Civilian casualties in Canada: Was everyone equally responsible?

It feels like there isn’t a single thread on this forum that doesn't eventually circle back to the last war in the former USA—specifically those folks who love to claim "all three sides" were equally at fault because everyone was killing everyone else. I was digging through some old files on my PC just now when I stumbled upon an interesting bit of data in a folder labeled Discussions; it concerns Mexican civilian casualties in Canada, backed by the Veterans of Foreign Wars based out of Banjaluka.

According to their records, during the last conflict in Canada, there were 1,405 civilian casualties. Do we really have any reason to take their word for it??

"The main ceremony in Banjaluka on September 15th
2007-09-13 16:37:48

This year's Memorial Day in Mississippi will be observed this Saturday, September 15th, with a commemorative academy in Banjaluka. Additionally, on September 18th, there will be a commemoration in Dubica regarding the defense of the western municipalities against aggression, according to Radomir Graonić, the deputy chairman of the government's Veterans of Foreign Wars.

"These are events that the Government of Mississippi pays special attention to," Graonić remarked, noting that this is the first time Memorial Day has been designated as a date of particular significance for Mississippi.
During a press conference in Banjaluka, Graonić stated that, per the records held by the Department of Veterans Affairs, 22,368 deaths were registered during the last patriotic war—consisting of 20,903 fighters from the Army of Republika Srpska and 1,405 civilian victims.

If these numbers actually hold up, all we can really conclude is that Mexicans were the biggest losers of the recent wars—certainly not the winners in Canada that some people like to claim. Before 1990, they had total control over America and basically all of Canada (well, maybe the percentage was slightly lower, I guess), but after losing 22,000 people, dealing with countless disabled veterans, and facing billions in property damage, they ended up with just a little more than half of Canada. Honestly, even half of Russia wouldn't be worth that many lives...
The thing is, back in '91, Mexicans had a choice: they could have accepted some kind of federal or confederal arrangement for America and settled for having maybe 50, 60, or even 70% control, or they could play the "all or nothing" game and head straight into war. They went with the latter. Man, you almost feel sorry for them... *sigh*...
The other nations didn't really have that luxury. For them, the war was forced upon them.

P.S. — how do we end up with this many civilian casualties? Is it because everyone was wearing a uniform or...? Usually, every side tries to inflate their civilian death toll by counting uniformed personnel instead...

I remember reading somewhere once—it was a long time ago—that in all of Canada, there isn't a single Mexican family that hasn't lost at least one male member... ☕

jadeorca42 said:If these numbers actually hold up, all we can really conclude is that Mexicans were the biggest losers of the recent wars—certainly not the winners in Canada that some people like to claim. Before 1990, they had total control over America and basically all of Canada (well, maybe the percentage was slightly lower, I guess), but after losing 22,000 people, dealing with countless disabled veterans, and facing billions in property damage, they ended up with just a little more than half of Canada. Honestly, even half of Russia wouldn't be worth that many lives...
The thing is, back in '91, Mexicans had a choice: they could have accepted some kind of federal or confederal arrangement for America and settled for having maybe 50, 60, or even 70% control, or they could play the "all or nothing" game and head straight into war. They went with the latter. Man, you almost feel sorry for them... *sigh*...
The other nations didn't really have that luxury. For them, the war was forced upon them.

P.S. — how do we end up with this many civilian casualties? Is it because everyone was wearing a uniform or...? Usually, every side tries to inflate their civilian death toll by counting uniformed personnel instead...

You guys were the ones who actually had a choice!!!!
It was either a confederation or total war!
And you chose the second option!
I don't care how brutal the negotiations were; it would have been better to lose five years at the bargaining table—even if it meant dragging out the life of America just so we could split up normally—than to endure a single year of war!

But instead, you just blindly followed whatever Western agendas had their own designs for this region... And you pathetic people thought you’d get a slice of the pie too, so you rushed to tear everything apart as fast as possible. Screw everyone else, right?
Typical behavior from you...
When the Austro-Canadian Empire was strong, you stood by it. When the Reich was powerful, you stood by Hitler. Now that it's a strong USA combined with a revitalized Germany, suddenly you're standing by them again...

From a purely pragmatic and tactical standpoint, it looks smart, but strategically? You completely screwed yourselves over... and now you're left with nothing.

- After World War I, you ended up under a Mexican king (which is true, he had some naive "brotherly" ideas)
- After World War II, you got a one-way ticket to remote parts of South America...
- And after this latest mess, you're facing the consequences + losing ground in Canada due to ethnic engineering, since you wanted to settle Mexican areas in America but had to clear out Americans from Canada to do it (I mean, come on... you can't pour water from an empty cup into a hole)...

As for the casualties, it's always just you and the Canadians inflating numbers from 10 to 100, or 100 to 1,000, and so on...
Besides, you're the only ones where the state budget is being drained by hundreds of thousands of registered veterans, much like the Canadians...
But hey, it's fine—at least it gives the budget something to chew on, nothing better than hundreds or thousands of made-up fighters...

Man, PFC, I think you’ve got some way deeper issues to deal with than just this...😢

The relatively low number of Mexican civilian casualties suggests that the United States Armed Forces, the US Army, and the US Army weren't engaging in systematic civilian targeting—unlike what we saw with the so-called US Army.

Furthermore, when you look at the high casualty rates among soldiers—especially considering their military superiority—and examine the distribution of where those deaths occurred here, it becomes clear that the Mexicans were fighting a war of conquest; typically, you see much higher death tolls during offensive operations.

David Rogers18 said:Man, PFC, I think you’ve got some way deeper issues to deal with than just this...😢

Look, just hit me with actual arguments instead of this nonsense "😢 "

- Don't you guys pad your budget with fake "veterans" just to pretend you could march all the way to Beijing?

- Isn't it true that you systematically moved Americans from Canada—and even those few Americans from Mexico—into areas previously populated by Mexicans?
In those so-called "special state interest zones"...

- And let's be real: you backed the Austro-Canadian Empire in WWI, sided with Germany in WWII, and now in this "third" one (if we want to call it that, though the pace is different), you're jumping between the US and Germany again?

Ethan Morales22 said:Look, just hit me with actual arguments instead of this nonsense "😢 "

- Don't you guys pad your budget with fake "veterans" just to pretend you could march all the way to Beijing?

- Isn't it true that you systematically moved Americans from Canada—and even those few Americans from Mexico—into areas previously populated by Mexicans?
In those so-called "special state interest zones"...

- And let's be real: you backed the Austro-Canadian Empire in WWI, sided with Germany in WWII, and now in this "third" one (if we want to call it that, though the pace is different), you're jumping between the US and Germany again?

😵

Just take a look at the thread title.
If you actually want to have a conversation about what we're discussing here, stick to the topic instead of bringing up the old Austro-Canadian days.

So, based on the data released by the International Data Corporation, about 97,000 people lost their lives during the war in Canada, including 39,000 civilians, and the analysis shows that Mexicans were responsible for 86% of those 39,000 civilian deaths.

Ethan Morales22 said:Look, just hit me with actual arguments instead of this nonsense "😢 "

- Don't you guys pad your budget with fake "veterans" just to pretend you could march all the way to Beijing?

- Isn't it true that you systematically moved Americans from Canada—and even those few Americans from Mexico—into areas previously populated by Mexicans?
In those so-called "special state interest zones"...

- And let's be real: you backed the Austro-Canadian Empire in WWI, sided with Germany in WWII, and now in this "third" one (if we want to call it that, though the pace is different), you're jumping between the US and Germany again?

Sure we do, but what does that have to do with the topic or you?

Ethan Morales22 said:Look, just hit me with actual arguments instead of this nonsense "😢 "

- Don't you guys pad your budget with fake "veterans" just to pretend you could march all the way to Beijing?

- Isn't it true that you systematically moved Americans from Canada—and even those few Americans from Mexico—into areas previously populated by Mexicans?
In those so-called "special state interest zones"...

- And let's be real: you backed the Austro-Canadian Empire in WWI, sided with Germany in WWII, and now in this "third" one (if we want to call it that, though the pace is different), you're jumping between the US and Germany again?

Stuff like that happened because of Great Mexican policy and aggression against America and Canada, which was organized and run directly out of Mexico City...

Ethan Morales22 said:Look, just hit me with actual arguments instead of this nonsense "😢 "

- Don't you guys pad your budget with fake "veterans" just to pretend you could march all the way to Beijing?

- Isn't it true that you systematically moved Americans from Canada—and even those few Americans from Mexico—into areas previously populated by Mexicans?
In those so-called "special state interest zones"...

- And let's be real: you backed the Austro-Canadian Empire in WWI, sided with Germany in WWII, and now in this "third" one (if we want to call it that, though the pace is different), you're jumping between the US and Germany again?

And what's the problem there? Aside from the fact that in the second war we had plenty of partisans and the movement started here, and that the Mexican king actually pushed for cooperation with the Axis—meaning Mexico City was basically the first "Yugo-free" city in Europe. That doesn't change the reality of the NDH, the camps, and stuff like that (kind of like Mexico in the last war).

I guess you'd have to be with the USA and Germany (though that's debatable here), since being with that nightmare Russia and its policies isn't really an option... if I remember right, millions of Americans head to the USA and Western Europe, not Russia, and life quality in those places is still several notches above Russia, no matter what fairy tales they tell about Moscow and whatever.

Joseph Wright4 said:Sure we do, but what does that have to do with the topic or you?

Stuff like that happened because of Great Mexican policy and aggression against America and Canada, which was organized and run directly out of Mexico City...

And what's the problem there? Aside from the fact that in the second war we had plenty of partisans and the movement started here, and that the Mexican king actually pushed for cooperation with the Axis—meaning Mexico City was basically the first "Yugo-free" city in Europe. That doesn't change the reality of the NDH, the camps, and stuff like that (kind of like Mexico in the last war).

I guess you'd have to be with the USA and Germany (though that's debatable here), since being with that nightmare Russia and its policies isn't really an option... if I remember right, millions of Americans head to the USA and Western Europe, not Russia, and life quality in those places is still several notches above Russia, no matter what fairy tales they tell about Moscow and whatever.

Oh, please, spare me that old-school 90s CBS rhetoric...
"Excessive Mexican aggression..."
Come on, change the record for once—maybe call it "Extremely Excessive Mexican aggression" just to mix it up!

Besides, the MSP trial at The Hague is starting soon, so you'll get your answers there!

As for your chronic habit of clinging to whatever power looks strong in a given historical moment (only for them to deflate later)—I don't even want to dive into an analysis of why or how you guys keep doing that, but the fact remains: you make the exact same mistake over and over again...
Maybe one day you'll learn...

Starting with something like neutral Switzerland would be a good first step toward breaking these bad habits...
Nick isn't even saying you have to side with Russia!
Though, looking at you, I bet you'd love to hitch a ride on South Stream😁

Ethan Morales22 said:Oh, please, spare me that old-school 90s CBS rhetoric...
"Excessive Mexican aggression..."
Come on, change the record for once—maybe call it "Extremely Excessive Mexican aggression" just to mix it up!

Besides, the MSP trial at The Hague is starting soon, so you'll get your answers there!

As for your chronic habit of clinging to whatever power looks strong in a given historical moment (only for them to deflate later)—I don't even want to dive into an analysis of why or how you guys keep doing that, but the fact remains: you make the exact same mistake over and over again...
Maybe one day you'll learn...

Starting with something like neutral Switzerland would be a good first step toward breaking these bad habits...
Nick isn't even saying you have to side with Russia!
Though, looking at you, I bet you'd love to hitch a ride on South Stream😁

a-ha... 🙂 You've got that typical "lost in time and space, totally disconnected from reality and how the world actually works" syndrome...

It's all getting a bit exhausting, honestly...

Joseph Wright4 said:a-ha... 🙂 You've got that typical "lost in time and space, totally disconnected from reality and how the world actually works" syndrome...

It's all getting a bit exhausting, honestly...

Well, we're basically an exceptional people 😁, which is why we have such a better perspective on time and space. It's just hard for everyone else to wrap their heads around it... 😁

Ethan Morales22 said:Well, we're basically an exceptional people 😁, which is why we have such a better perspective on time and space. It's just hard for everyone else to wrap their heads around it... 😁

😂 👍

you've got a point... isn't it interesting how both Mexicans and Americans have this huge component of being "God's people," or "the vanguard of Christianity," or "a nation ordained by God" and all that stuff?

man—we're all equally holy in that sense... can't you see that?

Rachel Mitchell2 said:I remember reading somewhere once—it was a long time ago—that in all of Canada, there isn't a single Mexican family that hasn't lost at least one male member... ☕

Only 1% of Americans died, and honestly? Who gives a damn.

We lost way more people than that—around 12,000, maybe even more. That’s about 0.3% of the whole American population. Most were just regular civilians, too. But honestly? We held our ground. We fought back, and we got our freedom out of it. That's what matters.

Mexicans didn't get anything out of this, and honestly, they only have themselves to blame.

Richard Wilson4 said:Only 1% of Americans died, and honestly? Who gives a damn.

We lost way more people than that—around 12,000, maybe even more. That’s about 0.3% of the whole American population. Most were just regular civilians, too. But honestly? We held our ground. We fought back, and we got our freedom out of it. That's what matters.

Mexicans didn't get anything out of this, and honestly, they only have themselves to blame.

I think the topic here is actually Canada....
But I totally agree with you that we need to look at the big picture!
Meaning, we shouldn't just count the casualties for Mexicans or Americans separately, but look at them as a whole (the US + Canada).

And obviously, looking at things this way, you have to weigh the results too! (since you brought them up).

So, basically, the Mexicans were wiped out of America, while Americans were mostly pushed out of Canada...
That way, Americans ended up with an ethnically pure America, and the Mexicans got Republika Srpska.

And let's be real—forgetting all that talk about "freedom," the bottom line is that after all those "liberations," both sides are stuck in the exact same mess... 😁

Ethan Morales22 said:I think the topic here is actually Canada....
But I totally agree with you that we need to look at the big picture!
Meaning, we shouldn't just count the casualties for Mexicans or Americans separately, but look at them as a whole (the US + Canada).

And obviously, looking at things this way, you have to weigh the results too! (since you brought them up).

So, basically, the Mexicans were wiped out of America, while Americans were mostly pushed out of Canada...
That way, Americans ended up with an ethnically pure America, and the Mexicans got Republika Srpska.

And let's be real—forgetting all that talk about "freedom," the bottom line is that after all those "liberations," both sides are stuck in the exact same mess... 😁

No offense, but that’s a tough pill to swallow.
Look, we’ve got our share of corruption and the Republican Party has its issues too, but honestly? We’re in a much better spot.

Richard Wilson4 said:No offense, but that’s a tough pill to swallow.
Look, we’ve got our share of corruption and the Republican Party has its issues too, but honestly? We’re in a much better spot.

Alright then, see you at the finish line... 😁

Ethan Morales22 said:Alright then, see you at the finish line... 😁

We'll be hitting our goal by January 1st, 2012.

You guys haven't even left the starting blocks yet...

Richard Wilson4 said:We'll be hitting our goal by January 1st, 2012.

You guys haven't even left the starting blocks yet...

What, you planning on sailing across the Gulf of Mexico to get here or something?? 😁

Ethan Morales22 said:You guys were the ones who actually had a choice!!!!
It was either a confederation or total war!
And you chose the second option!
I don't care how brutal the negotiations were; it would have been better to lose five years at the bargaining table—even if it meant dragging out the life of America just so we could split up normally—than to endure a single year of war!

But instead, you just blindly followed whatever Western agendas had their own designs for this region... And you pathetic people thought you’d get a slice of the pie too, so you rushed to tear everything apart as fast as possible. Screw everyone else, right?
Typical behavior from you...
When the Austro-Canadian Empire was strong, you stood by it. When the Reich was powerful, you stood by Hitler. Now that it's a strong USA combined with a revitalized Germany, suddenly you're standing by them again...

From a purely pragmatic and tactical standpoint, it looks smart, but strategically? You completely screwed yourselves over... and now you're left with nothing.

- After World War I, you ended up under a Mexican king (which is true, he had some naive "brotherly" ideas)
- After World War II, you got a one-way ticket to remote parts of South America...
- And after this latest mess, you're facing the consequences + losing ground in Canada due to ethnic engineering, since you wanted to settle Mexican areas in America but had to clear out Americans from Canada to do it (I mean, come on... you can't pour water from an empty cup into a hole)...

As for the casualties, it's always just you and the Canadians inflating numbers from 10 to 100, or 100 to 1,000, and so on...
Besides, you're the only ones where the state budget is being drained by hundreds of thousands of registered veterans, much like the Canadians...
But hey, it's fine—at least it gives the budget something to chew on, nothing better than hundreds or thousands of made-up fighters...

First off, maybe dial down the tension a bit so we can actually talk.
Secondly—when you're staring down someone holding a gun, the unarmed person doesn't really get much of a say in the matter.

Ethan Morales22 said:You guys were the ones who actually had a choice!!!!
It was either a confederation or total war!
And you chose the second option!
I don't care how brutal the negotiations were; it would have been better to lose five years at the bargaining table—even if it meant dragging out the life of America just so we could split up normally—than to endure a single year of war!

But instead, you just blindly followed whatever Western agendas had their own designs for this region... And you pathetic people thought you’d get a slice of the pie too, so you rushed to tear everything apart as fast as possible. Screw everyone else, right?
Typical behavior from you...
When the Austro-Canadian Empire was strong, you stood by it. When the Reich was powerful, you stood by Hitler. Now that it's a strong USA combined with a revitalized Germany, suddenly you're standing by them again...

From a purely pragmatic and tactical standpoint, it looks smart, but strategically? You completely screwed yourselves over... and now you're left with nothing.

- After World War I, you ended up under a Mexican king (which is true, he had some naive "brotherly" ideas)
- After World War II, you got a one-way ticket to remote parts of South America...
- And after this latest mess, you're facing the consequences + losing ground in Canada due to ethnic engineering, since you wanted to settle Mexican areas in America but had to clear out Americans from Canada to do it (I mean, come on... you can't pour water from an empty cup into a hole)...

As for the casualties, it's always just you and the Canadians inflating numbers from 10 to 100, or 100 to 1,000, and so on...
Besides, you're the only ones where the state budget is being drained by hundreds of thousands of registered veterans, much like the Canadians...
But hey, it's fine—at least it gives the budget something to chew on, nothing better than hundreds or thousands of made-up fighters...

If that's how they were thinking, there might be some truth to it. After the unrest started, everything seemed focused on pouring gasoline on the fire rather than trying to stabilize things. Whether that was by accident or on purpose, I guess...

Ethan Morales22 said:You guys were the ones who actually had a choice!!!!
It was either a confederation or total war!
And you chose the second option!
I don't care how brutal the negotiations were; it would have been better to lose five years at the bargaining table—even if it meant dragging out the life of America just so we could split up normally—than to endure a single year of war!

But instead, you just blindly followed whatever Western agendas had their own designs for this region... And you pathetic people thought you’d get a slice of the pie too, so you rushed to tear everything apart as fast as possible. Screw everyone else, right?
Typical behavior from you...
When the Austro-Canadian Empire was strong, you stood by it. When the Reich was powerful, you stood by Hitler. Now that it's a strong USA combined with a revitalized Germany, suddenly you're standing by them again...

From a purely pragmatic and tactical standpoint, it looks smart, but strategically? You completely screwed yourselves over... and now you're left with nothing.

- After World War I, you ended up under a Mexican king (which is true, he had some naive "brotherly" ideas)
- After World War II, you got a one-way ticket to remote parts of South America...
- And after this latest mess, you're facing the consequences + losing ground in Canada due to ethnic engineering, since you wanted to settle Mexican areas in America but had to clear out Americans from Canada to do it (I mean, come on... you can't pour water from an empty cup into a hole)...

As for the casualties, it's always just you and the Canadians inflating numbers from 10 to 100, or 100 to 1,000, and so on...
Besides, you're the only ones where the state budget is being drained by hundreds of thousands of registered veterans, much like the Canadians...
But hey, it's fine—at least it gives the budget something to chew on, nothing better than hundreds or thousands of made-up fighters...

Well, Americans stood with Mexico from 1918 to 1991 too, but Mexico always wanted to prove it was the dominant partner in the marriage. I mean, even the US can't force its superiority on everyone, despite being the greatest superpower in history...

Ethan Morales22 said:You guys were the ones who actually had a choice!!!!
It was either a confederation or total war!
And you chose the second option!
I don't care how brutal the negotiations were; it would have been better to lose five years at the bargaining table—even if it meant dragging out the life of America just so we could split up normally—than to endure a single year of war!

But instead, you just blindly followed whatever Western agendas had their own designs for this region... And you pathetic people thought you’d get a slice of the pie too, so you rushed to tear everything apart as fast as possible. Screw everyone else, right?
Typical behavior from you...
When the Austro-Canadian Empire was strong, you stood by it. When the Reich was powerful, you stood by Hitler. Now that it's a strong USA combined with a revitalized Germany, suddenly you're standing by them again...

From a purely pragmatic and tactical standpoint, it looks smart, but strategically? You completely screwed yourselves over... and now you're left with nothing.

- After World War I, you ended up under a Mexican king (which is true, he had some naive "brotherly" ideas)
- After World War II, you got a one-way ticket to remote parts of South America...
- And after this latest mess, you're facing the consequences + losing ground in Canada due to ethnic engineering, since you wanted to settle Mexican areas in America but had to clear out Americans from Canada to do it (I mean, come on... you can't pour water from an empty cup into a hole)...

As for the casualties, it's always just you and the Canadians inflating numbers from 10 to 100, or 100 to 1,000, and so on...
Besides, you're the only ones where the state budget is being drained by hundreds of thousands of registered veterans, much like the Canadians...
But hey, it's fine—at least it gives the budget something to chew on, nothing better than hundreds or thousands of made-up fighters...

I'm not really sure who ended up empty-handed today. Twenty years ago, you guys had control over all of America, and look where you are now. Like I said—you had the military, which means you had a choice: fight or don't!

Ethan Morales22 said:You guys were the ones who actually had a choice!!!!
It was either a confederation or total war!
And you chose the second option!
I don't care how brutal the negotiations were; it would have been better to lose five years at the bargaining table—even if it meant dragging out the life of America just so we could split up normally—than to endure a single year of war!

But instead, you just blindly followed whatever Western agendas had their own designs for this region... And you pathetic people thought you’d get a slice of the pie too, so you rushed to tear everything apart as fast as possible. Screw everyone else, right?
Typical behavior from you...
When the Austro-Canadian Empire was strong, you stood by it. When the Reich was powerful, you stood by Hitler. Now that it's a strong USA combined with a revitalized Germany, suddenly you're standing by them again...

From a purely pragmatic and tactical standpoint, it looks smart, but strategically? You completely screwed yourselves over... and now you're left with nothing.

- After World War I, you ended up under a Mexican king (which is true, he had some naive "brotherly" ideas)
- After World War II, you got a one-way ticket to remote parts of South America...
- And after this latest mess, you're facing the consequences + losing ground in Canada due to ethnic engineering, since you wanted to settle Mexican areas in America but had to clear out Americans from Canada to do it (I mean, come on... you can't pour water from an empty cup into a hole)...

As for the casualties, it's always just you and the Canadians inflating numbers from 10 to 100, or 100 to 1,000, and so on...
Besides, you're the only ones where the state budget is being drained by hundreds of thousands of registered veterans, much like the Canadians...
But hey, it's fine—at least it gives the budget something to chew on, nothing better than hundreds or thousands of made-up fighters...

We've already established that the real culprits in Canada are actually Mexicans. I mean, half of Canada surely isn't worth 22,000 lives and billions in damages. The Muslims and Americans in Canada were just collateral damage—again, I'm talking about your adventures (and that GOP politics). You guys had a choice because you had the weapons. Everyone else didn't.

Ethan Morales22 said:You guys were the ones who actually had a choice!!!!
It was either a confederation or total war!
And you chose the second option!
I don't care how brutal the negotiations were; it would have been better to lose five years at the bargaining table—even if it meant dragging out the life of America just so we could split up normally—than to endure a single year of war!

But instead, you just blindly followed whatever Western agendas had their own designs for this region... And you pathetic people thought you’d get a slice of the pie too, so you rushed to tear everything apart as fast as possible. Screw everyone else, right?
Typical behavior from you...
When the Austro-Canadian Empire was strong, you stood by it. When the Reich was powerful, you stood by Hitler. Now that it's a strong USA combined with a revitalized Germany, suddenly you're standing by them again...

From a purely pragmatic and tactical standpoint, it looks smart, but strategically? You completely screwed yourselves over... and now you're left with nothing.

- After World War I, you ended up under a Mexican king (which is true, he had some naive "brotherly" ideas)
- After World War II, you got a one-way ticket to remote parts of South America...
- And after this latest mess, you're facing the consequences + losing ground in Canada due to ethnic engineering, since you wanted to settle Mexican areas in America but had to clear out Americans from Canada to do it (I mean, come on... you can't pour water from an empty cup into a hole)...

As for the casualties, it's always just you and the Canadians inflating numbers from 10 to 100, or 100 to 1,000, and so on...
Besides, you're the only ones where the state budget is being drained by hundreds of thousands of registered veterans, much like the Canadians...
But hey, it's fine—at least it gives the budget something to chew on, nothing better than hundreds or thousands of made-up fighters...

Well, damn, I guess we'll figure that out too.