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Anyone still running Windows 7?

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restlesslynx8 restlesslynx8 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2012
#2301 ·
Keith Bennett38 said:Could we be looking at a lack of RAM here?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...m-requirements

I don't know... I remember one time—it might have been a few years back—when I installed Windows 7 on a machine with just 512MB of RAM... and honestly, it seemed to run perfectly fine...
Douglas Garcia52 Douglas Garcia52 Newcomer
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#2302 ·
restlesslynx8 said:I mean, I don't know... I tossed Windows 7 onto a rig with 512MB of RAM the other day... and it actually ran fine...

How is that even possible? My system is already eating up 758MB of RAM just sitting there 😂

You really shouldn't be touching Windows 7 on any machine with less than 1GB of RAM. Like, 1GB is the bare minimum, period.
Those old relics with 512MB of RAM? Honestly, just leave them running Windows XP. They'll perform way better than if you try to torture them by forcing Windows 7 on them. 👍
restlesslynx8 restlesslynx8 Newcomer
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#2303 ·
Douglas Garcia52 said:How on earth is it supposed to run smoothly when the OS itself is gobbling up 758MB of RAM? 😂

Look, honestly—regardless of which version you're talking about—installing Windows 7 on a machine with less than 1GB of RAM is just asking for trouble. You need at least 1GB, minimum,
those old relics with only 512MB of RAM? They’re better off staying on Windows XP—seriously, they'll actually perform better there than if you try to force them to run Windows 7. 👍

Actually, 1GB isn't even the bare minimum requirement; that's more like the recommended starting point... anyway. I've managed to get Windows 7 running on 512MB before—I've done it myself—but, well, I'm slowly coming to terms with the fact that it's probably a bad idea to keep trying to install it on these machines. 😂

Long story short, I'm having issues getting Windows XP to install right now, so I'm suspecting it might be a failing hard drive... I'll have to see. 🙄
Douglas Garcia52 Douglas Garcia52 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2010
#2304 ·
restlesslynx8 said:Look, 1GB of RAM isn't even the bare minimum, it's more like what they suggest... whatever. I mean, the thing actually runs on 512MB because I've done it before, but honestly? I'm starting to give up on trying to squeeze 😂
onto this junk.
Anyway, now I'm having issues installing Windows XP, so I'm thinking the hard drive is shot... we'll see how it goes... 🙄

Sure, you can try to install it, but how much time do you want to waste waiting ten minutes just for the system to boot up?
You really need at least 1GB of RAM if you want to run Windows 7 properly.

Check out this tool—you can actually use it to check if your rig is even compatible with Windows 7 before you waste your time installing it.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...e-advisor.aspx
Taylor Morales31 Taylor Morales31 Member
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joined May 2014
#2305 ·
I wouldn't bet a single cent that Windows 7 is actually going to run smoothly on just 512MB of RAM.
It’s not like you’re just installing the OS and nothing else; you aren't just running the OS in a vacuum. You've got an entire ecosystem of programs fighting for resources—antivirus software, web browsers, media players, network drivers, blah, blah, blah. (For instance, my Chrome browser is sitting at 166MB right now, and if I try to fire up SAS at the same time, it demands over 100MB on top of that. What exactly are we talking about here? That alone eats up half of a 512MB limit! Where is the system supposed to pull more memory from when things get heavy? It can't. There simply isn't any left.)

It makes absolutely zero sense to even attempt this. Even Windows XP, when you throw modern software at it—software designed with contemporary solutions that demand increasingly massive amounts of RAM—
it barely stays alive.👍
Joshua Garcia3 Joshua Garcia3 Active Member
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joined Jun 2008
#2306 ·
restlesslynx8 said:I don't know... I installed Windows 7 on a machine with 512MB of RAM once... and it worked fine enough...

I agree. I tried running it on a Pentium 4 2.4 GHz with 512 MB of RAM myself, and it actually functioned...
Taylor Morales31 said:I wouldn't bet money on Windows 7 being usable with just 512MB of RAM,
since you aren't just installing the OS and calling it a day. It isn't just the system eating up the memory either; you've got all these other programs—antivirus, browsers, media players, network services, blah, blah. (For instance, Opera is pulling about 166MB of RAM on my end right now, and if I try to launch SAS at the same time, it needs over 100MB. That’s already half of those 512MB gone. Where is the system supposed to pull more from then? Nowhere, because there simply isn't any left.)

It makes zero sense to do it, because even Windows XP struggles to breathe when you start running modern software that demands more and more RAM these days.
👍

...but I'm totally with Taylor Morales31 on this one. Once you start adding Microsoft Office and other essential software, the whole thing becomes problematic, if not outright impossible.🙄
Douglas Garcia52 Douglas Garcia52 Newcomer
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#2307 ·
Honestly, if it’s anything less than 1Gb, I wouldn't even bother recommending it to anyone. 😁
Douglas Hall34 Douglas Hall34 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2008
#2308 ·
Hey everyone!

So, I’ve run into a bit of a headache. I have a machine running Windows 7, and I'm testing out an upgrade, but now the webcam just won't cooperate. I've already installed the driver, but the second I try to turn the camera on, the whole system just crashes into a Blue Screen of Death. It’s like this loop—we try to get the connection established, things seem to be moving along okay for a split second, and then—bam—blue screen, and everything shuts down. It’s like trying to start a car that dies the moment you hit the gas. Does anyone know what I need to do to fix this and get the camera working properly? Thanks!
Douglas Garcia52 Douglas Garcia52 Newcomer
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#2309 ·
Kate Garcia67 said:Hey there.

So I've got this one issue. Running Windows 7 right now, but I'm trying something else and the camera just won't cooperate. I've already installed the driver, but the second I try to turn it on, boom—Blue Screen of Death. We've tried a bunch of times to get the webcam to actually connect, but it's useless. It starts to look okay for a split second, then everything just crashes into a blue screen and shuts down. Anyone have any clue what needs to be done to fix this camera mess? Thanks!

laptop or desktop
Douglas Hall34 Douglas Hall34 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2008
#2310 ·
computer
Douglas Garcia52 Douglas Garcia52 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2010
#2311 ·
Kate Garcia67 said:computer

Just try grabbing the latest drivers for your camera,
wipe out the old ones, install the new stuff, and reboot the computer

then see if it’s still acting up
driftingmarlin70 driftingmarlin70 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2010
#2312 ·
It's a computer, not a "computer" ...☕
Terry Edwards8 Terry Edwards8 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2012
#2313 ·
So, I've run into a bit of a headache. I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit on my laptop—it's a legitimate copy, by the way—and the specs are roughly about this:

AMD Athlon II Dual-Core M300 2.00GHz (1MB cache)
ATI Radeon HD4570 512MB
2x 2GB DDR2 667MHz 320GB SATA

Everything runs perfectly fine until I actually try to open Photoshop CS2. Even if I’m just sitting there doing absolutely nothing, Photoshop somehow manages to gobble up every last drop of RAM within about fifteen minutes. I've even tried limiting the memory usage in the preferences, but when I check the Task Manager, the usage just keeps climbing until it hits the 4GB limit and then—boom—Photoshop crashes. This only happens when Photoshop is active; if I fire up Adobe Premiere instead, everything works totally normally, no issues at all. I initially figured the installation was just buggy, so I uninstalled it and tried a different version, but yeah, same story. It clearly isn't the install itself. I did some digging online and saw I'm not the only one dealing with this, but I haven't found any actual, sensible explanations or fixes. The only thing I noticed is that everyone mentioning this specific issue seems to be using Windows 7. Interestingly enough, I have the exact same version of Photoshop running on my old Windows XP machine without a single hiccup.
Douglas Hall34 Douglas Hall34 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2008
#2314 ·
Yeah, I already tried doing a full uninstall and then reinstalled the latest version, but it’s still acting up. Oh, I totally forgot to mention—the camera actually has the microphone built right into it. The audio works perfectly fine; it's just the video feed that's being glitchy.
Douglas Garcia52 Douglas Garcia52 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2010
#2315 ·
driftingmarlin70 said:It's a computer, not some weird tech jargon...☕

Whatever, man. If you really want to get technical about it, it's a PC. 😁
Douglas Garcia52 Douglas Garcia52 Newcomer
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#2316 ·
Kate Garcia67 said:Yeah, I tried the whole old-school uninstall and reinstalling the latest version, but still nothing. Oh, forgot to mention—the mic is built right into the camera. Audio sounds fine, everything, it’s just the video feed that's acting up.

That's weird... audio works perfectly but the picture is trashed? 🤷
Does your camera have some kind of image enhancement setting? Usually there's a little button, maybe shaped like a circle or something, if it even has one.
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#2317 ·
Megan Jones69 said:I'm running into an issue. I've got a laptop running Windows 7 home Premium 64 (it's a legitimate license, don't worry), and the specs are roughly this:

Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.00GHz (1MB cache)
ATI Radeon HD4570 512MB
2x 2GB DDR2 667MHz 320GB SATA

Everything runs perfectly fine—until I launch Photoshop CS2. Even if I'm just sitting there doing absolutely nothing, Photoshop starts gobbling up every bit of RAM I have within about fifteen minutes. I've actually gone into the preferences and limited how much memory it can grab, but when I check Task Manager, the usage just climbs straight up to 4GB until the whole thing crashes.

Have you tried bumping up the Windows page file size? Also, double-check those Photoshop settings—specifically the RAM allocation and the scratch disk configuration.
Douglas Hall34 Douglas Hall34 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2008
#2318 ·
Yeah, I found it super weird too—like, the audio starts working just fine, but then there’s absolutely no video. It’s like when you pick up a Skype call, the sound kicks in immediately and the other person can hear everything perfectly, but the second you try to toggle the camera on, the whole system just hits a Blue Screen of Death and dies. It basically forces Skype into an offline state. Plus, if I try using the actual webcam software to mess with the settings, I get that preview window where you're supposed to see the feed, but the exact same thing happens: as soon as the video tries to load, boom, blue screen, and the program crashes. As for the physical button on the device itself, that’s just for taking basic snapshots. If I open the camera app and hit that button, it’s supposed to snap a photo, but man, everything worked flawlessly back when I was running Windows XP.
Douglas Garcia52 Douglas Garcia52 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2010
#2319 ·
Kate Garcia67 said:It felt weird to me too... like, the audio works fine now, but there's zero video. Like, when you pick up a Skype call, the sound kicks in immediately—the other person can hear everything perfectly—but the second you try to turn on the camera, boom, blue screen of death, and everything just dies. It’s like the camera crash forces Skype straight offline. Plus, I tried opening the actual webcam software to mess with the settings, you know? There's supposed to be a preview window to see if it's working, but the exact same thing happens. As soon as the video tries to load, blue screen, program crashes. And about that button on the camera itself? Yeah, it's there, but it's just for those old-school manual snapshots. You open the software, hit the button, and it takes a picture. Everything worked just fine back when I was running Windows XP.

I honestly have no clue what's going on here. 🤷
If everything were actually functioning correctly, you'd at least see a video feed in the webcam app when you run a test.

Try this: go to Start, type in "Device Manager," open it up, and check the webcam entry. See if there's a little yellow icon next to it—like an exclamation point or a question mark or whatever.
Douglas Hall34 Douglas Hall34 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2008
#2320 ·
No, no, there isn’t any yellow icon; everything looks fine on my end. Ah, okay, I think I can manage to get this sorted out somehow... hopefully. Hmm. Anyway, thank you so much for all the hard work and for taking the time to help me out. 😉 🙂

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