Are vegetarians actually smarter?

kriskros99 said:I believe in Karma—and reincarnation, too.

Well—it’s probably no wonder you hold those kinds of views... 🤣 🤣 🤣

sad but true said:What makes you think nobody tells people what they should be eating?

Oh, they absolutely tell them. Society imposes its standards whether you choose to notice or not. If you’ve ever sat through a reality show like George Orwell's Big Brother, you would have seen firsthand how ten or fifteen idiots on prime-time television dictate thought patterns to the masses. That kind of programming is a crime against intellect. It’s just as insidious how our "virtuous" society forces everyone to perform on cue: you have to be joyful for New Year's Day, pious and good for Christmas, mournful for the Day of the Dead, patriotic for Independence Day, and lovestruck for Valentine's Day—you name it. It’s pathetic, really, but it's the truth. Just like you.

Taylor Campbell4, do you think animals get hit with bad karma too, just because they have to eat other creatures or plants to survive?

Could you elaborate a bit more on your take regarding karma when it comes to these kinds of questions?

Thomas Stewart97 said:Hey Thomas, does karma bite animals on the butt too—just because they eat other animals or plants?

Could you expand a bit on your take regarding karma and these specific scenarios?

Once you link karma to reincarnation—well, everything becomes crystal clear.

kriskros99 said:I have plenty of animals myself—and I’m certain they understand what's happening. When the time comes, those responsible will have to face the consequences of their actions.
Why does life feel like a living hell for some people? It's because this world is essentially a classroom—one where you stay until the lesson is finally learned.

What makes life such a nightmare for certain individuals, and who exactly are those people?

kriskros99 said:it might work for you—mostly because you probably don't realize there's more to life than just this physical world.
Karma eventually catches up with everyone.
I suppose karma will come back to haunt you—eventually.🙂

Honestly, I think karma is a total load of nonsense.👋

kriskros99 said:Once you link karma to reincarnation, everything becomes crystal clear.

Fair point—but the real question is whether that picture actually holds any weight in reality. How exactly are you making that connection?

sad but true said:no wonder you hold those kinds of views 🤣 🤣 🤣

That’s irrelevant—I absolutely love animals.

Thomas Stewart97 said:Well, obviously—the real question is whether the image is real or unreal. How exactly are you linking the two?

There isn't much to link—the material world is transient and ultimately illusory, a mere training ground for learning and gaining insight before breaking that cycle entirely. But that’s a whole different conversation.

sad but true said:karma is a total myth 👋

Exactly—particularly for people under the impression they can dodge accountability. Well, newsflash: they can't.🙂
Everything eventually circles back around.

Rachel Martinez11 said:First off, calling someone's claims "stupid" is just rude—especially when they’re perfectly logical and non-offensive, much like my own points.
Secondly, I haven't attacked anyone, which suggests your interpretations might be a bit paranoid.
Thirdly, if you can't maintain a level of decency, I'm going to treat you like a troll; engaging in personal bickering is simply a waste of my time.

What, are you some kind of delicate little flower?

You seem more than happy to judge everyone and everything without any actual substance—and even when you've been completely shut down on one topic, you just pivot to another and keep rambling—yet the moment someone calls out that nonsense, you take offense? Fine.

I guess I won't call this whole vegetarian fanaticism thing stupid anymore (aside from it being useless, reactionary, and so on).

Thirdly, if you can't maintain a level of decency, I'm going to treat you like a troll; engaging in personal bickering is simply a waste of my time.

Well, look at that—to me, this entire fanatic vegetarian movement feels like trolling, and based on your example, I see why you think debating it is a waste of time. You'll eventually learn your lesson when karma catches up to you (as Thomas Stewart97 mentioned), but right now, I really am just wasting my breath.🙂

wheel said:Of course they influence them. Society imposes its own standards—whether you notice it or not. If you’ve ever watched George Orwell, you might have seen how ten or fifteen idiots on prime-time TV end up dictating how everyone else is supposed to think.

Fascinating. You just keep going, I guess. People love eating meat because—unlike plants—it actually tastes great. I remember an episode of DirectTV where they featured some vegetarians. There was this guy cooking miso soup, and for half an hour, he just rambled about the benefits of a vegetarian diet—how it's all so wonderful and trendy—but in those thirty minutes, he never once mentioned actually enjoying the food. Well, honestly, what's the point of food if you don't even enjoy it? 🤮

sad but true said:It’s fascinating—really. You just keep going, over and over. People crave meat because, frankly, unlike plants, it tastes incredible. I remember watching an episode of Chase where they interviewed some vegetarians. There was this one guy making miso soup who spent a solid half hour lecturing everyone on why a vegetarian diet is "superior" and "totally awesome"—but in all that time, he didn't mention once that he actually enjoyed the food. Honestly, life is too short for food you don't even like. 🤮

Well, the world wasn't built for pure indulgence, anyway.

hereticST said:It just grates on my nerves when vegetarians try to lecture me about how much "better" their diet is or act like they're morally superior simply because they don't kill animals. Give me a break. Who do they think they are, judging me?

I came across this passage recently that really hits home for me. It suggests that a fundamental lack of empathy isn't just a quirk—it's a hallmark symptom of psychopathy:

“Interpersonally, psychopathic individuals are arrogant, superficial, deceitful, and manipulative. Affectively, their emotions are shallow and labile. They are unable to form strong emotional bonds with others and are lacking in empathy, anxiety, and guilt. Behaviourally, they are irresponsible, impulsive, sensation seeking, and prone to delinquency and criminality” (p. 16).

I mean, are you actually convinced that karma is going to come knocking on the door for everyone eating animals today?
And how exactly do you justify your own history of eating animals over thousands of past lives?

If you can't give me a real answer, just don't bother responding with something completely nonsensical. 🙄

Thomas Stewart97 said:Why is the world a living hell for certain people—and who are they, exactly?

Well—it comes down to karma. It’s plain to see that for some, life is nothing but a series of hardships. The world is simply full of suffering.

Thomas Stewart97 said:Look, I'm just questioning how you can be so certain that everyone eating meat today is going to face some cosmic retribution based on the laws of karma.
And how exactly does that apply to you—given all those times you ate animals in your previous lives?

If you can't provide a real answer, please don't bother responding with something completely nonsensical. 🙄

I wouldn't say I'm certain—but I'd assume so, simply because it follows logic.
I can't quite put my finger on the "how," though.

Thomas Stewart97 said:No... it's more accurate to say feeling is... knowing.
Feelings are just a bit more nuanced.

Oh, I see!
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I agree—feelings carry a certain weight (maybe even truth?) that thoughts lack.
That’s why when someone loses their temper, they're often much closer to the actual reality of a situation than if they were sitting there calmly overanalyzing everything through a lens of pure logic...

So, in that sense, our friend Thomas Stewart97 is actually right—because he's tapping into that intuition (and honestly, feelings have such an incredible capacity for truth, it's almost hard to believe)
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wheel said:Is this some kind of new strategy? Kind of like—you know—farting and then asking who did it?

Well—if you’d just take a moment to read your own post again—maybe you’ll realize you basically described yourself and all other vegetarians as nothing more than trendy posers—people who only do it because it happens to be cool right now.

kriskros99 said:I'm not entirely certain—though I assume it's the case, simply because it seems logical.
I just can't quite put my finger on how.

A-haaa, so you're assuming it's logical—even if we haven't actually seen the full picture yet.
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