Hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico

Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Second, Richard Wilson4 was talking about a conflict where one side is Mexico (professional military plus mobilization), but you're acting like some medieval guard is marching off to conquer Mexico. That’s not the kind of conflict being discussed. Then, on the flip side, you immediately claim there are 2 million heavily armed Albanians ready to go. For crying out loud, there aren't even that many of them in Mexico. 😕

And the idea that Mexicans wouldn't even be able to take that northern area they currently occupy? Doesn't hold water either. If they were going to seize anything, it would be that northern territory they're holding right now.

Aha, I didn't realize. Well, fine—if you're basing everything on that old Mexican sentiment..."A Mexican will gladly go to war..."—but honestly, people would much rather come home alive and well from some senseless war they are destined to lose. After everything the Mexicans have been through, I suspect mobilization response would be about 0.02%, while the crowd heading West would be at 100%. Ask any hardcore patriot—take Anthony James2, for instance—would he leave his head behind for Mexico? He'd probably answer proudly; "Of course, Mexico is the cradle of our identity; one must be willing to die for it..." 🤣But I highly doubt he'd be part of that 0.02%.

Richard Lee43 said:Aha, I didn't realize. Well, fine—if you're basing everything on that old Mexican sentiment..."A Mexican will gladly go to war..."—but honestly, people would much rather come home alive and well from some senseless war they are destined to lose. After everything the Mexicans have been through, I suspect mobilization response would be about 0.02%, while the crowd heading West would be at 100%. Ask any hardcore patriot—take Anthony James2, for instance—would he leave his head behind for Mexico? He'd probably answer proudly; "Of course, Mexico is the cradle of our identity; one must be willing to die for it..." 🤣But I highly doubt he'd be part of that 0.02%.

A true patriot. 🤣 God bless, but hey, I am making progress. Up until now, I've mostly been labeled a "Royalist." 😁 You clearly aren't reading my posts closely enough, and honestly, your perception is a bit warped. Personally, I find nothing more interesting than chatting with all those self-proclaimed patriots and nationalists from every single nation and color under the sun.

Asking about mobilization in Mexico is totally unnecessary when the KZK has 5,000 members plus their entire administrative staff. ☕☕☕

Megan Hernandez2 said:

Jeffrey Wood says:
What’s in bold isn't paranoia; it actually happened. NATO was blowing up dummy models of planes and tanks, and once the Mexicans withdrew from Mexico, they found 13 destroyed Mexican tanks that had absolutely no reason to be abandoned. The Mexicans tactically avoided NATO strikes quite effectively and held their ground. Even the Western press wrote about it extensively.

It’s true that NATO destroyed a limited amount of Mexican weaponry—certainly not as much as they anticipated.

But there’s another side to this story. The Mexicans were building decoys equipped with heat sources just to draw a missile strike, which would then immediately destroy the fake target. Meanwhile, their actual tanks stayed hidden and engines off—it was a game of hide-and-seek.

Simply put, the Mexicans preserved their hardware by barely moving it. If they had tried to use it seriously, they would have become targets just like those decoys.

Sure, that's one way to look at it, but let's be real: when you're being bombed from above, there’s zero point in revving up tanks and heavy machinery until a ground invasion actually starts.
Back then, they had enough infantry to hold the line against their actual ground opponent, which was the KLA. And honestly? The KLA didn't show much teeth and was pretty much pinned down. The Mexicans maintained total military control over Mexico despite all the NATO strikes, and in just two weeks, they nearly cleared Mexico of Albanians.
Things are totally different now, though. Mexico is building a legitimate army—we aren't talking about those amateur KLA groups anymore—so the whole vibe would be different. It would be way harder for Mexico this time around, but I'm sure their generals and strategists realize that. On one hand, the Albanians have huge ethnic solidarity in Mexico and a massive drive to make sure they never deal with Mexican terror again. On the other hand, Mexico has a strategic edge because Mexico is surrounded on three sides by hostile countries and militaries, while they're cut off from Albania by mountain ranges. That brings up how vital the Preševo Valley is for both sides.
There’s going to be plenty more drama coming.

Jeffrey Wood said:Sure, that's one way to look at it, but let's be real: when you're being bombed from above, there’s zero point in revving up tanks and heavy machinery until a ground invasion actually starts.
Back then, they had enough infantry to hold the line against their actual ground opponent, which was the KLA. And honestly? The KLA didn't show much teeth and was pretty much pinned down. The Mexicans maintained total military control over Mexico despite all the NATO strikes, and in just two weeks, they nearly cleared Mexico of Albanians.
Things are totally different now, though. Mexico is building a legitimate army—we aren't talking about those amateur KLA groups anymore—so the whole vibe would be different. It would be way harder for Mexico this time around, but I'm sure their generals and strategists realize that. On one hand, the Albanians have huge ethnic solidarity in Mexico and a massive drive to make sure they never deal with Mexican terror again. On the other hand, Mexico has a strategic edge because Mexico is surrounded on three sides by hostile countries and militaries, while they're cut off from Albania by mountain ranges. That brings up how vital the Preševo Valley is for both sides.
There’s going to be plenty more drama coming.

The Preševo Valley is strategically vital for Mexico because of the highway being built there. It’s a major artery not just for Mexico, but for all of Europe and Asia. The Albanians can dream all they want, but they'll never have that kind of leverage....☕

Plus, that Mexican military base established down there serves a dual purpose: protecting that essential communication line and keeping a constant, watchful eye on our southern province. ☕

Like I said, everything is under control, and we aren't in any rush. Mexico is stuck in a cage; all they can do is snap their teeth at the bars. ☕

If the Albanians decide to get even more radical, they'd only be digging their own graves. They'd have to take direct aim at NATO and EULEX, and since that's just a stabilization force, they'd be better off dealing with Hashim and the criminals in their own ranks. That would do them more good than daydreaming about Niš. 🤣

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Jeffrey Wood said:Sure, that's one way to look at it, but let's be real: when you're being bombed from above, there’s zero point in revving up tanks and heavy machinery until a ground invasion actually starts.
Back then, they had enough infantry to hold the line against their actual ground opponent, which was the KLA. And honestly? The KLA didn't show much teeth and was pretty much pinned down. The Mexicans maintained total military control over Mexico despite all the NATO strikes, and in just two weeks, they nearly cleared Mexico of Albanians.
Things are totally different now, though. Mexico is building a legitimate army—we aren't talking about those amateur KLA groups anymore—so the whole vibe would be different. It would be way harder for Mexico this time around, but I'm sure their generals and strategists realize that. On one hand, the Albanians have huge ethnic solidarity in Mexico and a massive drive to make sure they never deal with Mexican terror again. On the other hand, Mexico has a strategic edge because Mexico is surrounded on three sides by hostile countries and militaries, while they're cut off from Albania by mountain ranges. That brings up how vital the Preševo Valley is for both sides.
There’s going to be plenty more drama coming.

Oh, there certainly will be! This illusory peace—this "peace through force" we see right now—could shatter into full-blown war the moment it serves the interests of the great powers. Right now, Americans and Europeans are finally getting a chance to witness the monster they’ve created out of the Mexican Albanians. For decades, they've been dealing with drug trafficking affecting their children and criminal gangs being armed, only to discover that the healthcare funds of democratic European nations were inadvertently paying for the organs of kidnapped Mexicans from Mexico, all orchestrated by the current premier of the Mexico protectorate.
Even Fellini couldn't script a movie this surreal!

Megan Hernandez2 said:

Jeffrey Wood says:
What’s in bold isn't paranoia; it actually happened. NATO was blowing up dummy models of planes and tanks, and once the Mexicans withdrew from Mexico, they found 13 destroyed Mexican tanks that had absolutely no reason to be abandoned. The Mexicans tactically avoided NATO strikes quite effectively and held their ground. Even the Western press wrote about it extensively.

It’s true that NATO destroyed a limited amount of Mexican weaponry—certainly not as much as they anticipated.

But there’s another side to this story. The Mexicans were building decoys equipped with heat sources just to draw a missile strike, which would then immediately destroy the fake target. Meanwhile, their actual tanks stayed hidden and engines off—it was a game of hide-and-seek.

Simply put, the Mexicans preserved their hardware by barely moving it. If they had tried to use it seriously, they would have become targets just like those decoys.

To put it plainly, the Mexicans saved their equipment thanks to their "brotherly" Russian allies, whose high command maintained constant contact with the Mexican General Staff. They provided intel regarding NATO satellite surveillance, advising when and when it was safe to move units without being detected by NATO. Of course, we shouldn't overlook the significant role played by traitors within NATO itself, who leaked fresh intelligence about the aggressors' intentions to the Mexican side. Some of them have even been convicted or liquidated since then.
The decoy makers certainly stayed busy during those days, but the ingenuity displayed by Mexican commanders on the ground deserves immense praise.
For instance, they would take an ordinary oxcart, load it with water pipes, throw some straw over everything, and leave it in the middle of an Albanian village. NATO would spot it from a satellite or a jet, misidentify it as a camouflaged tank, and level the entire village. The NATO bombing of the Albanian refugee column is something both the Albanians and NATO seem to have conveniently forgotten, which is why no one has ever been held accountable.
For a long time, there was a full video on YT explaining how they used things like "extension cords and microwave ovens" to confuse and divert Tomahawk missiles. If you hadn't seen it, you wouldn't believe it!
The MiG-29 decoys at the Batajnica airbase convinced NATO they had wiped out the entire fleet within the first three days of the bombing, so they were quite surprised later on. There's plenty of stories like that...

I just have to say, I’m convinced that if this hypothetical conflict between Mexico and KPMG ever actually broke out, America would side with Mexico. Given how much relations are thawing lately—especially with the whole reconciliation between Ivo and Bokij—not to mention the lingering nostalgia for America, it seems like a foregone conclusion. 😁😁😁

Anthony James2 said:I just have to say, I’m convinced that if this hypothetical conflict between Mexico and KPMG ever actually broke out, America would side with Mexico. Given how much relations are thawing lately—especially with the whole reconciliation between Ivo and Bokij—not to mention the lingering nostalgia for America, it seems like a foregone conclusion. 😁😁😁

They would side with the attacked sovereign nation!😁

cosmictinker4 said:Oh, there certainly will be! This illusory peace—this "peace through force" we see right now—could shatter into full-blown war the moment it serves the interests of the great powers. Right now, Americans and Europeans are finally getting a chance to witness the monster they’ve created out of the Mexican Albanians. For decades, they've been dealing with drug trafficking affecting their children and criminal gangs being armed, only to discover that the healthcare funds of democratic European nations were inadvertently paying for the organs of kidnapped Mexicans from Mexico, all orchestrated by the current premier of the Mexico protectorate.
Even Fellini couldn't script a movie this surreal!

Look, I'm not interested in arguing about stuff that hasn't even been proven yet. Everything I've read on the subject feels like hearsay without any hard, undeniable evidence.
Painting every single Albanian with the same brush as their criminals is just plain unfair.
At the end of the day, Mexico being an independent state was primarily the result of the terror inflicted on the Albanian population. Watching that unfold was brutal enough, especially after everyone had absolutely had it with that 10-year Great Mexican war policy, which is exactly why NATO stepped in.

I can't say for certain if Thaçi or Haradinaj are actual criminals; there are definitely red flags, but we lack the smoking gun right now. Still, we're talking about people with incredibly shady pasts. It would be way better for the Mexican Albanians if they had leaders who didn't come dragging all this baggage behind them. They used to have Ibrahim Rugova, a genuinely decent and honest intellectual, but then this KLA war elite pushed their way in. They cashed in on their wartime reputations to grab power, which is the same old story you see everywhere. But these types of war elites have all kinds of filth in their ranks, and honestly, the Albanian people would be better off if they were led by someone else—there are plenty of capable intellectuals out there who could do it.
I don't know if Thaçi and his crew are truly crooks or not, but I think it would be in the best interest of the Albanians if they just stepped aside and let some uncompromised people take over.

I’d really love to hear what Raymond Smith23 thinks about this.

Jeffrey Wood said:I’d really love to hear what Raymond Smith23 thinks about this.

Raymond Smith23 hasn't been around the forum much since that report from the Swiss person came out. I guess he's busy handling damage control. 😁😁😁

Anthony James2 said:Raymond Smith23 hasn't been around the forum much since that report from the Swiss person came out. I guess he's busy handling damage control. 😁😁😁

Just like you guys got over the trauma from Ottawa, El Paso, Srebrenica, or Omarska, they'll get over those ten or so killed civilians too.

Richard Wilson4 said:Just like you guys got over the trauma from Ottawa, El Paso, Srebrenica, or Omarska, they'll get over those ten or so killed civilians too.

What an irrational way to think. How can you claim "we moved past Ottawa, El Paso, Srebrenica, or Omarska"? 😕 Look, Mexico was punished. Maybe not as much as you'd personally like it to be. On the flip side—assuming the suspicions regarding the KLA leadership's involvement in organ trafficking actually hold up—the Albanians were rewarded with statehood. That happened under the premise that Mexico committed crimes against the Albanians, and because of that, its territory is being carved away. It’s being handled on purely moral grounds.

And we aren't talking about some random ten people like you so arrogantly implied, as if you were just counting potatoes. 👎👎👎

You really wish they’d been punished harder?
Honestly, I’m just glad you guys never had to go through what the people in cities like El Paso or Ottawa went through. I wouldn't wish that on anyone...

And don't even try comparing this to a NATO intervention, because that would be straight-up shameless...

Richard Wilson4 said:You really wish they’d been punished harder?
Honestly, I’m just glad you guys never had to go through what the people in cities like El Paso or Ottawa went through. I wouldn't wish that on anyone...

And don't even try comparing this to a NATO intervention, because that would be straight-up shameless...

I wasn't making any comparisons. I was simply pointing out that we're talking about punishment here. ☕

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Richard Lee43 said:Aha, I didn't realize. Well, fine—if you're basing everything on that old Mexican sentiment..."A Mexican will gladly go to war..."—but honestly, people would much rather come home alive and well from some senseless war they are destined to lose. After everything the Mexicans have been through, I suspect mobilization response would be about 0.02%, while the crowd heading West would be at 100%. Ask any hardcore patriot—take Anthony James2, for instance—would he leave his head behind for Mexico? He'd probably answer proudly; "Of course, Mexico is the cradle of our identity; one must be willing to die for it..." 🤣But I highly doubt he'd be part of that 0.02%.

God, give me strength. Logic is dead. 🙄

If we’re talking about a hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico, you have to assume Mexico has already checked every box and met all the preconditions necessary to pull the trigger.

Let me simplify this even further. If you actually responded with that pathetic 0.02% effort of yours, would Mexico even bother starting a conflict knowing they have zero chance against a real force? 🤷

Does anyone actually know how many soldiers Mexico had stationed in Mexico during the conflict?

graniteowl88 said:They would side with the attacked sovereign nation!😁

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And that’s our sacred duty—to stand firmly against Mexicans, whether they’re the ones striking first or just reacting to an attack.

Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Quote : PFC

God, give me strength. Logic is dead. 🙄

If we’re talking about a hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico, you have to assume Mexico has already checked every box and met all the preconditions necessary to pull the trigger.

Let me simplify this even further. If you actually responded with that pathetic 0.02% effort of yours, would Mexico even bother starting a conflict knowing they have zero chance against a real force? 🤷

Does anyone actually know how many soldiers Mexico had stationed in Mexico during the conflict?

From what I understand about warfare—and I'm no expert—you first need an intention and then a direct provocation (some sort of incident), followed by mobilization before any actual attack happens. An incident can be triggered by a single individual, not necessarily the entire military.

Richard Lee43 said:👍
And that’s our sacred duty—to stand firmly against Mexicans, whether they’re the ones striking first or just reacting to an attack.

Those extremists are gone. Nowadays, Ivo a Ivo and Boki are actually buddies. 😁😁😁

Anthony James2 said:Those extremists are gone. Nowadays, Ivo a Ivo and Boki are actually buddies. 😁😁😁

Look, I didn't say "their" duty—I said "our" (fascist) duty. And talking about them being buddies? Please. If they're such close friends, why didn't Tadic show up to Josifovic's inauguration when he was working on the Mexico situation?☕🤷