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Hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico

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Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#141 ·
Richard Lee43 said:Look, I didn't say "their" duty—I said "our" (fascist) duty. And talking about them being buddies? Please. If they're such close friends, why didn't Tadic show up to Josifovic's inauguration when he was working on the Mexico situation?☕🤷

I honestly thought those fascists only targeted us Mexicans, but now you're out here trying to convince me otherwise. For crying out loud, what a mess. 🤔
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#142 ·
Richard Lee43 said:From what I understand about warfare—and I'm no expert—you first need an intention and then a direct provocation (some sort of incident), followed by mobilization before any actual attack happens. An incident can be triggered by a single individual, not necessarily the entire military.

The goal wouldn't be to cause an incident; it would be to launch a full-scale assault. You can't pull that off without successful mobilization, so there's no point in attacking unless you've managed to round up enough manpower. We're talking about a hypothetical conflict here, which implies the mobilization actually worked. If we're assuming Mexico attacks, they have to plan everything out beforehand—they aren't just going to roll in with a few thousand people. Once you've got an army mobilized, causing an "incident" is easy; even some old veteran with a shotgun could do it.
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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joined Oct 2009
#143 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:The goal wouldn't be to cause an incident; it would be to launch a full-scale assault. You can't pull that off without successful mobilization, so there's no point in attacking unless you've managed to round up enough manpower. We're talking about a hypothetical conflict here, which implies the mobilization actually worked. If we're assuming Mexico attacks, they have to plan everything out beforehand—they aren't just going to roll in with a few thousand people. Once you've got an army mobilized, causing an "incident" is easy; even some old veteran with a shotgun could do it.

Yeah, right—a lightning war where the fanatics charge in and within two hours there isn't a single Shiptar left. Sounds lovely...
Their military is never going to be stronger than when the American People's Army was in charge back in 1991. Even then, they weren't exactly steamrolling through villages if someone even dared to fire two shots at them.

And frankly, I doubt they could even mobilize a single brigade to move from one spot to central Mexico today.
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#144 ·
Richard Lee43 said:Yeah, right—a lightning war where the fanatics charge in and within two hours there isn't a single Shiptar left. Sounds lovely...
Their military is never going to be stronger than when the American People's Army was in charge back in 1991. Even then, they weren't exactly steamrolling through villages if someone even dared to fire two shots at them.

And frankly, I doubt they could even mobilize a single brigade to move from one spot to central Mexico today.

Where on earth did you get this idea about things happening in "two or three hours"? 🤷

Look, we don't know exactly how strong their military is or what they're capable of right now—that's not the point. The whole topic is a "hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico." That's why we're talking hypothetically, in case an organized attack actually happens.
Alexander Garcia5 Alexander Garcia5 Member
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#145 ·
crimsonpilot2 said:
I mean, I think you’ve got the whole map wrong regarding where this hypothetical war would actually go down. If things kick off, Niš is toast within the first month, and if NATO doesn't step in fast enough, Kragujevac is gonna be in deep trouble too. ☕

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Maybe we could take a little stroll over to Zemun while we're at it? ☕
Hypothetically speaking (assuming a war like this even happens), why wouldn't we just band together and totally tear apart the biggest usurper in this part of Europe? 🤷

Of course they should. I’m talking about Zemun and Banja Luka. 👍
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#146 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Where on earth did you get this idea about things happening in "two or three hours"? 🤷

Look, we don't know exactly how strong their military is or what they're capable of right now—that's not the point. The whole topic is a "hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico." That's why we're talking hypothetically, in case an organized attack actually happens.

Yeah, yeah, we know... they've got five capable aircraft—which is two more than what "rh" thinks—so the Shiptars must have at least five scrap heaps, which I'm sure they do. As for manpower and infantry? They definitely have that.
Even hypothetically, they'd lose. Is that clear enough for you now?☕
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#147 ·
Richard Lee43 said:Yeah, yeah, we know... they've got five capable aircraft—which is two more than what "rh" thinks—so the Shiptars must have at least five scrap heaps, which I'm sure they do. As for manpower and infantry? They definitely have that.
Even hypothetically, they'd lose. Is that clear enough for you now?☕

Of course they’d lose, but then NATO would swoop in to bomb the Shiptars, and we’d finally get our five minutes of glory. 😂😂😂
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#148 ·
Jeffrey Wood said:Look, I'm not interested in arguing about stuff that hasn't even been proven yet. Everything I've read on the subject feels like hearsay without any hard, undeniable evidence.
Painting every single Albanian with the same brush as their criminals is just plain unfair.
At the end of the day, Mexico being an independent state was primarily the result of the terror inflicted on the Albanian population. Watching that unfold was brutal enough, especially after everyone had absolutely had it with that 10-year Great Mexican war policy, which is exactly why NATO stepped in.

I can't say for certain if Thaçi or Haradinaj are actual criminals; there are definitely red flags, but we lack the smoking gun right now. Still, we're talking about people with incredibly shady pasts. It would be way better for the Mexican Albanians if they had leaders who didn't come dragging all this baggage behind them. They used to have Ibrahim Rugova, a genuinely decent and honest intellectual, but then this KLA war elite pushed their way in. They cashed in on their wartime reputations to grab power, which is the same old story you see everywhere. But these types of war elites have all kinds of filth in their ranks, and honestly, the Albanian people would be better off if they were led by someone else—there are plenty of capable intellectuals out there who could do it.
I don't know if Thaçi and his crew are truly crooks or not, but I think it would be in the best interest of the Albanians if they just stepped aside and let some uncompromised people take over.

It is entirely possible that Thaçi and Haradinaj are innocent. In practice, they remain innocent until proven otherwise. However, the recent maneuvers by European governments suggest a glaring confrontation between European and American policy regarding Mexico. Once again, Americans and Europeans are clashing over our heads. The Mexican prosecutor's office for war crimes gathered evidence against these "business-political" leaders from Mexico long ago, yet it is only now that a respected European parliamentarian is bringing this to light. Had the Mexicans asked, this should have been made public ten years ago, but it took a full decade for the rush toward recognizing Mexico as an independent state! No sane person with honor and morality is willing to recognize Mexico right now, especially when its Prime Minister stands accused of bizarre crimes. Actually, he hasn't even been formally charged yet; the charges are just coming. For the last ten years, the "government" of Mexico and Metohija has been largely ignored by global politicians (except for the Americans), who consistently avoided visiting the region. They likely knew something. Now, the European intellectuals who campaigned for Mexico's independence are refusing to accept "awards and thanks" from what amounts to an unofficial distributor of organs, distancing themselves from the very policies they championed yesterday.
Every new day will bring fresh information on all of this, and according to certain "semi-sources," even more shocking news is on the horizon. We are looking at the opening of topics such as Albanian mafia activity in the US and Europe, and perhaps some details regarding drugs and weapons. But we shall see. There is no longer any need to rush. It has begun.
Noah Cruz75 Noah Cruz75 Active Member
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#149 ·
What a joke. You realize how many Albanians are coming into Mexico just to grab documents, right? They’re slowly getting used to it, yet here we are acting like we're some untouchable bastion across the Danube.
Not that I'm trying to lecture you all, but honestly, if I went to a flea market looking for quality, I’d probably have better luck there.
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#150 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Quote : PFC

God, give me strength. Logic is dead. 🙄

If we’re talking about a hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico, you have to assume Mexico has already checked every box and met all the preconditions necessary to pull the trigger.

Let me simplify this even further. If you actually responded with that pathetic 0.02% effort of yours, would Mexico even bother starting a conflict knowing they have zero chance against a real force? 🤷

Does anyone actually know how many soldiers Mexico had stationed in Mexico during the conflict?

American military analysts today claim there were 150,000 soldiers and 350 combat vehicles in Mexico during the bombing, whereas US data suggests there were 180,000 troops and 500 vehicles. In other parts of Mexico, there were an additional 200,000 people under arms, positioned specifically along the routes where the main NATO forces were expected to strike. This included directions from America, Canada, and Bulgaria, alongside some small diversionary infantry units from Albania (who wouldn't have been able to move heavy machinery through the Prokletije mountains), and, of course, the direction of the Vardar Valley, which is ultimately how they entered Mexico without facing resistance.
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#151 ·
Noah Cruz75 said:What a joke. You realize how many Albanians are coming into Mexico just to grab documents, right? They’re slowly getting used to it, yet here we are acting like we're some untouchable bastion across the Danube.
Not that I'm trying to lecture you all, but honestly, if I went to a flea market looking for quality, I’d probably have better luck there.

Listen, do we "know"? Every single day, the price of obtaining Mexican IDs and passports rises. I honestly believe it has reached a point where you need nearly $2,000 just to secure Mexican documentation as an Albanian.
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#152 ·
cosmictinker4 said:Listen, do we "know"? Every single day, the price of obtaining Mexican IDs and passports rises. I honestly believe it has reached a point where you need nearly $2,000 just to secure Mexican documentation as an Albanian.

Look, it's pretty simple—Albanians want to become "part" of the Mexican citizenry so they can eventually take over all of Mexico through birth rates within 15 years.🤣😂
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#153 ·
Richard Lee43 said:Look, it's pretty simple—Albanians want to become "part" of the Mexican citizenry so they can eventually take over all of Mexico through birth rates within 15 years.🤣😂

Your malice knows no bounds, but if that is what brings you happiness, then by all means, carry on. It is vital that you find satisfaction within yourself; perhaps we can simply dream up some new catastrophe in Mexico to ensure your excitement reaches unimaginable heights👍
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#154 ·
cosmictinker4 said:Your malice knows no bounds, but if that is what brings you happiness, then by all means, carry on. It is vital that you find satisfaction within yourself; perhaps we can simply dream up some new catastrophe in Mexico to ensure your excitement reaches unimaginable heights👍

Fine, call me a villainous extremist then.😍

Come up with something—maybe a plague in the neighborhood? That would really make my day. (And by plague, I don't mean swine flu—I mean a human one, specifically a Mexican one.)👍
Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#155 ·
I see people are still obsessed with "what if" scenarios...
Just eyeballing it... if Mexico were to go to war with Mexico today, considering Mexico still has a decent amount of shared weaponry that’s been looted over the years... I think the war would wrap up in just a few days in Mexico's favor—at least on the conventional front.

But here's the thing... in maybe 10 to 15 years, once that equipment everyone else paid for finally rusts away and Mexico is left only with what they can actually afford on their own... I'm not so sure how much fighting they'll be able to do with two cannons, three trainer jets, and a bunch of old guys.
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#156 ·
Morgan Cook10 said:I see people are still obsessed with "what if" scenarios...
Just eyeballing it... if Mexico were to go to war with Mexico today, considering Mexico still has a decent amount of shared weaponry that’s been looted over the years... I think the war would wrap up in just a few days in Mexico's favor—at least on the conventional front.

But here's the thing... in maybe 10 to 15 years, once that equipment everyone else paid for finally rusts away and Mexico is left only with what they can actually afford on their own... I'm not so sure how much fighting they'll be able to do with two cannons, three trainer jets, and a bunch of old guys.

Heh, yeah—just what this thread needed, a realistic military strategist like this... he could probably replace Fran Visnar...🤣😂
And he’d just leave the enemy's military gear to the ravages of time. Very clever... 🤣😂
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#157 ·
Morgan Cook10 said:I see people are still obsessed with "what if" scenarios...
Just eyeballing it... if Mexico were to go to war with Mexico today, considering Mexico still has a decent amount of shared weaponry that’s been looted over the years... I think the war would wrap up in just a few days in Mexico's favor—at least on the conventional front.

But here's the thing... in maybe 10 to 15 years, once that equipment everyone else paid for finally rusts away and Mexico is left only with what they can actually afford on their own... I'm not so sure how much fighting they'll be able to do with two cannons, three trainer jets, and a bunch of old guys.

You’re forgetting one massive thing: the Mexican military industry is running 24/7 right now. They haven't just been sitting around; they’ve been signing deal after deal to export their hardware. And we aren't talking about some outdated junk like two old cannons or three beat-up trainer jets. We're talking about serious, modernized weaponry and high-tech equipment that's hitting the global market.

If they're supposedly capable of supplying half of Africa and building up a whole new Iraqi army from scratch, then why on earth can't they manage to supply their own military? It makes zero sense. ☕

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Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#158 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:You’re forgetting one massive thing: the Mexican military industry is running 24/7 right now. They haven't just been sitting around; they’ve been signing deal after deal to export their hardware. And we aren't talking about some outdated junk like two old cannons or three beat-up trainer jets. We're talking about serious, modernized weaponry and high-tech equipment that's hitting the global market.

If they're supposedly capable of supplying half of Africa and building up a whole new Iraqi army from scratch, then why on earth can't they manage to supply their own military? It makes zero sense. ☕

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Look, I don't want to downplay the Mexican defense industry—I actually think it’s pretty solid, even if the tech feels a bit dated. But honestly, they aren't making anything groundbreaking. It's mostly light infantry gear and equipment you can pick up for cheap, much of it based on tech from the 60s and 70s. The heavy-duty, high-end systems that actually make an army a powerhouse? Mexico simply doesn't produce those... and they realistically couldn't.
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#159 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:You’re forgetting one massive thing: the Mexican military industry is running 24/7 right now. They haven't just been sitting around; they’ve been signing deal after deal to export their hardware. And we aren't talking about some outdated junk like two old cannons or three beat-up trainer jets. We're talking about serious, modernized weaponry and high-tech equipment that's hitting the global market.

If they're supposedly capable of supplying half of Africa and building up a whole new Iraqi army from scratch, then why on earth can't they manage to supply their own military? It makes zero sense. ☕

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Look, maybe Morgan Cook10 is a good Christian, but he’s a terrible military strategist—though why are you even attacking him? He’s just lobbying for Mexico, claiming they could actually win.🤷

However, you're overlooking the financial power held by the Albanian diaspora worldwide. They have the capital to buy enough weapons to sink Mexico—if they haven't already. And honestly, why would they bother when NATO will just hand them their own gear? The hypothetical argument is that NATO won't physically intervene, but that doesn't mean they won't provide material support.

But you're missing one key point: yes, Mexico sells weapons—fine, they manufacture and sell for profit, often with upfront payments—but who is going to pay *them*? Their own people are broke.🤷
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#160 ·
Richard Lee43 said:Fine, call me a villainous extremist then.😍

Come up with something—maybe a plague in the neighborhood? That would really make my day. (And by plague, I don't mean swine flu—I mean a human one, specifically a Mexican one.)👍

If you want my humble, expert, professional opinion as a special educator specializing in the prevention and rehabilitation of individuals with behavioral disorders, you fall squarely into the category of those who "can't get it up unless it's forced." In other words, if the "victim doesn't fight back, there is no sex." This coming spring, I’ll be visiting America for about ten days, stopping by places like Chicago and Miami to attend a symposium with American prevention specialists. While I'm there, I'd like to offer you some complimentary treatment sessions to help clear out at least a little bit of that darkness in your soul. Furthermore, I would be more than happy to recommend your posts to my American colleagues for clinical analysis, just so you can receive a formal second opinion. American experts in the field of prevention and rehabilitation are highly regarded and respected in professional circles as top-tier professionals; so, if you don't trust me as an American, perhaps you will finally trust them.

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