Are vegetarians actually smarter?

wearygardener13 said:What’s actually the distinction between killing an animal and killing a plant?

Following that same line of logic—what makes you any different from a plant?

Xerxes said:🙄

A sperm cell can't just spontaneously turn into a human being—nor can an egg—so calling it genocide is a stretch. But hey, I suppose it’s important for your post to actually hold water. ☕ 😵

corpse (kôrps) pronunciation
n.

A dead body, especially the dead body of a human.

Even if we call everything dead a corpse, plants don't have a central nervous system. There isn't any suffering involved when a plant dies. That’s why I don’t feel a shred of guilt eating a salad, whereas I would if I were eating meat. To equate a plant with an animal is to downplay the actual agony every innocent creature endures from the moment it's raised until its horrific end. Now, I don't expect everyone to suddenly grasp why it's wrong to inflict pain on an innocent animal when you don't have to. It’s possible to live without it. Just like I don't expect people to collectively quit smoking tomorrow just because I point out that cigarette smoke is toxic and lethal.

robybaggio said:I always assumed vegetarians were smarter, given their supposed grasp on quantum physics.

Bravo. Just brilliant.

robybaggio said:You’d be better off keeping your mouth shut if you wanted to stop sounding so stupid.

It’s the oldest trick in the book, isn't it? That classic fallback for anyone incapable of constructing a coherent thought—when the logic fails and the comprehension hits zero, just pivot to insults. I can't even bring myself to be angry at you; honestly, I almost envy you. It seems like you've got a direct ticket to the pearly gates.

sad but true said:The meat on our plates is fundamentally no different from the vegetables we eat— just the leftover remains of something that used to be alive. Call it a carcass, call it whatever makes you feel better.

It honestly sounds to me like you’ve got no problem with cannibalism, really. It’s all the same in the end—plants, animals, humans. Everything was once living, and everything can be consumed. That's a bit much, don't you think?

It’s actually been proven that plants can feel things too...

Sophia Allen12 said:it’s been proven that plants can feel things too...

Not really. What's actually been proven is that plants emit sound when they're cut. It's just gas escaping from within the plant during the process—similar to how a punctured Goodyear tire makes a noise, but that doesn't mean the tire is sentient.

Honestly, you should just read *The Secret Life of Plants*—then maybe you'll see my point.

Rachel Martinez11, you are being incredibly tedious with those dogmatic views of yours. You really need to realize that your perspective is just that—your own—and it certainly isn't some universal truth. I mean, who are you to claim it's wrong to eat animals?

And let’s be real: you are NEVER going to change the world. Meat eaters make up the vast majority—they always will—and frankly, thank God for that. Because at the end of the day, all your arguments, no matter how convincing they might seem, fall apart against one undeniable fact: vegetarian food is just utterly bland. 🙏 🙏

Meat is king. 😍

wearygardener13 said:Yeah, maybe read *The Secret Life of Plants* and you'll finally get it.

Then go ahead and read *Mein Kampf*; maybe then you'll see how much of a visionary Hitler actually was.

wearygardener13 said:Just realize that your opinion is just an opinion—it isn't some universal truth. Who are you to claim it's wrong to kill animals for food?

I never claimed my perspective was some kind of absolute law. I’m just a guy trying to live according to his own conscience. I'm far from perfect—honestly, you might be a hundred times better than I am. But I try. And because I try, I have every right to be here, and everywhere else, stating what I believe is right.

wearygardener13 said:Vegetarian food is completely tasteless 🙏 🙏

Ever had a corn and mushroom pizza? Chocolate pancakes? Pasta with tomato sauce and parmesan? French fries? Ice cream? Strawberries and cream?

Rachel Martinez11 said:Actually, that's not quite right. There’s been research showing that plants emit sounds when they're being cut—but it's just because of gas bubbles releasing inside them during the process. It's kind of like how a punctured tire makes a loud noise; it doesn't mean the tire is actually alive, right?

Well, I disagree!
I've seen plenty of studies suggesting that plants actually grow better if you play light, soothing music for them—they even seem to lean toward the source of the sound and stuff like that...

Rachel Martinez11 said:Even if we call a dead plant a corpse, since plants don't have a central nervous system, there was zero suffering involved in its death. That’s why I don't feel guilty about eating a plant, whereas I would if I were eating meat. To say a plant and an animal are the same thing just downplays the actual pain every innocent creature goes through, from the moment they're raised to their horrific end. Look, I don't expect everyone to get why it's wrong to inflict pain on an innocent animal when we simply don't have to. And we really don't.

So you mean if animals could die a painless death, you'd be fine eating them?

Maria Moore4 said:So if animals were facing a painless death, you'd just eat them then?

If I could be absolutely certain they weren't capable of suffering—much like how I'm convinced plants don't feel anything—and if I knew for a fact they didn't care whether they were free or caged, whether they felt the cold or the heat, or whether they were living their lives or being slaughtered... if they were truly indifferent to everything, totally unresponsive to any stimulus at all, then yeah, I suppose I probably would eat them.

Sophia Allen12 said:Well, it’s about time someone noticed!
There were actually studies done suggesting plants grow better if you play soft, soothing music for them—they even supposedly lean toward the sound source and all that.

I can't recall if there was ever anything similar regarding human hair or nails...

Rachel Martinez11 said:If I could be absolutely certain that they don't feel pain—since I'm pretty sure plants don't—and if I knew they didn't care whether they were free or caged, hot or cold, alive or being slaughtered... if they were just totally indifferent to everything and gave zero reaction to any stimulus, then yeah, I’d probably eat them.

Wait, hold on. Don't plants actually react to stimuli? Like, doesn't temperature matter to them too?

Rachel Martinez11 said:I never claimed my position was some kind of universal law.—I guess I just have my own view.

But you really do—you constantly insist that animals shouldn't kill for food, and that this is somehow the only—the truly correct—way to look at things.🙄 🙄

Rachel Martinez11 said:But I am trying. And because of that, I believe I have the right to say what I think is right—here or anywhere else.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Rachel Martinez11 said:(though I'm quite certain plants aren't

But—I mean—have you ever actually considered that you might be wrong?

Musatom said:Hey, nothing to see here 😬

Vegetarians are total hypocrites—they claim to love animals while literally stealing their food supplies 🙄

If you look at the cold, hard statistics—if every single person on this planet actually went vegetarian—the global population couldn't possibly sustain itself above maybe 2 billion people tops...

What’s the deal with that whole blood type theory? Apparently, if you have Type O blood, you’re basically hardwired to be a meat eater 😬
And look, I’m not using that as an excuse for my diet. My only real justification is that my stomach starts staging a protest whenever I try to deny it some crispy baby back ribs 😈

rustypilot73 said:According to the numbers, if everyone on Earth went vegetarian, we could probably support a maximum population of about 2 billion people...

Where exactly did you pick up that statistic? At the local butcher shop?

wearygardener13 said:Have you ever actually stopped to consider that you might be wrong?

If I had been presented with even a single coherent argument from you, I might have given it some thought. But this? Reading through your posts—all that repetitive "I’m brilliant and you’re an idiot" posturing—only serves to make me more certain of my own position.

I’m right there with you—I am a total carnivore...

Lamb... tender cuts... smash burgers... 🙂

Speaking of research—I remember reading a massive study on nutrition in a major US news outlet about a year back. They released some statistics suggesting that people who consume meat more frequently actually see an improvement in cognitive function. So, I guess it really is all relative...
Just like in that same article, there was data showing that vegetarians suffer from heart disease at significantly lower rates...

It depends on the individual, I suppose. Personally, I believe moderation is the gold standard for everything—whether we're talking about greens or steak...