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Are vegetarians actually smarter?

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rustypilot73 rustypilot73 Newcomer
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#121 ·
Rachel Martinez11 said:Where on earth did you find that statistic? At the local deli?


No—this isn't some random rumor from a butcher shop; it’s being tracked by a federal agency using actual statistical modeling. I heard a highly respected professor mention it during a lecture—just a passing comment, really—but he was quite clear about it.

And if you actually take a moment to think about it, it's undeniably true...
Rachel Martinez11 Rachel Martinez11 Active Member
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#122 ·
restlesscobra132 said:A little? 😕 Seriously, Rachel Martinez11, give me a break. At least try to make the lie believable. 😬

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"...I don't deal in stars or pretty little lies; I've had enough of those nonsense things rattling around my head..." But I could spend hours talking about your eyes—those mirrors catching every bit of sunlight... 🙂
Gerald Rivera60 Gerald Rivera60 Active Member
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#123 ·
Pigeons... if you're looking to trade affection, go check the DMs or some other subforum.
Rachel Martinez11 Rachel Martinez11 Active Member
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#124 ·
Gerald Rivera60 said:Listen, you lovebirds... if you're looking to swap affection, take it to the DMs or some other subforum.

Have you ever sat through "How the War Started on My Island"? It’s a total mind-bender... honestly, we could all use a little levity to break this heavy atmosphere. Besides, this whole thread is basically a live demonstration of vegetarian intellect, flirting, and general nonsense, so I suppose there's a loose connection to the topic here.🙂 Especially since restlesscobra132 is such a meat-eater. So, consider this a showcase of vegetarian free thought! Anyway, enough out of me. Scout's honor!
restlesscobra132 restlesscobra132 Member
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#125 ·
Exactly! We're done with that!🙂
Rachel Martinez11 was actually the one who started this
Rachel Martinez11 Rachel Martinez11 Active Member
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#126 ·
rustypilot73 said:No, it's actually being run by some American agency using statistical modeling... I remember a prominent professor mentioning it casually during a lecture once. Just a passing remark, really...

When you actually sit down and think about it, there’s some truth to that...

Why on earth was my reply to this post deleted? It’s simply not true, and frankly, it defies common sense.
wearygardener13 wearygardener13 Active Member
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#127 ·
Vegetarians are just... unkind, I suppose 😢
Rachel Martinez11 Rachel Martinez11 Active Member
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#128 ·
wearygardener13 said:vegetarians are evil😢

I honestly thought your whole mission here was just pure trolling—or maybe an attempt to adopt some sort of carnivore lifestyle. But now I’m actually confused. Looking back at everything you’ve posted in this thread, you seem to be going out of your way to argue that vegetarians are actually the smarter ones.
wearygardener13 wearygardener13 Active Member
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#129 ·
Rachel Martinez11 said:I was honestly convinced—aside from just trolling—that your whole mission was to adopt some sort of carnivore lifestyle. But now I’m a bit confused, because in every single post in this thread, you seem to be trying to argue that vegetarians are actually the smarter ones.

Oh boy 😲 😲

Man, here is something you clearly need— 🙈
Rebecca Cox2 Rebecca Cox2 Active Member
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#130 ·
Tiffany said:What are your thoughts on this?

I certainly wish that were the case. However, if we look at the animal kingdom—which we are undeniably a part of, whether we care to admit it or not—the reality is almost the exact opposite. Unfortunately, does that fact tell us anything about modern human intelligence? Not really, and neither does this study.😛
feralcobra20 feralcobra20 Member
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#131 ·
The data shows that vegetarians clock in at an average IQ of 106, while meat-eaters sit at 101; furthermore, vegetarian women averaged 104, compared to 99 for non-vegetarian women.

What I find particularly unsettling, though, is how they completely failed to draw the obvious conclusion that men might actually be more intelligent than women 🤣
Rebecca Cox2 Rebecca Cox2 Active Member
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#132 ·
Sophia Allen12 said:Oh, absolutely!
There have been studies showing that plants grow better if you play soothing, light music for them—even suggesting they actually lean toward the sound source and such...

Actually, that's incorrect. There haven't been any legitimate scientific studies on this; most of what people cite are just elementary school science fair projects rooted in pseudoscience.

A plant doesn't possess a nervous system capable of perceiving vibrations or aligning itself with them. It doesn't even have ears...
Sophia Allen12 Sophia Allen12 Active Member
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#133 ·
Rebecca Cox2 said:Actually, you've got it wrong. There hasn't been any real research—most of those are just elementary school science fair projects built on pure pseudoscience.

Plants don't have a nervous system to pick up vibrations and sync with them. Plus, they don't even have ears...

Hey, don't talk nonsense if you aren't sure what you're talking about! I've actually watched two different documentaries where researchers from various major universities were leading these exact studies.
Sophia Allen12 Sophia Allen12 Active Member
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#134 ·
In my experience, vegetarians are easily some of the most tedious people I’ve ever met!
wearygardener13 wearygardener13 Active Member
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#135 ·
What nonsense 🙄
In general—and I say this most sincerely—it seems you don't quite grasp what intelligence actually means, since it really doesn't have anything to do with your diet.
Thomas Stewart97 Thomas Stewart97 Active Member
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#136 ·
wearygardener13 said:What a ridiculous argument 🙄
—honestly, you clearly don't grasp what intelligence actually means, since it has nothing to do with your diet.

People who eat meat are missing something—be it empathy or basic intelligence—because they simply can't wrap their heads around the fact that consuming carcasses isn't normal.
Thomas Stewart97 Thomas Stewart97 Active Member
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#137 ·
Smart kids tend to grow up as vegetarians, according to researchers in America. Their data shows vegetarians average an IQ of 106—compared to 101 for non-vegetarians—while vegetarian women hit 104, versus 99 for their non-vegetarian peers.

Children with higher intelligence are more likely to adopt a vegetarian lifestyle as adults, researchers at the University of Southampton found.

They noted that individuals who chose to become vegetarians by age 30 typically showed IQ scores about five percent higher than average—even as early as age 10—according to American news outlets.

The scientists also suggest this connection might explain why people with higher IQs generally enjoy better health—given that plant-based diets are linked to lower rates of obesity and heart disease. These findings, based on a study of 8,179 participants, were published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Following up on IQ tests conducted back in 1970, 366 participants from the study identified as vegetarians, while roughly 100 described themselves as semi-vegetarians—those who still eat fish or chicken.

Men following vegetarian principles largely averaged an IQ of 106, compared to 101 among non-vegetarians. For women, the gap was 104 for vegetarians versus 99 for those eating meat.

The research further indicates that women and individuals with higher socioeconomic status—often involving higher levels of education—are more frequently drawn to vegetarianism.

"The discovery that smarter children are more likely to become vegetarians, combined with evidence regarding the potential heart health benefits of such a diet, could help clarify why higher childhood or adolescent IQ is linked to a reduced risk of coronary disease later in life," explained lead researcher Catharina Gale.

Liz O'Neill from the Vegetarian Society of America added: "We have always maintained that vegetarianism is an intelligent, compassionate choice for animals, humans, and the environment alike. Now, we finally have the scientific validation."

However, Dr. Frankie Phillips of the Nutrition Awareness Foundation raises a different point: "In my view, this is a bit of a 'chicken or the egg' scenario. Are people becoming vegetarians because they possess a higher IQ, or are they simply making more conscious, informed decisions about their own health?" 🙂
Rachel Martinez11 Rachel Martinez11 Active Member
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#138 ·
wearygardener13 said:the issue 😲 😲

son, here’s a little something you clearly need to hear - 🙈

Look, this is exactly what I’m talking about. This post is a pretty damning indictment of your intellect; honestly, I haven't been able to read anything more mindless from you. You’re probably just some undercover PETA plant trying to make meat-eaters look even stupider than they actually are. Even if that were the case, it’s a failed attempt on your part—I personally know plenty of people who eat meat and happen to be incredibly sharp.
Thomas Stewart97 Thomas Stewart97 Active Member
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#139 ·
I haven't touched meat since I was 15—it's been 12 years now.
Intelligent people simply don't eat carcasses.☕

Karma is a real thing—what goes around, comes around.🙂

P.S.

Your actions always find their way back to you.🙂
Rachel Martinez11 Rachel Martinez11 Active Member
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#140 ·
kriskros99 said:I haven't touched meat since I was fifteen. It’s been twelve years now.
Intelligent people don't feast on carcasses.☕

Give it a rest. There are plenty of people out there who have no choice but to eat meat, through no fault of their own.

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