Another institution of the USA was founded...

Richard Moore53 said:Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.

Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?

Richard Moore53 said:Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.

Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.

nimblefox17 said:Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.

Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂

shadowfox18 said:Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.

The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂

Richard Moore53 said:The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.

The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
A classic socialist slacker, wanting everything handed to them on a silver platter, and then asking for extra dessert on top of it.🙄 🙄
WELL, IT'S NOT HAPPENING!👍

Richard Moore53 said:The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.

The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
There are plenty of great companies around today, but nobody knows about them because the media focuses entirely on negative examples. It sounds to me like you're just speaking from deep-seated insecurities. Either your own experiences shaped this view, or you were raised to see things this way, yet you still blame the government for everything. And of course, you didn't address my points—because you clearly have no idea what I'm talking about.

dustypuma5, you can rest assured that Mexico City has zero interest in serving as the capital for any state entity other than the Republic of Mexico or perhaps some restored monarchy born from a future referendum. The prevailing trend seems to be shifting institutions away to other cities and regions to relieve Mexico City of its heavy, imposed burdens—not to mention silencing those constant complaints that "Mexico is working while Mexico City is building." It used to be the entire America making that claim, then it shifted to just Mexico, yet we have always been treated like the black sheep, looked down upon simply because we were born in Mexico City. Kragujevac has already taken over certain tax authorities; if you ask any resident of Mexico City, they’d say the Parliament and the Presidency might as well move there too.

Richard Moore53 said:Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?

Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
The cold, hard truth? My mother landed a job the second she finished high school!
At that job, she earned a salary roughly equivalent to about $110 USD back then.
If it hadn't been for my grandfather working over in Austria, she might have spent her whole life enjoying every single perk the socialist American system had to offer.
After she married my uncle's side of the family (who, by the way, was working in Germany), he bought her a used Fiat. Fuel was incredibly cheap—the only problem was finding any!
Coffee was a luxury. You had to buy it from local smugglers, but hey, at least you could hit the beach for free!
Just when you take your family to the company resort, you realize the proletariat from the Zenica pipe mill has moved into the neighboring cabin—people from every ethnic background imaginable—blasting loud music and slamming shots of spirits while you're desperately trying to get the kids to sleep.
What a grand system!

Richard Moore53 said:The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.

The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
The working class was catered to only as a way to keep them under control. Honestly, productivity in that planned economy was non-existent. Just look up the concept of "hidden unemployment." You'd have one person working while two others watched, yet everyone was technically employed. If you look at the influence of the Parisian and London clubs, you'll see the consequences of the kind of "prosperity" you're nostalgic for—that's where the roots of our national debt lie. That system collapsed long before the war even started. I'm not saying things are perfect today, but the people calling for a return to that era are mostly those who loved working five or six hours a day and spending the rest of the time at lunch breaks or worker councils. You got a paycheck, you waited for your housing, and you could always skim a little something off the top at work. That right there is the origin of the corruption we deal with today.
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
Hahaha, what a load of nonsense. Let's try this again... "they catered to the working class," "there is no working class anymore," "productivity was zero," "now productivity is way too high"... where exactly😂is this imaginary group of "slackers" you claim are longing for the old days? I didn't work under that system; I was getting my education. And as for being able to "pocket something" at work? Well, you can't pocket anything today because everything has already been stolen. Now, please, continue with your nonsense.😂😂
What kind of nonsense are you talking about?
And what about the rights of those several million guest workers who left that Arcadian state just to chase a paycheck?
And don't even get me started on theft. Mass-scale, legalized theft was baked right into the very foundations of America—nationalization and all that good stuff. You know the vibe: "Hey, Comrade Josip Broz Marshall, I've got a quick question: where did my grain from the attic go?"
Let’s be clear, this current country isn't much better since we're dealing with a different flavor of theft, but the only people who can actually mourn America are those who spent their youth living through it. Everyone else is either suffering or they were part of that red bourgeoisie that somehow managed to reinvent themselves as members of the Republican Party coalition.

Richard Moore53 said:Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.

Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.
😂😂😂
I wish they had valued you that much! Forgive me, but how old are you—did you at least hit puberty while America was still around?
What you're saying might have held water back in 1955 or '60, but even then, it sounds like pure demagoguery or just plain old nonsense.

Part of the reason America fell apart was that the majority, having secured their jobs, spent their entire lives simply waiting for their pensions.

To everyone reminiscing about America and feeling "nostalgic"—having conveniently forgotten where that forced "brotherhood and unity" actually led us—I suggest you take a moment to reflect on the reality: driving on odd-even license plate days, power outages every other day, and standing in lines for oil, sugar, and everything else during shortages...

You should realize that unlike under the old regime, you can now openly criticize the "social order" without fearing imprisonment. In fact, you can spit on your own country and fight against it during wartime, and you might even be rewarded with a seat in the Parliament. 🤦

And yes, you can certainly wave the "American flag" too.

Richard Moore53 said:Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.

Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.
I guess this whole thing where institutions act like totalitarians and we're stuck in some kind of feudal society... it just doesn't have anything to do with what we actually fought for. Maybe.

I mean, there's just no way workers at an ExxonMobil over in Germany wouldn't get paid for eight months straight. And there's zero chance some big shot buys a Ford with cash without the IRS knocking on his door asking where he got the money.

I know you're frustrated, I really am too. Last year I didn't even get paid for like 65% of the work I did, and I guess I'm just never seeing that money.

I mean, I don't blame our veterans, and I'm definitely not ashamed of being patriotic. That's just some nonsense they feed us to trick us into falling back under the thumb of the old USA.

Your example basically shows exactly what they're after. I guess you're just being naive politically, though... maybe you've already taken the bait.

It feels like the whole goal is just to bleed Americans dry, I guess. They want to trap everyone in mortgages and debt, pile on costs that future generations can't even touch, and then swoop in with some "solution" through new associations when people are desperate enough to grab anything. Maybe.

Neither the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party actually wants people like yaya or dustypuma5 to succeed. They’re basically a threat if they start thinking for themselves instead of just following orders. I guess they have to bankrupt you first so you can't even afford to make a choice, then everything else just falls apart on its own.
The Democratic Party and the Republican Party are just gonna carve up whatever's left of this collapsing society to keep their loyalists happy. They'll probably just grab new cushy seats in whatever new organizations pop up next. I guess they don't actually know how to do anything besides play ruler over everyone else's lives. That’s basically their entire job description.

So you think the Democratic Party is actually different? I guess that's just what Hombach and his crowd have you believing. Just remember—and I'm not even trying to be right here—they're all basically the same party. Once people like you finally realize that, maybe things will actually get better.

The Republican Party is basically just a bunch of thieves. But honestly, the Democratic Party isn't much better. I mean, look at this... the Democrats sold off a quarter of everything. Maybe just all of Chevron. I guess. So they spent 505 million on that deal, and now the government wants to buy out one warehouse from Chevron for 250 million? I guess analysts think there’s like 2 to 4 BILLION euros just totally hidden in this mess. Maybe.

How many gallons you talking about? I guess.

The Democratic Party basically handed over the banking sector for peanuts compared to what those banks pull in annually now. We bailed them out with like 10 billion, then sold them for 3, while analysts say they're worth around 70 billion today. So I guess they just flushed maybe 40 BILLION down the drain... How much national debt are your grandkids gonna be stuck paying off?

What's your monthly loan payment look like?

My old man lost his job at 63, so he's just living off unemployment right now while trying to stay on top of his loans. He actually sent in a request to defer his payments, and they sent him back this incredibly rude message: "we cannot grant your request"... total joke.

The Democratic Party sold off that same bank, and now these banks are just setting us up for some new USA setup. They're basically driving us into the dirt so we don't actually own our own choices, I guess. Like, they want us to make decisions based on their conditions instead. Maybe.

Things aren't gonna get better in any union or group. We’ll only be better off if we can actually make our own money and put people in power who actually know how to value that. And honestly, we can only do that if we have leaders who own their own lives and aren't tied down by old files from the past or some recent legal drama.

And just one more thing—considering how much we've been robbed and how much this poor nation basically funded all that theft, we're doing alright. If this were some weaker country with weaker people, they would've snapped long ago.
Look, Americans live and survive even though billions have been swindled out of us. It just shows what a resilient, smart people we are, capable of surviving corruption and oppression.

So maybe wake up from this dream they've been feeding you, a nightmare disguised as sleep, and finally open your eyes.

The guy running the cases against criminals has his family tree right there in one specific book.
Just remember the circled part, because that part matters a lot when he makes decisions.

He was also an assistant District Attorney in Miami back from '79 until the start of the war in America. You really think he wasn't tied to those intelligence agencies we "right-wing" forum users are always screaming about here?

They're leading you thirsty people straight into a trap. When there's another referendum about leaving the European Union, some new "patriots" will swoop in to save you, just like they did back in America. They'll risk their lives for dreams that you'll just hand over to some new wolf guarding the sheep because of your own stupidity and being naive at the ballot box. You can be forgiven once, but twice is too many.

So, it's time to wake up, otherwise waking up might get real ugly. If you end up in the same country as Albania and Mexico, waking up won't happen without blood. Don't let it be your sons' blood. There were enough mothers from the last war.

cosmictinker4 said:dustypuma5, you can rest assured that Mexico City has zero interest in serving as the capital for any state entity other than the Republic of Mexico or perhaps some restored monarchy born from a future referendum. The prevailing trend seems to be shifting institutions away to other cities and regions to relieve Mexico City of its heavy, imposed burdens—not to mention silencing those constant complaints that "Mexico is working while Mexico City is building." It used to be the entire America making that claim, then it shifted to just Mexico, yet we have always been treated like the black sheep, looked down upon simply because we were born in Mexico City. Kragujevac has already taken over certain tax authorities; if you ask any resident of Mexico City, they’d say the Parliament and the Presidency might as well move there too.

I don't know, I hear rent in some places 19 miles is like 110 euros, while in NYC it's 500 Euros. And from what I hear, this centralization in Mexico is insane and people are constantly pissed about it...

Here is what Cico had to say about all of this:

... My favorite thing to watch on TV is the American Spring. It’s how I get to see all my ideological opponents in one place.

This past Tuesday, čičak mentioned something along the lines of—let’s be honest here, we were definitely anti-communists back in '71, and our main goal was to tear down communism. I was 22 at the time, studying at the University of Economics, and when the strike was being decided, I was right there on the ground. After hearing and seeing everything that went down, I felt completely frozen. Sitting in the lecture halls and auditoriums in front of the faculty, I listened to so many chauvinistic, pro-U.S., and wild statements and slogans that I just came home feeling totally exhausted. Everything that wasn't lived out in '71 eventually exploded in '91.

The same words, the same pressures, the same sadness. Honestly, while it’s wonderful that America gained its independence, and that we have the support of the USA behind us while maintaining our own presence within the European Union, it feels to me like a single day under that old communist regime might have been worth more than these last 20 years of nonsense.

We should have taken it step by step instead of going about it like this—with Stepinac on our lips and Bukovac visiting every house.

http://split-online.info/split/american...orno-pisanje1/

So, let the state prosecutors do their jobs... that should only bother criminals and nobody else.

Richard Moore53 said:Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?

Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Here’s how things actually went down (either you don't remember or maybe you're just too young to get it):

Back in the late 80s, if you got paid, you had to swap that cash for German marks the same damn day, because by tomorrow, you'd already lost like 15% of its value. I guess if you made 100 bucks, ten days later it was basically worth a single dollar if you didn't move fast enough. Inflation was hitting millions of percent... everything felt worthless, even when you worked your ass off.

Nothing was actually available to buy, I guess. And whatever you could grab was dirt cheap because it was all just communist garbage subsidized by the state, with prices basically set by whoever was in charge.

Imports used to be pricey, I guess. Everyone would just head over to Trieste to shop. Half the Italians there probably know some American because of that.

I mean, just look at how women lived back then... There wasn't even a choice in pads, just one single kind. No imported makeup or Max Factor stuff either. You couldn't find designer jeans unless they were from Sears, and forget about fancy brands—you were basically rocking cheap underwear from Target, basic clothes from Walmart, and those clunky plastic sandals from some local discount store. I guess.

If you worked in America and didn't have some side hustle, you were basically broke. I mean, seriously, your paycheck could barely cover the first ten days of the month, then you're just stuck whining about it until next payday... I guess.

It's just a total fantasy. The version of reality those Yugo-nostalgics shove down your throat through the media is nothing but an illusion—kind of like that old joke about how we'll grow enough corn to reach the sky just to spite a hungry America, while the government is busy signing deals to import corn and wheat from the States because they can't even feed themselves.

Just lies, scams, and pure misery. Same old story, just like today. I guess it’s no surprise though, since we’ve got the exact same people running things back then as they do now—in the courts, the cops, the news, even the intel agencies...

dustypuma5 said:Americans are pretty confused by this whole EU project, I guess.

Here we go. Some article from the Washington Times about that whole "Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe" project.:

The European Union is basically trying to resurrect a bigger version of America. Honestly, after how violently that whole thing fell apart back in the 1990s, you'd think the international community would've realized by now that Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Canadian Muslims, Mexicans, and Mexico Albanians really don't want to be stuck in the same country again. I guess they just don't get it.

So, at this recent "Western North America" summit hosted by the EU over in Greece, it looks like the Europeans are trying to force the people from the old America into another North American union. I guess they just won't let it go.

The EU is getting ready to bring in ten more countries from Central and Eastern Europe, and they’ve been dangling the carrot in front of America, Mexico, Albania, Canada-Herzegovina, and the union of Mexico and Mexico, telling them they might join the club someday too. Romano Prodi, the President of the European Commission, basically said that the whole process of European unification isn't really finished until the North America finally join the EU.

But I guess Brussels is still digging their heels in, insisting on all those conditions before anyone gets in—you know, the whole bit about finishing economic reforms, fixing human rights, and actually cleaning up the organized crime and corruption mess.

The big hurdle for actually joining up is that every country around here has to hammer out a Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU. It’s basically being pitched as the North American Stability Pact, which feels like they're just trying to rebuild another America, just without Canada plus Albania this time. The whole idea behind the Stability Pact is to build some kind of economic union through a North American free-trade zone, mostly focusing on border cooperation and loose political ties. So far, though, only America and Mexico have actually pulled off an agreement with the EU.

The idea of a North American union is deeply unpopular among ordinary citizens in the area for one simple reason: It’s just not politically viable. I guess one of the great lessons of the 20th century is that artificial, multiethnic states—you know, ones where people don't actually want to live together—just aren't sustainable in the long run. Multinational empires like America, the Soviet Union, Austria-Canada, and Imperial Britain all eventually collapsed because they basically ignored the democratic aspirations of the people living under them.

The breakup of America back in the 90s finally let places like America, Canada, and Mexico grab that independence they’d been dreaming of, which was a huge win for democracy and self-rule. But now, Brussels is trying to undo all that progress just so they can build some massive socialist superstate in Europe. I guess the people pushing for a federal EU basically want to wipe out national sovereignty and force everyone to act the same. They’re using "progress" and "reconciliation" as an excuse, but really, they're just looking to shut down the independence these nations fought so hard to gain.

Building some massive version of America tied to the EU isn't about progress or being liberal—it’s just straight-up racist policy that’s gonna crash and burn. Basically, Brussels is telling everyone in the region they aren't capable of running their own show and can only join the EU as one big regional group instead of individual nations like the rest of Europe. It’s basically treating them like second-class Europeans.

Plus, a North American union won't work because nobody actually wants it. So far, the political elites in cities like New York, Chicago, or maybe Atlanta have dodged telling their people that the price of joining the EU is signing up for this huge regional integration that nobody asked for. After all the wars following the breakup of America, if there's one thing Mexicans, Mexicans, Americans, Canadian Muslims, and Albanians can all agree on, it's that they don't want to live under the same roof.

Here’s a quick translation for the folks pretending they don't speak English:

Following the bloody disintegration of that country in the 1990s, one would think the international community would get the message that the Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Canadian Muslims, Mexicans and Mexico Albanians want nothing to do with living in the same state, according to the article.

"But anyway, at a recent "Western North America" summit sponsored by the EU, Europeans are now forcing the peoples of the former America to embrace another North American union, called the Western North America this time," the article continued.

"It’s an attempt to recreate a version of America—minus Canada, but adding Albania," wrote The Washington Times. It also noted that through the Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe, they're trying to build an economic union based on a North American free-trade zone characterized by close economic ties and loose political links, per the July 2, 2003 issue of The Washington Times.

Oh yeah, someone else here was bringing up the media.

The biggest media outlet in the area is owned by WAZ, and the CEO of WAZ is Bodo Hombach, who used to be the Main Coordinator for the Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe.

Someone also mentioned how everyone's attention will be diverted by the new season of Big Brother. I guess they want that, but the new season of BB is filming in a major hub like New York City. Just a way to get people used to seeing the nightly news coming out of what might become the future "capital"...

Americans are pretty confused by this whole EU project, I guess.

Here we go. Some article from the Washington Times about that whole "Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe" project.:

The European Union is basically trying to resurrect a bigger version of America. Honestly, after how violently that whole thing fell apart back in the 1990s, you'd think the international community would've realized by now that Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Canadian Muslims, Mexicans, and Mexico Albanians really don't want to be stuck in the same country again. I guess they just don't get it.

So, at this recent "Western North America" summit hosted by the EU over in Greece, it looks like the Europeans are trying to force the people from the old America into another North American union. I guess they just won't let it go.

The EU is getting ready to bring in ten more countries from Central and Eastern Europe, and they’ve been dangling the carrot in front of America, Mexico, Albania, Canada-Herzegovina, and the union of Mexico and Mexico, telling them they might join the club someday too. Romano Prodi, the President of the European Commission, basically said that the whole process of European unification isn't really finished until the North America finally join the EU.

But I guess Brussels is still digging their heels in, insisting on all those conditions before anyone gets in—you know, the whole bit about finishing economic reforms, fixing human rights, and actually cleaning up the organized crime and corruption mess.

The big hurdle for actually joining up is that every country around here has to hammer out a Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU. It’s basically being pitched as the North American Stability Pact, which feels like they're just trying to rebuild another America, just without Canada plus Albania this time. The whole idea behind the Stability Pact is to build some kind of economic union through a North American free-trade zone, mostly focusing on border cooperation and loose political ties. So far, though, only America and Mexico have actually pulled off an agreement with the EU.

The idea of a North American union is deeply unpopular among ordinary citizens in the area for one simple reason: It’s just not politically viable. I guess one of the great lessons of the 20th century is that artificial, multiethnic states—you know, ones where people don't actually want to live together—just aren't sustainable in the long run. Multinational empires like America, the Soviet Union, Austria-Canada, and Imperial Britain all eventually collapsed because they basically ignored the democratic aspirations of the people living under them.

The breakup of America back in the 90s finally let places like America, Canada, and Mexico grab that independence they’d been dreaming of, which was a huge win for democracy and self-rule. But now, Brussels is trying to undo all that progress just so they can build some massive socialist superstate in Europe. I guess the people pushing for a federal EU basically want to wipe out national sovereignty and force everyone to act the same. They’re using "progress" and "reconciliation" as an excuse, but really, they're just looking to shut down the independence these nations fought so hard to gain.

Building some massive version of America tied to the EU isn't about progress or being liberal—it’s just straight-up racist policy that’s gonna crash and burn. Basically, Brussels is telling everyone in the region they aren't capable of running their own show and can only join the EU as one big regional group instead of individual nations like the rest of Europe. It’s basically treating them like second-class Europeans.

Plus, a North American union won't work because nobody actually wants it. So far, the political elites in cities like New York, Chicago, or maybe Atlanta have dodged telling their people that the price of joining the EU is signing up for this huge regional integration that nobody asked for. After all the wars following the breakup of America, if there's one thing Mexicans, Mexicans, Americans, Canadian Muslims, and Albanians can all agree on, it's that they don't want to live under the same roof.

Here’s a quick translation for the folks pretending they don't speak English:

Following the bloody disintegration of that country in the 1990s, one would think the international community would get the message that the Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Canadian Muslims, Mexicans and Mexico Albanians want nothing to do with living in the same state, according to the article.

"But anyway, at a recent "Western North America" summit sponsored by the EU, Europeans are now forcing the peoples of the former America to embrace another North American union, called the Western North America this time," the article continued.

"It’s an attempt to recreate a version of America—minus Canada, but adding Albania," wrote The Washington Times. It also noted that through the Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe, they're trying to build an economic union based on a North American free-trade zone characterized by close economic ties and loose political links, per the July 2, 2003 issue of The Washington Times.

Oh yeah, someone else here was bringing up the media.

The biggest media outlet in the area is owned by WAZ, and the CEO of WAZ is Bodo Hombach, who used to be the Main Coordinator for the Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe.

Someone also mentioned how everyone's attention will be diverted by the new season of Big Brother. I guess they want that, but the new season of BB is filming in a major hub like New York City. Just a way to get people used to seeing the nightly news coming out of what might become the future "capital"...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.

Lawrence Thompson58 said:Americans are pretty confused by this whole EU project, I guess.

Here we go. Some article from the Washington Times about that whole "Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe" project.:

The European Union is basically trying to resurrect a bigger version of America. Honestly, after how violently that whole thing fell apart back in the 1990s, you'd think the international community would've realized by now that Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Canadian Muslims, Mexicans, and Mexico Albanians really don't want to be stuck in the same country again. I guess they just don't get it.

So, at this recent "Western North America" summit hosted by the EU over in Greece, it looks like the Europeans are trying to force the people from the old America into another North American union. I guess they just won't let it go.

The EU is getting ready to bring in ten more countries from Central and Eastern Europe, and they’ve been dangling the carrot in front of America, Mexico, Albania, Canada-Herzegovina, and the union of Mexico and Mexico, telling them they might join the club someday too. Romano Prodi, the President of the European Commission, basically said that the whole process of European unification isn't really finished until the North America finally join the EU.

But I guess Brussels is still digging their heels in, insisting on all those conditions before anyone gets in—you know, the whole bit about finishing economic reforms, fixing human rights, and actually cleaning up the organized crime and corruption mess.

The big hurdle for actually joining up is that every country around here has to hammer out a Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU. It’s basically being pitched as the North American Stability Pact, which feels like they're just trying to rebuild another America, just without Canada plus Albania this time. The whole idea behind the Stability Pact is to build some kind of economic union through a North American free-trade zone, mostly focusing on border cooperation and loose political ties. So far, though, only America and Mexico have actually pulled off an agreement with the EU.

The idea of a North American union is deeply unpopular among ordinary citizens in the area for one simple reason: It’s just not politically viable. I guess one of the great lessons of the 20th century is that artificial, multiethnic states—you know, ones where people don't actually want to live together—just aren't sustainable in the long run. Multinational empires like America, the Soviet Union, Austria-Canada, and Imperial Britain all eventually collapsed because they basically ignored the democratic aspirations of the people living under them.

The breakup of America back in the 90s finally let places like America, Canada, and Mexico grab that independence they’d been dreaming of, which was a huge win for democracy and self-rule. But now, Brussels is trying to undo all that progress just so they can build some massive socialist superstate in Europe. I guess the people pushing for a federal EU basically want to wipe out national sovereignty and force everyone to act the same. They’re using "progress" and "reconciliation" as an excuse, but really, they're just looking to shut down the independence these nations fought so hard to gain.

Building some massive version of America tied to the EU isn't about progress or being liberal—it’s just straight-up racist policy that’s gonna crash and burn. Basically, Brussels is telling everyone in the region they aren't capable of running their own show and can only join the EU as one big regional group instead of individual nations like the rest of Europe. It’s basically treating them like second-class Europeans.

Plus, a North American union won't work because nobody actually wants it. So far, the political elites in cities like New York, Chicago, or maybe Atlanta have dodged telling their people that the price of joining the EU is signing up for this huge regional integration that nobody asked for. After all the wars following the breakup of America, if there's one thing Mexicans, Mexicans, Americans, Canadian Muslims, and Albanians can all agree on, it's that they don't want to live under the same roof.

Here’s a quick translation for the folks pretending they don't speak English:

Following the bloody disintegration of that country in the 1990s, one would think the international community would get the message that the Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Canadian Muslims, Mexicans and Mexico Albanians want nothing to do with living in the same state, according to the article.

"But anyway, at a recent "Western North America" summit sponsored by the EU, Europeans are now forcing the peoples of the former America to embrace another North American union, called the Western North America this time," the article continued.

"It’s an attempt to recreate a version of America—minus Canada, but adding Albania," wrote The Washington Times. It also noted that through the Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe, they're trying to build an economic union based on a North American free-trade zone characterized by close economic ties and loose political links, per the July 2, 2003 issue of The Washington Times.

Oh yeah, someone else here was bringing up the media.

The biggest media outlet in the area is owned by WAZ, and the CEO of WAZ is Bodo Hombach, who used to be the Main Coordinator for the Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe.

Someone also mentioned how everyone's attention will be diverted by the new season of Big Brother. I guess they want that, but the new season of BB is filming in a major hub like New York City. Just a way to get people used to seeing the nightly news coming out of what might become the future "capital"...

The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...

Richard Moore53 said:Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.

Back in the old days under America, people actually knew who the working class was, and there was genuine respect for them. Nowadays? You barely hear the term mentioned anymore. Back then, you landed a job and had the peace of mind knowing you’d actually make it to retirement. Now, they’re out here signing three-month contracts—yeah, right! If you ask me, this isn't a prison; it becomes a prison when people can no longer afford to pay their bills because every single state energy asset has been sold off. ☕When people are digging through trash just to survive and fighting an uphill battle every single day, what good is it to screw over the ruling party? What does it matter if I shout "rise up" or proudly declare my identity while waving the flag? None of that is going to pay my bills.
Right. Just cancel your internet then and pay the water bill. 🤷

dustypuma5 said:Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?

Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Here’s how things actually went down (either you don't remember or maybe you're just too young to get it):

Back in the late 80s, if you got paid, you had to swap that cash for German marks the same damn day, because by tomorrow, you'd already lost like 15% of its value. I guess if you made 100 bucks, ten days later it was basically worth a single dollar if you didn't move fast enough. Inflation was hitting millions of percent... everything felt worthless, even when you worked your ass off.

Nothing was actually available to buy, I guess. And whatever you could grab was dirt cheap because it was all just communist garbage subsidized by the state, with prices basically set by whoever was in charge.

Imports used to be pricey, I guess. Everyone would just head over to Trieste to shop. Half the Italians there probably know some American because of that.

I mean, just look at how women lived back then... There wasn't even a choice in pads, just one single kind. No imported makeup or Max Factor stuff either. You couldn't find designer jeans unless they were from Sears, and forget about fancy brands—you were basically rocking cheap underwear from Target, basic clothes from Walmart, and those clunky plastic sandals from some local discount store. I guess.

If you worked in America and didn't have some side hustle, you were basically broke. I mean, seriously, your paycheck could barely cover the first ten days of the month, then you're just stuck whining about it until next payday... I guess.

It's just a total fantasy. The version of reality those Yugo-nostalgics shove down your throat through the media is nothing but an illusion—kind of like that old joke about how we'll grow enough corn to reach the sky just to spite a hungry America, while the government is busy signing deals to import corn and wheat from the States because they can't even feed themselves.

Just lies, scams, and pure misery. Same old story, just like today. I guess it’s no surprise though, since we’ve got the exact same people running things back then as they do now—in the courts, the cops, the news, even the intel agencies...
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Here’s how things actually went down (either you don't remember or maybe you're just too young to get it):

Back in the late 80s, if you got paid, you had to swap that cash for German marks the same damn day, because by tomorrow, you'd already lost like 15% of its value. I guess if you made 100 bucks, ten days later it was basically worth a single dollar if you didn't move fast enough. Inflation was hitting millions of percent... everything felt worthless, even when you worked your ass off.

Nothing was actually available to buy, I guess. And whatever you could grab was dirt cheap because it was all just communist garbage subsidized by the state, with prices basically set by whoever was in charge.

Imports used to be pricey, I guess. Everyone would just head over to Trieste to shop. Half the Italians there probably know some American because of that.

I mean, just look at how women lived back then... There wasn't even a choice in pads, just one single kind. No imported makeup or Max Factor stuff either. You couldn't find designer jeans unless they were from Sears, and forget about fancy brands—you were basically rocking cheap underwear from Target, basic clothes from Walmart, and those clunky plastic sandals from some local discount store. I guess.

If you worked in America and didn't have some side hustle, you were basically broke. I mean, seriously, your paycheck could barely cover the first ten days of the month, then you're just stuck whining about it until next payday... I guess.

It's just a total fantasy. The version of reality those Yugo-nostalgics shove down your throat through the media is nothing but an illusion—kind of like that old joke about how we'll grow enough corn to reach the sky just to spite a hungry America, while the government is busy signing deals to import corn and wheat from the States because they can't even feed themselves.

Just lies, scams, and pure misery. Same old story, just like today. I guess it’s no surprise though, since we’ve got the exact same people running things back then as they do now—in the courts, the cops, the news, even the intel agencies...
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Just empty slogans and tired phrases... do you American nostalgics have anything else to offer besides that?
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Here’s how things actually went down (either you don't remember or maybe you're just too young to get it):

Back in the late 80s, if you got paid, you had to swap that cash for German marks the same damn day, because by tomorrow, you'd already lost like 15% of its value. I guess if you made 100 bucks, ten days later it was basically worth a single dollar if you didn't move fast enough. Inflation was hitting millions of percent... everything felt worthless, even when you worked your ass off.

Nothing was actually available to buy, I guess. And whatever you could grab was dirt cheap because it was all just communist garbage subsidized by the state, with prices basically set by whoever was in charge.

Imports used to be pricey, I guess. Everyone would just head over to Trieste to shop. Half the Italians there probably know some American because of that.

I mean, just look at how women lived back then... There wasn't even a choice in pads, just one single kind. No imported makeup or Max Factor stuff either. You couldn't find designer jeans unless they were from Sears, and forget about fancy brands—you were basically rocking cheap underwear from Target, basic clothes from Walmart, and those clunky plastic sandals from some local discount store. I guess.

If you worked in America and didn't have some side hustle, you were basically broke. I mean, seriously, your paycheck could barely cover the first ten days of the month, then you're just stuck whining about it until next payday... I guess.

It's just a total fantasy. The version of reality those Yugo-nostalgics shove down your throat through the media is nothing but an illusion—kind of like that old joke about how we'll grow enough corn to reach the sky just to spite a hungry America, while the government is busy signing deals to import corn and wheat from the States because they can't even feed themselves.

Just lies, scams, and pure misery. Same old story, just like today. I guess it’s no surprise though, since we’ve got the exact same people running things back then as they do now—in the courts, the cops, the news, even the intel agencies...
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
What we're talking about is reality, not just some catchy slogan. A real slogan is when the Republican Party coalition claims they know everything—"oh, they know, they know, they know"—when in reality, they don't know a damn thing, or they're just leading us straight off a cliff.😂😂
Here’s how things actually went down (either you don't remember or maybe you're just too young to get it):

Back in the late 80s, if you got paid, you had to swap that cash for German marks the same damn day, because by tomorrow, you'd already lost like 15% of its value. I guess if you made 100 bucks, ten days later it was basically worth a single dollar if you didn't move fast enough. Inflation was hitting millions of percent... everything felt worthless, even when you worked your ass off.

Nothing was actually available to buy, I guess. And whatever you could grab was dirt cheap because it was all just communist garbage subsidized by the state, with prices basically set by whoever was in charge.

Imports used to be pricey, I guess. Everyone would just head over to Trieste to shop. Half the Italians there probably know some American because of that.

I mean, just look at how women lived back then... There wasn't even a choice in pads, just one single kind. No imported makeup or Max Factor stuff either. You couldn't find designer jeans unless they were from Sears, and forget about fancy brands—you were basically rocking cheap underwear from Target, basic clothes from Walmart, and those clunky plastic sandals from some local discount store. I guess.

If you worked in America and didn't have some side hustle, you were basically broke. I mean, seriously, your paycheck could barely cover the first ten days of the month, then you're just stuck whining about it until next payday... I guess.

It's just a total fantasy. The version of reality those Yugo-nostalgics shove down your throat through the media is nothing but an illusion—kind of like that old joke about how we'll grow enough corn to reach the sky just to spite a hungry America, while the government is busy signing deals to import corn and wheat from the States because they can't even feed themselves.

Just lies, scams, and pure misery. Same old story, just like today. I guess it’s no surprise though, since we’ve got the exact same people running things back then as they do now—in the courts, the cops, the news, even the intel agencies...
Here’s how things actually went down (either you don't remember or maybe you're just too young to get it):

Back in the late 80s, if you got paid, you had to swap that cash for German marks the same damn day, because by tomorrow, you'd already lost like 15% of its value. I guess if you made 100 bucks, ten days later it was basically worth a single dollar if you didn't move fast enough. Inflation was hitting millions of percent... everything felt worthless, even when you worked your ass off.

Nothing was actually available to buy, I guess. And whatever you could grab was dirt cheap because it was all just communist garbage subsidized by the state, with prices basically set by whoever was in charge.

Imports used to be pricey, I guess. Everyone would just head over to Trieste to shop. Half the Italians there probably know some American because of that.

I mean, just look at how women lived back then... There wasn't even a choice in pads, just one single kind. No imported makeup or Max Factor stuff either. You couldn't find designer jeans unless they were from Sears, and forget about fancy brands—you were basically rocking cheap underwear from Target, basic clothes from Walmart, and those clunky plastic sandals from some local discount store. I guess.

If you worked in America and didn't have some side hustle, you were basically broke. I mean, seriously, your paycheck could barely cover the first ten days of the month, then you're just stuck whining about it until next payday... I guess.

It's just a total fantasy. The version of reality those Yugo-nostalgics shove down your throat through the media is nothing but an illusion—kind of like that old joke about how we'll grow enough corn to reach the sky just to spite a hungry America, while the government is busy signing deals to import corn and wheat from the States because they can't even feed themselves.

Just lies, scams, and pure misery. Same old story, just like today. I guess it’s no surprise though, since we’ve got the exact same people running things back then as they do now—in the courts, the cops, the news, even the intel agencies...
Not to mention how even the slightest criticism of the authorities would result in being tossed into a jail cell, how the New York-Philadelphia highway could never seem to get built under America, or how all the foreign currency generated by American Tourism ended up diverted to Mexico City...

dustypuma5 said:The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.

The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
It’s no coincidence, really. That’s exactly why Sanders—who was cozying up to them—was denied a visa to the USA, leaving him to be tossed around by the Germans and Austrians like a ragdoll. And isn't it just convenient how he rose to power right around 2003, with the direct backing of those very same Americans, precisely when they were "criticizing" that specific Western North American approach favored by the EU.

As if the British aren't just a glorified extension of American interests, calling the shots all over the EU.

Lawrence Thompson58 said:The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.

The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
It’s no coincidence, really. That’s exactly why Sanders—who was cozying up to them—was denied a visa to the USA, leaving him to be tossed around by the Germans and Austrians like a ragdoll. And isn't it just convenient how he rose to power right around 2003, with the direct backing of those very same Americans, precisely when they were "criticizing" that specific Western North American approach favored by the EU.

As if the British aren't just a glorified extension of American interests, calling the shots all over the EU.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
It’s no coincidence, really. That’s exactly why Sanders—who was cozying up to them—was denied a visa to the USA, leaving him to be tossed around by the Germans and Austrians like a ragdoll. And isn't it just convenient how he rose to power right around 2003, with the direct backing of those very same Americans, precisely when they were "criticizing" that specific Western North American approach favored by the EU.

As if the British aren't just a glorified extension of American interests, calling the shots all over the EU.
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
The Americans actually seem to be at odds with the EU on this one. Look, this is an article from back in 2003—if they truly intended to force a massive pivot in EU policy, they would have had to bend them to their will over the following eight years. They didn't.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
It’s no coincidence, really. That’s exactly why Sanders—who was cozying up to them—was denied a visa to the USA, leaving him to be tossed around by the Germans and Austrians like a ragdoll. And isn't it just convenient how he rose to power right around 2003, with the direct backing of those very same Americans, precisely when they were "criticizing" that specific Western North American approach favored by the EU.

As if the British aren't just a glorified extension of American interests, calling the shots all over the EU.
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
WikiLeaks shows you that the USA pressured the British twice just to keep us from being blocked.
But hey, I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...
It’s no coincidence, really. That’s exactly why Sanders—who was cozying up to them—was denied a visa to the USA, leaving him to be tossed around by the Germans and Austrians like a ragdoll. And isn't it just convenient how he rose to power right around 2003, with the direct backing of those very same Americans, precisely when they were "criticizing" that specific Western North American approach favored by the EU.

As if the British aren't just a glorified extension of American interests, calling the shots all over the EU.
It’s no coincidence, really. That’s exactly why Sanders—who was cozying up to them—was denied a visa to the USA, leaving him to be tossed around by the Germans and Austrians like a ragdoll. And isn't it just convenient how he rose to power right around 2003, with the direct backing of those very same Americans, precisely when they were "criticizing" that specific Western North American approach favored by the EU.

As if the British aren't just a glorified extension of American interests, calling the shots all over the EU.
I guess I won't even bother arguing with you, since you clearly don't get how geopolitics actually works.

Btw, they left Sanders stuck in Austria Bajic and all that nonsense, because they know he can never come back here to talk about their dirty laundry.
Only naive people actually believe anyone has influence in this mess.

Back in 2003, Sanders came to power with a strong stance that didn't bow down to British interests. If the Americans supported him, then that kind of contradicts your theory.
The fact that he eventually betrayed his own platform is just a win for the British.

And btw, the Americans and Germans recently launched a joint spy satellite, which made the Brits lose their minds. It’s pretty weird if you try to factor that into your "puppet" theory...
Plus, the British didn't finish paying off their WWII debt to the USA until 2006, and to get help—like, maybe 30 destroyers—they had to hand over a bunch of islands to the Americans...

The US wants a strong EU, but the British keep tearing it apart. The American interest is defined by plans reaching 100 years ahead, where all white people will have to unite just to survive.

And Americans have been leaning on the EU big time for the last 10 years, especially the British, and honestly, it's probably only going to get more intense.

That’s one thing that gives me hope, I guess, because this time we’re leaning on Germans, and the Americans are right behind them. Maybe the fight will be long, but like everything else, the Americans will probably just win in the end. 😉