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Personal loan ads: Legit or scam?

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wanderingwalker75 wanderingwalker75 Newcomer
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#81 ·
I am literally living through a total nightmare right now because of this. Seriously, listen to me: NEVER, and I mean NEVER, deal with brokers like that. I can’t get into all the messy details, but I just watched a $160,000 value vanish into thin air over a measly 50 $0.00 !!!!!
Lisa Rogers Lisa Rogers Newcomer
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#82 ·
Man, this sounds terrible!
I know it’s probably awkward to talk about, but would you mind walking us through how this actually works? A friend of mine is currently in the middle of negotiations with a broker, and the guy handed her some paperwork from a bank—it all looks legitimate on the surface, but I can't help feeling there's a catch somewhere.
The broker asked for a full breakdown of her debts and which banks she uses, then used that info to pick out a lender where she could qualify for a loan. They landed on Chase. Apparently, the loan comes bundled with mandatory insurance (likely life insurance, though I didn't dig into the specifics). On paper, it seems fine, but it makes zero sense to me. Why would a bank approve her through a middleman when they’d reject her instantly if she walked right into a branch asking for the exact same thing?
It’s frustrating that there isn't more transparency regarding this stuff.
What I’m really trying to wrap my head around is how he could potentially scam her. I mean, at the end of the day, the bank should be depositing the funds directly into her account since the form only lists her details, right?
The whole situation just feels shady.
David Gray6 David Gray6 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2007
#83 ·
You can't pull one over on her... like you said yourself—the bank drops the cash straight into her checking account, and that’s that.
wanderingwalker75 wanderingwalker75 Newcomer
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#84 ·
Look, I get it—the FBI really stirred the pot with those credit regulations, and I know plenty of folks are stuck in a brutal spot where getting even a tiny loan feels impossible. But honestly? Don't be naive about this. I've seen people lose absolutely everything because they didn't see the fallout from decisions like that coming.
Joshua Miller17 Joshua Miller17 Newcomer
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#85 ·
Lisa Rogers said:Man, this sounds terrible!
I know it’s probably awkward to talk about, but would you mind walking us through how this actually works? A friend of mine is currently in the middle of negotiations with a broker, and the guy handed her some paperwork from a bank—it all looks legitimate on the surface, but I can't help feeling there's a catch somewhere.
The broker asked for a full breakdown of her debts and which banks she uses, then used that info to pick out a lender where she could qualify for a loan. They landed on Chase. Apparently, the loan comes bundled with mandatory insurance (likely life insurance, though I didn't dig into the specifics). On paper, it seems fine, but it makes zero sense to me. Why would a bank approve her through a middleman when they’d reject her instantly if she walked right into a branch asking for the exact same thing?
It’s frustrating that there isn't more transparency regarding this stuff.
What I’m really trying to wrap my head around is how he could potentially scam her. I mean, at the end of the day, the bank should be depositing the funds directly into her account since the form only lists her details, right?
The whole situation just feels shady.

you should definitely share all the details
how big is the loan
what's the monthly payment and how many years is the term
what's the point of the life insurance?
does that mean part of the cash goes toward the actual loan amount she gets in hand, while the rest covers the life insurance portion?
what did they tell her when she went down to the Chase branch in person to ask for that same loan?
Lisa Rogers Lisa Rogers Newcomer
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#86 ·
Ever since that whole Delta Air Lines incident made headlines, a friend of mine has been hesitating to move forward because she’s honestly pretty spooked.
I don't have all the specifics—this is actually a friend of a friend of 😁—but I believe she was looking to pull around $80k$33333, maybe on a 10-year term (though I can't say for certain). To be blunt, I haven't the slightest clue how the insurance side of this works.
That's why I'm posting here. I was hoping someone who has actually navigated this would chime in. Surely there's at least one person here who has successfully secured a loan through these brokers, or at least given it a shot.
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#87 ·
Look, maybe I’m just totally out of the loop here or completely uneducated on the subject, but I swear I haven't seen a single mention—not in real life, not in the news, and certainly not here—about getting bank loans through an intermediary...

I see two people on this forum bringing them up, but what I actually want to know is if anyone here has *actually* gone through the process and pulled it off. Specifically, which banks are actually playing ball with this?

I already went down to Chase, checked in with Bank of America, and even stopped by Wells Fargo... and honestly? They all just gave me these blank, confused stares like I was speaking a foreign language.
Steven Reed Steven Reed Regular
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joined Dec 2014
#88 ·
Certain banks utilize freelance agents to handle their business
—Bank of America doesn't operate quite that way
Lisa Rogers Lisa Rogers Newcomer
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#89 ·
However, according to the lady at Bank of America—the one the broker suggested—they’re actually being quite evasive about these specific loans.
And honestly, that’s what I don't get. Why wouldn't a bank just offer this kind of credit directly to someone without needing a middleman?
So, here's the situation: for this woman (whom I mentioned earlier), the broker suggested a loan through Wells Fargo after I took a look at her finances. To get the loan, she’d also have to pay for some kind of insurance—I'm not even sure what it covers—and the monthly premium is pretty steep. There are no requirements for guarantors, mortgages, or co-signers. On paper, it's perfect for my friend, but predictably, she's nervous.
She goes into the branch to ask for a loan under the exact same terms the broker offered. Naturally, the bank teller looks at her like she's lost her mind.
Still, I can't wrap my head around how these brokers could actually scam her. The only thing that makes sense is if they somehow intercept the funds so the money never hits her account. Otherwise, none of it adds up; she doesn't own property or a car, and she's just living off a decent salary. That's it.
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#90 ·
But I still don't get it (honestly, my brain has been a little fried lately 😬) why on earth she doesn't just take out a credit line directly through them 🤷
ruggedhound0 ruggedhound0 Member
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joined Dec 2007
#91 ·
Lisa Rogers said:However, according to the lady at Bank of America—the one the broker suggested—they’re actually being quite evasive about these specific loans.
And honestly, that’s what I don't get. Why wouldn't a bank just offer this kind of credit directly to someone without needing a middleman?
So, here's the situation: for this woman (whom I mentioned earlier), the broker suggested a loan through Wells Fargo after I took a look at her finances. To get the loan, she’d also have to pay for some kind of insurance—I'm not even sure what it covers—and the monthly premium is pretty steep. There are no requirements for guarantors, mortgages, or co-signers. On paper, it's perfect for my friend, but predictably, she's nervous.
She goes into the branch to ask for a loan under the exact same terms the broker offered. Naturally, the bank teller looks at her like she's lost her mind.
Still, I can't wrap my head around how these brokers could actually scam her. The only thing that makes sense is if they somehow intercept the funds so the money never hits her account. Otherwise, none of it adds up; she doesn't own property or a car, and she's just living off a decent salary. That's it.


Honey, you basically answered your own question—if this whole setup were legitimate, the folks at Bank of America would know all about it. There's definitely a catch somewhere, and who knows how far these shady characters will go to trap people with these kinds of loans? Our honest, well-meaning brains just aren't wired to understand that level of manipulation. She should just steer clear of that guy from the classified ads and be glad she hasn't signed anything yet. She can either wait it out or just apply where it actually makes sense—at a real bank.
Daniel Fisher72 Daniel Fisher72 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2008
#92 ·
Hey there!
I’m bumping this thread because I really need some fresh perspectives... basically, I’m looking to pull together a specific amount of cash through a loan... but since I’ve already got a few other loans on my plate, I’m a little worried that the big banks might just turn me down. It’s all for $33333. If that happens, I’m starting to look at an alternative—getting a loan through something like Craigslist... does anyone out there actually have GOOD experiences with those kinds of arrangements? I’m definitely feeling pretty skeptical about it, but if things get desperate... please, share your stories with me... Thanks so much, talk soon
Bryan Harris11 Bryan Harris11 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#93 ·
What exactly are you planning to do with the cash? And what kind of timeline are we looking at here?
Daniel Fisher72 Daniel Fisher72 Newcomer
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#94 ·
Bryan Harris11 said:What exactly are you planning to do with the cash? And what kind of timeline are we looking at here?

I've just got a few things I need to get sorted out... and as for the timeframe, I'm looking at at least 7 years... mostly because of the monthly payments... though I'm really hoping I can pay it all off sooner if everything just falls into place with my work and life... do you have any suggestions or ideas?
Bryan Harris11 Bryan Harris11 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#95 ·
I was under the impression you were just looking for a quick fix—something to bridge the gap for a few months until that cash you’re expecting actually hits your account—in which case, maybe taking out one of those private loans you see posted online wouldn't be the worst move. But if you're planning on dragging this out over a long period, I really wouldn't recommend going down that road; it's a trap
Daniel Fisher72 Daniel Fisher72 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2008
#96 ·
Hey everyone, quick question... does anyone here deal with loans through classified ads or online listings?
Kimberly Lopez65 Kimberly Lopez65 Member
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joined Mar 2008
#97 ·
Daniel Fisher72 said:Hey everyone, quick question... does anyone here deal with loans through classified ads or online listings?

It looks like nobody on this board is naive enough to fall for those shady loan ads. You never know what kind of mess you're getting into, and honestly, the terms at a legitimate place like Bank of America are way more predictable and secure.
Long story short: forget it. If you need cash bad enough to gamble it on some random Craigslist listing, you’re already in trouble. Stick to the banks. And if the banks won't touch you, well, good luck—it probably means they see exactly what you're worth, as harsh as that sounds. 😉
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
102 messages
joined May 2010
#98 ·
Honestly, almost everyone replying here is either being incredibly superficial or just theorizing without having the slightest clue what they're actually talking about...
Look, if you had bothered to glance at the actual ads, you would have realized there are at least four distinct types of loans being marketed here.
1. Fully legitimate loans processed through major institutions like Bank of America, but handled via authorized brokers or agencies (which is the group I belong to).
The upside? "They" handle the heavy lifting—advising you, gathering all your paperwork, and forwarding everything to the lending bank. You, the borrower, only show up at the bank once it’s time to sign the contract and get paid. There are agencies and offices that partner with dozens of different banks, so you only need to visit one place to compare terms across the board. You end up finding someone who will go above and beyond to find a solution because they only get their commission from the bank IF the loan is approved.
2. Credit card-based loans—using credit or charge cards to "buy" goods for $10, where "they" give you $8.25 cash, resell the items, and you're left stuck paying monthly installments with standard credit card interest rates of around 15%. This is mostly a scam run by shady retailers, though the "customers" using these services aren't exactly geniuses either...
3. Secured loans—usually backed by cars or things that are easy to flip, like jewelry or other assets.
4. Check-based loans—where you agree to pay back a specific "installment," and if you don't, "they" simply cash the checks.
5. Everything else found in the police blotter, though those guys don't exactly run ads...

There are more niche variations out there, but these are the big ones...
But really, you could have figured all this out in five minutes just by scrolling through the classifieds, picking three or four random ads as a test, and asking them straight up what kind of loans they're offering.

No worries, next time 🙂

P. S. There is NO such thing as a "good" or "favorable" loan. Every single loan is a necessary evil, to some degree. How much of an evil it is—and how necessary—depends entirely on YOU.
And here's another "smart" thought: Every product has its buyer, no matter how much we all shake our heads at it...
Elizabeth Morales49 Elizabeth Morales49 Member
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#99 ·
Richard Wright said:Honestly, almost everyone replying here is either being incredibly superficial or just theorizing without having the slightest clue what they're actually talking about...
Look, if you had bothered to glance at the actual ads, you would have realized there are at least four distinct types of loans being marketed here.
1. Fully legitimate loans processed through major institutions like Bank of America, but handled via authorized brokers or agencies (which is the group I belong to).
The upside? "They" handle the heavy lifting—advising you, gathering all your paperwork, and forwarding everything to the lending bank. You, the borrower, only show up at the bank once it’s time to sign the contract and get paid. There are agencies and offices that partner with dozens of different banks, so you only need to visit one place to compare terms across the board. You end up finding someone who will go above and beyond to find a solution because they only get their commission from the bank IF the loan is approved.
2. Credit card-based loans—using credit or charge cards to "buy" goods for $10, where "they" give you $8.25 cash, resell the items, and you're left stuck paying monthly installments with standard credit card interest rates of around 15%. This is mostly a scam run by shady retailers, though the "customers" using these services aren't exactly geniuses either...
3. Secured loans—usually backed by cars or things that are easy to flip, like jewelry or other assets.
4. Check-based loans—where you agree to pay back a specific "installment," and if you don't, "they" simply cash the checks.
5. Everything else found in the police blotter, though those guys don't exactly run ads...

There are more niche variations out there, but these are the big ones...
But really, you could have figured all this out in five minutes just by scrolling through the classifieds, picking three or four random ads as a test, and asking them straight up what kind of loans they're offering.

No worries, next time 🙂

P. S. There is NO such thing as a "good" or "favorable" loan. Every single loan is a necessary evil, to some degree. How much of an evil it is—and how necessary—depends entirely on YOU.
And here's another "smart" thought: Every product has its buyer, no matter how much we all shake our heads at it...

Can you please explain how you're supposedly helping me gather documentation? You can't exactly walk into my office and demand my boss fill out credit forms, and you can't ask my accounting department for my tax returns or pay stubs because you don't work there...

The only thing you can really do is help find the best deal if you happen to partner with multiple banks, but even then, anyone could do that themselves by walking into a few branches or just browsing the internet online.

So honestly, I don't see why anyone would ever pay you for your services...
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
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joined May 2010
#100 ·
Elizabeth Morales49 said:Can you please explain how you're supposedly helping me gather documentation? You can't exactly walk into my office and demand my boss fill out credit forms, and you can't ask my accounting department for my tax returns or pay stubs because you don't work there...

The only thing you can really do is help find the best deal if you happen to partner with multiple banks, but even then, anyone could do that themselves by walking into a few branches or just browsing the internet online.

So honestly, I don't see why anyone would ever pay you for your services...

First off, I’m taking your entire response as a personal insult, though I suspect that was exactly your intention. What you wrote above isn't "work"—it's a ten-minute trip to the accounting department. And frankly, we have absolutely nothing to do with that process. That’s what your colleague in accounting is getting paid for—the one you probably have to bribe with a box of chocolates every other week just to keep her from taking her bad mood out on the rest of us.

Elizabeth Morales49 said:Can you please explain how you're supposedly helping me gather documentation? You can't exactly walk into my office and demand my boss fill out credit forms, and you can't ask my accounting department for my tax returns or pay stubs because you don't work there...

The only thing you can really do is help find the best deal if you happen to partner with multiple banks, but even then, anyone could do that themselves by walking into a few branches or just browsing the internet online.

So honestly, I don't see why anyone would ever pay you for your services...

Look, you clearly don't grasp how we actually operate here, which is why you just blurted out something so incredibly misguided. Either that, or you have absolutely no clue about the sheer number of variables that have to align perfectly just to get a loan approved—especially now that we're dealing with all the red tape from the SEC.
If you have nothing better to do with your life than stand in line just to be fed half-truths and total misinformation, then by all means, stay far away from us. Honestly, if you’re the type who thinks it’s perfectly fine to burn through your vacation days just to deal with some bank loan bullshit, you clearly don't belong here.
Look, let’s be real here. If you’ve lived your entire life without ever touching a line of credit—no car loans, no student debt, nothing—you might think you’re in a position of strength. But if you happen to be lucky enough to pull a decent salary at a top-tier firm like Goldman Sachs or Google, then yeah, sure. You can walk right into a major bank like Chase or Bank of America and they'll hand you a loan. It’s simple math for them.
It’s high time you realized that you have absolutely no idea if one of the other ten banks out there is offering a better rate on a loan. But hey, you think you’ve mastered everything just because you spent a few hours scrolling through the internet, right? You haven't actually lost a single full workday to this process. I'm talking about the real grind: making multiple trips across town, standing in line after line, waiting around for a personal banker to finally notice you, and then spending hours surfing web pages only to realize you have to start the whole damn loop over again once you finally pick which branches to visit. Real research takes sweat, not just clicks.
Back home in the States, you could have gotten that answer in ten minutes flat—and I’m talking completely free of charge. No strings attached, no bill at the end. Just straightforward information, provided without anyone asking for a dime.

Elizabeth Morales49 said:Can you please explain how you're supposedly helping me gather documentation? You can't exactly walk into my office and demand my boss fill out credit forms, and you can't ask my accounting department for my tax returns or pay stubs because you don't work there...

The only thing you can really do is help find the best deal if you happen to partner with multiple banks, but even then, anyone could do that themselves by walking into a few branches or just browsing the internet online.

So honestly, I don't see why anyone would ever pay you for your services...

The banks and their affiliates are footing the bill here. They have to. We aren't just some amateur operation; we’re professionals. We handle the easy wins—the clients with spotless credit histories—just as effectively as we tackle the absolute disasters. I’m talking about the people drowning in over ten different loans, desperately grabbing at straws just to stay afloat. We fix both, and the institutions pay for our expertise.
We act as external partners to the banks, essentially handing them polished, ready-to-go documentation that requires nothing more than a quick mechanical processing on their end. It’s a seamless workflow. The banks are happy, the clients are satisfied, and the proof is in the referrals—they keep sending people our way. Look, we’ve earned our living the right way. We work hard and play by the rules. But I find myself venting because I’m tired of being lumped in with those shady, fly-by-night operators who ignore every regulation in the book. It’s infuriating when superficial observers can't tell the difference between legitimate professionals and those illegals, and they toss us all into the same dirty bucket. That’s exactly why I felt the need to set the record straight.

You’ve probably never even dealt with a contractor before, because honestly, painting an apartment isn't rocket science.
Either you run your own little side hustle and handle all your own bookkeeping—because why would you pay someone else to do something you can easily manage yourself?—or you're just delusional. To be brutally honest, why are you pulling such a massive salary for a role that your clients could handle on their own? Or better yet, your boss could just find some sucker to do the exact same thing for $333 less.

Just as a quick side note—over in Austria, about 40% of bank loans are processed through specialized agencies...

Best,

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