Do We Know Anything At All!?

Daniel Chavez14 said:Does anyone have a different take on what New Age actually means?
If not, I guess I’ll just have to settle for the definition provided by Douglas Brown4. 😉

And do you even have a definition for anything? (Seriously, anything at all? 😬 )

So, what's your take, Professor? Huh??? 😍

Jesse Wright24 said:Don't be so reductive; you're only describing half of reality.

The other half is:

"George, you idiot! Do you actually believe that? You're sick. What kind of Indian deities?! Go get some help! Why won't you sleep with me? You pig! Idiot! I hate you! I should kill you! I want you to suffer forever! Sleep with me! Now! Right now!"

(A paraphrase of one breakup; any resemblance to actual persons is purely coincidental)

frozenangler9 said:And do you even have a definition for anything? (Seriously, anything at all? 😬 )

So, what's your take, Professor? Huh??? 😍

I'll get my chance to say what I think in person. 😉
Right now, I'm just gathering everyone else's perspectives so I can be better prepared. 🙂

Daniel Chavez14 said:Does anyone have a different take on what New Age actually means?
If not, I guess I’ll just have to settle for the definition provided by Douglas Brown4. 😉

I mean... you've gotta be kidding me, right? 😲

rustymaker5 said:I mean... you've gotta be kidding me, right? 😲

No, I'm just stirring the pot a bit to see if I can nudge someone (you, for instance) into offering a different—maybe even better?—definition.

Quentin:

What do you all think?

I think I'll give it a watch.
Actually, I'm downloading it right now...🙂

Alice in Wonderland... just found it... thanks for the suggestions.

Daniel Chavez14 said:I'll get my chance to say what I think in person. 😉
Right now, I'm just gathering everyone else's perspectives so I can be better prepared. 🙂

Just drop the coordinates for that thing, please... 🙏
Even if it's just via DM. 😘

Daniel Chavez14 said:No, I'm just stirring the pot a bit to see if I can nudge someone (you, for instance) into offering a different—maybe even better?—definition.

It’s almost like looking at the mind, body, and soul as one big interconnected thing; sort of a cocktail of theosophy, environmentalism, Eastern mysticism, and Western materialism, all wrapped up in this idea that a new age of peace and harmony is right around the corner...
Like the belief that a person's destiny is a private matter between them and God, rather than something dictated by some authority in a cathedral? Or the idea that every individual needs to take full responsibility for everything happening in their life because everything is fundamentally linked? And learning how to truly love people, in a way that actually frees them from our own selfish expectations...
That isn't quite a definition, I suppose, but those are certainly some hallmarks of NAG. 🙂

rustymaker5 said:It’s almost like looking at the mind, body, and soul as one big interconnected thing; sort of a cocktail of theosophy, environmentalism, Eastern mysticism, and Western materialism, all wrapped up in this idea that a new age of peace and harmony is right around the corner...
Like the belief that a person's destiny is a private matter between them and God, rather than something dictated by some authority in a cathedral? Or the idea that every individual needs to take full responsibility for everything happening in their life because everything is fundamentally linked? And learning how to truly love people, in a way that actually frees them from our own selfish expectations...
That isn't quite a definition, I suppose, but those are certainly some hallmarks of NAG. 🙂

I'm not a fan of the first part (honestly, I don't subscribe to those views at all). But the second part? Definitely! 🙂

What The Bleep Do We Know!?

This movie is absolute garbage. It was put together by some cult following a local guru obsessed with "enlightenment." 😲

//based upon the teachings of JZ Knight/Ramtha, of whom the three directors are devotees// 👎

Pure New Age nonsense. I barely made it through because a coworker insisted on it.
Just a bunch of pseudo-science and "mysticism" junk.
A total waste of bandwidth. 👎

P.S. It leans heavily into Transcendental Meditation vibes, so I bet some folks here are pushing it for that reason. 😎

rustymaker5 said:It’s almost like looking at the mind, body, and soul as one big interconnected thing; sort of a cocktail of theosophy, environmentalism, Eastern mysticism, and Western materialism, all wrapped up in this idea that a new age of peace and harmony is right around the corner...
Like the belief that a person's destiny is a private matter between them and God, rather than something dictated by some authority in a cathedral? Or the idea that every individual needs to take full responsibility for everything happening in their life because everything is fundamentally linked? And learning how to truly love people, in a way that actually frees them from our own selfish expectations...
That isn't quite a definition, I suppose, but those are certainly some hallmarks of NAG. 🙂

Yes. That is how it’s stated on paper.
In reality, it mostly boils down to being irresponsible, smoking joints, and just existing without any drive to actually achieve or do anything. People fake meditating and working on their consciousness. It's bad music with shallow harmonies. It's making money by reading tea leaves and selling smoke. Laziness, hedonism, and plain stupidity.

Anthony Perez9 said:What The Bleep Do We Know!?

This movie is absolute garbage. It was put together by some cult following a local guru obsessed with "enlightenment." 😲

//based upon the teachings of JZ Knight/Ramtha, of whom the three directors are devotees// 👎

Pure New Age nonsense. I barely made it through because a coworker insisted on it.
Just a bunch of pseudo-science and "mysticism" junk.
A total waste of bandwidth. 👎

P.S. It leans heavily into Transcendental Meditation vibes, so I bet some folks here are pushing it for that reason. 😎

Right. But what exactly about the film is inaccurate? Just because the truth feels unpleasant or cultish doesn't mean it isn't true.

Daniel Chavez14 said:I'm not a fan of the first part (honestly, I don't subscribe to those views at all). But the second part? Definitely! 🙂

See, the whole thing boils down to the fact that we always have a choice in everything we do... we just pick whatever aligns with our own worldview, whatever makes us feel more fulfilled, more purposeful, more content... basically anything that doesn't drag us down into rigid dogmas, hopelessness, being closed-minded, or just plain old dissatisfaction.
Personally, I find myself leaning toward certain New Age ideas, but only as much as they actually feed my soul and help me live better with the people around me... 🙂

Daniel Chavez14 said:I'm not a fan of the first part (honestly, I don't subscribe to those views at all). But the second part? Definitely! 🙂

Could someone give me a quick summary so I don't waste my time downloading this? What specifically about the first part didn't sit right with you?

Douglas Brown4 said:Yes. That is how it’s stated on paper.
In reality, it mostly boils down to being irresponsible, smoking joints, and just existing without any drive to actually achieve or do anything. People fake meditating and working on their consciousness. It's bad music with shallow harmonies. It's making money by reading tea leaves and selling smoke. Laziness, hedonism, and plain stupidity.

It’s honestly a shame you’ve had such terrible experiences with New Age... assuming you’ve actually experienced it at all. Because everything you just listed sounds more like a critique of people who claim the label just because they think it makes them look cool. Every group has its parasites, after all. You don't blame the bread just because there's a few weevils in the grain...🙂

rustymaker5 said:It’s honestly a shame you’ve had such terrible experiences with New Age... assuming you’ve actually experienced it at all. Because everything you just listed sounds more like a critique of people who claim the label just because they think it makes them look cool. Every group has its parasites, after all. You don't blame the bread just because there's a few weevils in the grain...🙂

I have met plenty of people. Fine. I'll grant you that they were all bad. Or rather, they were all parasites.
So, here is my follow-up: where am I supposed to find the good ones? The people for whom New Age isn't just an excuse for laziness, hedonism, or being a degenerate?

Hannah Wilson3 said:Right. But what exactly about the film is inaccurate? Just because the truth feels unpleasant or cultish doesn't mean it isn't true.

Nah, the truth is great!
The problem is trying to force some shaky "quantum physics" explanation onto the macro world—it’s ridiculous (like that bit about the kid multiplying basketballs). It's all just: "...and therefore anything is possible, if only our minds didn't limit us." All delivered by some guru wearing thick-ass glasses. If he's so damn sure about the power of thought, why hasn't he fixed his eyesight yet?

Or that whole story where the natives couldn't see Columbus's ships because they couldn't imagine them. In reality, they were just terrified by superstition, thinking some holy Gavran had arrived, so they kept their eyes down. Then some supposed New Age shaman touches their third eye and suddenly—POOF—they can see the ships that were right there the whole time.

Just typical New Age mumbo-jumbo and shallow chatter, pretending they've grabbed God by the beard and attained peak spirituality. 👎Total garbage.

Daniel Chavez14 said:I'm not a fan of the first part (honestly, I don't subscribe to those views at all). But the second part? Definitely! 🙂

Could someone give me a quick rundown so I don't waste time downloading it right now? I guess, what specifically didn't you like about the first part?

Douglas Brown4 said:I have met plenty of people. Fine. I'll grant you that they were all bad. Or rather, they were all parasites.
So, here is my follow-up: where am I supposed to find the good ones? The people for whom New Age isn't just an excuse for laziness, hedonism, or being a degenerate?

I honestly can't give you a roadmap for that... I have my own circle of friends, and believe it or not, we aren't all obsessed with New Age stuff. It doesn't bother us at all that we all hang out and have a good time together. You don't exactly go around forcing your philosophy down everyone's throat; you just live it out through your actions. Eventually, you cross paths with people who share your interests, you realize you actually enjoy their company, and suddenly it clicks that you're on the same wavelength. You just gravitate toward each other without having to hunt anyone down. And look, we all work, we all make a living, and sometimes we even collaborate on business ventures... 🙂
They say birds of a feather flock together, right? 😉

p.s.

And what’s so wrong with hedonism anyway? Isn't it true that every single person is just trying to make life better, to be happy, satisfied, and to actually enjoy being alive?

rustymaker5 said:I honestly can't give you a roadmap for that... I have my own circle of friends, and believe it or not, we aren't all obsessed with New Age stuff. It doesn't bother us at all that we all hang out and have a good time together. You don't exactly go around forcing your philosophy down everyone's throat; you just live it out through your actions. Eventually, you cross paths with people who share your interests, you realize you actually enjoy their company, and suddenly it clicks that you're on the same wavelength. You just gravitate toward each other without having to hunt anyone down. And look, we all work, we all make a living, and sometimes we even collaborate on business ventures... 🙂
They say birds of a feather flock together, right? 😉

p.s.

And what’s so wrong with hedonism anyway? Isn't it true that every single person is just trying to make life better, to be happy, satisfied, and to actually enjoy being alive?

That’s what I have. In fact, many of you are actually reading and watching what we do.

Quinn:

They say birds of a feather flock together. 😉

I suppose that should be the case.

Quinn:

p.s. And what's wrong with hedonism? Doesn't everyone strive to feel better, to be happy and satisfied, and to enjoy life?

I forgot to mention "shallow." You always seem to nitpick my words, yet when I provide examples, you accuse me of gossiping.
I mean, look, sleeping with three guys and five girls at once isn't spirituality. Using drugs, smoking joints, and getting drunk isn't spirituality either.
What's wrong with that? Nothing, I guess. It's just not for me.