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Ladies only: Would you ever want to experience life from a man's perspective?

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Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#141 ·
Jamie Jackson3 said:Precisely. There is zero chance a man would vote this way. They are perfectly content; they've essentially hit the jackpot, and now they simply sit back in satisfied silence, smirking at those of us who aren't quite so lucky.😁

However, those are merely exceptions that prove the rule. If you watch any documentary regarding human rights violations, you will notice that women and children are almost always the central figures. This has nothing to do with whether you feel "fantastic" at any given moment. I have previously noted that I would happily be a woman if one could simply transfer the burdens of menstruation and childbirth onto men. I am not a masochist; those specific female inconveniences are far from "super," especially when I need to get to work or run errands but cannot even get out of bed due to pain.
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Those are just exceptions that prove the rule. Honestly, just look at any documentary about human rights violations... you’ll see women and children are always the ones front and center. It’s not really about whether you're feeling great right now or not. I think I already mentioned that every woman would be perfectly happy if we could just offload things like maternity leave onto men. I'm not a masochist, so I don't find those little "perks" of being a woman particularly amazing—especially when I need to get to work or run to Target but I can't even get out of bed because of the pain.

So, what's the actual problem here? I get hurt too, so I just take some Advil and deal with it. Even when the pain is killing me and the meds aren't kicking in—which, let’s be real, they NEVER do right away—I never once sat there thinking, "Must be nice to be a guy." Honestly, lucky guys. Like I always say, being "normal" isn't the same as being a "real one," and everything has two sides to it. I guess only weaklings and complainers can't handle their own struggles, so they spend all their time assuming everyone else has it easier. Just focus on your own life, Jamie Jackson3. If you do that, you won't be so busy noticing everyone else's supposed "advantages." You change the world by changing yourself first. Every revolution starts from within. I probably cursed my gender at least twenty times because I'm not a man, but I don't have that kind of mindset. It's just how I am. And I bet plenty of guys have those moments where they think, "Man, why wasn't I born a woman so I could just get out of this?" But then the next day they're back to being happy they're men, and that's that. Guys are just simpler than us in certain ways, so they don't overthink things like we do for no reason. Happy now?
Jamie Jackson3 Jamie Jackson3 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#142 ·
Thomas Davis6 said:Those are just exceptions that prove the rule. Honestly, just look at any documentary about human rights violations... you’ll see women and children are always the ones front and center. It’s not really about whether you're feeling great right now or not. I think I already mentioned that every woman would be perfectly happy if we could just offload things like maternity leave onto men. I'm not a masochist, so I don't find those little "perks" of being a woman particularly amazing—especially when I need to get to work or run to Target but I can't even get out of bed because of the pain.

So, what's the actual problem here? I get hurt too, so I just take some Advil and deal with it. Even when the pain is killing me and the meds aren't kicking in—which, let’s be real, they NEVER do right away—I never once sat there thinking, "Must be nice to be a guy." Honestly, lucky guys. Like I always say, being "normal" isn't the same as being a "real one," and everything has two sides to it. I guess only weaklings and complainers can't handle their own struggles, so they spend all their time assuming everyone else has it easier. Just focus on your own life, Jamie Jackson3. If you do that, you won't be so busy noticing everyone else's supposed "advantages." You change the world by changing yourself first. Every revolution starts from within. I probably cursed my gender at least twenty times because I'm not a man, but I don't have that kind of mindset. It's just how I am. And I bet plenty of guys have those moments where they think, "Man, why wasn't I born a woman so I could just get out of this?" But then the next day they're back to being happy they're men, and that's that. Guys are just simpler than us in certain ways, so they don't overthink things like we do for no reason. Happy now?

You’ve laid out quite a lot of points, but I think you might have overlooked the core distinction here. There is a massive difference between a woman choosing to wear a niqab and the systematic weaponization of that garment to oppress women. It is two entirely different matters. Sure, you can find examples of happy Muslim women, but we cannot ignore the reality of certain conservative regions where women are treated worse than animals. That is an undeniable fact. Women in the West deal with their own set of unique struggles, but they possess something far more fundamental: the freedom of choice. They have the autonomy to decide not to dress provocatively or behave in ways that invite unwanted attention. In America, no one is forcing a woman to dress a certain way against her will. Furthermore, if we are discussing the concept of being a "sexual object," why do we grant men such total freedom in how they present themselves? If we apply this logic consistently, shouldn't the men in the West who undergo cosmetic surgeries and extreme grooming also be viewed as victims of sexual objectification? It seems we are applying a double standard to the conversation.

The second point you brought up—which is quite fascinating, given how you’re drawing parallels regarding how Muslim women are treated compared to Western women—is that one of a woman's "advantages" is being able to distract a police officer with her chest. Truly wonderful. You actually consider that an advantage of being female. Personally, I’d love to experience that once a year when I get pulled over; I’d just show him my cleavage and hand him my number to negotiate a waiver on my speeding ticket to compensate for the monthly agony and bleeding I endure. If men had to deal with menstrual cycles and childbirth, then everything you're saying might actually hold some water. And what exactly does it mean that "you don't have to give birth"? Well, men don't necessarily have to produce biological offspring either. Women are at a distinct disadvantage because we have to suffer through periods, pregnancy, and labor just to have a biological child, whereas men don't have to deal with any of that besides the "fun part." Men are simpler because their lives are simpler and their biology is more straightforward. They don't feel the need to spiral, as you put it, because they simply don't have the same biological drivers. Nature is essentially on their side. Women, on the other hand, possess much more complex endocrine systems. Of course our hormones cause us to crash; we're more complicated because we have to survive those physiological storms every single month. If I had testicles and my spermatogenesis was functioning at its peak, perhaps I wouldn't be dealing with these mood swings.
Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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#143 ·
......thanks, but honestly, one or two rounds is plenty for me😁..even the worst cramps can't touch a toothache, and that’s a pain that hits everyone regardless of gender..and about the cop thing, you don't have to flash him anything, because being hot and having SARM aren't the same thing, honey..I wasn't even using that term in my previous post. That was just one way of playing the vaginal card like I mentioned earlier, and that's really all there is to it..sex itself is basically your ace in the hole in a situation like that..anyway, regarding Muslim women and burkas, even if you gave most of them total freedom to dress however they wanted, they'd probably still pick the burka..just like how us Western women would stick to jeans, tees, mini skirts, or whatever...without the veil, obviously..unless we want people mistaking us for ninjas..😁
Jamie Jackson3 Jamie Jackson3 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#144 ·
Thomas Davis6 said:......thanks, but honestly, one or two rounds is plenty for me😁..even the worst cramps can't touch a toothache, and that’s a pain that hits everyone regardless of gender..and about the cop thing, you don't have to flash him anything, because being hot and having SARM aren't the same thing, honey..I wasn't even using that term in my previous post. That was just one way of playing the vaginal card like I mentioned earlier, and that's really all there is to it..sex itself is basically your ace in the hole in a situation like that..anyway, regarding Muslim women and burkas, even if you gave most of them total freedom to dress however they wanted, they'd probably still pick the burka..just like how us Western women would stick to jeans, tees, mini skirts, or whatever...without the veil, obviously..unless we want people mistaking us for ninjas..😁

I used the imagery of breasts because that’s what gets to the core of things. While you think you're being charming, they're actually just staring at your chest and pretending to listen.😁
As for vaginal manipulation, I’d gladly trade that for period-free living any day. There are plenty of ways to manipulate someone besides using the vagina. Besides, who says men don't manipulate women? They do it through marriage, money... all those things an average woman seeks out once she reaches a certain age. At that point, she stops being the manipulator and becomes the victim of the manipulation.
Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#145 ·
I don't want his money. I feel more than capable of making my own, and honestly, love is what matters most to me in a relationship—not how thick his wallet is. I’d hate myself if I felt like his cash was basically "buying" me. Plus, when a woman has a solid career, she doesn't need some guy using money to manipulate her. An independent woman just isn't going to let herself be financially tied to a partner.
And look, there are just as many guys out there hunting for wealthy partners as there are women doing the same. I guess society is just headed down the drain. It’s a global issue at this point—it's about greed and self-interest, not gender.
I'm not saying I don't like money, but I'm not looking to use it to buy some flashy status symbol. To me, it's just about having a sense of security. But I want that security through my own hard work, not by tapping into my partner's bank account. That's what true independence and finding yourself is all about.
Jamie Jackson3 Jamie Jackson3 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#146 ·
Thomas Davis6 said:I don't want his money. I feel more than capable of making my own, and honestly, love is what matters most to me in a relationship—not how thick his wallet is. I’d hate myself if I felt like his cash was basically "buying" me. Plus, when a woman has a solid career, she doesn't need some guy using money to manipulate her. An independent woman just isn't going to let herself be financially tied to a partner.
And look, there are just as many guys out there hunting for wealthy partners as there are women doing the same. I guess society is just headed down the drain. It’s a global issue at this point—it's about greed and self-interest, not gender.
I'm not saying I don't like money, but I'm not looking to use it to buy some flashy status symbol. To me, it's just about having a sense of security. But I want that security through my own hard work, not by tapping into my partner's bank account. That's what true independence and finding yourself is all about.

That’s fine. If you aren't willing to be manipulated by money, then you might just end up single instead of getting married.
Ethan Thomas13 Ethan Thomas13 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2010
#147 ·
@Jamie Jackson3
Look, saying "respect yourself and others will respect you, and stop whining about every little thing" isn't some trendy New Age nonsense; it's just basic common sense that’s been true forever.
If you're seriously that bothered by having a uterus, then go get surgery and have them remove it so you don't have to deal with it anymore.🤷
Jamie Jackson3 Jamie Jackson3 Member
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#148 ·
Ethan Thomas13 said:@Jamie Jackson3
Look, saying "respect yourself and others will respect you, and stop whining about every little thing" isn't some trendy New Age nonsense; it's just basic common sense that’s been true forever.
If you're seriously that bothered by having a uterus, then go get surgery and have them remove it so you don't have to deal with it anymore.🤷

Such an action would do absolutely nothing to rectify the biological injustices faced by women. Nor would it allow any individual woman the opportunity to bear biological children. Science simply hasn't reached that level of advancement yet.☕ Furthermore, suggesting that "respecting oneself and not complaining about every triviality" is relevant here is completely off-base.🤷
Additionally, labeling fundamental issues as "every little thing" implies a significant lack of basic understanding regarding the subject matter. Beyond that, does "every little thing" truly encompass everything being discussed here? It seems a stretch.
I wouldn't say that. We are discussing specific matters that certainly do not fall into the category of mere trivialities.😛
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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joined Feb 2012
#149 ·
I have to admit, seeing such a high percentage of women in this survey stating they’d want to transition to male permanently was a bit of a shock to me. It feels quite surreal, and if I’m being honest, I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around why that would be the case.
Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#150 ·
James Nguyen13 said:I have to admit, seeing such a high percentage of women in this survey stating they’d want to transition to male permanently was a bit of a shock to me. It feels quite surreal, and if I’m being honest, I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around why that would be the case.

It’s sad, it’s depressing, and it’s just worrying when you start viewing your own gender as some kind of limitation😢.. Yeah, I totally agree with you on that one.. I mean, it's wild how people act outraged about women's rights being threatened in other countries, yet we end up with a society this messed up because of it.
Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#151 ·
Elizabeth Newman2 said:😂

On average, men are...

* physically: taller, faster, heavier, more athletic, stronger
* mentally: more intelligent, more creative

That’s just the average, though. There is one thing that isn't average, which applies to every single woman and absolutely no man: childbirth pain—and, I guess, a generally higher susceptibility to illnesses, especially STDs (which are the worst).

You can take these sexist, brainless theories and just toss them in the trash😁..😠just saw your post..honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't have a girlfriend, wife, or fiancé, assuming you even have the guts to say this stuff to someone's face..this is just a massive load of nonsense..
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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joined Aug 2010
#152 ·
Thomas Davis6 said:You can take these sexist, brainless theories and just toss them in the trash😁..😠just saw your post..honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't have a girlfriend, wife, or fiancé, assuming you even have the guts to say this stuff to someone's face..this is just a massive load of nonsense..

He mentioned he’s only 14—at least, that's what he wrote on another thread. I guess he's still in that stage where his opinions are definitely going to evolve as he grows up.
Let’s try to steer things back to the main topic—which option do you all prefer and why? Also, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the poll results.
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
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joined Apr 2010
#153 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:He mentioned he’s only 14—at least, that's what he wrote on another thread. I guess he's still in that stage where his opinions are definitely going to evolve as he grows up.
Let’s try to steer things back to the main topic—which option do you all prefer and why? Also, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the poll results.

Well, come on, just tell us. Would you want to be a man for a little while? 😬 You haven't shared your own take yet... you're just moderating, and we'd love to hear your actual opinion. And how do you feel about that 15% who said they'd want to switch permanently? 😲 Honestly, I find it hard to believe that number is actually 15%. This modern world is something else... (or maybe the guys are just padding the numbers to make themselves look good? LOL)
Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#154 ·
I don't know, the whole thing feels a bit sketchy to me. I bet a ton of guys voted in secret just to keep things exactly how they are right now😁..I actually voted for option one on the first day, though. Honestly? Just out of pure curiosity
Angela Bennett23 Angela Bennett23 Newcomer
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#155 ·
Thomas Davis6 said:I don't know, the whole thing feels a bit sketchy to me. I bet a ton of guys voted in secret just to keep things exactly how they are right now😁..I actually voted for option one on the first day, though. Honestly? Just out of pure curiosity

It has to be. Is there really any other way to look at it?
If we're talking about that 18%, I'm personally responsible for at least 16 of them.
Ethan Thomas13 Ethan Thomas13 Newcomer
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#156 ·
Jamie Jackson3 said:Such an action would do absolutely nothing to rectify the biological injustices faced by women. Nor would it allow any individual woman the opportunity to bear biological children. Science simply hasn't reached that level of advancement yet.☕ Furthermore, suggesting that "respecting oneself and not complaining about every triviality" is relevant here is completely off-base.🤷
Additionally, labeling fundamental issues as "every little thing" implies a significant lack of basic understanding regarding the subject matter. Beyond that, does "every little thing" truly encompass everything being discussed here? It seems a stretch.
I wouldn't say that. We are discussing specific matters that certainly do not fall into the category of mere trivialities.😛

If that attitude has nothing to do with the topic, then why did you bring up wanting more respect and saying people would respect you more if you weren't female? You're right—that isn't "stupid," it's a massive issue. So I'll say it again: "Respect yourself, and others will follow suit."
Ethan Thomas13 Ethan Thomas13 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2010
#157 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Look, I didn't actually call them sluts, but people just keep insisting on it, unfortunately...

Madonna is Madonna. Even if Taylor Swift from that local High School for Business and Finance was sleeping with ten different guys, she’d get that same label—and it wouldn't even be coming from the guys, it would be from other girls...

If these women actually have any brains, they won't give a damn about what some girl like Ana Anić from Bjelovar General Gymnasium says about them. Madonna wouldn't be an icon if she cared about that kind of noise.
gentletiger73 gentletiger73 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2010
#158 ·
It’s been three months now. I can't help but wonder if she might actually be up for grabbing a beer and catching a football game together 😁
Jacob Kim27 Jacob Kim27 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2010
#159 ·
When? Right now, no. I’m happy where I am and I don't want it. Maybe one day, if I ever find myself in pieces and actually craving it, it would be for just a week—and only if I could walk away without any memory of their thoughts, hunches, or ideas.
I’d want to step into the shoes of one specific man. But just being some random guy I've never met? No way.
If I got to choose exactly who I wanted to be for a week, I’m in immediately.
Honestly, I have no idea why I should even bother voting in this poll.
Jamie Jackson3 Jamie Jackson3 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#160 ·
Ethan Thomas13 said:If that attitude has nothing to do with the topic, then why did you bring up wanting more respect and saying people would respect you more if you weren't female? You're right—that isn't "stupid," it's a massive issue. So I'll say it again: "Respect yourself, and others will follow suit."

🙂 And I am telling you once more, it is off-topic. The focus was on quantity and pregnancy, not on social standing or respect. Everything else is merely a figment of your imagination. I have clearly stated multiple times that everything would be perfect if those two factors were removed from the equation. Perhaps try reading carefully before launching an attack.😉
My original opening post, which touches upon various points within a broader social context, includes certain generalizations where women are often the victims—such as stereotypes about driving skills or being less productive at work, or receiving less deference when serving as executives (which doesn't mean they aren't respected eventually, just that they have to prove themselves harder due to a disadvantaged starting position). However, I presented all of this satirically as a reason why being a man might be easier in our society; it was never intended as a definitive list of insurmountable struggles inherent to being a woman. I assumed my readers possessed enough intelligence to discern what I meant by "I want more respect." For me, dear, that means wanting an equal playing field and fewer prejudices. You, in a typically feminine fashion, have over-dramatized the whole thing—likely compounded by some hormonal fluctuations😁—and now you're having these outbursts. If you had the patience to actually read my posts, you wouldn't be talking such nonsense. Or perhaps you have personal issues that cause you to take my writing so personally and obsessively bring up the topic of respect. I suggest you resolve your respect issues privately, as it is quite evident you have a struggle there. I write realistically, highlighting the challenges most women lack the courage to confront and instead suppress (much like yourself).
Try looking at the situation with a bit of objectivity rather than interpreting my words so literally and shallowly. Once again, I maintain that your stance on respect is irrelevant here, as this debate centered on biological differences rather than sociological ones.
And that little mantra of yours, "respect yourself...", is lovely bedtime material.
You failed to impress me with that mantra and cheap psychology, but you did succeed in opening my eyes to one specific disadvantage of being a man: you can marry a woman like you, who creates drama out of nothing simply because she is too lazy to read and reflect.
PS: Everything I previously wrote regarding "every little thing" still stands. Look at the thread title and search for "EVERY little thing," and you will see that I am not complaining about every minor grievance—and these certainly aren't minor grievances. At least in my view, these matters are significant... and most women accepted my list without issue, except for a few prudes who dismissed them as nonsense (though I have no idea what they consider significant)...

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