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Are homophobes just closeted?

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James Allen6 James Allen6 Active Member
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#81 ·
My textbook refers to this as an "argumentum ad hominem"😉
ambertinker51 ambertinker51 Member
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#82 ·
Maybe one day some disordered person close to you—someone using lies, projection, gaslighting, and splitting just to mask their own deep-seated sense of inadequacy—will actually manage to take your kids away by using cold, unfeeling bureaucrats from the local Census Bureau family services teams. Then you’ll finally understand what it means to fight for the rest of your life against people who want to label personality disorders as "normal." First in public opinion, and then through the legal system and the enforcement of American family law.

Homophobes are disordered individuals. Their sex lives have never been my business, but because of them and the feminists who baked their agendas into state policy... and ultimately into how family law is enforced... my children suffered...!!!

So, I hate you all like dogs—like Nazis, like fascists, like scum, like biological waste. But honestly? That doesn't even touch how much I loathe the people who protect you and promote your dysfunction as if it were perfectly normal...!!!!
stormylynx4 stormylynx4 Member
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#83 ·
For anyone looking to push back against the gay community, whether they support parades or not, here is some required reading. The article author seems to have some pretty interesting takes on people dealing with mental health issues, addiction, or disabilities.
Honestly, I’d much rather hang out with the folks marching in the parade than 😬people like her—she actually scares me😱.
It’s a shame you have to register just to leave a comment.
ambertinker51 ambertinker51 Member
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#84 ·
You can take a Molotov cocktail to the face, you can break your teeth on a punch...

But the cheap promotion of mental instability combined with that feeling of total helplessness against the discriminatory enforcement of family law—that’s what should actually scare you.

It’s infuriating...
We have to fight back against this....
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#85 ·
ambertinker51 said:Maybe one day some disordered person close to you—someone using lies, projection, gaslighting, and splitting just to mask their own deep-seated sense of inadequacy—will actually manage to take your kids away by using cold, unfeeling bureaucrats from the local Census Bureau family services teams. Then you’ll finally understand what it means to fight for the rest of your life against people who want to label personality disorders as "normal." First in public opinion, and then through the legal system and the enforcement of American family law.

Homophobes are disordered individuals. Their sex lives have never been my business, but because of them and the feminists who baked their agendas into state policy... and ultimately into how family law is enforced... my children suffered...!!!

So, I hate you all like dogs—like Nazis, like fascists, like scum, like biological waste. But honestly? That doesn't even touch how much I loathe the people who protect you and promote your dysfunction as if it were perfectly normal...!!!!

Fine... like I mentioned before, I'm bisexual, but it's people like you who make me want to pretend I'm a lesbian instead.😉

But go ahead... give us an example. What exactly have these people done to justify all this so we can actually empathize with your little tragedy?
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#86 ·
Jonathan Kim4 said:I honestly don't quite grasp the point of all these similar gatherings—not just the gay parades, but even certain concerts...

I mean, at the end of the day, I really want to see how the average person reacts—you know, those folks who seem to think they might suddenly turn gay just because they shared a drink with one of them after the show.

Ultimately, we need to start having these conversations, because that’s the only way to actually strip away the stigma surrounding this "group."

Think about it—back in the day, people used to burn women at the stake like witches, and it took them a while to realize just how foolish they were being.

Perhaps a thing like San Francisco Pride could help people see that these are just regular people, just like anyone else, and maybe then the attacks will finally stop.

I suppose I agree.
Maybe this very forum—specifically this thread—is actually a decent opportunity to help educate those closeted individuals who hide behind being a homophobe, helping them see that the people they fear are truly just regular folks, just like us.
We might even be able to achieve this by, say, sharing some photos.
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A typical guy might wear a mask on the outside, but you—the latent homosexuals masquerading as homophobes—you’re wearing that mask internally, essentially lying to yourselves.
It might be time to just accept the fact that you are homosexual and that you are perfectly normal.
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#87 ·
Jonathan Kim4 said:No. The real topic here is the crowd that necessitates having 300 protesters and 500 police officers on standby.

Just a little observation for the group—it feels like there are more cops protecting these parades nowadays than there were guarding Putin.

If Putin were homosexual, I suppose he’d have five hundred officers guarding him too.
It's hardly his fault he isn't.
ambertinker51 ambertinker51 Member
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#88 ·
What have those homophobes actually done to warrant our sympathy or make us understand your tragedy?

The person closest to me was never given a chance to see what they were dealing with—no access to actual psychosocial treatment. My kids didn't grasp what a "borderline mother" was doing to them, nor did they realize the devastating impact Parenteral Alienation was having on their lives...

All because the people in charge—the ones who were supposed to help—refused to acknowledge how personality disorders fuel all these massive public health and social issues...

And they won't, because the Pride movement has clouded their vision by pushing their own dysfunction as the new normal...!!!!
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#89 ·
ambertinker51 said:
What have those homophobes actually done to warrant our sympathy or make us understand your tragedy?

The person closest to me was never given a chance to see what they were dealing with—no access to actual psychosocial treatment. My kids didn't grasp what a "borderline mother" was doing to them, nor did they realize the devastating impact Parenteral Alienation was having on their lives...

All because the people in charge—the ones who were supposed to help—refused to acknowledge how personality disorders fuel all these massive public health and social issues...

And they won't, because the Pride movement has clouded their vision by pushing their own dysfunction as the new normal...!!!!

Perhaps because you’re so busy throwing exclamation points around—if we’re going to borrow English terminology—I’ve lost sight of the forest for the trees here... but...

1. I still haven't quite figured out your gender.
2. I don't fully grasp the core issue you're presenting.
3. And frankly, I don't understand why, in a perfectly casual conversation, you feel the need to resort to such cowardly, dysfunctional, and entirely unnecessary pseudo-scientific jargon.😕
ambertinker51 ambertinker51 Member
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#90 ·
...honestly, one day the only logical explanation for the witch trials will probably be that those poor souls were actually suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder—BPD

(after deeply analyzing behavior patterns that deviate significantly from the baseline of a disturbed individual)

It’s honestly ridiculous how normalizing homosexuality does such a massive disservice to gay people themselves—I'm talking about the concept of actual self-awareness

they end up "equal" and "free," yet completely deluded into thinking they're normal, and they almost narrowly escaped being torched with Molotov cocktails back in the States on July 7, 2007...

Logically and factually, it wasn't any different from the burnings in Salem back in 1692.
Sandra Walker4 Sandra Walker4 Member
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#91 ·
Honestly, I just want to see how the average American reacts.Those people actually believe drinking from the same glass makes them gay. Ridiculous.

At the end of the day, we need to start having this conversation. It’s the only way to finally strip away the stigma surrounding that group.

Women used to burn witches. They finally realized how stupid that was.

Maybe Pride will finally show everyone that they're just regular people like anyone else. Perhaps then the attacks will stop.

Until today, I didn't have anything against homosexuals. In fact, I actually tried to justify their parades through the streets every year. I figured they weren't any more or less problematic than anyone else who ended up on that path due to genetics or mental health struggles—people who felt the weight of societal pressure and forced truths. Because of that, I assumed they understood the value of respecting *other* people's freedom. I thought yesterday’s display was just a release of long-held frustrations—a rebellion born from years of suppressed identity. They wanted to show their true selves to friends, fellow citizens, and even parents. Maybe it was even a way to get back at those parents who never gave them the support they needed.

I was wrong. I saw a photo that actually floored me. It’s proof that these people have zero grasp of what freedom actually means. Turns out, they aren't any more self-aware or less blinded by ideology than anyone else. They just feel this desperate need to force their "truths" onto anyone weaker or easier to manipulate. Most people do it, really. They just frame it differently—acting like they're superior because they're simply following their own sexual or romantic impulses. They haven't learned a damn thing from living under the weight of society's forced truths; instead, they just turn around and commit the exact same mistakes against others.
Is it even sane to drag a child to these kinds of rallies? They lack the capacity for independent thought or any sense of judgment at this age. It’s absurd to wrap little kids in flags and use them as props for political agendas. What kind of parents allow this? These are nothing more than unconscious monsters who will manufacture any excuse to justify their behavior.

I’m livid. Truly, deeply angry—and exhausted by the sadness of it all. It’s the same old story: these "free thinkers" who scream about their own rights while completely ignoring the rights of children and the sick. They're nothing but egoists. Is it really that much to ask to let a child develop naturally? To show them the different paths so they can actually find themselves? Instead, we see people using kids as pawns to push agendas or vent their own primitive impulses and frustrations. Honestly, seeing this kind of depravity makes me wonder why I even bother existing in a world like this.

Some people just don't get it. Kids aren't instruments or property; they’re living beings. They shouldn't be forced to carry their parents' massive egos or rigid ideologies. What’s really the difference between a parent who uses physical or psychological abuse and one who drags their child to a parade where half-naked men march while screaming mobs threaten anyone in sight? It's the same thing. There is some kind of curse in people—this inability to self-reflect. They can't grasp that their "truths" are just theirs. They aren't divine, and they certainly aren't gods or sages. Just humans. This photo alone changed my entire perspective on gay rights. I feel bitter and disillusioned. I actually believed people learned from experience. That was just another delusion. So many children, tonight and every day, are nothing more than tools used by parents to satisfy their most repulsive impulses.
Think about how many kids are being abused right now in all their different ways. They’re being stripped of their agency and their basic freedom. I know firsthand what it’s like when someone forces their own psychological baggage and fears onto you, leaving you to fight those battles for the rest of your life.

It’s a disgrace. A total, absolute disgrace.

A better, kinder, more advanced world? Pure utopia. It’s a fantasy. We can't even bother to question our own actions or grasp the damage we inflict on others. We're just blind, heartless, and completely self-absorbed.
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#92 ·
ambertinker51 said:...honestly, one day the only logical explanation for the witch trials will probably be that those poor souls were actually suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder—BPD

(after deeply analyzing behavior patterns that deviate significantly from the baseline of a disturbed individual)

It’s honestly ridiculous how normalizing homosexuality does such a massive disservice to gay people themselves—I'm talking about the concept of actual self-awareness

they end up "equal" and "free," yet completely deluded into thinking they're normal, and they almost narrowly escaped being torched with Molotov cocktails back in the States on July 7, 2007...

Logically and factually, it wasn't any different from the burnings in Salem back in 1692.

Exactly... is there even a point in saying more?
Based on this persona being quoted here, they basically want to see every gay man sent to the breaking stones. That would be the summary of their intellectual discourse, considering they started off by claiming to be an intellectual... heaven forbid!!👎
ambertinker51 ambertinker51 Member
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#93 ·
1. I'm male, just checking if I can feel both testicles plus an epididymal cyst
2. This whole issue is actually pretty common—around 2-3% of the population deals with BPD, which would be roughly 150,000 similar cases here in the US
3. It's not "quasi-" anything, it's actual scientific terminology—not psychological, but psychiatric
Informally speaking: homophobes are patients who make society even sicker, making victims more vulnerable and those being abused even more targeted...

You've got to hate them... definitely..!!!!
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#94 ·
As for Sandra Walker4, I really only have one thing to say... while people are busy nitpicking every single minor mistake made by the gay community, absolutely everything seems to be swept under the rug when it comes to the straight population.
It’s just an open door for kids to be swayed by all sorts of political rhetoric and various other agendas—including outright hate speech, for that matter.

I don't recall anyone ever making a massive stink about people leading children toward Nazi rallies or extremist protests (usually under the convenient guise of "having no other choice"), or kids running around waving flags with giant Swastikas on them. But the second a gay person takes a child to a Pride parade? Oh my god... suddenly it's an absolute catastrophe!!!!
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#95 ·
ambertinker51 said:1. I'm male, just checking if I can feel both testicles plus an epididymal cyst
2. This whole issue is actually pretty common—around 2-3% of the population deals with BPD, which would be roughly 150,000 similar cases here in the US
3. It's not "quasi-" anything, it's actual scientific terminology—not psychological, but psychiatric
Informally speaking: homophobes are patients who make society even sicker, making victims more vulnerable and those being abused even more targeted...

You've got to hate them... definitely..!!!!

1. Masculinity isn't determined by feeling your testicles... but I suppose that's something you'll NEVER grasp.
2. I’m actually referring to your own personal baggage, which you seem to be dodging every time we talk.
3. What kind of school did you attend to toss around terminology like that? If you actually graduated from a legitimate institution, tell me... where exactly were you licensed to practice?

Somewhere in a comic book shop, I assume.
ambertinker51 ambertinker51 Member
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#96 ·
..building an entire argument based on one nasty little detail..

But you, slywolf45, are twisting my words so much that I don't even see the point in talking to you anymore.

Look, what I actually said was that we wouldn't be burning people alive for being gay anymore—but we all need to face reality, including them. We have to recognize the nature and severity of their dysfunction. Not because of who they are, but because of these so-called severe and dangerous personality disorders—borderline and antisocial—which are increasingly bleeding into our daily lives and causing massive public health and social issues...!!!
ambertinker51 ambertinker51 Member
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#97 ·
I thought you were asking about gender... speaking of masculinity: I check all the boxes. From those Hollywood tropes to the negative stereotypes pushed by Neva and that war criminal Hloverka—plus I do extreme sports: spearfishing, climbing, paintball... Oh, and I was on the front lines during the Homeland War, hairy chest and all, and twice without even needing to pull it out...

I actually believed in being devoted to one woman, at least until I ran into personality disorders... which are, let's face it, the ultimate test of manhood.
Sandra Walker4 Sandra Walker4 Member
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#98 ·
slywolf45 said:As for Sandra Walker4, I really only have one thing to say... while people are busy nitpicking every single minor mistake made by the gay community, absolutely everything seems to be swept under the rug when it comes to the straight population.
It’s just an open door for kids to be swayed by all sorts of political rhetoric and various other agendas—including outright hate speech, for that matter.

I don't recall anyone ever making a massive stink about people leading children toward Nazi rallies or extremist protests (usually under the convenient guise of "having no other choice"), or kids running around waving flags with giant Swastikas on them. But the second a gay person takes a child to a Pride parade? Oh my god... suddenly it's an absolute catastrophe!!!!

Please, you clearly couldn't or wouldn't acknowledge the massive amount of criticism there was. Besides, those political rallies are usually fueled by "ecstasy" and applause from the crowd, while this is a traumatic experience for such small children—on one side, half-naked men in underwear advertising their sexuality, and on the other, a frenzied mob making threats. If that isn't abuse, I don't know what is....
Beyond that, shouldn't children be protected from things like this at an age where they shouldn't even be required to attend rallies promoting specific sexualities or orientations?

Those parents who dress their kids in extremist uniforms are usually uneducated folks straight off a farm, yet you all think you're so progressive while doing these things to children....

And ambertinker51 is a joke, judging others based on a single post and whining because I build my views on details that aren't necessarily exceptions (though they often are, since people refuse to see their own mistakes). And they definitely think they're the smartest person in the room and always right....
ambertinker51 ambertinker51 Member
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#99 ·
...look, I’m no genius. I'm just ambertinker51... you know exactly what I'm about..

Just type my handle into the search bar—Google is your best friend here...
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#100 ·
Sandra Walker4 said:Please, you clearly couldn't or wouldn't acknowledge the massive amount of criticism there was. Besides, those political rallies are usually fueled by "ecstasy" and applause from the crowd, while this is a traumatic experience for such small children—on one side, half-naked men in underwear advertising their sexuality, and on the other, a frenzied mob making threats. If that isn't abuse, I don't know what is....
Beyond that, shouldn't children be protected from things like this at an age where they shouldn't even be required to attend rallies promoting specific sexualities or orientations?

Those parents who dress their kids in extremist uniforms are usually uneducated folks straight off a farm, yet you all think you're so progressive while doing these things to children....

And ambertinker51 is a joke, judging others based on a single post and whining because I build my views on details that aren't necessarily exceptions (though they often are, since people refuse to see their own mistakes). And they definitely think they're the smartest person in the room and always right....


So, we're on the same page then..

Are you suggesting it's worse to teach kids about sexual diversity than it is to expose them to religious or nationalistic hatred?
Don't go thinking those kids at the other rallies aren't getting skewed perceptions, even if it all happens amidst a sense of "religious fervor."

I'm not making excuses for either side. Kids shouldn't have any business being at any of these rallies until they have a better grasp of reality—most importantly, an understanding of themselves. But if I were forced to choose, I'd much rather they learn about sexual diversity than learn who they are supposed to hate..

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