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What are your thoughts on Natasha Kampusch?

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nimblesailor3 nimblesailor3 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2006
#101 ·
Walter Myers4 said:Why on earth would a kidnapper give jewelry to a 12-year-old girl? 😵

Well, twelve-year-olds wear necklaces and bracelets all the time.
And why specifically twelve? You could have easily said sixteen or seventeen...
mistyhound2 mistyhound2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2004
#102 ·
She definitely leveled up intellectually—reading all the right books, keeping up with the news, actually knowing what’s going on in the world. She comes across as incredibly sharp, which I’m sure you all noticed too. But did she actually grow emotionally? That’s a whole different story. If that guy is a full-blown psychopath—or if we’re using the fancy modern term, someone with a severe personality disorder involving a messy mix of paranoid, unstable, and dependent traits—then there isn't much doubt about it. Spending eight years of my life under someone like that... hm...
electricowl7 electricowl7 Newcomer
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#103 ·
I find it a little unsettling how well-groomed she looks. Her nails are absolutely flawless. And honestly, she doesn't look starved at all. How on earth did she pack on that much weight in just a few days, assuming they started feeding her properly now? Plus, she still refuses to see her parents in person, preferring to stick to phone calls. It’s possible she ran away during one of their big arguments. If she wasn't with that guy by choice, it's just strange how healthy and composed she seems to be.
And then there was that interview where she dropped details she shouldn't have known—like that business about the women in some remote part of Mexico. Who even knows about things like that, let alone her? It feels like she just memorized a script. Those moments where she seemed to fidget? That was probably just her trying to remember her lines, nothing more. As for the hands—well, most regular people get nervous when the cameras start rolling.
The whole thing just feels staged to me.
Betty Patel17 Betty Patel17 Member
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joined Feb 2006
#104 ·
I simply cannot fathom how anyone could harbor doubts about her. To my eyes, it’s incredibly obvious how much she’s had to endure; she has clearly developed intense defense mechanisms. If you watched the interview, wasn't it apparent that she’s been thoroughly coached by all sorts of professionals—ranging from PR specialists and psychologists to legal counsel and likely even her own parents?

Everything fits perfectly into the larger picture for me. I truly don't understand how someone could possibly question her or wonder how she could be anything other than "normal." The woman has built a wall around herself that you could see from space, she has visible tics, and her emotional connection to her parents seems stuck at a level from eight years ago.

The settlement money is the least significant part of this. Would you really trade eight years of your life living in a tiny studio apartment just to walk away with a few million dollars? Hmm? Personally, I wouldn't touch it... but what about you?
shadowowl9 shadowowl9 Member
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#105 ·
Let’s be honest: she is incredibly well-groomed and clearly well-off.

So, here’s the question I have: would you rather spend eight years with a guy who takes care of you, caters to your every whim in a tiny studio apartment, and eventually hands you millions, or would you rather endure eight years until adulthood with some neglected mother slapping you around in a cramped unit in a rough neighborhood—knowing full well that once you hit eighteen, you won't see a single cent, let alone a million dollars?

The timing strikes me as suspicious, too. Everything conveniently unfolded right when she turned eighteen, rather than at seventeen, or nineteen, for instance.
Betty Patel17 Betty Patel17 Member
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#106 ·
Are you honestly suggesting that the girl was capable of spinning such an elaborate web of lies with some unstable individual? Really?
Betty Patel17 Betty Patel17 Member
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#107 ·
Look, I simply cannot fathom sitting stuck in an apartment all weekend long. The idea of being confined to a single room for years on end? Absolutely not. I’d end up in a high-security facility in a rural part of the country. There isn't enough money in the world—not even millions—that could convince me to take that deal. To those of you claiming you would trade your normal lives for eight years of solitude in exchange for a payout: one has to wonder about your psychological and emotional stability. Is that perhaps why you're all hanging out on this forum? 🙂🙂
shadowowl9 shadowowl9 Member
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joined Sep 2008
#108 ·
Betty Patel17 said:Are you seriously suggesting that girl was capable of spinning such a massive web of lies with some unstable psycho? Huh?

Yeah. That’s exactly what I’m saying.
shadowowl9 shadowowl9 Member
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#109 ·
Betty Patel17 said:Look, I can’t stand being stuck in an apartment all weekend. The thought of being trapped in a single room for years? Forget it. I’d end up in a state psychiatric facility. No amount of millions could make that worth it. Honestly, anyone claiming they’d trade their entire life just to be alone for eight years—even with a massive payout—has some serious questions regarding their psychological and emotional maturity. I suppose that explains why you're all hanging out on this forum. 🙂🙂

And that’s exactly the catch. If Natasha had been ten years old when this happened—a kid with questionable psychological development due to broken homes, living in a rough neighborhood with a struggling mother, subjected to various kinds of abuse, and facing constant economic instability—well, then we'd have something to talk about.
But since none of that applies to you, you can't even begin to wrap your head around her potential motives for such a calculated act. Listen, sweetheart, the world doesn't start spinning just because you want it to, nor does it revolve around your personal preferences.
nimblesailor3 nimblesailor3 Newcomer
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#110 ·
shadowowl9 said:That’s the whole point—if Natasha had been ten years old at the time, she would have been a child struggling with psychological and emotional development. A child of divorced parents living in a rough neighborhood with an unstable mother, facing various types of abuse and economic hardship.
Since you haven't experienced any of that, you can't possibly grasp her motives for such a calculated act. But darling, neither the child nor the world revolves entirely around you and your preferences.


I saw it in The Wall Street Journal for the first time—that description of it being a "rough neighborhood."
The writer clearly hasn't a clue.
Maybe you're picturing something like a neglected corner of a major US city, but you don't find neighborhoods like that in Vienna.
I realize growing up with divorced parents isn't easy, but how many kids deal with that today?
Plenty of children in Vienna live in much worse conditions than what she had in that apartment with her mother. She even had her own room.
Well-groomed hands? She wasn't working construction sites. Besides, the makeup artists at PBS made sure she looked perfectly polished for the interview.
shadowowl9 shadowowl9 Member
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#111 ·
It’s a bad neighborhood, obviously, if you’re looking at it through a Vienna lens. But how else is a kid raised in Vienna supposed to see things? If you think that area is perfectly fine, all it tells me is that you’re viewing it from a Washington, D.C. perspective—maybe from somewhere like Kozar Bok. And hey, there’s nothing inherently wrong with that.
rustyfalcon52 rustyfalcon52 Member
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#112 ·
The full truth about Natasha probably won't come to light for years to come.

Besides, isn't she in some kind of institution? Is that why she's only communicating with her parents via phone calls?

Does anyone happen to have copies of newspapers from 1998?
I’m curious about how the case was portrayed back then. Was there massive media hype surrounding the kidnapping, or was it treated as a minor story?

Also, it's easy to judge the family dynamics now—talking about an abusive mother who slapped her, and so on. But let's be honest, weren't most of us raised with a bit of discipline? That doesn't automatically make your parents abusers.
boldeagle3 boldeagle3 Active Member
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#113 ·
electricowl7 said:It strikes me as a bit odd that she’s so well-groomed. Her nails look absolutely flawless...

Flawless nails?
With those massive, horror-show cuticles?
silverfalcon7 silverfalcon7 Member
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#114 ·
El Tomo said:Besides, we've seen stuff like this happen before. Does anyone remember that woman who was kidnapped by those far-left terrorist cells—I think it was an American group working with a German outfit, maybe the Red Army Faction or something along those lines? She was abducted, only to end up joining the very terrorists who snatched her just a few months later, actually fighting alongside them...

Oh, and if I recall correctly, once they finally tracked her down, they just tossed her straight into prison. Unbelievable!...
Drew Kim3 Drew Kim3 Member
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#115 ·
ANUŠKA said:I watched an interview tonight with that girl who was held captive by that psycho for eight years, and I honestly couldn't believe how composed, rational, and level-headed she is. I expected to see someone broken or terrified, but instead, she’s absolutely killing it. It was genuinely fascinating. As for the kidnapper? I'd love to take him out. What do you all think?


I'm right there with you. It's incredible how well she's doing, whereas that maniac deserves nothing but the worst.
Olivia Carter25 Olivia Carter25 Member
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#116 ·
Nobody is claiming she was ever in a healthy situation to begin with. But let's be real, there was already a foundation laid for her to develop narcissistic personality disorder.

Actually, NPD is an incredibly common occurrence among victims of abuse—it's one of those frequent defense mechanisms. No one is saying she’s acting this way just because she's "evil"; rather, this behavior is a survival tactic. When a child realizes that the only way to survive their environment—in this case, an abuser—is to adapt to their demands through manipulation, they do it just to stay afloat. Over time, especially if the trauma persists, the child learns to function this way and develops a false persona. It’s a mask designed to manipulate the surroundings and cater to what people want to see just to earn affection. Eventually, the person practically forgets that beneath this facade lies a true self filled with so much pain and trauma that its very existence has been completely denied. That mechanism sticks around even after they escape that environment, and that's what we call narcissistic personality disorder.
From the outside, these individuals look perfectly fine. They can even be wildly successful and project an image of being incredibly strong (take Tom Cruise, for example, who dealt with an abusive father during his childhood). But behind that defensive shield is someone incapable of managing basic aspects of a normal life—like healthy human relationships (since they'll likely fall back into old patterns just to feel loved, making it nearly impossible for their true self to surface) or genuine fulfillment (because even if they achieve worldly success, they're hollowed out by an internal emptiness that eats them alive). I won't go on listing every single symptom.

Now, I don't know if she was already like this before, or if that guy specifically broke her, or any of the three hundred other details that are pointless to dive into since we can't verify them anymore. All I'm saying is that she is clearly not mentally sound, and you can't take everything she says at face value. What we saw in that interview was definitely Nataschin Lazni ja, because the real her wouldn't use that logic—claiming her parents were good when everything points to the contrary (which might actually show she's still stuck at the emotional level of a ten-year-old). Then there's the fact that she defends her kidnapper (is that Stockholm Syndrome or just a performance for the public?), her various excuses for avoiding her parents (there are surely real reasons why she won't see them), and how she immediately follows up one sentence with another just to please the audience—like when she mentioned wanting to party, then quickly added, "but nothing wild, no alcohol or drugs," as if trying to protect her "good girl" image.

At the end of the day, whatever game she's playing, she's playing it because she doesn't know any other way to exist. Regardless of the narrative, it's obvious she had every reason to become this way, and the only real solution now is intensive therapy. Even though recovery is difficult under normal circumstances, given these specific horrors, it's going to be brutal. For both the psychiatrists and for her.
nimblesailor3 nimblesailor3 Newcomer
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#117 ·
salvador2 said:It’s a bad neighborhood by Vienna standards, obviously. But how could a kid from Vienna see it any other way? If you think that area is fine, it just means you're looking at it through a Chicago lens (maybe from somewhere like Oakland). Nothing wrong with that, I suppose.

You've got it wrong.
I live in Vienna, and I know that part of town quite well.
There is nothing bad about it.
Even if it were the worst part of the city (which it isn't), it would still be a decent place to live.

To be clear, I'm not "rooting" for Natascha or against her. I simply have no interest in letting inaccuracies slide.

Someone asked why Natascha's last name is Kampusch when neither parent shares it.
Kampusch was her mother's maiden name.
Walter Myers4 Walter Myers4 Regular
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#118 ·
It’s actually pretty interesting when you look at the facts—her parents split up right when she was only seven.
From that point on, she probably didn't have any kind of consistent male figure to lean on while growing up. On top of that, she was dealing with her mother's constant mood swings and instability every single day.
Honestly, in a situation like that, it’s almost predictable that a young girl would develop these erratic, unpredictable feelings toward any older man who manages to step into her life.
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#119 ·
I was honestly pretty outraged by what I read about her in the papers—but now that I’ve really processed it, it turns out her parents actually divorced right after she was kidnapped!?
Walter Myers4 Walter Myers4 Regular
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#120 ·
Piggy said:I was honestly so horrified reading about her in the Los Angeles Times, but wait—did I get that right? Did her parents actually split up *after* she was kidnapped?!

No, they divorced before that happened.

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