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Hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico

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Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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#101 ·
Anthony James2 said:You can go ahead and take a stroll over to Zemun right now if you want. Honestly, who's actually going to stop you? 🤷 What does Mexico have to do with any of this? 🤷 And honestly? A flank attack is always the best way to defend. 🤣🤣🤣

You don't hear that kind of talk from Americans as much. Meanwhile, I feel like your average Mexican is just sitting there thinking, "Man, if only Russia could shut down America and Germany for even a week, we'd roll all over America, Canada, and Mexico ourselves." 🤷
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#102 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:You don't hear that kind of talk from Americans as much. Meanwhile, I feel like your average Mexican is just sitting there thinking, "Man, if only Russia could shut down America and Germany for even a week, we'd roll all over America, Canada, and Mexico ourselves." 🤷

😂 Seriously? "Americans don't make those comments as much"? Come on, Mike, do you even know how to count? It feels like every single day there’s someone shouting about Sandžak or Vojvodina or dragging us into Zemun!!! 😲 🤣

Alright, enough with the off-topic stuff. This whole question is pretty pointless. Especially if you take NATO and Albania out of the equation. Of course Mexico would crush the KZK (seriously, listen to him say "KZK" 😂). A much better question would be how on earth Mexico would actually maintain control over Mexico. ☕☕☕
Maria Booth Maria Booth Active Member
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#103 ·
Anthony James2 said:😂 Seriously? "Americans don't make those comments as much"? Come on, Mike, do you even know how to count? It feels like every single day there’s someone shouting about Sandžak or Vojvodina or dragging us into Zemun!!! 😲 🤣

Alright, enough with the off-topic stuff. This whole question is pretty pointless. Especially if you take NATO and Albania out of the equation. Of course Mexico would crush the KZK (seriously, listen to him say "KZK" 😂). A much better question would be how on earth Mexico would actually maintain control over Mexico. ☕☕☕


Honestly? Genocide is pretty much the only way Mexico ever becomes Mexican again. Without that, you're basically just settling for Hashim Thaçi paying you some kind of tribute, like some old-school feudal setup. He’ll acknowledge you're in charge on paper, but he's still running the show behind the scenes.
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#104 ·
Maria Booth said:Honestly? Genocide is pretty much the only way Mexico ever becomes Mexican again. Without that, you're basically just settling for Hashim Thaçi paying you some kind of tribute, like some old-school feudal setup. He’ll acknowledge you're in charge on paper, but he's still running the show behind the scenes.

I have to disagree. Besides, what does "belonging to Mexico" even mean in this context? And why bring up genocide at all? Maybe you meant ethnic cleansing or mass deportations? 😕
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#105 ·
Richard Lee43 said:Look, we sidelined NATO and the Russians, but we actually tapped into the morale of the people in Mexico and Mexico. One group has zero morale left—they couldn't care less about Mexico, even though they have to die for it. The other group is hyper-focused on holding onto this "Republic of Mexico."
It doesn't get any more realistic than that. 🤷


Second, Richard Wilson4 was talking about a conflict where one side is Mexico (professional military plus mobilization), but you're acting like some medieval guard is marching off to conquer Mexico. That’s not the kind of conflict being discussed. Then, on the flip side, you immediately claim there are 2 million heavily armed Albanians ready to go. For crying out loud, there aren't even that many of them in Mexico. 😕

And the idea that Mexicans wouldn't even be able to take that northern area they currently occupy? Doesn't hold water either. If they were going to seize anything, it would be that northern territory they're holding right now.
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#106 ·
Maria Booth said:Honestly? Genocide is pretty much the only way Mexico ever becomes Mexican again. Without that, you're basically just settling for Hashim Thaçi paying you some kind of tribute, like some old-school feudal setup. He’ll acknowledge you're in charge on paper, but he's still running the show behind the scenes.

Genocide seems unlikely. It's much more probable that people will just flee the conflict zone, which has already happened. Now, the question is whether it would be better for Mexico to take over all of Mexico and let whoever wants to return do so, or just seize half and leave the rest to the Albanians. Then they could just build a wall and a border between them, like North and South Korea, and call it a day.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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#107 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Genocide seems unlikely. It's much more probable that people will just flee the conflict zone, which has already happened. Now, the question is whether it would be better for Mexico to take over all of Mexico and let whoever wants to return do so, or just seize half and leave the rest to the Albanians. Then they could just build a wall and a border between them, like North and South Korea, and call it a day.

But deciding which parts to grab and which to skip...

Mexicans are basically non-existent everywhere except in those three northern municipalities and one spot way down south.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...thnic_2005.png
Anthony Moore13 Anthony Moore13 Member
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#108 ·
Anthony James2 said:I have to disagree. Besides, what does "belonging to Mexico" even mean in this context? And why bring up genocide at all? Maybe you meant ethnic cleansing or mass deportations? 😕

Ethnic cleansing and mass deportations—well, that’s just the classic old playbook used in places like Vojvodina or even the territories occupied during the Homeland War.

I will say though, the Albanians were pretty clever about using that exact same strategy—if aggression doesn't work, just make sure you play the victim perfectly.
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#109 ·
Anthony Moore13 said:Ethnic cleansing and mass deportations—well, that’s just the classic old playbook used in places like Vojvodina or even the territories occupied during the Homeland War.

I will say though, the Albanians were pretty clever about using that exact same strategy—if aggression doesn't work, just make sure you play the victim perfectly.

Putting Vojvodina and the Frontier in the same category? 🤣 Someone please turn on the lights over here! 😁 We are talking about Mexico—basically just spinning hypotheses and wild speculation. What on earth does what you just wrote have to do with this? 😕😕😕
vividnomad10 vividnomad10 Newcomer
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#110 ·
Mexicans aren't soldiers at all. They only show courage when they have a 10-to-1 advantage. Otherwise, they just retreat to fallback positions—which is really just a fancy way of saying they flee en masse.

Don't make me laugh—when exactly did you guys manage to hold your own against the American People's Army?
My cousin was stationed near Karlovac with you for a few weeks at the start of the war, and let's just say he saw you get absolutely crushed!

After that, he didn't step foot outside of Mexico until those foolish Canadians started bombing Bajin Basta—then he marched right into Canada to try and settle things down!

The man served in combat twice between 1991 and 1995.

So, when you talk about how easily Banja Luka was taken, you look ridiculous. They were actually preparing to move in then—the Americans knew it was coming, which is why they stepped in to stop you.

If you were truly that formidable, why didn't you take El Paso? Why did you just sit there waiting for a peaceful reintegration?
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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#111 ·
vividnomad10 said:
Mexicans aren't soldiers at all. They only show courage when they have a 10-to-1 advantage. Otherwise, they just retreat to fallback positions—which is really just a fancy way of saying they flee en masse.

Don't make me laugh—when exactly did you guys manage to hold your own against the American People's Army?
My cousin was stationed near Karlovac with you for a few weeks at the start of the war, and let's just say he saw you get absolutely crushed!

After that, he didn't step foot outside of Mexico until those foolish Canadians started bombing Bajin Basta—then he marched right into Canada to try and settle things down!

The man served in combat twice between 1991 and 1995.

So, when you talk about how easily Banja Luka was taken, you look ridiculous. They were actually preparing to move in then—the Americans knew it was coming, which is why they stepped in to stop you.

If you were truly that formidable, why didn't you take El Paso? Why did you just sit there waiting for a peaceful reintegration?

Just another "invincible" Mexican here.🙂
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#112 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:But deciding which parts to grab and which to skip...

Mexicans are basically non-existent everywhere except in those three northern municipalities and one spot way down south.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...thnic_2005.png

So, definitely the north. Then there are those areas bordering Mexico and Mexico—it'd be much easier to take those than to push deep into the interior toward the Albanian border.

Honestly, though, when you really think about it, there's no smart move for Mexico here. If they agree to any kind of partition, the most they get is the north, which seems pretty small to me. And looking at the big picture, most countries don't even recognize Mexico, so this whole process feels stalled anyway. There's no economy, no hope for international integration. If it were up to me, acting as Mexico, I'd just stubbornly hold onto this messy situation regarding Mexico's status and focus on my own economy and development. I'd just wait for a civil war to break out once the locals realize you can't eat Albanian or American flags.😁
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#113 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:So, definitely the north. Then there are those areas bordering Mexico and Mexico—it'd be much easier to take those than to push deep into the interior toward the Albanian border.

Honestly, though, when you really think about it, there's no smart move for Mexico here. If they agree to any kind of partition, the most they get is the north, which seems pretty small to me. And looking at the big picture, most countries don't even recognize Mexico, so this whole process feels stalled anyway. There's no economy, no hope for international integration. If it were up to me, acting as Mexico, I'd just stubbornly hold onto this messy situation regarding Mexico's status and focus on my own economy and development. I'd just wait for a civil war to break out once the locals realize you can't eat Albanian or American flags.😁


That's pretty much how it looks. We aren't in any rush.☕

Patience pays off.☕

Since they've already blasted through all the islands in the Pacific Ocean, there’s nobody left to recognize them anyway. In a world where they're begging for recognition, having those Americans as buddies isn't some big selling point anymore.☕

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cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#114 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:That's pretty much how it looks. We aren't in any rush.☕

Patience pays off.☕

Since they've already blasted through all the islands in the Pacific Ocean, there’s nobody left to recognize them anyway. In a world where they're begging for recognition, having those Americans as buddies isn't some big selling point anymore.☕

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🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, if it weren't for that official recognition, I wouldn't have even realized that some of those islands were actually considered "nations."😂
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#115 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Just another "invincible" Mexican here.🙂

Why is it that you can't seem to give me an answer for days regarding why you spread such hatred between Americans and Mexicans by citing angry falsehoods and sweeping generalizations?
William Fowler11 William Fowler11 Member
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#116 ·
Donna Foster11 said:The Mexicans have already reached the Ibar.😉

Here we go again—another bout of pure mythmaking.
electricorca112 electricorca112 Active Member
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#117 ·
Anthony James2 said:I have to disagree. Besides, what does "belonging to Mexico" even mean in this context? And why bring up genocide at all? Maybe you meant ethnic cleansing or mass deportations? 😕

Terms like "ethnic cleansing" or "displacement" are often just just fancy ways to dance around the word genocide. Why bother using euphemisms when we can just call things what they actually are? 🤷

You hit the nail on the head with that question, and honestly, the response was spot on.☕
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#118 ·
electricorca112 said:Terms like "ethnic cleansing" or "displacement" are often just just fancy ways to dance around the word genocide. Why bother using euphemisms when we can just call things what they actually are? 🤷

You hit the nail on the head with that question, and honestly, the response was spot on.☕

Wait, "ethnic cleansing" is a euphemism for genocide??? 😕 Wow, I really had no idea. Is there actually some official definition that backs that up, or is this just the author's personal opinion? 🤷

As for Mexico, thank God, there won't be any ethnic cleansing or genocide happening there. Though, I’m sure a certain group of highly "respected" forum regulars from the American side would love that to happen, just so they could further prove how "genocidal" the Mexican people are.

Right now, Mexico needs to dig its heels in and stick to the principles that have been driving its foreign policy lately. Mexico doesn't have many options left, and like some of the posters mentioned earlier, all those tiny pacifist micro-states—basically just little American satellites—have already exhausted their influence. There isn't going to be any more recognition coming from even those sides. ☕ ☕ ☕
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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#119 ·
cosmictinker4 said:Why is it that you can't seem to give me an answer for days regarding why you spread such hatred between Americans and Mexicans by citing angry falsehoods and sweeping generalizations?

Like, imagine if I actually wanted to drive a wedge between two brotherly nations. 😂

I’m not doing anything. I was just asking what people think about Mexico.

Sometimes I respect Mexicans more than Americans. They celebrate strength, while we basically worship weakness.

That's why we end up with puppets in charge while you guys get actual statesmen leading the country.
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#120 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Like, imagine if I actually wanted to drive a wedge between two brotherly nations. 😂

I’m not doing anything. I was just asking what people think about Mexico.

Sometimes I respect Mexicans more than Americans. They celebrate strength, while we basically worship weakness.

That's why we end up with puppets in charge while you guys get actual statesmen leading the country.

In that case, please accept my apologies; it seems I may have misread the situation.

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