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Should R. Čačić just step down from politics already?

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Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#81 ·
darkfox5 said:Ha, ha... "the party leadership said it"... as if the leadership isn't just Čačić himself. You can't seriously believe anyone is allowed to talk back to him, right?

But that’s exactly my point—that’s why I keep saying he runs the whole party like it’s his own private corporation...
casualangler9 casualangler9 Newcomer
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#82 ·
The first part of the show was just a confused mess; once he started talking about the budget, I lost all empathy for him. He knows he’s playing games—you can see it in his expression in those final shots when everything was already decided. If you can contradict what he said every five minutes, it’s basically just a lesson in PR spin.
And regarding how many friends he claims to have who were responsible for fatal car accidents—I have plenty of friends, and not one of them has ever committed such a crime. In my experience growing up, I've known quite a few people 🙂

Was it a mere coincidence that killed those people, or was it his "arrogance and culture of violent behavior"?
Take the Australian Heath Ledger. He was an addict who accidentally took too much one night; did he really die just by pure accident due to a simple addiction? He didn't lead a dark life, but the media covered up everything about his family life, his little kid, and his wife. And if you look at his last role in Batman, the man plays the darkest character I've ever seen... it's more than that, it feels like he's promoting dark behavior through the role.

When you talk about "arrogance and violent behavior," it feels like you're describing nothing but Democratic Party members on this forum throughout history. Some might say it's cosmic karma finally catching up to a powerful negative influence in this country.
It's being put on display so people can finally realize that people like this kill the human spirit,
whether through death or sickness. It's tragic.

May God remove him from public life so America can live! ☕
darkfox5 darkfox5 Member
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#83 ·
bluerider63 said:I mean, sure, it'll probably haunt him forever, no doubt about that, but you still haven't really hit on why he'd be any less capable of actually doing his job than he was before this mess went down...

It isn't about capability—it's about character, plain and simple. It's pure arrogance. He's so incredibly full of himself that he actually believes his actions won't have a single dent in his party's reputation!
Scott Cruz4 Scott Cruz4 Active Member
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#84 ·
bluerider63 said:What a load of crap, there's a court system in place and justice will eventually catch up.

Alright, fine—but how many years behind bars does the law actually call for when someone "unintentionally" causes a traffic accident that ends in a fatality?
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#85 ·
Harold Wright6 said:Since when is probation the standard punishment for causing the deaths of two people? And civil damages have nothing to do with criminal prosecution.

You're just parroting whatever headlines were running in the papers back then...

Maybe those lawyers were just feeding the press certain narratives—purely self-serving moves to clear a path for Čačić's defense...

Though, I doubt politics will even play a role here, seeing as the trial is being held overseas...

I'm honestly just wondering how long it’ll take before this actually hits a courtroom...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#86 ·
Scott Cruz4 said:Alright, fine—but how many years behind bars does the law actually call for when someone "unintentionally" causes a traffic accident that ends in a fatality?

Usually somewhere between one and five years here in the States...

But he’s clearly not facing any real consequences over here...
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#87 ·
darkfox5 said:It isn't about capability—it's about character, plain and simple. It's pure arrogance. He's so incredibly full of himself that he actually believes his actions won't have a single dent in his party's reputation!

People will decide how much this hits his party when they hit the polls. Honestly, you shouldn't even be bothered by it, since a weakened Democratic Party works out just fine for you anyway. 😁
darkfox5 darkfox5 Member
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#88 ·
Scott Cruz4 said:Alright, fine—but how many years behind bars does the law actually call for when someone "unintentionally" causes a traffic accident that ends in a fatality?

I think I read somewhere that it's between 2 to 8 years... over in Canada.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#89 ·
casualangler9 said:The first part of the show was just a confused mess; once he started talking about the budget, I lost all empathy for him. He knows he’s playing games—you can see it in his expression in those final shots when everything was already decided. If you can contradict what he said every five minutes, it’s basically just a lesson in PR spin.
And regarding how many friends he claims to have who were responsible for fatal car accidents—I have plenty of friends, and not one of them has ever committed such a crime. In my experience growing up, I've known quite a few people 🙂

Was it a mere coincidence that killed those people, or was it his "arrogance and culture of violent behavior"?
Take the Australian Heath Ledger. He was an addict who accidentally took too much one night; did he really die just by pure accident due to a simple addiction? He didn't lead a dark life, but the media covered up everything about his family life, his little kid, and his wife. And if you look at his last role in Batman, the man plays the darkest character I've ever seen... it's more than that, it feels like he's promoting dark behavior through the role.

When you talk about "arrogance and violent behavior," it feels like you're describing nothing but Democratic Party members on this forum throughout history. Some might say it's cosmic karma finally catching up to a powerful negative influence in this country.
It's being put on display so people can finally realize that people like this kill the human spirit,
whether through death or sickness. It's tragic.

May God remove him from public life so America can live! ☕

What a load of absolute nonsense...

From bringing up the late Ledger to dragging in R. Čačić... and now suddenly America can't live because of Čačić... give me a break. It's laughable...
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#90 ·
Harold Wright6 said:Honestly, it might be better if he just stays within the Democratic Party for now, rather than letting everyone see what kind of organization they actually run. ☕ At least that way, we don't find out the full extent of things until there's a trial, assuming he’s actually guilty. Their tiny voter base doesn't really care anyway, as long as they keep banging on about the war and the diaspora, Ferenčar. Čačić and his crew can basically do whatever they want...


Now out of nowhere, he brings up some guy named Hecegovac who was just getting a routine inspection on his car!!


Harold Wright6 said:Since when is probation the standard punishment for causing the deaths of two people? And civil damages have nothing to do with criminal prosecution.


That isn't in European law, and it's not in ours either, but it can be fixed!
darkfox5 darkfox5 Member
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#91 ·
bluerider63 said:People will decide how much this hits his party when they hit the polls. Honestly, you shouldn't even be bothered by it, since a weakened Democratic Party works out just fine for you anyway. 😁

Oh, obviously people will make their choice at the ballot box... but that's not the point here. We aren't just talking politics; we're analyzing the actual character of a man who kills people through sheer negligence and then acts like absolutely nothing happened!
Scott Cruz4 Scott Cruz4 Active Member
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#92 ·
darkfox5 said:I think I read somewhere that it's between 2 to 8 years... over in Canada.

So we're talking at least two years then? Hmm... honestly, I think he’ll walk away from this one just fine.👎
granitemarlin77 granitemarlin77 Active Member
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#93 ·
bluerider63 said:So what’s your move then? You gonna go out and end it all? Or just crawl away and look for some other shady gig somewhere else?

Look, I already said what I’d do.
Personally, I’d have vanished from the American political scene entirely—and I definitely wouldn't be hitting up parties or fancy lunches while the other victim was still fighting for their life. But hey, that's just me. At the end of the day, we're really just talking about Čačić.☕
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#94 ·
darkfox5 said:Oh, obviously people will make their choice at the ballot box... but that's not the point here. We aren't just talking politics; we're analyzing the actual character of a man who kills people through sheer negligence and then acts like absolutely nothing happened!

I might not be paying as much attention as you are, but I honestly can't say he's acting like nothing even happened.
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#95 ·
granitemarlin77 said:Look, I already said what I’d do.
Personally, I’d have vanished from the American political scene entirely—and I definitely wouldn't be hitting up parties or fancy lunches while the other victim was still fighting for their life. But hey, that's just me. At the end of the day, we're really just talking about Čačić.☕

Maybe I'm just being an idiot, but you're overestimating how much that whole "public life" thing matters. Honestly, I don't see why being in the spotlight would somehow make someone more honorable or moral than any regular guy living a normal life out in the suburbs.
Scott Cruz4 Scott Cruz4 Active Member
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#96 ·
bluerider63 said:I might not be paying as much attention as you are, but I honestly can't say he's acting like nothing even happened.

Look, if someone was genuinely shaken up by losing two people, they wouldn't be jumping on TV so readily—not like this, where he’s acting like it’s just another Tuesday.
Dennis Baker34 Dennis Baker34 Active Member
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#97 ·
granitemarlin77 said:Look, I already said what I’d do.
Personally, I’d have vanished from the American political scene entirely—and I definitely wouldn't be hitting up parties or fancy lunches while the other victim was still fighting for their life. But hey, that's just me. At the end of the day, we're really just talking about Čačić.☕

Now Čačić is basically begging us to show some empathy, acting like anyone can make a mistake... but let's be real—he isn't looking for sympathy. He's looking for a green light to go right back to business as usual, as if absolutely nothing happened.
Yeah, fat chance of that happening!

...blood puppets with zero ideas, killer on the road, bad night, fleeing the city while they come, those sons of bitches...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#98 ·
Scott Cruz4 said:Look, if someone was genuinely shaken up by losing two people, they wouldn't be jumping on TV so readily—not like this, where he’s acting like it’s just another Tuesday.

Let’s just be real here—no matter what he does, he’s going to look like the bad guy anyway...

If he stays quiet, it looks like he's hiding from the public or trying to dodge accountability for his actions—which, again, would make him seem cold and irresponsible or whatever...

It’s the same old story whether he shows up on TV or stays out of the spotlight...
darkfox5 darkfox5 Member
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#99 ·
bluerider63 said:I might not be paying as much attention as you are, but I honestly can't say he's acting like nothing even happened.

If he weren't so incredibly full of himself—arrogant, callous, the whole nine yards—he would have actually stepped back from the public eye for a while...☕
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#100 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

Unlike Lin Cervar!

Look, unlike Linek—who basically just goes along for the ride—Čaččić actually stepped up, took ownership of his actions, and acted like he was actually the one steering the ship...

Which is a far cry from Cervar, where it feels like someone else is always at the wheel...

To put it bluntly...

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