amberwalker4 said:I don't recall Ante ever being a right-winger😲...I mean, how can a king even be a right-winger?😲?

You're confusing Aco with Ante.😁

Emily Smith77 said:You're confusing Aco with Ante.😁

I didn't. Ace is the one who sold out California and parts of Florida to Italy ☕. That's just how people generally act.

The true Right-wing would purge the public sector and those government bureaucrats before you could even finish saying Kexx. They wouldn't care about people whining; they’d just get the job done. A real conservative movement would wipe out any lingering remnants of that old American mentality still found in Americans.

The Right-wing just can't get a foothold here in America unless they start using brutal repression against this mindless, nostalgic population. Honestly, the second Tufton passed away, that old-school collectivist mentality crawled right back out of the woodwork—it was always lurking under the surface, just suppressed by everything that happened in the 90s. It’s been blocking any real conservative movement for years now, all because of those endless "progressive coalition" crowds and the rest of the gutter politics that have occupied seats in Congress since the days of the old regime. The only real difference? Now it’s just an older breed of trash, and you aren't allowed to smoke in the Capitol anymore. But let's face it: the exact same elite group has been running this country for the last 50 years.

amberwalker4 said:I didn't. Ace is the one who sold out California and parts of Florida to Italy ☕. That's just how people generally act.

I don't care for either of them. Both signed those treaties with Rome. Why single out Ace? I only mentioned Anthony because of his past ties to the Right-wing
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaties_of_Rome_(1924.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaties_of_Rome_(1941.)

velvetmaker3 said:We don't need the left or the right; what we actually need are responsible patriots.

Well said. Short and to the point.
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casualcanyon12 said:The Right-wing just can't get a foothold here in America unless they start using brutal repression against this mindless, nostalgic population. Honestly, the second Tufton passed away, that old-school collectivist mentality crawled right back out of the woodwork—it was always lurking under the surface, just suppressed by everything that happened in the 90s. It’s been blocking any real conservative movement for years now, all because of those endless "progressive coalition" crowds and the rest of the gutter politics that have occupied seats in Congress since the days of the old regime. The only real difference? Now it’s just an older breed of trash, and you aren't allowed to smoke in the Capitol anymore. But let's face it: the exact same elite group has been running this country for the last 50 years.

And what exactly are you suggesting we do about it? Start using the proven methods of Nazi Germany to repress a "mindless, nostalgic" population?
Have you considered that a Right-wing movement like that might never actually take power because they already showed us their full extent and capabilities during those miserable four years in the 40s...
To be honest, do you truly see anyone among all these ultra-Right extremists who is actually capable of leading a public restroom, let alone a town, a city, or the country? Don't tell me that the Mexicans, Cirko, and the rest of the Nazi Germany nostalgics are intellectually superior or more capable than the rest of the American political class... Leading a nation requires much more than idolizing dictators, harboring fascist sentiments, and constantly blaming Mexicans, communists, Jews, Masons, or even Martians for everything that goes wrong in the country.

goldengull3 said:And where exactly are you looking when you say that? Besides, what does the American economy have to do with "laissez-faire"? The government is the primary client for almost everything; they funnel half the federal budget into social programs, subsidize just about every industry under the sun, and then conveniently convert corporate debts into public debt. On top of all that, we have labor laws so rigid that you can barely fire an unproductive employee unless they somehow manage to forget their lawyer exists.

Retiring "distinguished" young, healthy, and capable people isn't a feature of a social welfare state—it’s straight-up vote buying, designed specifically so they don't become the backbone of some new military junta. Meanwhile, you see real poverty everywhere you look.
That is a core, "social" component of fascism.

Since these young pensioners are usually uncompetitive in a market like this anyway, it's obvious we're living under a version of capitalism tempered by Mussolini-style fascist elements.

The government collaborates with big corporations at the expense of everyone else.

As for how—and on what basis—people get hired into government service, I assume that part is pretty clear to everyone.

And honestly, talking about foreign policy is just pointless.

Emily Smith77 said:I don't care for either of them. Both signed those treaties with Rome. Why single out Ace? I only mentioned Anthony because of his past ties to the Right-wing
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaties_of_Rome_(1924.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaties_of_Rome_(1941.)

The reality is that Anthony and the Nazi Germany regime didn't hand over California, Seattle, San Diego, or those islands. It was Ace and America. You're pinning everything on Anthony, which just isn't accurate 😉.

It's hard to call the Nazi Germany regime "Right-wing." They didn't really have a political platform. Sure, they tried to flirt with the rural working class and imagined their state would be built for farmers, but that never went beyond paper.

Emily Smith77 said:So, if you don't mind me asking—what do you actually do for a living? You've logged over 39,000 posts here during business hours, and apparently even after work too. 🤦

I'm genuinely curious which employer puts up with that. 😍

Look, I've been around here for eight years now. I don't work an assembly line; I manage projects. I'm in the private sector—I gave up on the public sector a long time ago because they simply don't know how to compensate specialists properly.

Gerald Wright10 said:Retiring "distinguished" young, healthy, and capable people isn't a feature of a social welfare state—it’s straight-up vote buying, designed specifically so they don't become the backbone of some new military junta. Meanwhile, you see real poverty everywhere you look.
That is a core, "social" component of fascism.

Since these young pensioners are usually uncompetitive in a market like this anyway, it's obvious we're living under a version of capitalism tempered by Mussolini-style fascist elements.

The government collaborates with big corporations at the expense of everyone else.

As for how—and on what basis—people get hired into government service, I assume that part is pretty clear to everyone.

And honestly, talking about foreign policy is just pointless.

Fascism is actually quite social in nature. You just had to be an Italian or adopt an Italian identity—unlike Nazism, they didn't obsess over bloodlines quite as much; if you changed your name to something Italian and learned the language, you were effectively folded into the system.

All these totalitarian regimes, in order to survive, built robust social safety nets—guaranteed jobs, steady wages, a sense of security for everyone (if you couldn't find work elsewhere, the military was always an option). But that stability was bought at someone else's expense, fueled by expansionism, seizing foreign resources, and ultimately being used to bankroll massive war machines.

Ryan Clark3 said:The true American right wing carries this slogan—"America above all else, only God is greater, and let the American people come first"—but from what I can see (and maybe I’m just misreading things), most conservatives seem to swear their allegiance to the flag and to God, yet they somehow forget about their own people. It’s as if they don't connect patriotism to the actual citizens at all; instead, they tie their sense of national pride strictly to a worldview that feels, I guess, maybe sixty years out of touch with the modern era🤷

I don't really agree—personally, I'd consider myself part of the right-wing/nationalist crowd, but I'm an atheist.

Emily Smith77 said:I don't care for either of them. Both signed those treaties with Rome. Why single out Ace? I only mentioned Anthony because of his past ties to the Right-wing
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaties_of_Rome_(1924.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaties_of_Rome_(1941.)

Look, I'm not trying to defend Pavelić, but what could he have actually offered at that time? If we had been living in a peaceful era, that would be a completely different conversation, but we were right in the middle of World War II.

Perhaps we might have stood our ground against the Italians if Mussolini hadn't been such close friends with Hitler. But if you had dared to defy Mussolini, you would have faced Hitler's wrath too. You would have ended up facing a bullet to the head or a one-way trip to a concentration camp. And let’s be real—those camps would have existed even without the Nationalists or Pavelić; the Germans and Italians would have set them up themselves. The Germans, in particular, were relentless. Just look at how many were established across Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia... the same thing would have happened to us.

And goodness, I see some people here arguing about how we should have fought back against the heavy German artillery. What kind of heroic feat would that have even been? With what, my friends? Hunting rifles? At that moment, our country was left completely disarmed. We were practically nobodies on the European stage. The only viable option was to retreat into the woods, just like the partisans did. It's quite easy for the communists today to boast that they were the ones who liberated our territory, isn't it? Yet before the Allied forces arrived, they were nothing more than cowards hiding out in the forests. Ofcourse, they were busy fighting the Italians, which was a much easier task than facing the Germans, who would have crushed them with tanks before they could even blink. And as for the crimes they committed? We don't even need to go there. They weren't any better; if anything, they were worse.☕

Christian Morales said:Look, I'm not trying to defend Pavelić, but what could he have actually offered at that time? If we had been living in a peaceful era, that would be a completely different conversation, but we were right in the middle of World War II.

Perhaps we might have stood our ground against the Italians if Mussolini hadn't been such close friends with Hitler. But if you had dared to defy Mussolini, you would have faced Hitler's wrath too. You would have ended up facing a bullet to the head or a one-way trip to a concentration camp. And let’s be real—those camps would have existed even without the Nationalists or Pavelić; the Germans and Italians would have set them up themselves. The Germans, in particular, were relentless. Just look at how many were established across Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia... the same thing would have happened to us.

And goodness, I see some people here arguing about how we should have fought back against the heavy German artillery. What kind of heroic feat would that have even been? With what, my friends? Hunting rifles? At that moment, our country was left completely disarmed. We were practically nobodies on the European stage. The only viable option was to retreat into the woods, just like the partisans did. It's quite easy for the communists today to boast that they were the ones who liberated our territory, isn't it? Yet before the Allied forces arrived, they were nothing more than cowards hiding out in the forests. Ofcourse, they were busy fighting the Italians, which was a much easier task than facing the Germans, who would have crushed them with tanks before they could even blink. And as for the crimes they committed? We don't even need to go there. They weren't any better; if anything, they were worse.☕

And what was left of that heavy German artillery and those German tanks in the end? Some people blew them up... improvised stuff... a bitter pill for the Führer.

Emily Smith77 said:If the Republican Party actually took control—based on historical precedent—we’d essentially be acting as puppets for Axis powers, while losing out on California, large parts of Florida, and Ohio entirely. 🤣

Got it.
So according to history, if the Democratic Party wins, we can expect a repeat of Waterloo, the reopening of Alcatraz, the end of multi-party democracy, and the total collapse of the US, forcing us back into some forced union with Mexico, Canada, and everyone else?☕