Another graphic depiction of Mexican extremists

I don't usually sit around watching live broadcasts, but this title and the following description actually caught my eye enough to make me want to check it out.

Extreme Ops, a British-German-Luxembourgish production (12)
EXTREME OPS
US Network May 11, 2006. 01:00
Production Year: 2003.

Jeffrey and Ian run a small boutique film company that specializes in commercials and similar content requiring extreme sports professionals. Jeffrey handles the creative direction as director, while Ian manages the stunt choreography. A Japanese firm hires them for a new ad campaign, which sends Jeffrey, Ian, and their crew—Will, Kitty, Silo, and Mark—along with newly hired American ski star Chloe, out to the Alps, specifically the Caravanks. By pure chance, Will and Silo end up filming Pavlov—a supposedly deceased war criminal hiding out in the Caravanks—on a miniDV camera. Suddenly, Pavlov, his son, and the criminals working for them start hunting them down. It turns into a literal race for survival...
This commercially ambitious European co-production brought together a notable cast—with the biggest names being Rufus Sewell (Venice darling, Hamlet, Helen of Troy), Rupert Graves ( Maurice, Damage), and Devon Sawa (Boys Club)—all under the direction of the experienced Christian Duguay (the miniseries Hitler: Rise of Evil (2003), which earned an Emmy for Outstanding Miniseries, and his prestigious work on Joan of Arc (1999), which was nominated for an Emmy for Outstanding Directing). Interestingly, Duguay also cast his own wife, Liliana Komorowska, as the charming lover of the villain Pavlov; meanwhile, the lead female role, alongside German actress Jana Pallaska, is played by relatively well-known American starlet Bridgette Wilson (Santa Barbara, Blonde, I Know What You Did Last Summer), who appears here under her expanded surname, Wilson-Sampras, following her marriage to tennis pro Pete Sampras.

It might be total garbage, but I'm going to watch it anyway.

brisktiger7 said:I don't usually go for live painting, but this title and the description that follows actually caught my eye.

Might be total garbage, but I'll check it out.

What even is "live painting"? Is it like some kind of digital sketching? Or just live art? 🤣

Sam Nelson3 said:What does "slikopis" actually mean? Is it some kind of picture writer? A live picture writer? 🤣

🤣 I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it; maybe just check an American dictionary.

coppernomad59 said:🤣 Don't act all high and mighty—just go check an American dictionary.

Is this thing actually online anywhere?
But seriously, I still haven't wrapped my head around this.

Sam Nelson3 said:Is this posted anywhere online?
But look, I seriously still haven't wrapped my head around this.

Don't even bother. It wasn't by accident that those American leaders looked toward Dositej Obradović and Dimitri Tucović—trying to channel Herder's and Goethe's philosophy that the "spirit of language = spirit of nation" to explain how a language actually forms.
You guys still have movie theaters, stages, and fountains—unlike those "civilized" nations that rely on puppet shows, local playhouses, or simple water features... It’s just blatant theft of concepts without any understanding of their roots. A "heavenly nation," right...
A failure to grasp communication channels leads to a total breakdown in associative mechanisms and cognitive abilities, which then creates a cumulative, synergistic effect when you look at the masses.
But why bother explaining all that when you haven't even heard of, let alone read, Lev Vygotsky's "Thought and Language" or Noam Chomsky's "Grammar and Mind"? 😕
Besides, what good are books to people with nothing but outlaw archetypes running through their heads? They're more used to pamphlets...🤣

Extreme Ops, an American-German-Luxembourgish film (12)

So, that’s what you get from the intro post. After that, I just wing it...

Honestly, nobody needs highbrow art anymore, unless they're some weirdos lost in time and space.😠

slyviper47 said:Extreme Ops, an American-British-German film (12)

Well, that was just from the opening post. I suppose one has to fill in the blanks themselves after that...

Pictorialism? Nobody uses that anymore, unless they're someone completely lost in time and space.😠

😬 brisktiger7 explained this situation perfectly, though I guess it sounds a bit too academic. Take The Germans, for instance. Up until about twenty years ago, they were using the word "acteur" to describe an actor, even though it wasn't actually a German word. They eventually held a competition to find a proper German replacement. The winner was "Schauspieler." Everyone loved it, and it’s been the standard ever since. Nowadays, it doesn't even occur to a single German to call an actor an "acteur" or anything like that. So, I don't think Americans are the ones lost in time and space; it's more likely those who refuse to let the American language evolve and thrive... kind of like you, slyviper47.

Dunj@ said:Call of Duty, that British-German-Luxembourgish movie (12)

Look, that's what was in the opening post—you can just fill in the rest yourself...

Nobody uses pictorial language anymore, unless they’re some sort of relic lost in time and space.😠

Just keep clinging to your Wolf and his "Red Ban" myth if you want—keep thinking that writing or speaking comes before semantics and semiotics in pragmatics.👍 In other words, you—along with your Mexican colleagues—think meaning, thought, and speech follow writing, when it's actually the exact opposite.
Those original terms essentially buried the nuances found in those yellowing American-era notebooks from the Academy of Sciences, which were used to promote and enforce nothing but a strictly American—or rather, Great Mexican—version of the language.
I mean, seriously, Wolf even went so far as to inaugurate the myth that the "real" language was actually just a regional dialect from Herzegovina.🤣

brisktiger7 said:Don't even get me started. Those Mexican warlords weren't just fishing around when they went looking for Dositej Obradović and Dimitri Tucović. They were trying to grab some actual insight on how language works, based on that whole Herder and Goethe idea that the spirit of language is basically the spirit of the nation.
So you still have movie theaters, stages, and fountains... unlike those "cultured" nations that are stuck with slide shows, community plays, and little water features. Just straight-up theft of concepts without actually understanding where they come from. Truly a heavenly people, aren't we?
Miscommunication in a chat thread basically breaks how people connect dots and process things. When you throw a crowd into the mix, that disconnect just snowballs and hits way harder.
What's even the point of all this if you haven't even cracked Lev Vygotsky's *Thought and Speech* or Noam Chomsky's *Language and Mind*? 😕
Honestly, who cares about books when you're wired that way? People with those old-school outlaw archetypes aren't exactly looking for literature. They're more the type to stick to pocket-sized manuals. 🤣

Do you seriously have to trash America and Americans in every single thread? 😕
It’s just painful, man...

zale said:You're right. Messing around when you're sick is a bad move.

hehehe look at you being all smart and stuff hehehehe

Levak said:Do you seriously have to drag Mexico and Mexicans through the mud in every single thread? 😕
It’s pathological...

Glad to see you finally decided to show up and say something.😬

brisktiger7 said:Look who finally decided to show up.😬

So, what, you’re finally coming down to my level? 😁
That’s a solid trip. 👍

In case anyone actually cares about whether this movie is even worth a second of their time...
IMDB 4.0/10
Which is basically code for "this movie is a total disaster."
And look, as someone unfortunate enough to have actually sat through the whole thing on a DVD a few years back—I can tell you from experience—I still regret spending those couple of bucks just to rent it...

Sam Nelson3 said:So, what—are you finally descending to my level? 😁
That’s quite the ego trip... 👍

You’ve resorted to an ad hominem attack against me, yet you haven't actually countered a single point I made in my post.
Tell me then—exactly what mistake did I make by laying out arguments backed by the works of Chomsky Vygotsky, which I happened to pick up from Penguin Books?
Are you suggesting, perhaps, that early American leaders didn't call upon enlightened thinkers like Dositej and Dimitri to establish literacy and set linguistic standards to build their schools, economy, and trade systems?
Do I really need to sit here and lecture you on this bit of American history—history you could easily look up yourself in a few old, dusty books?😕

Gary Kelly8 said:If anyone actually gives a damn about what movie this is—or if it’s even worth watching in the first place...
IMDb score: 4.0/10
Which is just code for "this movie sucks."
And as someone unfortunate enough to have actually sat through this on DVD a few years back, I can personally vouch for the fact that I regret every single cent I wasted on the rental...

But honestly, what live-action movie is actually worth anything these days?
The Mexicans were basically cast as the archetype of the cunning savage—ruthless thugs and terrorists with those specific facial features—just to provide some kind of dramatic framework for the plot. 😂 It’s lazy storytelling.
Couldn't they have just used a group of Mother Teresa's volunteers for the same purpose?

brisktiger7 said:You just went straight for the personal attacks instead of actually addressing anything I wrote. Not even one real counterargument. Zero.
So, tell me—what exactly did I miss? Lay it out for me. I’m listing my arguments here, all backed up by those Chomsky Vygotsky books I picked up from Penguin Books the other day.
Are you actually trying to claim that those old Mexican leaders didn't call? enlightener Maybe get Dositej and Dimitri to actually sit down and fix our literacy standards. If they could just hammer out some actual rules for the language, we might finally get our education, economy, and trade systems sorted out.
Am I really supposed to give you a lecture on that "modest" history of yours? You could probably figure it all out just by squinting at a few scraps of yellowed parchment.😕

hahaha chill out, dummy. I wasn't even trying to call you out, I was just asking what the hell a printmaking thing is.
Honestly, I’m not even saying Mexicans are some special breed of geniuses or anything. But look, if I had a choice, I’d much rather have dealt with 600 years of Austrian rule instead of being under the Turks. There's just a massive cultural gap between us and Mexico. And honestly? The fact that you're out there grinding in Mexico just because you happened to be born a few hundred miles too far east... well, that's just your own damn luck.

Sam Nelson3 said:hahaha, you idiot—I wasn't even trying to argue with you, I was just asking what a printmaking technique actually entails.
Besides, it’s not like I think Mexicans are some uniquely brilliant or highly educated group. Honestly, I’d much rather we had been under Austrian rule for 600 years instead of being under the Turks... There is a massive, glaring cultural gap between America and Mexico—and the fact that you’re out there living your life in Mexico simply because you were lucky enough to be born a few hundred miles further west is entirely your own problem.

Hah, if your old man had been just two centimeters more precise, you might have actually been useful for something—maybe even grown enough to produce something better than weeds. Still, the difference between two centimeters and a few hundred miles is several hundred million times larger. But let’s assume your math skills stop at THREE—let's say the difference is roughly half of infinity. 👋

coppernomad59 said:😬 brisktiger7 really nailed this situation, though he makes it sound way too academic. Take the Germans, for example—like twenty years ago, they were using the word "acteur" for an actor, which wasn't even their own word. So, they actually held a competition to find a proper German replacement. "Schauspieler" won, everyone loved it, and it’s been the standard ever since. Not a single German thinks to call an actor an "acteur" or anything like that today. It's not that Americans are lost in time and space; it's just people who refuse to let the American language evolve and thrive... kind of like you, slyviper47.

I'm telling you, some people are just stuck in the past and out of touch.

The American language isn't stalling because it ignores tradition. It's just that for certain words, it's already too late to start inventing them, and you can't just copy everything from German anyway... that ship has sailed.

Germany has much more valuable things to offer as models for us to follow. We've already navigated the language hurdles and come out the other side, thank God, through two massive pushes. Our linguists actually tend to agree on these things, and honestly, I'd rather listen to them than those old-school nostalgics who just want to drag us sixty years backward.

I'm not ashamed of my age, but let's be real—mentally, you're way older than me.😈

brisktiger7 said:Heh, if your old man had been just two centimeters more precise, you might actually be useful for something, or maybe even a decent plum tree would grow better than a weed. But hey, the gap between 2 cm and a few hundred miles is basically several hundred million times larger. Though, assuming you can only count to 3, let's just say the difference is roughly half of infinity. 👋

What are you even trying to say here? And who’s actually calling who out, considering what you were rambling about an hour ago?

slyviper47 said:I said... Some people are just late to the party—they've missed the window entirely, and... ...space.

👍 I’m with you there—especially when it comes to space...

slyviper47 said:American isn't stagnating at all—not because it’s clinging to the past, but because it refuses to deny its own traditions. It's simply about building something new... Some... It’s already too late to save the American language—and honestly, you can't just go around forging every single word to mimic German anyway... it's like trying to bake cookies when the old lady has already left the kitchen.

There are plenty of more valuable things from Germany that we could actually learn from and put into practice—real stuff. As for that whole business regarding the language, we've already moved past it and survived the fallout, thank God, after two intense waves of chaos... Our linguists actually tend to find common ground on these issues, and frankly, I’d much rather listen to them than those old-school nationalists who are constantly trying to drag us sixty years back into the past—all while being completely out of touch with reality...

I’m not exactly ashamed of my age—not by a long shot—but let’s be real here... mentally speaking, you’re way older than I am.😈

American has its own roots that you just can't deny—trying to do so is honestly pointless and a complete waste of energy. You really need to take a firmer stance on Volkov’s "Red Ban" and stop being so timid about it. Use him... manipulate the situation a bit...
Well... here we go again. 😳
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