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Kimberly Morris Kimberly Morris Active Member
59 messages
joined Dec 2014
#9721 ·
I know Halea is basically just Sertraline, similar to Zoloft. But does it actually hit the same way as Zoloft?

I'm five months pregnant and my panic attacks have been absolutely brutal lately. My OB-GYN and my psychiatrist finally teamed up and agreed I should start an antidepressant—specifically Zoloft, since it’s supposedly the safest bet. I haven't even taken the first pill yet because I am low-key terrified of how it's going to make me feel.

To make matters worse, my doctor prescribed Haleu instead because Zoloft is totally out of stock everywhere. Now I'm spiraling.
Charles Wright Charles Wright Member
20 messages
joined Jul 2021
#9722 ·
silentpuma3 said:Let’s get one thing straight: we aren't talking about addiction here. We're talking about tolerance. Those are two entirely different concepts. Why does everyone insist on conflating them? It’s a massive distinction. ☕

Antidepressants aren't something you just take for a few weeks and call it a day. You can stay on them for a long time. If you need to? You might even be on them for the rest of your life. Is that such a bad thing? Who's to say?

I was digging through some studies the other day, and honestly, it’s unsettling. There's actual data suggesting that SSRIs can cause brain damage. And don't even get me started on those old tricyclics—they aren't any better. In fact, they seem to be less effective than a damn placebo. How does that even happen?

Did those findings make you want to try getting off antidepressants? How long have you been on them? I guess I'm curious about what your plan is for tapering off. I'm asking because I've been thinking about trying to live without Prozac myself. About three years ago, I managed to stay off all medication for three months, but I ended up relapsing during my first major crisis. It really isn't easy. I think you probably need to prepare very thoroughly, get organized, and make sure you have all the support you can get. Maybe a support group would help, something similar to Alcoholics Anonymous or groups for people coming off harder drugs. I'm being serious about this.

By the way, how do you figure tricyclic antidepressants are less effective than a placebo? I haven't had that experience personally. I still think those older antidepressants, depending on the individual, can be quite effective at managing depression symptoms.
Raymond Ortiz69 Raymond Ortiz69 Member
20 messages
joined Jan 2015
#9723 ·
Hey everyone,

So, I finally got officially diagnosed with anxiety and depression last week, and I actually started my medication yesterday.

By the way, I honestly thought the diagnosis would be clinical depression plus panic disorder—mostly because I feel like I check every single box in the manual—but it turns out they prescribed me an antidepressant specifically for clinical depression, which I guess just covers everything? Like a 2-in-1 deal?

Anyway, my new little companion is called Valdoxan (25 mg). It’s agomelatine, which is basically to paraphrase the medical jargon: / it stimulates melatonin receptors while blocking the ones that usually activate serotonin, which eventually leads to a boost in dopamine and norepinephrine in the mood-regulating part of the brain.
At least, that's what it says. You should probably look it up yourselves though! 😁
To be honest, I'm still a little fuzzy on whether it actually affects serotonin levels directly by making more available, or if it works differently.

I haven't found much personal experience online regarding Valdoxan, so I figured I'd report back here and let you all know how it goes. From what I've gathered, reviews range from "this is life-changing" to "complete waste of money." So... I guess we'll see. The main thing is that it doesn't fall into the usual categories like an SSRI or SNRI.

It's also pretty pricey. Even with Medicare covering some of it, I ended up paying about $33 for a month's supply.

The big concern seems to be its potential impact on the liver, so I'm really crossing my fingers that everything stays healthy there. Aside from that, it's supposedly not supposed to have many significant side effects.

Oh, and apparently, it isn't addictive—the literature says you can just stop taking it without having to do a slow taper.

As far as I can tell, it's mainly used in Europe (and I think Australia too), and while it started rolling out in the US a few years ago, I couldn't find any definitive info on its status here... at least not easily.

My doctor also noted Insomnia on my chart, though my real struggle isn't necessarily sleeping too little, it's just that my brain refuses to shut off at night, then suddenly kicks into high gear early in the morning. I get enough hours, technically... but the quality is off. That's why I was given Valdoxan, since I take one 25 mg tablet right before bed. The melatonin component should help reset my circadian rhythm.

I took it yesterday, and wow, within ten minutes I was yawning, and then I slept like a baby. I had absolutely no idea what was happening around me—no crazy dreams, no nightmares, no tossing and turning. Just a perfectly normal wake-up when my alarm went off... So, hey, at least that's a win to start with.

Oh, right, I'm also taking 1mg of Lorsilan (once in the morning and once at night). This morning was a total fog; I had to head out and take the bus, and I felt like a complete zombie stumbling through the day. Does anyone know if there's an adjustment period for benzodiazepines where the body gets used to them and that initial "brain fog" starts to lift?

Sending love to you all,
😉
Michael Hill2 Michael Hill2 Active Member
168 messages
joined Jul 2014
#9724 ·
I don't know. Maybe? Honestly, I’m just sitting here staring at my screen, trying to make sense of all this. It's a lot. Sometimes you just have to take a second to breathe and realize that none of this is as simple as it looks on paper. Just my two cents. Or maybe just a few cents. Whatever. kaže:
Hey everyone, what's up?

So, last week I finally got hit with that anxiety-depression diagnosis. Just my luck, right? Anyway, I officially started the meds yesterday.

So, I went into this thinking the diagnosis would be clinical depression plus panic disorder—mostly because I was checking off every single symptom in the manual like it was a damn grocery list—but turns out my doctor just prescribed an antidepressant specifically for clinical depression. I guess that’s supposed to cover everything? Like some kind of 2-in-1 deal? Or am I overthinking it?

Well, here we go. I've got a new friend. Trintellix So, we're looking at 25 mg. That's agomelatine, right? Or whatever it's called.I'm paraphrasing some technical text here:It basically hits those melatonin receptors, blocks the ones that usually kick serotonin into gear, and then—presto—you get this surge of dopamine and norepinephrine right where your brain handles mood. Simple enough, I guess.
Maybe. But you should probably check this out. 😁
I’m still not entirely sure I follow. Are we talking about it actually boosting serotonin levels—like, making more of it available in the system—or is that not quite how it works?

There isn’t much out there online regarding Trintellix, so I figured I'd just document my own experience as I go. Most of what I've managed to dig up ranges from "this is life-changing" to "complete waste of time." So... yeah. It seems like a total roll of the dice. The main thing to keep in mind is that it doesn't fall under the usual Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor or SNRI categories. It's doing its own thing.

It’s pretty pricey, honestly. Even with Medicare covering a chunk of it, I still ended up shelling out about... $33 Just enough to cover me for the month.

His biggest headache is the potential impact on his liver, so I’m really crossing my fingers that doesn't turn into an issue. Aside from that, he supposedly shouldn't have any other major side effects to deal with.

Yeah, and apparently there's no addiction factor either—they claim you can just quit cold turkey without having to deal with any kind of slow taper.

From what I can gather, it’s mostly used over in Europe and I think Australia too. It actually hit the market in the US a few years back, but it hasn't quite caught on here yet—at least, I couldn't find anything to confirm that.

My psych gave me an official diagnosis of Insomnia, but honestly, that’s not even the main issue. It's more like my brain refuses to shut down at night, only to kick into high gear the second the sun comes up. It's not that I'm getting zero sleep or anything—just not enough to function. Anyway, they put me on Trintellix, just one 25 mg pill before bed. Apparently, adding some melatonin should help get my circadian rhythm back on track.

Took it yesterday and, honestly, within ten minutes I was yawning like crazy. Ended up sleeping like a baby—didn't dream about anything weird, no nightmares, no tossing and turning all night. Just woke up naturally when my alarm went off. Well, at least that’s a win to start with.

Yeah, plus I’m on 1mg of Lustral (morning and night). Honestly, this morning was a total wash. I had to head out today, hopped on the subway, and felt like a complete zombie just stumbling around. Is there actually an adjustment period with benzodiazepines? Like, does the brain eventually get used to them so this constant brain fog finally clears up?

Hey everyone.
😉

Interesting Ad. I haven't really dug into much about it yet, honestly. Keep me posted on how things are going for you. 🙂

Since you take that antidepressant at night, I’m guessing it hits you a little hard—kind of like how Faverin does. That probably explains why they prescribe it for anxiety when you can't sleep either.

Look, that Lustral is really just a temporary bridge to help you weather the initial side effects of the antidepressant. Benzodiazepines aren't actually a long-term fix; they’re just a tool to blunt the edge of anxiety and panic attacks while things settle down. You shouldn't be popping them for more than six weeks straight—the addiction potential is real, and trust me, nobody wants to go down that road.

My advice? Don't go taking it twice a day. Just save it for when you actually need it—you know, those moments when the anxiety really starts to claw at you. I mean, honestly, it won't kill you if you take it twice daily at first while you're settling in, but if you don't strictly need it, better to keep it in your back pocket for when things get rough.
The body gets used to that "fuzzy" feeling pretty fast. I’m thinking within a week of steady use, you probably wouldn't even feel that grogginess or sleepiness anymore.

Best of luck to you. 🙂

🙂
Raymond Ortiz69 Raymond Ortiz69 Member
20 messages
joined Jan 2015
#9725 ·
Michael Hill2 said:
I don't know. Maybe? Honestly, I’m just sitting here staring at my screen, trying to make sense of all this. It's a lot. Sometimes you just have to take a second to breathe and realize that none of this is as simple as it looks on paper. Just my two cents. Or maybe just a few cents. Whatever. kaže:
Hey everyone, what's up?

So, last week I finally got hit with that anxiety-depression diagnosis. Just my luck, right? Anyway, I officially started the meds yesterday.

So, I went into this thinking the diagnosis would be clinical depression plus panic disorder—mostly because I was checking off every single symptom in the manual like it was a damn grocery list—but turns out my doctor just prescribed an antidepressant specifically for clinical depression. I guess that’s supposed to cover everything? Like some kind of 2-in-1 deal? Or am I overthinking it?

Well, here we go. I've got a new friend. Trintellix So, we're looking at 25 mg. That's agomelatine, right? Or whatever it's called.I'm paraphrasing some technical text here:It basically hits those melatonin receptors, blocks the ones that usually kick serotonin into gear, and then—presto—you get this surge of dopamine and norepinephrine right where your brain handles mood. Simple enough, I guess.
Maybe. But you should probably check this out. 😁
I’m still not entirely sure I follow. Are we talking about it actually boosting serotonin levels—like, making more of it available in the system—or is that not quite how it works?

There isn’t much out there online regarding Trintellix, so I figured I'd just document my own experience as I go. Most of what I've managed to dig up ranges from "this is life-changing" to "complete waste of time." So... yeah. It seems like a total roll of the dice. The main thing to keep in mind is that it doesn't fall under the usual Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor or SNRI categories. It's doing its own thing.

It’s pretty pricey, honestly. Even with Medicare covering a chunk of it, I still ended up shelling out about... $33 Just enough to cover me for the month.

His biggest headache is the potential impact on his liver, so I’m really crossing my fingers that doesn't turn into an issue. Aside from that, he supposedly shouldn't have any other major side effects to deal with.

Yeah, and apparently there's no addiction factor either—they claim you can just quit cold turkey without having to deal with any kind of slow taper.

From what I can gather, it’s mostly used over in Europe and I think Australia too. It actually hit the market in the US a few years back, but it hasn't quite caught on here yet—at least, I couldn't find anything to confirm that.

My psych gave me an official diagnosis of Insomnia, but honestly, that’s not even the main issue. It's more like my brain refuses to shut down at night, only to kick into high gear the second the sun comes up. It's not that I'm getting zero sleep or anything—just not enough to function. Anyway, they put me on Trintellix, just one 25 mg pill before bed. Apparently, adding some melatonin should help get my circadian rhythm back on track.

Took it yesterday and, honestly, within ten minutes I was yawning like crazy. Ended up sleeping like a baby—didn't dream about anything weird, no nightmares, no tossing and turning all night. Just woke up naturally when my alarm went off. Well, at least that’s a win to start with.

Yeah, plus I’m on 1mg of Lustral (morning and night). Honestly, this morning was a total wash. I had to head out today, hopped on the subway, and felt like a complete zombie just stumbling around. Is there actually an adjustment period with benzodiazepines? Like, does the brain eventually get used to them so this constant brain fog finally clears up?

Hey everyone.
😉

Interesting Ad. I haven't really dug into much about it yet, honestly. Keep me posted on how things are going for you. 🙂

Since you take that antidepressant at night, I’m guessing it hits you a little hard—kind of like how Faverin does. That probably explains why they prescribe it for anxiety when you can't sleep either.

Look, that Lustral is really just a temporary bridge to help you weather the initial side effects of the antidepressant. Benzodiazepines aren't actually a long-term fix; they’re just a tool to blunt the edge of anxiety and panic attacks while things settle down. You shouldn't be popping them for more than six weeks straight—the addiction potential is real, and trust me, nobody wants to go down that road.

My advice? Don't go taking it twice a day. Just save it for when you actually need it—you know, those moments when the anxiety really starts to claw at you. I mean, honestly, it won't kill you if you take it twice daily at first while you're settling in, but if you don't strictly need it, better to keep it in your back pocket for when things get rough.
The body gets used to that "fuzzy" feeling pretty fast. I’m thinking within a week of steady use, you probably wouldn't even feel that grogginess or sleepiness anymore.

Best of luck to you. 🙂

🙂

Yeah, Trintellix definitely has a sedative quality; basically, the melatonin causes a very rapid "shut down" in the brain...

I tried using Sweet Dreams (Enzo) before, which is essentially melatonin, and it was the same story: about ten minutes in, I’d start yawning uncontrollably and then it was straight to bed for me.
The one issue was that Sweet Dreams always gave me a headache the next morning, so I ended up stopping. At one point, I was also drinking St. John's Wort tea (back when I was trying to tackle my depression on my own), and I actually asked on Enzo if it was safe to take Sweet Dreams at the same time since my brain stays so hyperactive at night—they told me not to. Looking back, it makes total sense, because it seems like the melatonin and serotonin receptors share some similarities, so it would be a bit like taking an antidepressant (like St. John's Wort) alongside something that works in a similar way (melatonin). At least, that's my understanding of it, anyway.🤷

I've been prescribed Zoloft once in the morning (1mg) and once at night (1mg). I'll stick to the instructions for now, as I assume it'll take a few days for my system to settle into the effects.

I'll be sure to post updates here to let everyone know how it's going. I actually wrote a slightly longer post over in the Depressive-Anxiety Disorder thread, so I'll be popping in and out of there quite a bit.
Honestly, everyone here on Psych Couch seems so incredibly normal; so much of what people say feels familiar, and I feel like I can really relate to what's being written.😁

Thank You 🙂
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Dec 2008
#9726 ·
Raymond Ortiz69 said:Hey everyone,

So, I finally got officially diagnosed with anxiety and depression last week, and I actually started my medication yesterday.

By the way, I honestly thought the diagnosis would be clinical depression plus panic disorder—mostly because I feel like I check every single box in the manual—but it turns out they prescribed me an antidepressant specifically for clinical depression, which I guess just covers everything? Like a 2-in-1 deal?

Anyway, my new little companion is called Valdoxan (25 mg). It’s agomelatine, which is basically to paraphrase the medical jargon: / it stimulates melatonin receptors while blocking the ones that usually activate serotonin, which eventually leads to a boost in dopamine and norepinephrine in the mood-regulating part of the brain.
At least, that's what it says. You should probably look it up yourselves though! 😁
To be honest, I'm still a little fuzzy on whether it actually affects serotonin levels directly by making more available, or if it works differently.

I haven't found much personal experience online regarding Valdoxan, so I figured I'd report back here and let you all know how it goes. From what I've gathered, reviews range from "this is life-changing" to "complete waste of money." So... I guess we'll see. The main thing is that it doesn't fall into the usual categories like an SSRI or SNRI.

It's also pretty pricey. Even with Medicare covering some of it, I ended up paying about $33 for a month's supply.

The big concern seems to be its potential impact on the liver, so I'm really crossing my fingers that everything stays healthy there. Aside from that, it's supposedly not supposed to have many significant side effects.

Oh, and apparently, it isn't addictive—the literature says you can just stop taking it without having to do a slow taper.

As far as I can tell, it's mainly used in Europe (and I think Australia too), and while it started rolling out in the US a few years ago, I couldn't find any definitive info on its status here... at least not easily.

My doctor also noted Insomnia on my chart, though my real struggle isn't necessarily sleeping too little, it's just that my brain refuses to shut off at night, then suddenly kicks into high gear early in the morning. I get enough hours, technically... but the quality is off. That's why I was given Valdoxan, since I take one 25 mg tablet right before bed. The melatonin component should help reset my circadian rhythm.

I took it yesterday, and wow, within ten minutes I was yawning, and then I slept like a baby. I had absolutely no idea what was happening around me—no crazy dreams, no nightmares, no tossing and turning. Just a perfectly normal wake-up when my alarm went off... So, hey, at least that's a win to start with.

Oh, right, I'm also taking 1mg of Lorsilan (once in the morning and once at night). This morning was a total fog; I had to head out and take the bus, and I felt like a complete zombie stumbling through the day. Does anyone know if there's an adjustment period for benzodiazepines where the body gets used to them and that initial "brain fog" starts to lift?

Sending love to you all,
😉

Here are some links, just in case you haven't had a chance to look them over yet😉
experiences with trintellix1
experiences with trintellix2
http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/...C500046227.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0061425/
http://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g1888
http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/us_US/...C500046224.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agomelatine

more info on Zoloft over here
Michael Hill2 Michael Hill2 Active Member
168 messages
joined Jul 2014
#9727 ·
Raymond Ortiz69 said:Yeah, Trintellix definitely has a sedative quality; basically, the melatonin causes a very rapid "shut down" in the brain...

I tried using Sweet Dreams (Enzo) before, which is essentially melatonin, and it was the same story: about ten minutes in, I’d start yawning uncontrollably and then it was straight to bed for me.
The one issue was that Sweet Dreams always gave me a headache the next morning, so I ended up stopping. At one point, I was also drinking St. John's Wort tea (back when I was trying to tackle my depression on my own), and I actually asked on Enzo if it was safe to take Sweet Dreams at the same time since my brain stays so hyperactive at night—they told me not to. Looking back, it makes total sense, because it seems like the melatonin and serotonin receptors share some similarities, so it would be a bit like taking an antidepressant (like St. John's Wort) alongside something that works in a similar way (melatonin). At least, that's my understanding of it, anyway.🤷

I've been prescribed Zoloft once in the morning (1mg) and once at night (1mg). I'll stick to the instructions for now, as I assume it'll take a few days for my system to settle into the effects.

I'll be sure to post updates here to let everyone know how it's going. I actually wrote a slightly longer post over in the Depressive-Anxiety Disorder thread, so I'll be popping in and out of there quite a bit.
Honestly, everyone here on Psych Couch seems so incredibly normal; so much of what people say feels familiar, and I feel like I can really relate to what's being written.😁

Thank You 🙂

It surprised me a year ago too, how the most mentally stable and level-headed group on these forums is actually the crew here on Psych Couch. 😁

I caught your other post. My psychiatrist reckons that with anxiety-depressive disorder, the depression actually stems from the anxiety. So, you have to tackle the anxiety first to eventually dial down the intensity of the depression.

You're going to be fine. You remind me of myself a year ago. Just stay patient; antidepressants need time to kick in. Don't lose hope if nothing happens after a month. When anxiety is baked into the disorder, it takes a little longer to see results. In my experience, it took about a month and a half.

So, just take it slow. If you want private CBT, I have a recommendation, and for social stuff, I heard they started doing CBT at Massachusetts General, but the waiting list is insane. If you're thinking about going there, sign up ASAP.🙂
Raymond Ortiz69 Raymond Ortiz69 Member
20 messages
joined Jan 2015
#9728 ·
fadedbear92 said:Here are some links, just in case you haven't had a chance to look them over yet😉
experiences with trintellix1
experiences with trintellix2
http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/...C500046227.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0061425/
http://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g1888
http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/us_US/...C500046224.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agomelatine

more info on Zoloft over here

Heh, I've read bits and pieces, for sure... definitely bookmarked!

Thank You 🙂

So, just to give you an update, I took my evening dose of Zoloft a little while ago, and then I just popped my Trintellix about ten minutes before sitting down to write this. Honestly, as I'm typing this out, I can barely even see the screen—I'm yawning so much you'd think I hadn't slept in days.
I better head to bed before I start typing complete nonsense🥱
LP
copperpuma62 copperpuma62 Member
10 messages
joined Aug 2014
#9729 ·
Has anyone here dealt with tapering off Effexor while switching over to Zoloft at the same time? I’m currently on 75mg of Effexor and half a 50mg pill of Zoloft... I feel like absolute garbage, my blood pressure dropped, and I'm just totally lost right now.
silentpuma3 silentpuma3 Member
17 messages
joined Feb 2015
#9730 ·
Raymond Ortiz69 said:Heh, I've read bits and pieces, for sure... definitely bookmarked!

Thank You 🙂

So, just to give you an update, I took my evening dose of Zoloft a little while ago, and then I just popped my Trintellix about ten minutes before sitting down to write this. Honestly, as I'm typing this out, I can barely even see the screen—I'm yawning so much you'd think I hadn't slept in days.
I better head to bed before I start typing complete nonsense🥱
LP

My issue was that because of the meds, I felt exhausted all day long, even when I was getting ten hours of sleep. Every single time I woke up, it was just pure brain fog, weakness, and total disorientation...
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Dec 2008
#9731 ·
unspecified
copperpuma62 said:Has anyone here dealt with tapering off Effexor while switching over to Zoloft at the same time? I’m currently on 75mg of Effexor and half a 50mg pill of Zoloft... I feel like absolute garbage, my blood pressure dropped, and I'm just totally lost right now.

What kind of instructions did your doctor give you for the taper—or are you just winging it?
Normally, I'm dropping the dose by a quarter every three or four days.
Raymond Ortiz69 Raymond Ortiz69 Member
20 messages
joined Jan 2015
#9732 ·
silentpuma3 said:My issue was that because of the meds, I felt exhausted all day long, even when I was getting ten hours of sleep. Every single time I woke up, it was just pure brain fog, weakness, and total disorientation...

Hmm, I'm really not sure, since I've only just started (today is actually only my fourth day on these meds).
The antidepressant I'm taking (Trintellix 25 mg) knocks me out in about 10 minutes, and then I wake up feeling totally fine after 7 or 8 hours of rest, without that heavy "cotton wool" sensation in my head. Though, I suppose that's exactly what it's supposed to do..

My main issue right now is my morning dose of unspecified (1mg), which calms me down a little *too* effectively. I guess that's kind of the whole point, given how terrible my anxiety has been, and being on unspecified these past few days has actually been wonderful in the sense that panic attacks aren't tearing me apart, but shortly after I take it, I feel incredibly drowsy and just... shaky. Plus, for about an hour or two, I get these chills, almost like my blood pressure has suddenly dropped (which, if you check the side effects, is actually listed there). Hopefully, this should settle down once my body gets used to it. I'm really hoping so, because as much as I love feeling relaxed—I'd almost forgotten what that feels like!—this mental fuzziness makes it a bit hard to focus on work, so... I guess I'll just see how things look next week.

It's funny how differently we all react to medication; it's so incredibly individual. Personally, I tend to be sensitive even to tiny doses of "basic" stuff like Aspirin, and everything just makes me sleepy, yet with some other "stronger" medications, I can basically swallow them like they're Gatorade candies and feel absolutely nothing. Who knows? We're all just unique individuals when it comes to this stuff.
silentpuma3 silentpuma3 Member
17 messages
joined Feb 2015
#9733 ·
But let's be honest: meds never actually tackle the root cause, they just mask the symptoms... And that's fundamentally flawed.
copperpuma62 copperpuma62 Member
10 messages
joined Aug 2014
#9734 ·
fadedbear92 said:unspecified

What kind of instructions did your doctor give you for the taper—or are you just winging it?
Normally, I'm dropping the dose by a quarter every three or four days.

My doctor told me to do it this way. I was on 150mg of Trintellix, but now I'm sticking with 75mg of Zoloft for a bit, at least until the Zoloft actually kicks in.🙂
Raymond Ortiz69 Raymond Ortiz69 Member
20 messages
joined Jan 2015
#9735 ·
silentpuma3 said:But let's be honest: meds never actually tackle the root cause, they just mask the symptoms... And that's fundamentally flawed.

Well, they definitely ease those symptoms—or even wipe them out entirely—which finally gives you enough breathing room to actually engage with phase two, you know, doing the actual heavy lifting on yourself through things like psychotherapy and all that...

For example, about two years ago, I stumbled upon this amazing CBT workbook that I thought might be my ticket to feeling better, so I dove right in. I was honestly pretty shocked when I realized just how much damage those "negative thought patterns" were actually doing to my headspace... But then, life happened, and I had to stop because my depression hit me with everything it had. It felt like being swallowed by a black hole where no amount of self-help books or wise advice could touch me. If I hadn't had to show up for work every day, I probably wouldn't have even left my apartment. And all of this was happening before I’d even seen a doctor, back when I couldn't quite admit to myself that I needed professional help—you know, thinking there wasn't some magic chocolate bar that could just fix my messy brain chemistry. Fast forward to now, and I'm finally seeing these tiny, step-by-step improvements, and honestly, it's almost entirely thanks to the medication.

In my own experience, I look at medication like a springboard. It’s kind of like being in gym class—without that spring to give you a little boost, you’re just going to run headfirst into a wall. But with that extra momentum, you can actually clear the hurdle, even if it takes a little practice. Only after you've cleared that jump can you move on to the rest of the workout (which is phase two: the "work on yourself" part).
I know that's a huge oversimplification, but it's the only way I can make sense of it all in my head. 😉
silentpuma3 silentpuma3 Member
17 messages
joined Feb 2015
#9736 ·
Who knows? Honestly, medications were nothing more than a flat plank to me... and not even a springboard. Just a plain, boring piece of wood that ended up backfiring and completely wrecked my head. 😁

If you ask me, the best kind of springboard is actually having a solid support system around you—like good friends. But fine, I guess that's going off-topic.
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
656 messages
joined Feb 2010
#9737 ·
Look, I’ve got all the support in the world from my family and friends, but without my meds? I'm basically nothing. Zero. I'm completely non-functional and honestly right on the edge of needing to take medical leave from work.
Raymond Ortiz69 Raymond Ortiz69 Member
20 messages
joined Jan 2015
#9738 ·
silentpuma3 said:Who knows? Honestly, medications were nothing more than a flat plank to me... and not even a springboard. Just a plain, boring piece of wood that ended up backfiring and completely wrecked my head. 😁

If you ask me, the best kind of springboard is actually having a solid support system around you—like good friends. But fine, I guess that's going off-topic.

Anyway, look, I'm just at the very beginning of this whole journey, so we'll just have to wait and see if this stuff actually helps me bounce back or if it's just going to be another heavy plank cracking my already somewhat scrambled brain. 😵

(Most of the people in my "inner circle" give me advice that makes me want to grab the first available plank and just knock myself out immediately 🤦 ... yeah, sorry, getting off topic again, I'll stop now.)
silentpuma3 silentpuma3 Member
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joined Feb 2015
#9739 ·
My brain fog finally lifted after I completely stepped away from all my medications. I also overhauled my entire diet—cut out the sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and all that processed junk. Throw in enough sleep, staying hydrated, and just avoiding people and content that trigger stress... it actually worked.

I know I can’t really fix the hand I was dealt with bad genetics, but let's be honest, nothing else would have made a long-term difference anyway...
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
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joined Feb 2010
#9740 ·
silentpuma3 said:My brain fog finally lifted after I completely stepped away from all my medications. I also overhauled my entire diet—cut out the sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and all that processed junk. Throw in enough sleep, staying hydrated, and just avoiding people and content that trigger stress... it actually worked.

I know I can’t really fix the hand I was dealt with bad genetics, but let's be honest, nothing else would have made a long-term difference anyway...

Since you used bold, I'm gonna assume you aren't currently doing 😁

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