Should R. Čačić just step down from politics already?

Charles Martin2 said:

Let's start comparing someone's marriage to public dating
since we can do it with a private bank too!!
Should Čačić get a divorce then?!

😍

Or, say, if Čačić hits his own private wife
should he quit politics then!?

Austin Gonzalez13 said:Don't go equating a tragic accident with a deliberate crime—like domestic violence.
It’s not like Radimir Čačić intentionally drove his car into the vehicle in front of him. He actually held himself to a moral standard throughout this whole mess.
Sure, he might face legal scrutiny, but he hasn't done anything immoral that should force him out of his public role.

Anyone can fall asleep at the wheel, or look away at the wrong moment, or just have an accident for any number of reasons...

Charles Martin2 said:

I highly doubt "anyone" can make that mistake multiple times.
It’s never happened to me—not one fender bender, not one rear-end collision!!
I don't even know anyone who's been in something like that!!
How many total wrecks and car crashes have you been in?!

And hitting a woman has to be accidental, unintentional, and totally unplanned!!!

Austin Gonzalez13 said:To be perfectly honest, I can count on one hand the number of friends or even casual acquaintances I have who haven't dealt with some kind of legal trouble involving a car—anything from a minor scrape to a heavy collision. Personally, I’ve been in two. Nothing catastrophic, just some property damage... twice someone hit me, and once I hit someone. Every single time, it was just pure distraction.

And it’s pretty much impossible to accidentally swing your arm and hit someone, especially if it happens multiple times over several years.😉

shadowpanther3 said:Radimir Čačić is an honest politician—anyone standing against him is essentially standing against America.

Charles Martin2 said:

I was asking about the totals and all those screw-ups like his!!!

You see how Radimir Čačić can just get away with anything? I mean, seriously, it's been going on for years!
That guy is a reckless driver. Someone like that has no business holding public office.
That test is just for the idiots who keep making the same mistakes over and over!

Don't be too hard on him. He's basically a local legend.
Bottom line: if you're against Radimir Čačić, you're against the Democratic Party. Period.

swiftwalker43 said:Bravo, you really are a genius. Following that logic, I don't know why people keep bringing up Kalmeta or demanding he be held accountable; the man was involved in a train derailment near Miami where six people died, yet he wasn't driving the train, nor was he the one spilling hazardous liquids onto the tracks. Where does this double standard come from? If we try to force immediate or command responsibility onto Kalmeta, then we have to ask the same question regarding Čačić's direct responsibility for the deaths of those two human beings.
Regarding your other bolded point, bravo once again. It's a good thing you aren't drafting our traffic laws, because by your standards, if someone causes a fatal accident, they could probably just give a statement to the police saying they didn't intend for it to happen and that they were driving in good faith to get from point A to point B, and suddenly all responsibility vanishes and they're a free man.
Since it seems the media here is dominated by the idea that poor old Čačić is innocent—having "accidentally" caused a crash that killed two people—maybe we should just start a petition across the entire US asking the Canadian judiciary to drop all criminal proceedings
because, hey, he didn't mean for it to happen, and accidents can happen to anyone, right?
After that, all that's left is to hope that next time someone shows off behind the wheel, they don't cause a wreck involving a bus full of children—God forbid one of those kids belongs to one of these fierce defenders and apologists of Čačić. Then, perhaps, they'll finally stay consistent regarding Čačić's responsibility and guilt.
It's pathetic. We've forgotten the actual victims here, that married couple who no longer share a reality with Čačić—namely, life itself. And yet, we still sit here wondering where the world is headed.
Poor Čačić... boo hoo... you people are truly sad.

swiftwalker43 said:Bravo, you really are a genius. Following that logic, I don't know why people keep bringing up Kalmeta or demanding he be held accountable; the man was involved in a train derailment near Miami where six people died, yet he wasn't driving the train, nor was he the one spilling hazardous liquids onto the tracks. Where does this double standard come from? If we try to force immediate or command responsibility onto Kalmeta, then we have to ask the same question regarding Čačić's direct responsibility for the deaths of those two human beings.
Regarding your other bolded point, bravo once again. It's a good thing you aren't drafting our traffic laws, because by your standards, if someone causes a fatal accident, they could probably just give a statement to the police saying they didn't intend for it to happen and that they were driving in good faith to get from point A to point B, and suddenly all responsibility vanishes and they're a free man.
Since it seems the media here is dominated by the idea that poor old Čačić is innocent—having "accidentally" caused a crash that killed two people—maybe we should just start a petition across the entire US asking the Canadian judiciary to drop all criminal proceedings
because, hey, he didn't mean for it to happen, and accidents can happen to anyone, right?
After that, all that's left is to hope that next time someone shows off behind the wheel, they don't cause a wreck involving a bus full of children—God forbid one of those kids belongs to one of these fierce defenders and apologists of Čačić. Then, perhaps, they'll finally stay consistent regarding Čačić's responsibility and guilt.
It's pathetic. We've forgotten the actual victims here, that married couple who no longer share a reality with Čačić—namely, life itself. And yet, we still sit here wondering where the world is headed.
Poor Čačić... boo hoo... you people are truly sad.

granitemarlin77 said:Yesterday, Stanković hit him with the question: "What happens when the final verdict actually hands down a prison sentence?" And how does Čačić respond? Basically, he's like, "Hey, community service is an option too, right? Besides, I'm doing this for the greater good of society." 🙂 🙂 🙂

Austin Gonzalez13 said:Technically, it doesn't matter if it's a total loss or not... a mistake is still a mistake. For instance, someone rear-ended me at 60 mph once, and the damage was minimal because it hit me from behind... if they had hit my door, people could have died. But at the end of the day, the driver's error remains the same.

And honestly, being a careless driver isn't enough to disqualify him from being a public figure.

I’m really curious how many other politicians have cut someone off, sped, or crossed a double yellow line... I bet our entire Congress is filled with reckless drivers... NEW TALK!!! 😉

Charles Martin2 said:

If you're so curious, go investigate it yourself.
We're talking about what we actually know!

How fast was Radimir Čačić driving ahead of those cars
if the ones who got smashed from behind ended up dead!!??

Why would someone who beats his wife ever back down!!???
And he's supposedly some top-tier businessman despite all that!

Austin Gonzalez13 said:Look, there’s a massive distinction here that people seem to be missing—it's everything. When someone hits a woman, they are doing it with intent; it’s a conscious, deliberate choice. Car accidents? They aren't. They aren't "on purpose." That is the fundamental difference between a crime and an accident. If Radimir Čačić had steered his car into another vehicle on purpose, then we’d be talking about a completely different story altogether.

Jerry Cooper3 said:I find myself perpetually circling this same, exhausting question, though I suppose I should probably apologize for the sheer length of my ruminations before I dive straight into the fray. Is it more egregious to deal with those incompetent politicians who leave nothing but chaos and carnage on our highways, or is the true rot found in those who orchestrate calculated theft, sprawling corruption, and systematic lying—those who go so far as to facilitate murder and then turn around to shield the killers from justice? It’s a heavy thought, one that leaves a bitter taste, and frankly, I'm not sure if there's any way to win when both sides seem to be failing the public in such fundamentally different, yet equally devastating, ways.

The whole situation surrounding Radimir Čačić has effectively uncapped a floodgate of moralizing hypocrisy within a society that—led by our own political class—has been fundamentally at odds with any semblance of ethics for quite some time now. It seems perfectly normal in this country for a convicted war criminal to hold a seat in Congress. We live in a reality where a man with twenty different criminal charges against him—someone who actually fled the scene of a hit-and-run accident—nearly ascended to the Presidency of the Republic. It is commonplace for the head of state to actively participate in concealing a fugitive from the ICTY. We see men accused of sexual assault being appointed to the Supreme Court, only for us to discover that those very Supreme Court justices haven't even paid their taxes. Even the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court will stand there and declare that an American is fundamentally incapable of committing a war crime. Then, we have presidential candidates whose entire net worth remains a complete mystery, or individuals who openly boast about how a politician simply must lie to get ahead. Or, perhaps most absurdly, we witness a presidential candidate in the runoff stage shamelessly accepting the endorsement of a man whose military units were notorious for war crimes, even if he personally escaped conviction.

The most popular female politician in the country was just stripped of an apartment that served as the tragic backdrop for her own family's heartbreak. The Department of Justice maintains everything was done strictly by the book, but I find myself wondering—is legality even remotely synonymous with morality? Then you have the newly elected President, who seemingly leveraged his newfound position to be among the very first to collect on claims from that failed savings bank. Once again, they tell us it was perfectly legal, yet one cannot help but question if it was truly just. We see former Prime Ministers and Vice Presidents allegedly playing fast and loose with shares in ExxonMobil and Kraft Heinz; the Department of Justice insists no laws were broken, but where does that leave our sense of ethics? It is the same pattern with the former Secretary of Transportation, Božidar Kalmeta, who escapes any criminal liability for the lives lost in that horrific train wreck, but what of his moral responsibility for the sheer negligence permitted under his watch?

In this country, we find ourselves erecting monuments to a first President who went out and purchased a massive estate on Nazorov Avenue just twenty-four hours before the legislation banning such moves actually took effect. Technically, he played it by the book, but one has to wonder about the underlying morality of the situation. And really, was it even ethical for our very first President—if we consider his actions to be "legal," as Smiljko Sokol would put it—to remain silent regarding that $30,000 surplus sitting untouched in a Chase account?

A decade ago, this entire nation was practically shaking in its boots over that whole "we are all Mirko Norac" sentiment—you know, the rallying cry for a man who was essentially a fugitive from justice, a war criminal who personally took civilian lives, and a commander who actively incited murder. And, if you want the truly twisted icing on the cake, he even caused a massive car accident and managed to use his political connections to sweep the whole thing under the rug. So, I find myself wondering, does a country with that kind of blood on its hands really have any right to sit up and lecture us about moral responsibility regarding Radimir Čačić? Does it actually possess the standing to act all high and mighty about his decision to stay in politics following his own traffic incident? It feels somewhat hypocritical, doesn't it?

It is truly fascinating, if somewhat exhausting, to observe how much America struggles to stomach the fact that a man who was involved in a tragic traffic accident resulting in two fatalities can still maintain a presence in the political arena. It seems we find this deeply offensive, yet, in a display of staggering hypocrisy that I find myself struggling to reconcile, the public remains perfectly comfortable with those in power—those holding the reins of the government, no less—who make a conscious, calculated choice to lie, to steal, and to flagrantly violate the law. We tolerate individuals who deliberately cover up their tracks and go so far as to romanticize murderers, dressing them up in the lofty titles of party "visionaries," all while actively assisting convicted war criminals in evading the reach of justice.

And now comes the inevitable wave of self-appointed critics, moralists, and those tiresome little busybodies who want to purge him from the political arena entirely. It’s truly exhausting to watch. They are attempting to castigate a man who actually demonstrated exactly how a public figure—or frankly, any individual with a shred of respect for the rule of law—is supposed to conduct themselves when things go sideways. He didn't vanish into thin air; he stayed at the scene of the accident, he was completely transparent about what transpired, he expressed genuine regret, and he explicitly stated that he would abide by whatever the court decides. Look, the fact remains that he technically broke the law, but let’s be clear: at no point did he act as if he were somehow untouchable or attempt to play games with the legal system. He showed accountability, which is more than I can say for the endless parade of American politicians, Supreme Court justices, and other high-ranking public officials we see constantly dodging responsibility. There is a massive difference between making a mistake and believing you are above the law, and it seems the moralizing crowd is too blinded by their own indignation to tell them apart.

Unlike those other individuals, Radimir Čačić is prepared to accept legal accountability, though strictly for matters that have absolutely nothing to do with his official public duties. He hasn't committed any illegal acts while serving in his political capacity; rather, he has simply fallen victim to something that could—or perhaps has already—happened to any one of us. And because of that, he will be held responsible. There is even the very real possibility that he might face prison time. He may well carry that stigma for the remainder of his political career, but at that point, he will ultimately have to answer to the voters and to the judgment of his own party.

Ultimately, I believe Čačić should have his driver's license revoked for life, but we shouldn't be demanding he vanish from politics forever over an incident that, frankly, has very little to do with his political career. Should a schoolteacher who causes a fatal accident involving pedestrians be forced to abandon her vocation forever simply because she set a poor example? Or perhaps we should expect a doctor who delivers a misdiagnosis, amputates the wrong limb, or even accidentally causes a patient's death, to walk away from medicine entirely?

In a nation where politicians flee from criminal accountability, let alone moral responsibility, the real question we face is whom we choose to trust: the politician who willfully flouts the law while in office, or the individual who committed a tragic violation behind the wheel? The loss of two lives is an absolute tragedy, and that weight will sit upon the soul of whoever is responsible, but it is—perhaps even more heinous—to witness the ordering of killings, the cover-ups facilitated by political power, the sponsorship of crimes from a podium, or the pervasive rot of corruption, criminality, and the systematic deception of the public. But above all else, the most egregious sin is hypocrisy.

I am speaking of the hypocrisy of those who excused war crimes simply because they were committed by Americans, of those who preached patriotism only to use it as a smokescreen for plunder, and of those who speak so benevolently about the morality of others while masterfully concealing their own.

Radimir Čačić is not the central figure in this broader narrative. He will answer for his actions: before the law, before the voters, and before the public eye. The truly significant figures are those who refuse to shoulder any criminal or moral responsibility whatsoever. Just as it is difficult to imagine how a man carrying the weight of two lives can continue in politics, it is even harder to fathom how those who carry the fates of us all can continue to hold office—and continue to moralize.

swiftwalker43 said:Bravo, you really are a genius. Following that logic, I don't know why people keep bringing up Kalmeta or demanding he be held accountable; the man was involved in a train derailment near Miami where six people died, yet he wasn't driving the train, nor was he the one spilling hazardous liquids onto the tracks. Where does this double standard come from? If we try to force immediate or command responsibility onto Kalmeta, then we have to ask the same question regarding Čačić's direct responsibility for the deaths of those two human beings.
Regarding your other bolded point, bravo once again. It's a good thing you aren't drafting our traffic laws, because by your standards, if someone causes a fatal accident, they could probably just give a statement to the police saying they didn't intend for it to happen and that they were driving in good faith to get from point A to point B, and suddenly all responsibility vanishes and they're a free man.
Since it seems the media here is dominated by the idea that poor old Čačić is innocent—having "accidentally" caused a crash that killed two people—maybe we should just start a petition across the entire US asking the Canadian judiciary to drop all criminal proceedings
because, hey, he didn't mean for it to happen, and accidents can happen to anyone, right?
After that, all that's left is to hope that next time someone shows off behind the wheel, they don't cause a wreck involving a bus full of children—God forbid one of those kids belongs to one of these fierce defenders and apologists of Čačić. Then, perhaps, they'll finally stay consistent regarding Čačić's responsibility and guilt.
It's pathetic. We've forgotten the actual victims here, that married couple who no longer share a reality with Čačić—namely, life itself. And yet, we still sit here wondering where the world is headed.
Poor Čačić... boo hoo... you people are truly sad.

Austin Gonzalez13 said:Linking a traffic violation—which, unfortunately, carries the worst possible consequences for both a career and personal life—to political standing is, at the very least, a biased way to look at things.

I mean, let’s say Radimir Čačić was the CEO of some private bank; would he be expected to step down then, too? Or does this rule only apply when someone is a politician?

And honestly, you can't even compare this to a Cabinet Secretary resigning just because something went sideways within their specific sector...

shadowpanther3 said:Radimir Čačić is an honest politician—anyone standing against him is essentially standing against America.

Scott Cruz4 said:😂😂

Scott Cruz4 said:bravo 👍

It is a disgrace that a public figure doesn't have to answer for causing a traffic accident that claimed two lives. If it were anyone else, they would already be facing trial.

shadowpanther3 said:Just your typical Hercegovac laugh—the kind that honestly drags the whole country down with its mobster antics.

bluerider63 said:What a load of crap, there's a court system in place and justice will eventually catch up.