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northerneagle3 northerneagle3 Member
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#101 ·
slymaker9 said:It is truly unfortunate when such things occur due to a series of unfortunate circumstances; it is a tragedy.😢😲
Even in those specific instances, there usually comes a moment where an exit strategy presents itself, giving them the opportunity to decide exactly how they want to proceed.
It usually comes down to a matter of career choice. People often opt for the path of least resistance—chasing quick money or taking the easiest route available. It’s a decision I simply don't understand.
I feel like they rationalize their professions in a way that is fundamentally at odds with my own personality. I don't particularly empathize with them, if I'm being honest. Perhaps I just feel a sense of pity for them, much like I do for Vlatko Pokos and Simon Gotovac.
I am certain that prostitution will always exist in society.

Interesting thought. How can you be so sure that if you were a man, you wouldn't find yourself gravitating toward men instead of women?🤷

Smart move. Very smart.
This would be perfect in bold.

It is not a separate topic.🙂

The issue isn't that we fail to understand your point; rather, this forum is a place for discussion, where members enrich one another and refine their perspectives if someone presents a compelling argument. To debate a viewpoint, one must first state it and, ideally, explain it.
If you have the inclination and the time, I would like you to explain how this "ideal" woman expresses those same qualities that a man also possesses, just differently..

To me, all women are valid. Some deserve my respect and others do not, but every woman is genuine and expresses her femininity in her own unique way.

This might seem slightly contradictory to what I wrote above, Sean Cruz, but does every woman truly have a full range of choice? Or is it partially determined by genetics, upbringing, social environment, and circumstance?

We are not identical; we are all different. Regardless of what the Declaration of Independence or any other document states, we were created with diversity, and no piece of paper or person can undo that.

Alright, I'm back. 🙂

First off, I think we’re just talking past each other because we’re using different definitions here. When I say I respect or don't respect someone, I’m talking about whether I consider them "real"—you know that feeling when you see a woman and just think, "Yeah, she’s the real deal, hats off to her." That’s what I mean by "real" women. But if we’re strictly looking at the biology of it, then obviously every woman is real, and I totally agree that while we all have our similarities, we’re all incredibly different individuals. 🙂

So, here’s the thing... how exactly is a woman supposed to express traits that any man could carry too? It’s such a ridiculous question when you really sit down and think about it. Look, I’m about to go off on a massive generalization here, so consider this your fair warning... 🙂
Look, let’s just talk about the love for a child for a second. It’s a universal thing—both the father and the mother absolutely adore their kid. But if we’re being honest here, a mother’s love just has this different kind of tenderness to it. A man? He’s usually more grounded, more rational about how he handles things.
Men tend to see everything in black and white, like they’re stuck in some binary code where things are either right or wrong and there's nothing in between. It’s exhausting. We deal in a million different shades of gray, which actually makes us way more tuned in to what's happening around us—not that we just blindly accept it, but we actually process it. Because we’re more in touch with our emotions, we think on a much broader scale; we’re out here digging for the root causes and overanalyzing every little detail, while a man will just sit there and take whatever someone tells him at face value without a second thought.
Protecting the family? You ever see a mother bear defending her cub? It’s not even the same ballpark. When a woman snaps, she snaps hard. A man might lose his cool and get into a scrap, sure, but if a mother reaches that point where she strikes someone to protect her kid, she’s capable of killing. That instinct is absolutely wild—terrifying, honestly, but just wild.
Honestly, men are just naturally blunt sometimes, and I actually find that pretty refreshing. It’s simple. But when a woman decides to be honest? Man, she is *really* going for it. There is something incredibly powerful about a woman who actually takes the time to sit with her feelings, deconstruct them, and then looks you dead in the eye and tells you exactly what is happening inside her head. Most guys are "honest" just because they aren't overthinking things—they say what’s on their mind because they haven't bothered to process it yet. It’s just "this is how it is." But for women, honesty usually comes after a massive internal deep dive. We question everything, we dissect every emotion, and when we finally land on the truth, it carries so much more weight because it’s been earned.
I honestly think we’re just wired to feel things on a much deeper level than most people give us credit for. We process emotions more intensely, we live through experiences with this raw, heavy weight that others just don't seem to grasp. It’s like we’re tuned to a different frequency entirely.

Everything else boils down to what society expects from you, and honestly, I don't even compare those pressures to what men deal with. A woman can actually afford to fall apart sometimes; she can ask for help without the world ending. Women aren't forced to be this hyper-independent just because everyone around them expects it. But when a woman consciously pushes back against that pressure—when she decides to be truly self-sufficient, firm, and steady on her own feet—I find that absolutely incredible. Most people would probably dismiss this as some trivial thing, like if a cabinet door falls off its hinges, but look at how most women react: they’ll immediately call their boyfriend, a friend, or the neighbor to come fix it. Not me. To me, a "real" woman is the one who grabs that damn screwdriver, rolls up her sleeves, and gets to work herself, even if she ends up making a complete mess of it six times over. 🙂

Look, let’s be real here—upbringing and all those other circumstances play a massive role in who someone turns out to be. I get that. I really do. I don't hold it against women who just couldn't break free from the mess they were raised in or the situations they found themselves stuck in. But let me tell you something: I have nothing but respect for the ones who actually managed to pull themselves together and rise above it all. Those are the only ones I truly consider "real" in my eyes.

So, there you have it—hopefully I made myself clear... if I didn't, just let me know. Honestly, I feel like whenever I talk about my "rights," people over here just hear it as me saying "I appreciate this" or some other soft version of what I actually mean.

Anyway, catch ya later! 😍
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#102 ·
lonegardener said:Fritzl + Greek mythology😢

Sometimes I wish that device from Men in Black actually existed—you know, the one that wipes your brain clean. 🤣

I’d be first in line... though, honestly, I probably wouldn't be able to help myself. It would be mighty hard to resist.

I know, and I also know that you know it’s just dark humor. 😍
Sometimes I wish that device from Men in Black actually existed—you know, the one used to wipe someone's memory clean. 🤣

I’d be tempted to join in... though, honestly, I probably wouldn't "succumb"—but it would certainly be mighty hard to resist.

I'm not interested in that.
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
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joined Apr 2010
#103 ·
slymaker9 said:People can be incredibly inhumane.
Child trafficking and sexual exploitation are particularly horrific because, when facing an adult, children are undeniably the weaker party and are completely powerless.

I understand (to an extent) the motivation behind such women, though I cannot accept it as a mitigating factor. On the surface, it might seem easier to enter prostitution than to work manual labor jobs for pennies, but when you look deeper, the situation is reversed. It is "easier," conditionally speaking, because of the money, but the question is how much of that money actually belongs to them, given that pimps and the mafia are usually involved. Of course, women today don't even have to label themselves that way—being a "sugar baby" is enough.😁
I don't pity them; my empathy is directed more toward a deeper emotional level regarding how I process such a situation. I recognize that they think in a fundamentally different way than I do. At least, most of those whose stomachs can handle that kind of work just to live more comfortably.

Personally, I would find manual labor far easier than prostitution, without question.
But that is just me; I believe some women see prostitution as an easier path to survival. Truly easier, because they view it through a completely different lens.
They view their bodies and sexuality as tools for income, just as I view my intellect as a tool in my profession.
I pity them precisely because I believe this mindset is deeply self-defeating and degrading, and that this rationalization will eventually collapse if they live long enough.😢

Naturally, demand will always exist, and with it, supply. To me, the most tragic demand is the one for children.😢

There should really be draconian penalties for child trafficking and sexual exploitation. However, the real issue is that pedophilia is a disorder, making both the child and the adult essentially victims in the eyes of psychology. Severe punishments should be reserved specifically for the traffickers and pimps who act purely out of greed.

I have a question for Apemant: do you agree with this premise?

Lani was in Tunis, and I have generally observed that in certain Islamic countries, women can actually find themselves in much better positions and receive more respect than in the West. Once you scratch beneath the surface, you realize it isn't that simple.

I have a link for you:
http://news.us/crime/story...5/0073006.html 😲

So, ladies, if you were unfaithful, never admit the child isn't the husband's.

Tell me, do you believe that life is, in principle, simpler for men?

Why did you send me that link? Just to clear up any confusion, when I mentioned being "under attack," I was talking about that memory-erasing device from Men in Black, NOT locking a woman in a windowless, fortified room. 😲 🤣 🤣
Morgan Martin7 Morgan Martin7 Newcomer
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#104 ·
Jamie Jackson3 said:I'm just speaking hypothetically😁 (because if you actually found yourself attracted to men, you wouldn't find it so repulsive).
The crux of the matter is that, for this specific discussion, that's beside the point. My interest in living in a male body isn't driven by sexual attraction to women or anything of the sort; rather, it stems from certain practical considerations.😁

I really hope you grow out of that phase, though honestly, I probably would too if I were in your shoes... I'm attracted to men, sure, but not in that "gay" way, so even if I were a man for a while, it wouldn't change my orientation.
Being a man is definitely easier in some ways, though obviously, that isn't true for every guy out there—not everyone knows how to actually make use of the advantages of being male, and I suppose the same goes for women, too...
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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joined Apr 2008
#105 ·
slymaker9 said:People can be incredibly inhumane.
Child trafficking and sexual exploitation are particularly horrific because, when facing an adult, children are undeniably the weaker party and are completely powerless.

I understand (to an extent) the motivation behind such women, though I cannot accept it as a mitigating factor. On the surface, it might seem easier to enter prostitution than to work manual labor jobs for pennies, but when you look deeper, the situation is reversed. It is "easier," conditionally speaking, because of the money, but the question is how much of that money actually belongs to them, given that pimps and the mafia are usually involved. Of course, women today don't even have to label themselves that way—being a "sugar baby" is enough.😁
I don't pity them; my empathy is directed more toward a deeper emotional level regarding how I process such a situation. I recognize that they think in a fundamentally different way than I do. At least, most of those whose stomachs can handle that kind of work just to live more comfortably.

Personally, I would find manual labor far easier than prostitution, without question.
But that is just me; I believe some women see prostitution as an easier path to survival. Truly easier, because they view it through a completely different lens.
They view their bodies and sexuality as tools for income, just as I view my intellect as a tool in my profession.
I pity them precisely because I believe this mindset is deeply self-defeating and degrading, and that this rationalization will eventually collapse if they live long enough.😢

Naturally, demand will always exist, and with it, supply. To me, the most tragic demand is the one for children.😢

There should really be draconian penalties for child trafficking and sexual exploitation. However, the real issue is that pedophilia is a disorder, making both the child and the adult essentially victims in the eyes of psychology. Severe punishments should be reserved specifically for the traffickers and pimps who act purely out of greed.

I have a question for Apemant: do you agree with this premise?

Lani was in Tunis, and I have generally observed that in certain Islamic countries, women can actually find themselves in much better positions and receive more respect than in the West. Once you scratch beneath the surface, you realize it isn't that simple.

I have a link for you:
http://news.us/crime/story...5/0073006.html 😲

So, ladies, if you were unfaithful, never admit the child isn't the husband's.

Tell me, do you believe that life is, in principle, simpler for men?

I wouldn't bet the house on that. Maybe in certain specific instances, sure. But let’s not forget how incredibly good people are at lying to themselves.
Child trafficking and the sexual exploitation of minors should carry draconian penalties. However, the real issue is that pedophilia is a pathology, meaning both the child and the adult are essentially victims. The harshest sentences should be reserved specifically for the traffickers and pimps who act out of pure greed.

Agreed. I feel the exact same way about drug dealers.
Susan Lewis2 Susan Lewis2 Member
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#106 ·
northerneagle3, I suppose you were right to warn us beforehand that this is a generalization, given that there aren't really any set rules regarding the specific examples mentioned here.
Personally, I know a few mothers who are quite cold and rather reserved, yet they often think much less in terms of that black-and-white spectrum you described—where you mentioned expressing yourself in colors, if not full shades.
They simply are that way, and unfortunately, there isn't much one can do about it.
As for myself, I enjoy talking, dreaming, and philosophizing about just about everything; in that regard, I am much like many women. On the other hand, having lived independently for years, many have told me that I tend to function more like a man than a woman.
By that, I mean I don't overcomplicate things, I don't exhaust myself with trivialities, and I actually enjoy tackling whatever challenges come my way in various forms. However, I don't care for, say, vapid conversations about fashion, or dissecting how some woman on the cover of Vogue looks, or gossiping about other women and their appearance—which I’ve noticed many women seem to adore. Again, I don't wish to generalize, nor should I, but it seems to be a frequent occurrence. I was honestly surprised by how many women I've met who obsess over the clothing and looks of others to an almost mindless degree.
I don't know; there are no rules, I suppose. It comes down to individual character, and in that sense, I don't believe one can simply claim that women are one way and men are another.
There are surely men who are worlds apart in temperament as well... that's just how it is.

The role of women in society—ranging from the workplace to the home and the opportunities available in life—is a subject that could sustain endless discussion. It's a perennial topic that many experts tackle, and there are even dedicated gender studies programs right here in the States (I actually met a professor from one recently). But, I won't delve into all that; I'm merely noting that it's one lens through which one could view these matters.
What I mentioned in my first post on this topic remains true for me: personally, menstruation and certain hormonal shifts that women experience are bothersome. From that perspective, I imagine I would be much more satisfied if they didn't exist; I think I would feel far more comfortable and free, not to repeat what I wrote previously.
But aside from when I find myself circling back to this topic, I don't dwell on it too much. I was born a woman, and that is simply the reality; I don't spend too much time daydreaming about "what if."
northerneagle3 northerneagle3 Member
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#107 ·
Oh, come on, that is such a massive overgeneralization... everyone is different, and honestly, I don't think there are two people on this planet who agree on absolutely everything. What I laid out weren't some set of rigid rules, but more like qualities you look for in an icon or someone you admire. When I run into a woman who actually embodies those traits, that’s when I say, "Okay, now *that* is a real woman." Not some spoiled little prima donna who's constantly whining and can't figure out how to function without someone holding her hand.

And frankly, because of women like that, I wouldn't want to be a man. I mean, I'd satisfy my curiosity for a day, sure, but that's about it. Even though I find the way men operate pretty fascinating, I wouldn't trade being a woman for anything. 🙂
slymaker9 slymaker9 Active MemberOP
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joined Apr 2010
#108 ·
northerneagle3 said:Alright, I'm back. 🙂

First off, I think we’re just talking past each other because we’re using different definitions here. When I say I respect or don't respect someone, I’m talking about whether I consider them "real"—you know that feeling when you see a woman and just think, "Yeah, she’s the real deal, hats off to her." That’s what I mean by "real" women. But if we’re strictly looking at the biology of it, then obviously every woman is real, and I totally agree that while we all have our similarities, we’re all incredibly different individuals. 🙂

So, here’s the thing... how exactly is a woman supposed to express traits that any man could carry too? It’s such a ridiculous question when you really sit down and think about it. Look, I’m about to go off on a massive generalization here, so consider this your fair warning... 🙂
Look, let’s just talk about the love for a child for a second. It’s a universal thing—both the father and the mother absolutely adore their kid. But if we’re being honest here, a mother’s love just has this different kind of tenderness to it. A man? He’s usually more grounded, more rational about how he handles things.
Men tend to see everything in black and white, like they’re stuck in some binary code where things are either right or wrong and there's nothing in between. It’s exhausting. We deal in a million different shades of gray, which actually makes us way more tuned in to what's happening around us—not that we just blindly accept it, but we actually process it. Because we’re more in touch with our emotions, we think on a much broader scale; we’re out here digging for the root causes and overanalyzing every little detail, while a man will just sit there and take whatever someone tells him at face value without a second thought.
Protecting the family? You ever see a mother bear defending her cub? It’s not even the same ballpark. When a woman snaps, she snaps hard. A man might lose his cool and get into a scrap, sure, but if a mother reaches that point where she strikes someone to protect her kid, she’s capable of killing. That instinct is absolutely wild—terrifying, honestly, but just wild.
Honestly, men are just naturally blunt sometimes, and I actually find that pretty refreshing. It’s simple. But when a woman decides to be honest? Man, she is *really* going for it. There is something incredibly powerful about a woman who actually takes the time to sit with her feelings, deconstruct them, and then looks you dead in the eye and tells you exactly what is happening inside her head. Most guys are "honest" just because they aren't overthinking things—they say what’s on their mind because they haven't bothered to process it yet. It’s just "this is how it is." But for women, honesty usually comes after a massive internal deep dive. We question everything, we dissect every emotion, and when we finally land on the truth, it carries so much more weight because it’s been earned.
I honestly think we’re just wired to feel things on a much deeper level than most people give us credit for. We process emotions more intensely, we live through experiences with this raw, heavy weight that others just don't seem to grasp. It’s like we’re tuned to a different frequency entirely.

Everything else boils down to what society expects from you, and honestly, I don't even compare those pressures to what men deal with. A woman can actually afford to fall apart sometimes; she can ask for help without the world ending. Women aren't forced to be this hyper-independent just because everyone around them expects it. But when a woman consciously pushes back against that pressure—when she decides to be truly self-sufficient, firm, and steady on her own feet—I find that absolutely incredible. Most people would probably dismiss this as some trivial thing, like if a cabinet door falls off its hinges, but look at how most women react: they’ll immediately call their boyfriend, a friend, or the neighbor to come fix it. Not me. To me, a "real" woman is the one who grabs that damn screwdriver, rolls up her sleeves, and gets to work herself, even if she ends up making a complete mess of it six times over. 🙂

Look, let’s be real here—upbringing and all those other circumstances play a massive role in who someone turns out to be. I get that. I really do. I don't hold it against women who just couldn't break free from the mess they were raised in or the situations they found themselves stuck in. But let me tell you something: I have nothing but respect for the ones who actually managed to pull themselves together and rise above it all. Those are the only ones I truly consider "real" in my eyes.

So, there you have it—hopefully I made myself clear... if I didn't, just let me know. Honestly, I feel like whenever I talk about my "rights," people over here just hear it as me saying "I appreciate this" or some other soft version of what I actually mean.

Anyway, catch ya later! 😍

Beautiful post; it would have been a shame if you hadn't written it.🙂

lonegardener said:Why did you send me that link? Just to clear up any confusion, when I mentioned being "under attack," I was talking about that memory-erasing device from Men in Black, NOT locking a woman in a windowless, fortified room. 😲 🤣 🤣

It fit perfectly with what you were saying, and honestly, you're the only guy here actually sticking to the topic without being completely wasted.😉
That aside, you didn't answer my question: do you believe men, as a general rule, find it easier to navigate through life?

Sean Cruz said:I wouldn't bet the house on that. Maybe in certain specific instances, sure. But let’s not forget how incredibly good people are at lying to themselves.
Child trafficking and the sexual exploitation of minors should carry draconian penalties. However, the real issue is that pedophilia is a pathology, meaning both the child and the adult are essentially victims. The harshest sentences should be reserved specifically for the traffickers and pimps who act out of pure greed.

Agreed. I feel the exact same way about drug dealers.

Good for them, then. A solid defense mechanism is worth its weight in gold.🙂
And what exactly is there to empathize with? How can I feel for someone who doesn't feel anything at all?🤷
copperfox22 copperfox22 Active Member
75 messages
joined Feb 2008
#109 ·
Absolutely!!!! 🙏

Man, for as long as I can remember, I’ve honestly felt like I was meant to be born male 🤣 (and honestly, I think I would've been way happier that way 😬 ))

(So don't go being mean about it—I am, in every sense of the word, a woman 😛 😁))
Arthur Kim74 Arthur Kim74 Active Member
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joined Jun 2010
#110 ·
slymaker9 said:I have to point out that women are frequently labeled as indecisive or as people who don't actually know what they want, yet if you look at the survey results, nobody even chose the "I don't know" option.

It was actually pretty interesting to me how everyone just bypassed that choice entirely...
gentlehound9 gentlehound9 Active Member
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joined Oct 2010
#111 ·
I honestly think I’d love to swap genders for just one week, purely out of curiosity to see how the mechanics actually work. Naturally, the very first thing on my checklist would be figuring out what sex feels like from their perspective. 😁
Three months seems like a stretch, though—I suspect I’d start losing my mind by then. But during my period? Every single month, I find myself wishing I was just born a man for the rest of my life. 🤣
And don't even get me started on the fact that, eventually, I might actually have to give birth. It’s enough to make me want to pass out.
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
347 messages
joined Apr 2010
#112 ·
slymaker9 said:Beautiful post; it would have been a shame if you hadn't written it.🙂

It fit perfectly with what you were saying, and honestly, you're the only guy here actually sticking to the topic without being completely wasted.😉
That aside, you didn't answer my question: do you believe men, as a general rule, find it easier to navigate through life?

Good for them, then. A solid defense mechanism is worth its weight in gold.🙂
And what exactly is there to empathize with? How can I feel for someone who doesn't feel anything at all?🤷

Hmm, maybe it is, in a way. 🤷 (Especially in certain parts of the world)

If you look at it purely from a statistical standpoint, sure. But I don't know how much those numbers actually matter to you. Statistics deal in "majorities," and a majority is just an average. 😬 It sounds like you aren't just looking at this through your own experience, but rather through some lens of metaphysical or social "justice." That’s a whole different conversation, though. Honestly, I don't see what’s "unjust" about one person being born beautiful, smart, and talented while someone else ends up plain, dull, and untalented 🤷.

At the end of the day, those statistics don't help or hurt you personally (or me).
Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#113 ·
Andrew Cox7 said:Yeah.
I can't help but wonder if she’d feel totally different, and if so, how exactly?
Like, would she actually get an erection for women? haha
What would it even be like to carry that thing around... and what does it actually feel like to use it?

Man, she would definitely figure out what guys are all about once and for all.😁
I mean, seriously, I think she'd be way better at actually understanding us.😉

Yeah, just for a day... just to see what their thoughts are like, or their headspace, and what kind of physical reactions the opposite sex—which would be women that day, lol—would trigger in her... it wouldn't be great to go out with a hot guy and then have my... hm...😁 And then maybe hang out with the guys for a bit, just to see what they actually talk about when there isn't a single woman around...
But looking at the long term, I wouldn't want to be a man. I'm pretty happy in my own skin... being a woman is great...🙂
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
265 messages
joined Apr 2008
#114 ·
slymaker9 said:Beautiful post; it would have been a shame if you hadn't written it.🙂

It fit perfectly with what you were saying, and honestly, you're the only guy here actually sticking to the topic without being completely wasted.😉
That aside, you didn't answer my question: do you believe men, as a general rule, find it easier to navigate through life?

Good for them, then. A solid defense mechanism is worth its weight in gold.🙂
And what exactly is there to empathize with? How can I feel for someone who doesn't feel anything at all?🤷

Well, I honestly don't know. I already mentioned that I can't find a rational reason to feel that way. Maybe if reincarnation is actually a thing, 🤔 I was some sort of sensitive courtesan in a past life. 😁 🤣
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
265 messages
joined Apr 2008
#115 ·
northerneagle3 said:Alright, I'm back. 🙂

First off, I think we’re just talking past each other because we’re using different definitions here. When I say I respect or don't respect someone, I’m talking about whether I consider them "real"—you know that feeling when you see a woman and just think, "Yeah, she’s the real deal, hats off to her." That’s what I mean by "real" women. But if we’re strictly looking at the biology of it, then obviously every woman is real, and I totally agree that while we all have our similarities, we’re all incredibly different individuals. 🙂

So, here’s the thing... how exactly is a woman supposed to express traits that any man could carry too? It’s such a ridiculous question when you really sit down and think about it. Look, I’m about to go off on a massive generalization here, so consider this your fair warning... 🙂
Look, let’s just talk about the love for a child for a second. It’s a universal thing—both the father and the mother absolutely adore their kid. But if we’re being honest here, a mother’s love just has this different kind of tenderness to it. A man? He’s usually more grounded, more rational about how he handles things.
Men tend to see everything in black and white, like they’re stuck in some binary code where things are either right or wrong and there's nothing in between. It’s exhausting. We deal in a million different shades of gray, which actually makes us way more tuned in to what's happening around us—not that we just blindly accept it, but we actually process it. Because we’re more in touch with our emotions, we think on a much broader scale; we’re out here digging for the root causes and overanalyzing every little detail, while a man will just sit there and take whatever someone tells him at face value without a second thought.
Protecting the family? You ever see a mother bear defending her cub? It’s not even the same ballpark. When a woman snaps, she snaps hard. A man might lose his cool and get into a scrap, sure, but if a mother reaches that point where she strikes someone to protect her kid, she’s capable of killing. That instinct is absolutely wild—terrifying, honestly, but just wild.
Honestly, men are just naturally blunt sometimes, and I actually find that pretty refreshing. It’s simple. But when a woman decides to be honest? Man, she is *really* going for it. There is something incredibly powerful about a woman who actually takes the time to sit with her feelings, deconstruct them, and then looks you dead in the eye and tells you exactly what is happening inside her head. Most guys are "honest" just because they aren't overthinking things—they say what’s on their mind because they haven't bothered to process it yet. It’s just "this is how it is." But for women, honesty usually comes after a massive internal deep dive. We question everything, we dissect every emotion, and when we finally land on the truth, it carries so much more weight because it’s been earned.
I honestly think we’re just wired to feel things on a much deeper level than most people give us credit for. We process emotions more intensely, we live through experiences with this raw, heavy weight that others just don't seem to grasp. It’s like we’re tuned to a different frequency entirely.

Everything else boils down to what society expects from you, and honestly, I don't even compare those pressures to what men deal with. A woman can actually afford to fall apart sometimes; she can ask for help without the world ending. Women aren't forced to be this hyper-independent just because everyone around them expects it. But when a woman consciously pushes back against that pressure—when she decides to be truly self-sufficient, firm, and steady on her own feet—I find that absolutely incredible. Most people would probably dismiss this as some trivial thing, like if a cabinet door falls off its hinges, but look at how most women react: they’ll immediately call their boyfriend, a friend, or the neighbor to come fix it. Not me. To me, a "real" woman is the one who grabs that damn screwdriver, rolls up her sleeves, and gets to work herself, even if she ends up making a complete mess of it six times over. 🙂

Look, let’s be real here—upbringing and all those other circumstances play a massive role in who someone turns out to be. I get that. I really do. I don't hold it against women who just couldn't break free from the mess they were raised in or the situations they found themselves stuck in. But let me tell you something: I have nothing but respect for the ones who actually managed to pull themselves together and rise above it all. Those are the only ones I truly consider "real" in my eyes.

So, there you have it—hopefully I made myself clear... if I didn't, just let me know. Honestly, I feel like whenever I talk about my "rights," people over here just hear it as me saying "I appreciate this" or some other soft version of what I actually mean.

Anyway, catch ya later! 😍

This is absolutely true. I’ve experienced firsthand just how far I’m willing to go when my child's life is on the line. There was one time my husband almost met a tragic end because he didn't watch the baby like we agreed; he fell asleep, and the little one wandered off. If I hadn't found her, I don't think he would have survived the fallout, regardless of how much stronger he is than me. 😳
Kevin Flores2 Kevin Flores2 Member
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#116 ·
I’d love to. Maybe we could aim for about a week? 🤔
slymaker9 slymaker9 Active MemberOP
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#117 ·
lonegardener said:Hmm, maybe it is, in a way. 🤷 (Especially in certain parts of the world)

If you look at it purely from a statistical standpoint, sure. But I don't know how much those numbers actually matter to you. Statistics deal in "majorities," and a majority is just an average. 😬 It sounds like you aren't just looking at this through your own experience, but rather through some lens of metaphysical or social "justice." That’s a whole different conversation, though. Honestly, I don't see what’s "unjust" about one person being born beautiful, smart, and talented while someone else ends up plain, dull, and untalented 🤷.

At the end of the day, those statistics don't help or hurt you personally (or me).

Essentially, I believe women often hold a prejudice that men always have it easier, better, and simpler, and they frequently use that to rationalize certain things.
Generally speaking, men find it harder to open up; they complain less, talk less about their intimate struggles, and are less inclined to overanalyze problems because they were raised to be men and to remain strong. I think that is why it sometimes seems to women that men have far fewer issues.

That is why I would love to try living as a man for a week, just to experience it firsthand.

In many life situations, men are indeed in a better position, but there are just as many scenarios where women hold the advantage.

It isn't easy being a man, whether you lean modern or traditional.
If you are "modern," you have to balance satisfying women—who want you to be caring, gentle, communicative, and supportive—with ensuring your male friends don't label you as soft or weak.
If you take a more traditional approach, you carry the massive burden of being the successful provider and the head of the household who always knows exactly what to do.
It is not that simple.

Which is why I'd like to test it out. And for the sake of peeing standing up. Peeing is 👍

Sean Cruz said:Well, I honestly don't know. I already mentioned that I can't find a rational reason to feel that way. Maybe if reincarnation is actually a thing, 🤔 I was some sort of sensitive courtesan in a past life. 😁 🤣

You remind me more of a sensitive Madam.😁🤣
fadedheron892 fadedheron892 Active Member
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#118 ·
Nah, I'm good, thanks 😍
slymaker9 slymaker9 Active MemberOP
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#119 ·
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePresencePortal#p/a

Here is an interesting link for you.
I find the argument quite compelling: the idea that if women want to step outside traditional gender roles, they essentially have to adopt masculine behaviors to succeed. There is certainly some truth to that.
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
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joined Apr 2010
#120 ·
slymaker9 said:Essentially, I believe women often hold a prejudice that men always have it easier, better, and simpler, and they frequently use that to rationalize certain things.
Generally speaking, men find it harder to open up; they complain less, talk less about their intimate struggles, and are less inclined to overanalyze problems because they were raised to be men and to remain strong. I think that is why it sometimes seems to women that men have far fewer issues.

That is why I would love to try living as a man for a week, just to experience it firsthand.

In many life situations, men are indeed in a better position, but there are just as many scenarios where women hold the advantage.

It isn't easy being a man, whether you lean modern or traditional.
If you are "modern," you have to balance satisfying women—who want you to be caring, gentle, communicative, and supportive—with ensuring your male friends don't label you as soft or weak.
If you take a more traditional approach, you carry the massive burden of being the successful provider and the head of the household who always knows exactly what to do.
It is not that simple.

Which is why I'd like to test it out. And for the sake of peeing standing up. Peeing is 👍

You remind me more of a sensitive Madam.😁🤣

I hear you, but why? 🤷 Personally, I don't have any burning desire to be a woman for even a single day. Especially not a gorgeous woman who has every guy in town tripping over themselves to get her attention. 🤣

I mean, if we're talking fantasies, I'd much rather be able to fly through the sky and hurl fireballs around. LOL.

Or okay, maybe something a bit more "realistic." I’d like to spend three weeks being the oldest son, three weeks as the middle child in a family of fourteen, three weeks as the baby of the family, three weeks as one of two identical twins, three weeks as a famous actor, three weeks as a Nobel laureate, three weeks as a heavy machinery operator, three weeks as the CEO of ExxonMobil, three weeks as Roger Federer... basically, any version of all those incredible things I'll never be. I'd choose all of those before spending even three weeks as a woman (and then there's all the different versions—the busty blonde, the intellectual with no curves, the overweight lady with a mustache, etc.).

See, I don't get why you think "being a man" is such a simple, singular thing. Like, if you were "a man" for three weeks, you'd supposedly "know" how it feels? Not really. You'd know what it's like to be THAT specific man, and nothing else. You still wouldn't know what it's like to be in my shoes. 🤣

slymaker9 said:Essentially, I believe women often hold a prejudice that men always have it easier, better, and simpler, and they frequently use that to rationalize certain things.
Generally speaking, men find it harder to open up; they complain less, talk less about their intimate struggles, and are less inclined to overanalyze problems because they were raised to be men and to remain strong. I think that is why it sometimes seems to women that men have far fewer issues.

That is why I would love to try living as a man for a week, just to experience it firsthand.

In many life situations, men are indeed in a better position, but there are just as many scenarios where women hold the advantage.

It isn't easy being a man, whether you lean modern or traditional.
If you are "modern," you have to balance satisfying women—who want you to be caring, gentle, communicative, and supportive—with ensuring your male friends don't label you as soft or weak.
If you take a more traditional approach, you carry the massive burden of being the successful provider and the head of the household who always knows exactly what to do.
It is not that simple.

Which is why I'd like to test it out. And for the sake of peeing standing up. Peeing is 👍

You remind me more of a sensitive Madam.😁🤣

True. But those statistical trends, as I mentioned, don't mean much for a specific individual in a specific set of circumstances, regardless of gender.

slymaker9 said:Essentially, I believe women often hold a prejudice that men always have it easier, better, and simpler, and they frequently use that to rationalize certain things.
Generally speaking, men find it harder to open up; they complain less, talk less about their intimate struggles, and are less inclined to overanalyze problems because they were raised to be men and to remain strong. I think that is why it sometimes seems to women that men have far fewer issues.

That is why I would love to try living as a man for a week, just to experience it firsthand.

In many life situations, men are indeed in a better position, but there are just as many scenarios where women hold the advantage.

It isn't easy being a man, whether you lean modern or traditional.
If you are "modern," you have to balance satisfying women—who want you to be caring, gentle, communicative, and supportive—with ensuring your male friends don't label you as soft or weak.
If you take a more traditional approach, you carry the massive burden of being the successful provider and the head of the household who always knows exactly what to do.
It is not that simple.

Which is why I'd like to test it out. And for the sake of peeing standing up. Peeing is 👍

You remind me more of a sensitive Madam.😁🤣

Interesting. For me, sitting down is the way to go—keeps things from splashing everywhere. 🤣

Besides, women can pee standing up too. 🤷 Just head out into the wilderness where you're totally alone and don't have to worry about "aiming"... and just enjoy the freedom, LOL.

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