All-day school schedules

But when exactly are they supposed to be drafting and grading the tests?
Is it somewhere between "No, Luke, that's not the accusative case" and "Come on, Rosie, try to remember what the simple past is"?

Sarah Hall53 said:everything everywhere all at once

And you can't forget about that one group of people who just doesn't want to be there—you know the type—they have zero motivation, they're bored out of their minds, and then they start acting out and messing things up for everyone else.
But of course, the teacher always ends up taking the fall for it, claiming it's because they "failed to engage" them in the first place.

Exactly, who else would it be?
They'll probably just push online classes so kids can learn how to master three basic steps to 😬

But honestly, what kind of twisted logic is it to expect kids to be stuck in school all day long? It's not like every kid actually wants to be there or has the mental capacity to focus for that long. Seriously, we're going to strip away whatever little independence and zest for life they actually have left.
When will they ever learn how to make pancakes, reheat some soup, or cook a simple risotto?
Or go down to the local grocery store, pay with cash, and figure out their own change?
When will they get to walk a dog? Pet a cat? Or just hang out playing video games...
What happens to that? Are they not allowed to have pets anymore because everyone is stuck at school or work from 8 to 5, leaving a poor dog home alone?
It feels like all anyone talks about now is "quality family time."
Even the veterinarians are overstepping their bounds at this point.

rowdypanther12 said:I mean, what kind of teacher is actually going to sit there with them for two hours trying to help them wrap their heads around chemistry, physics, German, math, and English? 😁

Well, they'd need a chemistry teacher, a German teacher, a physics teacher, a math teacher...
The real question is which classrooms they'll be using. Plus, if I understood the guidance session correctly, they need at least eight students in a group at the same time to get that extra support. 😬

They’re extending the school day, and honestly, they're going to make a ton of money doing it!

Kids with neurodivergent learning styles—you know, the dyslexics who need to record themselves reading, the auditory learners, the ones who crave silence, or those who can only focus on a book while blasting music in bed... and then there are the kids being bullied at school. Honestly? They can just go jump in a lake. Why bother? They should just learn to submit to incompetent parents and even more incompetent children who can’t even manage their own homework without help until they're fourteen...

Pure hell.

I can't help but picture those poor kids stuck in a room from sunrise to sunset alongside students with behavioral issues, bullies, and total hooligans. Our educational safeguards are non-existent, the system is completely stagnant, and there’s zero accountability. I know kids who haven't been able to eat breakfast in peace since first grade because they’re constantly dodging fights or having food thrown at them. Now, the entire school is expected to survive lunch in just 40 minutes under the watchful eye of teachers who have already been lecturing all morning.

Furthermore, we’ve been hearing endless noise about the mental health of today's youth for years now. Everyone acts like they care deeply—you see these various experts popping up on every news network spouting profound wisdom—but in practice, it’s absolutely nothing. This Department of Education, these governing bodies, society as a whole... they have completely failed these children. How are we supposed to tackle rising anxiety, depression, suicidal tendencies, and peer violence? Oh, by locking kids up in institutions. Eureka! I guess the government thinks they’re managing livestock instead of people, so they’re just herding us all into the pen.

Where is the list of names, credentials, and professional experience for this brain trust responsible for designing this mess?

Susan James said:Well, they'd need a chemistry teacher, a German teacher, a physics teacher, a math teacher...
The real question is which classrooms they'll be using. Plus, if I understood the guidance session correctly, they need at least eight students in a group at the same time to get that extra support. 😬

They’re extending the school day, and honestly, they're going to make a ton of money doing it!

It isn't just about the rooms; it's about the staff. If a school has sixteen classes but only two or three teachers per subject, they can't exactly clone themselves to make sure everyone gets that extra support during those two hours.

Jose Wells3 said:Kids with neurodivergent learning styles—you know, the dyslexics who need to record themselves reading, the auditory learners, the ones who crave silence, or those who can only focus on a book while blasting music in bed... and then there are the kids being bullied at school. Honestly? They can just go jump in a lake. Why bother? They should just learn to submit to incompetent parents and even more incompetent children who can’t even manage their own homework without help until they're fourteen...

Pure hell.

And it doesn't stop there... what about the kids who just want to listen to music and do nothing? Just stare at the ceiling, relax, discover new bands, read comics, hang out with friends... just being teenagers while the parents are out.

Man, imagine if someone watched over you your entire life. Like you're never truly alone. You wake up surrounded by people you didn't choose, and then in the afternoon, you have parents interrogating you about how you're getting along with people you didn't pick either.
(Honestly, I feel for the kids whose parents work from home. Even if they're tucked away in a room with headphones on and aren't really "seen," you still know they're there.)

And imagine having to be stuck in some local public school for nine hours straight with kids you don't even like, unable to go play in the neighborhood, head over to a cousin's house, or hit the local pool to mess around...
This is basically stealing childhood from these kids.

I honestly can't find a single positive thing about being held captive in a classroom all day long.

rowdypanther12 said:It isn't just about the rooms; it's about the staff. If a school has sixteen classes but only two or three teachers per subject, they can't exactly clone themselves to make sure everyone gets that extra support during those two hours.

Well, they'll increase the number of teachers, right?🤣
Goodness, why even ask that? There are chemistry teachers lining up out the door just for a chance to work in an elementary school so they can spend extra time helping motivated—albeit slightly exhausted—students.

Susan James said:Well, they'll increase the number of teachers, right?🤣
Goodness, why even ask that? There are chemistry teachers lining up out the door just for a chance to work in an elementary school so they can spend extra time helping motivated—albeit slightly exhausted—students.

God, I feel so silly, that makes total sense!!

Honestly, all this drama about pancakes and whining at IHOP is getting old. Like, 99% of them just head home and start venting on their phones, spending hours scrolling through whatever social media apps they have. They spend most of their time on those platforms, which is where basically all the bullying happens anyway. If they’re actually under supervision at school and don't have their phones out, then half the stuff people constantly complain about—you know, the endless screen time and the social media obsession—just doesn't even happen. Let's be real about this.

I mean, everyone manages to learn how to pay for things at the grocery store eventually, especially during those three and a half months of the year when they aren't even in class. 😁

When I look at the arguments being thrown around here, I really don't see anyone making a single meaningful point against this proposal. 😁

Bryan Wells11 said:I can't help but picture those poor kids stuck in a room from sunrise to sunset alongside students with behavioral issues, bullies, and total hooligans. Our educational safeguards are non-existent, the system is completely stagnant, and there’s zero accountability. I know kids who haven't been able to eat breakfast in peace since first grade because they’re constantly dodging fights or having food thrown at them. Now, the entire school is expected to survive lunch in just 40 minutes under the watchful eye of teachers who have already been lecturing all morning.

Furthermore, we’ve been hearing endless noise about the mental health of today's youth for years now. Everyone acts like they care deeply—you see these various experts popping up on every news network spouting profound wisdom—but in practice, it’s absolutely nothing. This Department of Education, these governing bodies, society as a whole... they have completely failed these children. How are we supposed to tackle rising anxiety, depression, suicidal tendencies, and peer violence? Oh, by locking kids up in institutions. Eureka! I guess the government thinks they’re managing livestock instead of people, so they’re just herding us all into the pen.

Where is the list of names, credentials, and professional experience for this brain trust responsible for designing this mess?

Exactly this.
trapped
with people they didn't choose
with people who don't care about them
with people who have no clue how to handle them
with people who feel just as forced into this as they do

Bryan Wells11 said:I can't help but picture those poor kids stuck in a room from sunrise to sunset alongside students with behavioral issues, bullies, and total hooligans. Our educational safeguards are non-existent, the system is completely stagnant, and there’s zero accountability. I know kids who haven't been able to eat breakfast in peace since first grade because they’re constantly dodging fights or having food thrown at them. Now, the entire school is expected to survive lunch in just 40 minutes under the watchful eye of teachers who have already been lecturing all morning.

Furthermore, we’ve been hearing endless noise about the mental health of today's youth for years now. Everyone acts like they care deeply—you see these various experts popping up on every news network spouting profound wisdom—but in practice, it’s absolutely nothing. This Department of Education, these governing bodies, society as a whole... they have completely failed these children. How are we supposed to tackle rising anxiety, depression, suicidal tendencies, and peer violence? Oh, by locking kids up in institutions. Eureka! I guess the government thinks they’re managing livestock instead of people, so they’re just herding us all into the pen.

Where is the list of names, credentials, and professional experience for this brain trust responsible for designing this mess?

This isn't just some niche policy issue.
The former Secretary used to brag about similar ideas, and a huge part of this nonsense—if not all of it—stems from that same mindset.
Honestly, I’d love to see the research that claims this is actually good for children
and see the signatures of the experts who supposedly backed it.

All across Europe, full-day schooling is pretty much the standard—there's actually plenty of research to back it up. Here in the States, we'll likely spend the next four years researching and tweaking things to fit our specific system.

It’s really just an option—something there if people actually want it. It isn't some mandatory thing forced on everyone from first through eighth grade.

I am actually laughing out loud here... and somehow, it’s still all the Democratic Party's fault.

Paul Davis2 said:All across Europe, full-day schooling is pretty much the standard—there's actually plenty of research to back it up. Here in the States, we'll likely spend the next four years researching and tweaking things to fit our specific system.

Haha, so we just took the full-day schedule from Europe but kept the exact same curriculum?🙏

We'll probably just buy some Walmart couches to get that Scandinavian vibe, while everything else stays exactly the same.

Sarah Hall53 said:It’s really just an option—something there if people actually want it. It isn't some mandatory thing forced on everyone from first through eighth grade.

Well, in plenty of other countries, it's mandatory up to, say, 15 hours—and from what I gather about this proposal, he'd be required for 15, not 17.

Susan James said:Haha, so we just took the full-day schedule from Europe but kept the exact same curriculum?🙏

We'll probably just buy some Walmart couches to get that Scandinavian vibe, while everything else stays exactly the same.

Well, obviously the school environment is going to change—that’s the whole point of upgrading the infrastructure.

Sarah Hall53 said:It’s really just an option—something there if people actually want it. It isn't some mandatory thing forced on everyone from first through eighth grade.

Exactly. It’s for those who actually need it. Not every kid requires it.
Kids just need to be kids.
The real issue is that most kids start struggling with standardized testing pressures as early as third grade. After that, forcing extra hours often backfires for both struggling and advanced students because the classroom environment just isn't set up to meet those individual needs. We see these patterns clearly in our American school systems.

But hey, if we're only looking at how many hours kids spend sitting in a desk, then I guess we have to make up for lost time. Honestly, it would make way more sense to keep them in school until July 15th and start the year on August 15th—having them stay until 1:00 PM daily—rather than dragging things out until 5:00 PM every day. That way, parents wouldn't be constantly scrambling to find childcare for two and a half months in the middle of summer, plus those other gaps throughout the year.
Especially if we're trying to keep pace with Europe.

Michelle Nelson4 said:Honestly, all this drama about pancakes and whining at IHOP is getting old. Like, 99% of them just head home and start venting on their phones, spending hours scrolling through whatever social media apps they have. They spend most of their time on those platforms, which is where basically all the bullying happens anyway. If they’re actually under supervision at school and don't have their phones out, then half the stuff people constantly complain about—you know, the endless screen time and the social media obsession—just doesn't even happen. Let's be real about this.

I mean, everyone manages to learn how to pay for things at the grocery store eventually, especially during those three and a half months of the year when they aren't even in class. 😁

When I look at the arguments being thrown around here, I really don't see anyone making a single meaningful point against this proposal. 😁

Probation and parole...

That sounds awfully familiar.

The school didn't buy those phones for them. So, whoever chooses to buy one should probably focus on raising their kid, empowering their kid, and educating their kid about the demons they’ve handed over for unrestricted use.

What kind of deflection is that? It's just not true.

It's not like they live in the Bronx where you need to protect them from drugs and crime. We live in one of the safest countries on earth; what on earth are we doing with this privilege?

Fine, maybe I'm being hard on myself, but let's look at it: we're actually shielding them from their own clueless parents who shoved a thousand-dollar tool into their hands—something that can absolutely ruin them—instead of teaching them how to handle such a weapon.

Just think about it for a second. What does that say about us as parents? Who are we actually being to these children?

Paul Davis2 said:Well, in plenty of other countries, it's mandatory up to, say, 15 hours—and from what I gather about this proposal, he'd be required for 15, not 17.

it's actually until 4pm