Was Jesus a liberal or a conservative?

It’s the exact same situation as those other threads where I only jumped in because people kept quoting me.

So, honestly, you should take it up with the people who were calling me out, rather than coming after me.

Everyone has to carry their own cross. 😉

😁

So, basically, I feel like we’ve all pretty much landed on the conclusion that Christ was actually a communist—which, if you think about it, has a certain poetic ring to it! 😁 Plus, once you look at the evidence, those typical counterarguments just don't seem to hold any water at all.

Matthew Wright2 said:...and nobody even bothers to ask you anything, right? It’s just like how some extremist radical ends up being the county commissioner in, well, Memphis.

Pah! Absolute garbage!

I mean, seriously—do I even need to say more?

Just keep going with your little fan fiction, buddy. At this point, living in a fantasy land is pretty much all you've got left.

And what about the actual description?

I honestly get the feeling you don't even know what you're trying to push...

Matthew Wright2 said:...nobody even bothers to ask you anything, and then you see a guy who was part of those old extremist militias serving as a county governor in Memphis.

I guess it's all "good news" if there are enough idiots out there celebrating this kind of thing. 👍
Long live democracy. 👍

Long live socialism and freedom!
Look, you didn't even bother describing your version of communism, so at least explain the logic behind that sign of yours. I quoted it for a reason. It’s fine to have ideas, but believing in something that is fundamentally impossible to implement? Seriously? Just tell me how old you are, man—maybe then some things will finally make sense.

Look, we’re good. Honestly, I think we’ve done enough questioning for one lifetime. I’m really not the subject of this investigation, and frankly, you’re starting to get a little exhausting to be around.

So, how about you just take a breather, give me some space, and go find someone else to pester? Come on now...

Maybe you just enjoy being messed with a little bit, sweetheart 😉 🙂......... alright just kidding 😎

Sorry, I can't even wish you a happy Christmas. I mean, do you actually celebrate it, seeing as you claim to follow Jesus Christ so closely? Just wondering.. for real

CroKoala said:maybe life just loves messing with you a little bit, babe 😉 🙂......... alright just kidding 😎

Sorry, I can't even wish you a happy Christmas—I mean, do you actually celebrate it? Since you're all about following Jesus Christ... just wondering.. for real

The Communists celebrate on December 22nd—it's basically the anniversary of the US Army.

🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉

Hey everyone (including Greven🙄 perhaps, perhaps not), I want to wish all of you who celebrate a Merry Christmas!

Personally, I’m celebrating it as a Wide-visioned Modern Man—think of me as a little beacon of warmth and humanity in this crazy world.

My mom, on the other hand, sticks to the more traditional church route.

Meanwhile, my grandkids are already loading up on that sweet Syrup and chocolate, so I’ll probably be dealing with them being hyperactive all night long. 😛 😬

😘 🙂 Have a Merry Christmas Eve/Day! 👋

CroKoala said:maybe you just love being teased a little bit more than anyone else😉 🙂......... alright just kidding 😎

My bad, I can't even wish you a happy Christmas, can I? Since you follow Jesus Christ, I guess it’s a bit of a tricky question... right? for real

I don't celebrate it because I'm not a believer, but even if I were... honestly, I think the whole circus surrounding Christmas is just massive. It feels like such a huge amount of money is being wasted on stuff we don't need, and the production and shipping of all those goods just adds more unnecessary pollution to our shared Mother Earth. Meanwhile, in certain parts of the world, people are literally starving—even back in your old home country. To me, it feels like something Jesus himself would be ashamed of; it seems like it's all done in his name, yet he was so humble and never looked for idolatry or material excess.

Instead of true believers going around buying each other meaningless trinkets, they should really take all that massive wealth and send it to Africa to help alleviate some of the hunger caused by droughts—droughts that we are actually responsible for through our frantic pollution of the planet.

Matthew Wright2 said:Look, I don't celebrate because I'm just not a believer, but even if I were... man, the whole circus surrounding Christmas is just wild. We’re dumping massive amounts of money into this stuff—money that's basically being thrown away—and the production and shipping of all those gadgets and junk just wrecks our beautiful planet. Meanwhile, you've got people starving in parts of the world, and honestly, even back in your old home state... I really feel like Jesus would be embarrassed by it all. It’s all done in His name, but He was all about humility, right? He definitely wasn't looking for idols or this crazy materialist blowout.

Real believers should stop buying useless trinkets for each other and instead take all that cash and send it over to Africa to help ease the hunger caused by droughts—droughts we're basically making worse by polluting everything so aggressively.

But hey, John Lennon wanted it that way, right?

So, anyway—still haven't seen a single thing that actually looks like a Communist state...

Matthew Wright2 said:Real believers shouldn't be wasting fortunes on pointless gift exchanges. That money would be better spent sending aid to Africa to help ease the hunger caused by droughts—droughts we're responsible for because we're constantly polluting the planet.

Heavy industry has only been running the show for maybe two hundred years. Calling it "constant" destruction of the planet is a stretch.🤣 🤣 🤣

Bradley Nelson2 said:the world’s been grinding away at heavy industry for maybe just over 200 years! basically just relentlessly torturing the planet 🤣 🤣 🤣

Speaking of which—didn't Lenin define heavy industry as the whole backbone of the socialist revolution? That's exactly why that one-legged former convict was so obsessed with steel mills and ended up polluting half of America... I mean, apparently, Communists get a free pass, but Christians don't get to touch the thermostat 😵

Brian Moore67 said:Since we’re on the subject, didn't Lenin basically claim heavy industry was the whole backbone of the socialist revolution? That's exactly why that one-legged former convict was so obsessed with steel mills—he ended up poisoning half of America in the process... I guess Communists get a free pass for that kind of destruction, but Christians don't 😵

Man, it's a far cry from South Korea, where their entire economic foundation is built on manufacturing bamboo chopsticks 😵.

Brian Moore67 said:Speaking of which, didn't Lenin claim heavy industry was the backbone of the socialist revolution? That’s why that one-legged former convict was so obsessed with steel mills—he ended up poisoning half of America in the process. Somehow, the Communists get a pass on that, while Christians don't. 😵

They strayed a bit from the path. 😁
Cuba relies on cigars, and Bolivia lives off cocaine. 😲

😲

Greven said:even if I were... I honestly think the whole Christmas circus is just a massive waste of money. All those resources being poured into production and distribution, unnecessarily polluting our shared planet while, in certain parts of the world, people are actually starving—even back in your ****** homeland... I feel like it’s something Jesus would be ashamed of. It seems to be done in His name, yet He was humble and never asked for idolatry or this kind of material excess.

Look, I actually agree with a lot of that. 🙂 Sometimes I really feel like we've completely lost ourselves to consumerism...
but my Former homeland isn't mine, and it never was. My Former 😉

What I don't get is why people are dying of hunger in my Homeland???
Why are those in power—those still shackled by those old dictatorial ways of thinking—allowed to
actually, some might even say they help 😕

Listen, I'm not against you if you're an atheist; not at all. Faith or lack thereof is a personal matter. And I'm not against you believing in Communist ideology either.

What bothers me is whether (if so) you support the corruption we see today from the top State leaders—those who have managed to distort everything from God to Communism, turning almost everything into one simple thing: pure malice. 🙄

but "my former homeland isn't mine, nor has it ever been!", Bivsa

Anyway, let's just focus on the present, regardless.

what I just can't wrap my head around is why people are actually starving in my own country???

It is actually quite straightforward, and honestly, we have seen this exact pattern play out in plenty of other capitalist nations before. It happens because the capitalists are recklessly and frenetically grabbing everything in sight, leaving absolutely nothing left over for the poor or the elderly to survive on.

why are those in power—who are still stuck in those old-school dictatorial ways of thinking—allowed to
even go so far as to seemingly help?

Because they are all part of the exact same gang.

are you supporting this current corruption coming from the top State of America?

Of course not! If I had the chance, I wouldn't think twice about shipping them off to Alcatraz; that’s where they belong. And I don't just mean the local crowd, but the whole damn region. Thieves and criminals belong behind bars, not sitting comfortably in high-ranking political offices.

Matthew Wright2 said:Of course not. If it were up to me, I’d ship them all straight to a high-security prison in the middle of nowhere without a second thought. That's where they belong. And I don't just mean certain politicians in America, but the whole damn xYu establishment. Thieves and criminals belong behind bars, not sitting in high-ranking office chairs.

Fair enough. Personally, I think everyone should have the right to their own political beliefs—that's what democracy is supposed to be about, right?
I'm not saying anyone's ideology matters more than anyone else's, whether they believe in socialism, liberalism, conservatism, left-wing, or right-wing politics... as long as we aren't supporting this current ZLocest mess at the top.

So, Matthew Wright2, I have to ask: how would you actually vote here in the States?
I'm curious how an ultra-leftist like you would cast a ballot given the current state of affairs, or how you'd go about helping svoj party avoid supporting this nonsense?

It is not a trick question, I honestly don't get it! I'd really love to hear your thoughts if you're willing to say them publicly, but hey, if not, fine. 🙂