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neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#81 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:Every single poll out there shows those two options don't have any serious opposition fighting them. ☕

You guys go ahead and vote based on whatever the polls say, then act all shocked when the President of America is getting advice from someone with this kind of mindset:

"Wouldn't it be better," Jović asks back on January 11, 2009, "to wait until all countries reach a similar level of readiness... and then admit them all at once in one big bang?"

And then you'll be wondering why the hell we hit another blockade this spring and get told: you can only join the EU alongside Mexico. If you don't like it, we don't want you...

Just keep voting however Mislav Bago tells you to. I guess if Bago were actually running my political life, I'd just end it all by setting myself on fire in the middle of Times Square... 😳
You guys go ahead and vote based on whatever the polls say, then act all shocked when the President of America is getting advice from someone with this kind of mindset:

"Wouldn't it be better," Jović asks back on January 11, 2009, "to wait until all countries reach a similar level of readiness... and then admit them all at once in one big bang?"

And then you'll be wondering why the hell we hit another blockade this spring and get told: you can only join the EU alongside Mexico. If you don't like it, we don't want you...

Just keep voting however Mislav Bago tells you to. I guess if Bago were actually running my political life, I'd just end it all by setting myself on fire in the middle of Times Square... 😳
I honestly don't see what the issue is with Jović's position.
As for Bago... look, Josipović is clearly the most popular politician based on every damn poll out there.
I honestly don't see what the issue is with Jović's position.
As for Bago... look, Josipović is clearly the most popular politician based on every damn poll out there.
The thing is, nobody ever bothers to mention who is actually conducting these polls, what kind of demographic is responding to them, or whether the sample size is even remotely representative of the general public.
dustypuma5 dustypuma5 Active Member
111 messages
joined Apr 2013
#82 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:Every single poll out there shows those two options don't have any serious opposition fighting them. ☕

You guys go ahead and vote based on whatever the polls say, then act all shocked when the President of America is getting advice from someone with this kind of mindset:

"Wouldn't it be better," Jović asks back on January 11, 2009, "to wait until all countries reach a similar level of readiness... and then admit them all at once in one big bang?"

And then you'll be wondering why the hell we hit another blockade this spring and get told: you can only join the EU alongside Mexico. If you don't like it, we don't want you...

Just keep voting however Mislav Bago tells you to. I guess if Bago were actually running my political life, I'd just end it all by setting myself on fire in the middle of Times Square... 😳
You guys go ahead and vote based on whatever the polls say, then act all shocked when the President of America is getting advice from someone with this kind of mindset:

"Wouldn't it be better," Jović asks back on January 11, 2009, "to wait until all countries reach a similar level of readiness... and then admit them all at once in one big bang?"

And then you'll be wondering why the hell we hit another blockade this spring and get told: you can only join the EU alongside Mexico. If you don't like it, we don't want you...

Just keep voting however Mislav Bago tells you to. I guess if Bago were actually running my political life, I'd just end it all by setting myself on fire in the middle of Times Square... 😳
I honestly don't see what the issue is with Jović's position.
As for Bago... look, Josipović is clearly the most popular politician based on every damn poll out there.
I honestly don't see what the issue is with Jović's position.
As for Bago... look, Josipović is clearly the most popular politician based on every damn poll out there.
That’s exactly the point. You and people like you are the actual problem with this country. It’s not Mexicans, or Britons, or extremists, or Germans, or Muslims, or even Obama—it’s you guys...

The ones who'd sell your own soul for pennies to the first person who comes along...

It's a tough fix, I guess, because it's part of US. Unfortunately.

But whatever, everything will work itself out eventually. 🙂
Jerry Wood5 Jerry Wood5 Member
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joined Mar 2013
#83 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:Every single poll out there shows those two options don't have any serious opposition fighting them. ☕

You guys go ahead and vote based on whatever the polls say, then act all shocked when the President of America is getting advice from someone with this kind of mindset:

"Wouldn't it be better," Jović asks back on January 11, 2009, "to wait until all countries reach a similar level of readiness... and then admit them all at once in one big bang?"

And then you'll be wondering why the hell we hit another blockade this spring and get told: you can only join the EU alongside Mexico. If you don't like it, we don't want you...

Just keep voting however Mislav Bago tells you to. I guess if Bago were actually running my political life, I'd just end it all by setting myself on fire in the middle of Times Square... 😳
You guys go ahead and vote based on whatever the polls say, then act all shocked when the President of America is getting advice from someone with this kind of mindset:

"Wouldn't it be better," Jović asks back on January 11, 2009, "to wait until all countries reach a similar level of readiness... and then admit them all at once in one big bang?"

And then you'll be wondering why the hell we hit another blockade this spring and get told: you can only join the EU alongside Mexico. If you don't like it, we don't want you...

Just keep voting however Mislav Bago tells you to. I guess if Bago were actually running my political life, I'd just end it all by setting myself on fire in the middle of Times Square... 😳
I honestly don't see what the issue is with Jović's position.
As for Bago... look, Josipović is clearly the most popular politician based on every damn poll out there.
I honestly don't see what the issue is with Jović's position.
As for Bago... look, Josipović is clearly the most popular politician based on every damn poll out there.
Oh, please—forget those polls. You know how it goes; it’s just housewives answering the phone in between episodes of their favorite soap operas.😁
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
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#84 ·
Jerry Wood5 said:Yeah, we're talking about the Republican Party that handed Gotovina over to the Hague.

Actually, the law regarding cooperation with the Hague was signed by the Democratic Party government.👎
Back in 2007, the Democratic Party was trailing behind the Republican Party in the elections. Fast forward to today, and according to every single poll out there, they’ve surged ahead to become the number one party. ☕
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
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#85 ·
Jerry Wood5 said:I honestly don't see what the issue is with Jović's position.
As for Bago... look, Josipović is clearly the most popular politician based on every damn poll out there.

Oh, please—forget those polls. You know how it goes; it’s just housewives answering the phone in between episodes of their favorite soap operas.😁
Every single poll leading up to the election suggested Josipović would take the presidency—and he did, much to the chagrin of a small group of American nationalists. ☕
Lawrence Thompson58 Lawrence Thompson58 Active Member
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#86 ·
Jerry Wood5 said:Yeah, we're talking about the Republican Party that handed Gotovina over to the Hague.

Actually, the law regarding cooperation with the Hague was signed by the Democratic Party government.👎
Of course, America had no choice but to honor its international cooperation obligations with them—agreements that were originally spearheaded by the Republican Party and, frankly, the Financial Times itself. 😂

Let’s be real here: the Democratic Party didn't actually "negotiate" anything. They just rubber-stamped a cooperation agreement that was handed to them on a silver platter once the court was established—an agreement cooked up by the hardcore Republican Party loyalists, specifically those true believers following the Harmon line. The only reason they played along is because they were terrified. They realized that if they didn't cooperate, they wouldn't just be watching from the sidelines; they would eventually find themselves staring down the barrel of an indictment themselves. Once it became crystal clear that they were going to be targets of the investigation too, they immediately pivoted to obstructionism. They were willing to tank the country's international standing and face total isolation just to save their own skins.
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active MemberOP
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#87 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:Every single poll out there shows those two options don't have any serious opposition fighting them. ☕

It’s because most citizens in America possess a herd mentality—it's always "us" versus "them."

People vote out of pure inertia:

- those who identify as "patriots," conservatives, or right-wingers cast their votes for the Republican Party,
- while those who see themselves as "Americans," leftists, or old-school partisans vote for the Democratic Party;

yet neither side realizes—or perhaps chooses to ignore—that these aren't ideological factions, but rather a clientelist gang fighting solely for their own seats and bank accounts.

How can a conservative justify voting for a party that pushes them toward a supranational superstate designed to strip away sovereignty and erase national and cultural identity?

And how can a leftist support the very same entity, which functions as a dictatorship of big capital, stripping away workers' rights and driving people into debt slavery?

The worst part is hearing people say, "I've voted for the Republican Party (or the Democratic Party) in every election, so I'll do it again." 😠 This isn't like supporting Dinamo or Hajduk where you cheer regardless of the score. This concerns your life and the future of your children. If you have concluded they are thieves, punish them at the ballot box.
It’s because most citizens in America possess a herd mentality—it's always "us" versus "them."

People vote out of pure inertia:

- those who identify as "patriots," conservatives, or right-wingers cast their votes for the Republican Party,
- while those who see themselves as "Americans," leftists, or old-school partisans vote for the Democratic Party;

yet neither side realizes—or perhaps chooses to ignore—that these aren't ideological factions, but rather a clientelist gang fighting solely for their own seats and bank accounts.

How can a conservative justify voting for a party that pushes them toward a supranational superstate designed to strip away sovereignty and erase national and cultural identity?

And how can a leftist support the very same entity, which functions as a dictatorship of big capital, stripping away workers' rights and driving people into debt slavery?

The worst part is hearing people say, "I've voted for the Republican Party (or the Democratic Party) in every election, so I'll do it again." 😠 This isn't like supporting Dinamo or Hajduk where you cheer regardless of the score. This concerns your life and the future of your children. If you have concluded they are thieves, punish them at the ballot box.
Democracy isn't perfect, but it’s still the best system we've got.

What you and your crowd are really looking for is a nationalist dictatorship, but let's be real: that's never going to happen. ☕
Democracy isn't perfect, but it’s still the best system we've got.

What you and your crowd are really looking for is a nationalist dictatorship, but let's be real: that's never going to happen. ☕

Just one tiny correction here—you're actually living in an elitocracy right now.
It's a pretty small distinction, really. 🤣
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
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#88 ·
dustypuma5 said:I honestly don't see what the issue is with Jović's position.
As for Bago... look, Josipović is clearly the most popular politician based on every damn poll out there.

That’s exactly the point. You and people like you are the actual problem with this country. It’s not Mexicans, or Britons, or extremists, or Germans, or Muslims, or even Obama—it’s you guys...

The ones who'd sell your own soul for pennies to the first person who comes along...

It's a tough fix, I guess, because it's part of US. Unfortunately.

But whatever, everything will work itself out eventually. 🙂
We’re the majority, and we make the calls. That’s just how democracy works. Long live Ivo Josipović! 👍
dustypuma5 dustypuma5 Active Member
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#89 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:We’re the majority, and we make the calls. That’s just how democracy works. Long live Ivo Josipović! 👍

...all thanks to Mislav Bago's expert advice.

Honestly, maybe this country shouldn't even exist if this is what the majority looks like...
😁
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
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#90 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Democracy isn't perfect, but it’s still the best system we've got.

What you and your crowd are really looking for is a nationalist dictatorship, but let's be real: that's never going to happen. ☕


Just one tiny correction here—you're actually living in an elitocracy right now.
It's a pretty small distinction, really. 🤣
Look, I already admitted that democracy isn't perfect.

But along with democracy, we got capitalism, which is clearly working in our favor.
So, regardless of how you label the system or what you call the country—the right wing will always be the ones pulling the strings. 😁
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#91 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:We’re the majority, and we make the calls. That’s just how democracy works. Long live Ivo Josipović! 👍

One shouldn't act surprised, though, if the Z4 plan somehow resurfaces in a few years, or if America finds itself forced to pay war reparations to Mexico and Canada, ultimately facing condemnation for the collapse of America and the genocide against Mexicans and Canadians.😠
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
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#92 ·
dustypuma5 said:...all thanks to Mislav Bago's expert advice.

Honestly, maybe this country shouldn't even exist if this is what the majority looks like...
😁

Why? Because the name of the state doesn't matter to them; all they care about is staying in power. ☕
dustypuma5 dustypuma5 Active Member
111 messages
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#93 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:Look, I already admitted that democracy isn't perfect.

But along with democracy, we got capitalism, which is clearly working in our favor.
So, regardless of how you label the system or what you call the country—the right wing will always be the ones pulling the strings. 😁

No way. The right is still the majority anyway. But I guess you guys managed to mess them up a bit with some "divide and conquer" operation.

But even if you have a solid right wing, the Democratic Party is never going to take power. The right in America holds about 45% of the room.

Do you honestly think that by tanking the Republican Party, those people will just vanish or suddenly start voting for the Democrats?
Keep dreaming...
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
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#94 ·
neonhound18 said:One shouldn't act surprised, though, if the Z4 plan somehow resurfaces in a few years, or if America finds itself forced to pay war reparations to Mexico and Canada, ultimately facing condemnation for the collapse of America and the genocide against Mexicans and Canadians.😠

What are you even talking about with this Z4 nonsense? Wake up.
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
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#95 ·
dustypuma5 said:No way. The right is still the majority anyway. But I guess you guys managed to mess them up a bit with some "divide and conquer" operation.

But even if you have a solid right wing, the Democratic Party is never going to take power. The right in America holds about 45% of the room.

Do you honestly think that by tanking the Republican Party, those people will just vanish or suddenly start voting for the Democrats?
Keep dreaming...

The Democratic Party has already held power before—they even put Josipović in the White House—and according to every poll out there, they’re the strongest party. What are you even talking about? 🤦
Jerry Wood5 Jerry Wood5 Member
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#96 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:Every single poll leading up to the election suggested Josipović would take the presidency—and he did, much to the chagrin of a small group of American nationalists. ☕

Well, those "small groups" of American nationalists were the ones who actually beat you and your political buddies during the American Civil War—along with the insurgent militias.☕
dustypuma5 dustypuma5 Active Member
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#97 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:The Democratic Party has already held power before—they even put Josipović in the White House—and according to every poll out there, they’re the strongest party. What are you even talking about? 🤦

It’s just because right-wing voters aren't backing the Republican Party. They realized it's basically just a faction of the Democratic Party.

If they actually have someone worth voting for next time, the right will probably take over again... maybe this time it won't be fake-right like the Republicans. 🙂

Keep dreaming about a left-wing America. It'll only happen if there's a real left-wing party out there actually fighting for the National Interest. I might even vote for something like that, I guess. 😉
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active MemberOP
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#98 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:Why? Because the name of the state doesn't matter to them; all they care about is staying in power. ☕


they could go try ruling from Alcatraz for all I care 🤣
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
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#99 ·
Jerry Wood5 said:Well, those "small groups" of American nationalists were the ones who actually beat you and your political buddies during the American Civil War—along with the insurgent militias.☕

It wasn't just the hardcore nationalists who stepped up during the war. It wasn't even just Americans defending the country; you had people from all kinds of minority backgrounds picking up rifles and fighting right alongside them.
So, look, just don't go talking nonsense.
Jerry Wood5 Jerry Wood5 Member
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#100 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:It wasn't just the hardcore nationalists who stepped up during the war. It wasn't even just Americans defending the country; you had people from all kinds of minority backgrounds picking up rifles and fighting right alongside them.
So, look, just don't go talking nonsense.

Alright then, why don't you give me the names and specific combat paths of those Mexicans who were out there defending America? ☕ I mean, if you lost, you're entitled to be bitter—isn't that right, Robin Mendoza6?😉

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