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Should R. Čačić just step down from politics already?

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Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#201 ·
hiddensurfer17 said:I doubt it. He’ll probably just buy himself an acquittal.

Just like how his old man bought that kid mentioned earlier a house and paid off the victim's wife to make things go away? Why on earth do you people assume everyone is a Republican partisan?

Is this just a thing within the USA justice system, then?

Come on, let's not be hypocritical here...
briskbison55 briskbison55 Active Member
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joined Jun 2009
#202 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Aha, so you're just talking nonsense regarding the collision, while I—the supposed "genius" who's actually correcting you—am just using demagoguery? Classic move from people writing about things they clearly don't understand...

Look, it's not my fault gym was your favorite subject back in school...

And the part about probation? That was brought up by actual lawyers... though I highly doubt your grasp of the law is any better than your grasp of physics, so, basically zero...

Nobody is saying he didn't hit them; the point is that we need to determine the exact speed...

People like you think a seventh grader could figure this out—it's a joke, really... though I suppose it does reflect your level of understanding of the subject matter...

Wait, where and when did you actually correct me? In any thread? Any topic at all? Don't get ahead of yourself here.

It's not my fault if gym class was your favorite subject back in school...

We had gym class with girls too, so if that wasn't your favorite subject, man, you really had it rough :-)

And legal experts were the ones mentioning probation... and I highly doubt your knowledge of the law is any better than your knowledge of physics, so... basically nothing.

You won't find an American lawyer anywhere mentioning probation for an offense where someone drove into someone else and killed two people. You wouldn't hear that here, but our justice system doesn't care about that in this case.

Nobody is saying there wasn't a collision, it's just being argued that we need to determine the exact speed...

The speed isn't even the point, and it doesn't change the fact that a collision happened with fatal consequences.

People like you think a seventh grader could figure this out... it's honestly laughable... though it does show your level of understanding of the subject...

You've started throwing around technical terms now, maybe just slow down and actually read what I'm writing. You'll see that you're very careful when it comes to judging a killer who shares your ideology, but you're incredibly quick to judge anyone who isn't on the party list.
briskbison55 briskbison55 Active Member
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joined Jun 2009
#203 ·
James Nguyen13 said:So, I saw this massive headline on Newsweek today: "Son of powerful Republican Party figure caught up in traffic accident scandal."
I can't help but wonder, will the media coverage stay this intense once the verdict comes down for Kennedy?

I mean, you can really look at it any way you want, I guess. If someone like a random tech CEO had done something similar, maybe there wouldn't be a single news story about it on our major outlets or in the media at all. But since Čačić is part of this whole political package that's been sold to the public for so long now, suddenly our entire media landscape is being super cautious... almost too subtle, you know? It feels a bit sad and, honestly, pretty gross.
Jason Bennett56 Jason Bennett56 Member
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joined Mar 2004
#204 ·
He isn't going to step down because he’s playing the numbers. He knows if he does, they won't treat him like a major party leader here in America; they'll just brush him off as some minor third-party politician instead of a key player...
As for morality... please. As if there's any actual morality left with Cacic!!!!😂
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#205 ·
briskbison55 said:Wait, where and when did you actually correct me? In any thread? Any topic at all? Don't get ahead of yourself here.

It's not my fault if gym class was your favorite subject back in school...

We had gym class with girls too, so if that wasn't your favorite subject, man, you really had it rough :-)

And legal experts were the ones mentioning probation... and I highly doubt your knowledge of the law is any better than your knowledge of physics, so... basically nothing.

You won't find an American lawyer anywhere mentioning probation for an offense where someone drove into someone else and killed two people. You wouldn't hear that here, but our justice system doesn't care about that in this case.

Nobody is saying there wasn't a collision, it's just being argued that we need to determine the exact speed...

The speed isn't even the point, and it doesn't change the fact that a collision happened with fatal consequences.

People like you think a seventh grader could figure this out... it's honestly laughable... though it does show your level of understanding of the subject...

You've started throwing around technical terms now, maybe just slow down and actually read what I'm writing. You'll see that you're very careful when it comes to judging a killer who shares your ideology, but you're incredibly quick to judge anyone who isn't on the party list.

I'm telling you again, learn the basic terminology first, and then maybe we can talk...

It's like me writing "ZOME" while you lecture me on kinetic energy... pure ignorance...

Or take the example you gave, which just proves you're mixing up elastic and inelastic collisions...

So, don't go getting cocky... it’s hard to correct someone who's too ignorant to realize where and how they're being corrected...

And guessing the speed is absolutely vital... because you guys keep playing that game, hiding behind someone else's estimates of the speed...

And I still haven't heard a single thing about the impact of mass on the collision... other than some pathetic, feeble attempt to dodge responsibility just to look smart...
Jonathan Williams46 Jonathan Williams46 Newcomer
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#206 ·
Čačić is a complete lunatic, a career politician and a tycoon through and through. Are we seriously expecting him to have a conscience after those two people died?? I mean, hello?
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#207 ·

A little snippet from Cacic's autobiography!!
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#208 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

A little snippet from Cacic's autobiography!!

And why exactly would that be the truth?

Because some guy on a forum said so? A guy with, what, 36 posts total? And he just "happens" to pop up right when we're talking about Čačić... hmmm.
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#209 ·
Adam Collins4 said:And why exactly would that be the truth?

Because some guy on a forum said so? A guy with, what, 36 posts total? And he just "happens" to pop up right when we're talking about Čačić... hmmm.


Oh sure, you and Cacic are the only ones who know the truth
while the rest of us are just liars and idiots!!!

We trust you guys more than our own eyes!!
Don't act like you didn't show up here on purpose!!

What was that you said about those previous failures by Cacic? How did they actually go down?!

Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#210 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

Oh sure, you and Cacic are the only ones who know the truth
while the rest of us are just liars and idiots!!!

We trust you guys more than our own eyes!!
Don't act like you didn't show up here on purpose!!

What was that you said about those previous failures by Cacic? How did they actually go down?!


I’m just noticing how a guy with practically zero posts suddenly pops up on a thread about Čačić, acting like he has some deep, personal history with him... which is interesting, to say the very least...
Nicole Murphy Nicole Murphy Newcomer
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#211 ·
Adam Collins4, are you kidding me right now? For real?

Is there some kind of connection between you and Čačić? Because let’s be real—the facts don't lie. He was speeding, and that's the main reason this tragedy happened. Period.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#212 ·
Nicole Murphy said:Adam Collins4, are you kidding me right now? For real?

Is there some kind of connection between you and Čačić? Because let’s be real—the facts don't lie. He was speeding, and that's the main reason this tragedy happened. Period.

Of course it’s obvious he was going faster than the car in front of him; the only real question is by how much...

I never said he wasn't responsible, or that he isn't to blame... I'm just saying we need to pin down the exact degree of fault...

That's all...

And regarding that other topic—where some random guy popped up on the Forum—it always smells fishy to me when someone with, what, three posts to their name, suddenly shows up claiming to be an eyewitness to a situation everyone else is dying to get the backstory on...
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#213 ·
Adam Collins4 said:I’m just noticing how a guy with practically zero posts suddenly pops up on a thread about Čačić, acting like he has some deep, personal history with him... which is interesting, to say the very least...



Like people don't have anything better to do than hang out on this Forum
defending their favorites—like you!!
Look who showed up in the Cacic !!!! thread!!

You're the one who's actually interesting!!!!!

Why do you never ask for proof from the people you actually agree with???!!
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#214 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

Like people don't have anything better to do than hang out on this Forum
defending their favorites—like you!!
Look who showed up in the Cacic !!!! thread!!

You're the one who's actually interesting!!!!!

Why do you never ask for proof from the people you actually agree with???!!

If I say he's guilty, how exactly am I defending him?

Since when does telling people to wait for actual, relevant data count as "defending" someone?

The days of the mob mentality and the mindless pile-ons ended a long time ago...
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#215 ·
Adam Collins4 said:If I say he's guilty, how exactly am I defending him?

Since when does telling people to wait for actual, relevant data count as "defending" someone?

The days of the mob mentality and the mindless pile-ons ended a long time ago...


At first you were all like—if he’s guilty!!!!
You even denied that people actually have to adapt to driving conditions!

Now, just because there's a mention of Cacic hitting him with a car,
you immediately call everything suspicious and start counting his posts...

This isn't exactly clean play!!
Just like those EU classifications or those court experts...

If anyone actually paid me to represent people on this Forum,
I’d quit immediately and give the money back. I’d rather take down any accused
by calling them liars, calling them incompetent, or saying we need to wait for a verdict...
And all of this—na rub politika !!!! !!!!!

This isn't some sponsored topic...

At least you were willing to admit stuff is learned during freshman year of college,
but now you've dropped all the way down to middle school and elementary level logic!!

😍
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#216 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

At first you were all like—if he’s guilty!!!!
You even denied that people actually have to adapt to driving conditions!

Now, just because there's a mention of Cacic hitting him with a car,
you immediately call everything suspicious and start counting his posts...

This isn't exactly clean play!!
Just like those EU classifications or those court experts...

If anyone actually paid me to represent people on this Forum,
I’d quit immediately and give the money back. I’d rather take down any accused
by calling them liars, calling them incompetent, or saying we need to wait for a verdict...
And all of this—na rub politika !!!! !!!!!

This isn't some sponsored topic...

At least you were willing to admit stuff is learned during freshman year of college,
but now you've dropped all the way down to middle school and elementary level logic!!

😍

I wasn't denying that you have to adjust your speed based on road conditions... I was just pointing out that it's not the only factor involved—there are other variables at play too...

Look, if you get hit by a car while you're on a motorcycle, things don't end well... especially if you're sitting around waiting for the police to show up. In most cases, an ambulance is the absolute bare minimum you're going to need...

And yeah, I went down to the elementary school level, because honestly, some of you people on this forum clearly haven't even mastered the basics...

Once again, you're showing a total lack of understanding regarding the correlation between speed and friction... just like that other guy above who can't distinguish types of collisions and doesn't understand the most fundamental laws of energy transfer...

How am I supposed to explain this stuff to you people?

And by the way, where exactly did I say "if he's at fault"?
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#217 ·
Adam Collins4 said:I wasn't denying that you have to adjust your speed based on road conditions... I was just pointing out that it's not the only factor involved—there are other variables at play too...

Look, if you get hit by a car while you're on a motorcycle, things don't end well... especially if you're sitting around waiting for the police to show up. In most cases, an ambulance is the absolute bare minimum you're going to need...

And yeah, I went down to the elementary school level, because honestly, some of you people on this forum clearly haven't even mastered the basics...

Once again, you're showing a total lack of understanding regarding the correlation between speed and friction... just like that other guy above who can't distinguish types of collisions and doesn't understand the most fundamental laws of energy transfer...

How am I supposed to explain this stuff to you people?

And by the way, where exactly did I say "if he's at fault"?


What are you even talking about? What correlation?! And where did I ever mention that?!?!

It's literally provable here that Čačić slammed into a car that had already hit a guardrail!

You're doing the exact same thing right now—trying to claim one impact is bigger than the other just by looking at photos!!!

You're claiming there's no such thing as an "adjustment" formula in the European Union, which I'm gonna prove wrong later!

There's an "if," sure, but I'm done following your trolling!
I've noticed you call everyone a liar, a blowhard, or a loudmouth...

Honestly, you're more exhausting than anyone else here!!
I'm waiting for that famous European Union classification of yours—it's about time!!
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#218 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

What are you even talking about? What correlation?! And where did I ever mention that?!?!

It's literally provable here that Čačić slammed into a car that had already hit a guardrail!

You're doing the exact same thing right now—trying to claim one impact is bigger than the other just by looking at photos!!!

You're claiming there's no such thing as an "adjustment" formula in the European Union, which I'm gonna prove wrong later!

There's an "if," sure, but I'm done following your trolling!
I've noticed you call everyone a liar, a blowhard, or a loudmouth...

Honestly, you're more exhausting than anyone else here!!
I'm waiting for that famous European Union classification of yours—it's about time!!


I am not "proving" anything; we are discussing a hypothetical scenario regarding whether that Ford hit the guardrail before or after the collision...

Stop lying and cherry-picking posts like a fraud—show the whole conversation.

I am well and truly done with you, your lies, and your constant manipulation...

Once again, you're displaying a total lack of understanding regarding the relationship between velocity and friction—just like the first time, when I suggested you hit the car in front because you were speeding, and you insisted it wasn't speed, but rather sudden braking...

Son, that is a fundamental failure to grasp the connection between speed and frictional force... and frankly, I don't feel like teaching you physics.

Between your nonsense about hardness versus strength and your confusion over bluntness versus softness, you've made it clear you don't grasp the basics—even though two different people have tried to explain them to you.

And for the record, where did I ever say he wasn't at fault? Where did I write that Čačić isn't to blame?

I'll be waiting for you to produce proof for those lies...
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
103 messages
joined Jun 2007
#219 ·
Adam Collins4 said:I am not "proving" anything; we are discussing a hypothetical scenario regarding whether that Ford hit the guardrail before or after the collision...

Stop lying and cherry-picking posts like a fraud—show the whole conversation.

I am well and truly done with you, your lies, and your constant manipulation...

Once again, you're displaying a total lack of understanding regarding the relationship between velocity and friction—just like the first time, when I suggested you hit the car in front because you were speeding, and you insisted it wasn't speed, but rather sudden braking...

Son, that is a fundamental failure to grasp the connection between speed and frictional force... and frankly, I don't feel like teaching you physics.

Between your nonsense about hardness versus strength and your confusion over bluntness versus softness, you've made it clear you don't grasp the basics—even though two different people have tried to explain them to you.

And for the record, where did I ever say he wasn't at fault? Where did I write that Čačić isn't to blame?

I'll be waiting for you to produce proof for those lies...


A-ha!
So you're just "debating hypothetically" while the rest of us are all liars
and apparently need to post more than you just to have the right to speak!!

I didn't cut anything out. I posted the link to the entire thread!!
If anyone actually cares, they can read the whole thing themselves!

You asked for proof, so I gave it!
The rest of this is just me being done with you
because you demand proof from everyone and call them liars or frauds...
Anyone you disagree with gets labeled that way, while you act like you're the expert
making hypothetical guesses just to defend whoever's probably paying your bills!

Glad I finally met you—the smartest guy on this forum in history!!!


😍
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#220 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

A-ha!
So you're just "debating hypothetically" while the rest of us are all liars
and apparently need to post more than you just to have the right to speak!!

I didn't cut anything out. I posted the link to the entire thread!!
If anyone actually cares, they can read the whole thing themselves!

You asked for proof, so I gave it!
The rest of this is just me being done with you
because you demand proof from everyone and call them liars or frauds...
Anyone you disagree with gets labeled that way, while you act like you're the expert
making hypothetical guesses just to defend whoever's probably paying your bills!

Glad I finally met you—the smartest guy on this forum in history!!!


😍

No, you told a lie... because you claimed I was proving how a Ford hit the fence... which isn't what happened... and as long as you keep making stuff up like that, I'm going to call you a liar, because that's exactly what you are...

So, here we go—just another lie in a long line of them... I was simply explaining how one could deduce what happened beforehand, assuming it even happened at all...

Just like how you lied about me saying Čačić wasn't at fault... you're a persistent liar, and people keep catching you in those lies... starting all the way back during that presidential election thread...

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