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Should R. Čačić just step down from politics already?

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Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#101 ·
It’s got those Chappaquiddick vibes written all over it—reminds me of that whole political scandal...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#102 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Look, unlike Linek—who basically just goes along for the ride—Čaččić actually stepped up, took ownership of his actions, and acted like he was actually the one steering the ship...

Which is a far cry from Cervar, where it feels like someone else is always at the wheel...

To put it bluntly...



And Cervar even admitted he’s just along for the ride...

😍

Show me some actual proof for those lies of yours!!!
Walter Lee4 Walter Lee4 Newcomer
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#103 ·
It was his own call...

Just as Kobešćak didn't walk away from sports after his accident, nor did Matthew Broderick leave acting behind....

Why should we pretend to know what it feels like to be in someone else's shoes when things get this heavy?
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#104 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

And Cervar even admitted he’s just along for the ride...

😍

Show me some actual proof for those lies of yours!!!

Look, if you're so obsessed with Cervar, go ahead and start a whole new thread about him—I won't stop you—or maybe just wander over to the Sports subforum instead...

I have zero intention of trolling here...

The topic of this discussion is Čačić. If you can't manage to read a simple thread title, maybe find someone else to do it for you...
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#105 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Look, if you're so obsessed with Cervar, go ahead and start a whole new thread about him—I won't stop you—or maybe just wander over to the Sports subforum instead...

I have zero intention of trolling here...

The topic of this discussion is Čačić. If you can't manage to read a simple thread title, maybe find someone else to do it for you...


I get it, but I can still draw parallels regarding responsibility!
Especially if your take on things is the same!

Particularly when you try to drop evidence right after celebrating those handball wins!
😍
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#106 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

I get it, but I can still draw parallels regarding responsibility!
Especially if your take on things is the same!

Particularly when you try to drop evidence right after celebrating those handball wins!
😍

Which, by the way, you actually did—you’ve got that footage right there showing that Cervar isn't even standing on the podium when the medals are handed out, let alone wearing one around her neck...☕

And honestly, all this stuff about Gobac Červar putting the roster together or deciding who makes the cut—like what Metličić does—is just creating alibis for their placement. It has absolutely nothing to do with Čačić...
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#107 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Which, by the way, you actually did—you’ve got that footage right there showing that Cervar isn't even standing on the podium when the medals are handed out, let alone wearing one around her neck...☕

And honestly, all this stuff about Gobac Červar putting the roster together or deciding who makes the cut—like what Metličić does—is just creating alibis for their placement. It has absolutely nothing to do with Čačić...


Show me the receipts!!!

I was mainly talking about the European Union classifications
and the training for expert witnesses in traffic accidents!!
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#108 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

Show me the receipts!!!

I was mainly talking about the European Union classifications
and the training for expert witnesses in traffic accidents!!

Look, if you can't actually read or comprehend the thread title, maybe find someone else to do that heavy lifting for you...
swiftwalker43 swiftwalker43 Member
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#109 ·
Austin Gonzalez13 said:Don't go equating a tragic accident with a deliberate crime—like domestic violence.
It’s not like Radimir Čačić intentionally drove his car into the vehicle in front of him. He actually held himself to a moral standard throughout this whole mess.
Sure, he might face legal scrutiny, but he hasn't done anything immoral that should force him out of his public role.

Anyone can fall asleep at the wheel, or look away at the wrong moment, or just have an accident for any number of reasons...

Give it a rest already. Stop being so angry; accidents happen to everyone. It’s true, they happen, but some people seem to have them more often than others. With Čačić's constant, frantic driving—having three totaled cars and god knows how many dozens of traffic tickets—it was really just a matter of time before this happened. Should we wait until he causes a wreck involving a bus full of kids? To all those people defending Čačić: would you still be making excuses for him and dodging his legal and political accountability if your own child was on that bus, and by some miracle, escaped without serious injury—or worse, suffered devastating consequences?
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#110 ·
swiftwalker43 said:Give it a rest already. Stop being so angry; accidents happen to everyone. It’s true, they happen, but some people seem to have them more often than others. With Čačić's constant, frantic driving—having three totaled cars and god knows how many dozens of traffic tickets—it was really just a matter of time before this happened. Should we wait until he causes a wreck involving a bus full of kids? To all those people defending Čačić: would you still be making excuses for him and dodging his legal and political accountability if your own child was on that bus, and by some miracle, escaped without serious injury—or worse, suffered devastating consequences?

Honestly, it’s exactly because of posts like this that we even have a court system...

It is incredibly difficult to remain objective when emotions are running high, which is precisely why the courts exist—to follow the law while maintaining enough distance to reach a fair verdict...

And yeah, sure, anyone could have been in an accident... it falls under the category of "unforeseen circumstances" rather than intentional harm...

But that doesn't mean we're defending Čačić, nor does it mean the judge will view "accidents happen" as a valid legal defense when handing down a sentence...
granitemarlin77 granitemarlin77 Active Member
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#111 ·
bluerider63 said:Maybe I'm just being an idiot, but you're overestimating how much that whole "public life" thing matters. Honestly, I don't see why being in the spotlight would somehow make someone more honorable or moral than any regular guy living a normal life out in the suburbs.


I'm not even gonna touch that.

bluerider63 said:Maybe I'm just being an idiot, but you're overestimating how much that whole "public life" thing matters. Honestly, I don't see why being in the spotlight would somehow make someone more honorable or moral than any regular guy living a normal life out in the suburbs.

He took two lives with his car—that’s not just some everyday thing. Killing two people? That isn't "normal" to me. To my way of thinking, Čačić is no different than that tycoon’s kid from the suburbs—it’s only a matter of time before someone gets killed, and well, he finally did it. Maybe you and Čačić think this is all just business as usual, but it sure as hell isn't to me.☕
briskbison55 briskbison55 Active Member
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#112 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Honestly, it’s exactly because of posts like this that we even have a court system...

It is incredibly difficult to remain objective when emotions are running high, which is precisely why the courts exist—to follow the law while maintaining enough distance to reach a fair verdict...

And yeah, sure, anyone could have been in an accident... it falls under the category of "unforeseen circumstances" rather than intentional harm...

But that doesn't mean we're defending Čačić, nor does it mean the judge will view "accidents happen" as a valid legal defense when handing down a sentence...

Exactly. It’s like if someone sees fog that wasn't there earlier and ends up speeding on a slick road. There was no intent to cause harm, sure, but honestly, that isn't really the point or even worth debating. It happened. Now we just wait and see if having enough money can actually keep him out of prison.
swiftwalker43 swiftwalker43 Member
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#113 ·
bluerider63 said:So what’s your move then? You gonna go out and end it all? Or just crawl away and look for some other shady gig somewhere else?

You’d probably act just like him—pretend nothing ever happened, keep smiling, show up in public, go out to dinner... acting like a normal person. Unlike Čačić, you’d likely just vanish from the spotlight entirely. It would be the logical move, I suppose. Retreating into isolation or staying close to family while trying to carry the weight of a guilty conscience. Does anyone else remember that scoundrel A. Katušić? He killed five people with his driving back in Canada near a small town. Four died in his Audi 8, and one was hit head-on from the opposite direction. He walked away with minor injuries while the others were dead where they sat. He spent a few days lying in a hospital in Mostar, then he just fled the hospital, crossed the border illegally from Canada into America, and a few days later, he pops up in a different car, walking around like he didn't just kill five people, including three police officers. And yet, here he is, still strolling around carefree to this very day.
briskbison55 briskbison55 Active Member
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#114 ·
granitemarlin77 said:I'm not even gonna touch that.

He took two lives with his car—that’s not just some everyday thing. Killing two people? That isn't "normal" to me. To my way of thinking, Čačić is no different than that tycoon’s kid from the suburbs—it’s only a matter of time before someone gets killed, and well, he finally did it. Maybe you and Čačić think this is all just business as usual, but it sure as hell isn't to me.☕

Man, you're being pretty harsh. If you had actually bothered to read his press release—which he held onto until after one of the participants passed away—he explained it all: there was thick fog, and the car ahead wasn't properly lit.

If you'd just looked at the facts, you'd see Čačić isn't even at fault. Honestly, if anything, he might have actually done someone a favor by preventing them from slamming into those reckless drivers and getting killed themselves.
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#115 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Look, if you can't actually read or comprehend the thread title, maybe find someone else to do that heavy lifting for you...


That last sentence actually fits the topic perfectly!!!
And your promise too!


Adam Collins4 said:Honestly, it’s exactly because of posts like this that we even have a court system...

It is incredibly difficult to remain objective when emotions are running high, which is precisely why the courts exist—to follow the law while maintaining enough distance to reach a fair verdict...

And yeah, sure, anyone could have been in an accident... it falls under the category of "unforeseen circumstances" rather than intentional harm...

But that doesn't mean we're defending Čačić, nor does it mean the judge will view "accidents happen" as a valid legal defense when handing down a sentence...


Hey, you're out here speculating and giving your opinion too.
Why shouldn't everyone else on this board be allowed to do the same?
This is the politics section—pure political chatter, not even a legal forum!!
If you want to debate court rulings, go hit the Law sub!

It wasn't an accident, especially knowing what kind of driver he is!!!
Just like how nobody "accidentally" becomes a violent person in society...
Nobody "accidentally" becomes a reckless driver either!!
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#116 ·
briskbison55 said:Exactly. It’s like if someone sees fog that wasn't there earlier and ends up speeding on a slick road. There was no intent to cause harm, sure, but honestly, that isn't really the point or even worth debating. It happened. Now we just wait and see if having enough money can actually keep him out of prison.

It’s true that nobody knows exactly what led up to the crash... and right now, everything is still just pure speculation...

But courts don't make rulings based on guesswork—they rely on forensic evidence and expert testimony...

So, if you actually have some inside info on this, please, do us all a favor and share it...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#117 ·
Charles Martin2 said:

That last sentence actually fits the topic perfectly!!!
And your promise too!



Hey, you're out here speculating and giving your opinion too.
Why shouldn't everyone else on this board be allowed to do the same?
This is the politics section—pure political chatter, not even a legal forum!!
If you want to debate court rulings, go hit the Law sub!

It wasn't an accident, especially knowing what kind of driver he is!!!
Just like how nobody "accidentally" becomes a violent person in society...
Nobody "accidentally" becomes a reckless driver either!!

Comparing domestic violence or social aggression to "violence" on the road is a stretch...

Because most people who act out in society will always use the dumbest excuse possible: "I was provoked"...

And no, I'm not speculating about the crash itself—I'm just pointing out that we need to wait for the court's verdict...
briskbison55 briskbison55 Active Member
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#118 ·
Adam Collins4 said:It’s true that nobody knows exactly what led up to the crash... and right now, everything is still just pure speculation...

But courts don't make rulings based on guesswork—they rely on forensic evidence and expert testimony...

So, if you actually have some inside info on this, please, do us all a favor and share it...

Yeah, well, you could probably just go online yourself and find out exactly where the fog was rolling in that day, if the police spokesperson's statement wasn't enough for you. And then there's that one "expert" of ours claiming that the damage to the car couldn't possibly have been caused by the speed Čačić mentioned.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#119 ·
People are back at it again, trying to draw lines between little Žužić and Čačić...

The fallout ends up looking pretty much the same, sure—but the circumstances under which this all went down are night and day, and honestly, comparing them just does Žužić dirty...
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#120 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Honestly, it’s exactly because of posts like this that we even have a court system...

It is incredibly difficult to remain objective when emotions are running high, which is precisely why the courts exist—to follow the law while maintaining enough distance to reach a fair verdict...

And yeah, sure, anyone could have been in an accident... it falls under the category of "unforeseen circumstances" rather than intentional harm...

But that doesn't mean we're defending Čačić, nor does it mean the judge will view "accidents happen" as a valid legal defense when handing down a sentence...


Obviously, courts didn't exist before this forum
and since they started, you aren't even allowed to post on here
about anything until the court hands down an official ruling
since we're all basically parties to the case or legal reps ourselves!!

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