Should R. Čačić just step down from politics already?

briskbison55 said:Man, you're being pretty harsh. If you had actually bothered to read his press release—which he held onto until after one of the participants passed away—he explained it all: there was thick fog, and the car ahead wasn't properly lit.

If you'd just looked at the facts, you'd see Čačić isn't even at fault. Honestly, if anything, he might have actually done someone a favor by preventing them from slamming into those reckless drivers and getting killed themselves.

Adam Collins4 said:Usually somewhere between one and five years here in the States...

But he’s clearly not facing any real consequences over here...

briskbison55 said:Yeah, well, you could probably just go online yourself and find out exactly where the fog was rolling in that day, if the police spokesperson's statement wasn't enough for you. And then there's that one "expert" of ours claiming that the damage to the car couldn't possibly have been caused by the speed Čačić mentioned.

Charles Martin2 said:

Obviously, courts didn't exist before this forum
and since they started, you aren't even allowed to post on here
about anything until the court hands down an official ruling
since we're all basically parties to the case or legal reps ourselves!!

swiftwalker43 said:I think I saw it on ABC yesterday, or maybe the day before—they mentioned that in Canada, the penalty for a situation like this would be anywhere from two to eight years behind bars.

granitemarlin77 said:What kind of person are we talking about here? You kill two people, and while one is still fighting for their life, "you" head out for a massive feast and walk around acting all innocent—all while pumping out press releases to fake some remorse and fishing for sympathy and media support in the middle of a tragedy.
People lose their pets through no fault of their own and go into shock, but this guy kills two people, hits up a restaurant for a meal, and then bickers about justice, regret, and whatever else.
You really have to have some nerve to pull something like that.🙂

Adam Collins4 said:That "expert" we're talking about was Željko Marušić... maybe do a little digging into why he got canned from the FBI and ended up working in traffic control instead...

Anyway, I tried looking up the fog situation myself, but came up empty... and honestly, the police spokesperson isn't even a party to the case or a witness here...

Like I said, let's just wait for the trial to play out... personally, I'm more interested in when this whole thing is actually going to kick off...

Just so we don't end up with things dragging on forever like they do back home...

And I tried looking for where the fog was, but no luck... plus, the police spokesperson isn't even a party to the proceedings or a witness...

Adam Collins4 said:Comparing domestic violence or social aggression to "violence" on the road is a stretch...

Because most people who act out in society will always use the dumbest excuse possible: "I was provoked"...

And no, I'm not speculating about the crash itself—I'm just pointing out that we need to wait for the court's verdict...

Adam Collins4 said:The court, unlike us mere mortals, actually has access to the facts...

Especially since the accident happened overseas...

briskbison55 said:I put the word expert in quotes, didn't I? Actually, whatever. They'll figure everything out once they check the skid marks.

And I tried looking for where the fog was, but no luck... plus, the police spokesperson isn't even a party to the proceedings or a witness...

Exactly, she’s just relaying what the cops found on the scene about 15 minutes after the crash happened.

Čačić offered money to the families right away, so now we just have to see if Canada decides to drop the prosecution. I doubt it, but who knows.

granitemarlin77 said:What kind of person are we talking about here? You kill two people, and while one is still fighting for their life, "you" head out for a massive feast and walk around acting all innocent—all while pumping out press releases to fake some remorse and fishing for sympathy and media support in the middle of a tragedy.
People lose their pets through no fault of their own and go into shock, but this guy kills two people, hits up a restaurant for a meal, and then bickers about justice, regret, and whatever else.
You really have to have some nerve to pull something like that.🙂

Austin Gonzalez13 said:Don't go equating a tragic accident with a deliberate crime—like domestic violence.
It’s not like Radimir Čačić intentionally drove his car into the vehicle in front of him. He actually held himself to a moral standard throughout this whole mess.
Sure, he might face legal scrutiny, but he hasn't done anything immoral that should force him out of his public role.

Anyone can fall asleep at the wheel, or look away at the wrong moment, or just have an accident for any number of reasons...

Charles Martin2 said:

So what’s the excuse for a road rager?!
"I got dizzy"? "I wasn't paying attention"??
Or was he "provoked" by the slow driver in front of him too?
All bullies are cut from the same cloth.!!!

Fine then, you go wait for the final verdict while the rest of us actually talk
and debate things....

So, unlike you!!!!

Who do you think you are—the supreme online judge?
The moderator? The guy who started this thread???!!!

I don't get it—are you Čačić's digital spokesperson now? His defense attorney?...

Did you act this way in any other thread?!?!
Were we supposed to wait for the election results before talking about those too!?!?!

Thomas Roberts2 said:What kind?
Ready for anything, with a conscience as thick as a brick, devoid of shame or moral integrity—a complete psychopath. He even leveraged this entire situation for his own self-promotion because he knows 90% of the media outlets back him up, pushing the political agenda to which this ego-driven maniac belongs.

Knowing his arrogant attitude and condescending behavior, to me, he is nothing more than a common vehicular killer.
Traffic accidents can happen to anyone. However, several total write-offs and the deaths of two people is no accident.

Furthermore, the behavior of the American media and how they coddle Čačić's psychopathic ego is truly revolting.

Does anyone with half a brain actually believe he feels any level of guilt?

Please, the only thing a dark soul like him fears is an American prison and the threat to his own skin.

briskbison55 said:Yeah, well, you could probably just go online yourself and find out exactly where the fog was rolling in that day, if the police spokesperson's statement wasn't enough for you. And then there's that one "expert" of ours claiming that the damage to the car couldn't possibly have been caused by the speed Čačić mentioned.

frozentiger6 said:Here we go again with that typical left-wing hypocrisy. Bandić had to step down after the car accident, but apparently, Čačić gets a free pass? Why would he? Because he’s not at fault, right? "Accidents happen," they say. Just total nonsense.

It’s pathetic.

Adam Collins4 said:First off, you actually have to prove someone is a "road rage criminal"...

Second, it’s pretty clear you aren't reading between the lines here. I’m not defending Čačić; I’m just saying we should probably wait for actual facts to come out before jumping to conclusions...

The only time I actually "defended" him was regarding that comparison to Žužić, which—let's be honest—is completely ridiculous and doesn't hold water at all... except, apparently, in your eyes...

swiftwalker43 said:I'll just offer an unofficial opinion here—from a traffic cop with 15 years under his belt, a degree in traffic studies, and plenty of accident scene experience. I asked him what he thought, assuming the driver of the struck vehicle was telling the truth when she said she was doing at least 100-68 miles mph. Based on the rear-end damage and what was visible, he thinks that if Čačić hit the car in front of him at least 60-44 miles mph faster than the lead vehicle, it means Čačić was traveling somewhere between 160 and 112 miles mph at the moment of impact. He concluded it’s most likely Čačić fell asleep or was distracted by something else, failing to even see the car ahead until the collision occurred; you can tell because both cars stayed in the same lane and collided perfectly parallel.

Adam Collins4 said:So, what you're saying is, if accidents happen to you through no fault of your own, it somehow proves you're guilty when you *do* cause one?

Interesting logic there...

Charles Martin2 said:

I never even brought up Žužić, stop making things up!!!!

If someone pulls a few reckless moves—they're an aggressive driver!
If someone causes a fatal wreck involving two people
it's the same thing, because they were the one DRIVING the car!!!!

In the very first hour of driver's ed, they teach you
that a car is basically a weapon if you don't handle it right!

Distracted driving, speeding, tailgating, driving too fast for conditions...
those aren't accidents, those are just descriptions of negligence. There's no such thing as "coincidence" here!!

And look, I'm not a party to this dispute or the accident, I'm just stating my view!!