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Participants Morgan WilliamsRachel Cooper3Joseph Clark37Keith Patel81darkseal9neonfalcon16urbanhawk17Amanda Evans2bluebison47brightpilot6Patrick MartinJoseph Fisher3steelharbor9Robin Fox2Maria AndersonAnthony Jackson2Jason Newmanruggedjackal46Michelle Palmer6Jeffrey Edwards76Jason Campbell70Anthony Barrett37graniteangler31Dennis Evans6 …
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jul 2012
#3381 ·
Kyle Vaughn8 said:Is there a thread just for Ibrahimović? I mean—if Suker has his own spot 🤷

Look, Dalglish is a brand—Ibrahimovic is just a player.🤷
Kyle Vaughn8 Kyle Vaughn8 Active Member
62 messages
joined Mar 2015
#3382 ·
Eric Fox7 said:Look, Dalglish is a brand—Ibrahimovic is just a player.🤷

hmm.
Robin Fox2 Robin Fox2 Regular
523 messages
joined Apr 2016
#3383 ·
Could someone please enlighten me on this solar eclipse business, specifically why one isn't supposed to look directly at it when... 🤣 naturally, the sunlight loses its usual blinding intensity during the event 😕 🤣
Jessica Johnson2 Jessica Johnson2 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#3384 ·
Robin Fox2 said:Could someone please enlighten me on this solar eclipse business, specifically why one isn't supposed to look directly at it when... 🤣 naturally, the sunlight loses its usual blinding intensity during the event 😕 🤣

Because those UV rays will straight up fry your retinas! The reason you usually have to squint when looking at the sun is just your body trying to protect itself. The sun isn't actually any dimmer, you're just seeing a smaller sliver of that intense glare... and it'll wreck your eyes fast 🙂
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
598 messages
joined Jun 2013
#3385 ·
yeah, but how is UV gonna fry my eyes if we can't even see ultraviolet light? 🤣 so it could still cook them even if I've got my back turned 😕 🤣
Jessica Johnson2 Jessica Johnson2 Member
20 messages
joined Feb 2010
#3386 ·
Matthew Anderson4 said:yeah, but how is UV gonna fry my eyes if we can't even see ultraviolet light? 🤣 so it could still cook them even if I've got my back turned 😕 🤣

Not sure if you're trolling here...
You're still gonna be staring 🤣right at the Sun, it's just mostly blocked out.
edit:

Watching the sun during an eclipse is actually riskier than just looking at the regular sun. That darkness from the eclipse messes with your instinct to squint or look away, which means way more UV hits your retina. It's super easy to get damaged even if you're only seeing a tiny sliver of light. Your cornea basically acts like a lens that focuses that sunlight straight onto the retina and scorches it. And since the retina doesn't have any pain receptors, you won't even realize you've fried your eyes until it's already too late...
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
598 messages
joined Jun 2013
#3387 ·
so basically can I stare into the dark without issues if I just act like I'm looking at regular sunlight instead of bugging out staring directly at the sun like an idiot for five minutes?🤔
Robin Fox2 Robin Fox2 Regular
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joined Apr 2016
#3388 ·
Jessica Johnson2 said:Because those UV rays will straight up fry your retinas! The reason you usually have to squint when looking at the sun is just your body trying to protect itself. The sun isn't actually any dimmer, you're just seeing a smaller sliver of that intense glare... and it'll wreck your eyes fast 🙂

I don't quite follow. For instance, today the sunlight was fairly weak, so I was looking toward the Sun around 4 PM with my sunglasses on without any issues. Does that mean the Sun is somehow tricking me into thinking it's weaker so I can look at it while it secretly destroys my retinas? How long does it take to cause damage—if it's instantaneous, I won't linger too long, assuming I'd notice immediately if I went blind? Or will the damage happen without me even realizing it, and when would I actually notice that my vision is gone 😬?

I'm not joking around here; I'm asking seriously because I was genuinely curious. Purely theoretical, of course...
Jessica Johnson2 Jessica Johnson2 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#3389 ·
Matthew Anderson4 said:so basically can I stare into the dark without issues if I just act like I'm looking at regular sunlight instead of bugging out staring directly at the sun like an idiot for five minutes?🤔

Robin Fox2 said:I don't quite follow. For instance, today the sunlight was fairly weak, so I was looking toward the Sun around 4 PM with my sunglasses on without any issues. Does that mean the Sun is somehow tricking me into thinking it's weaker so I can look at it while it secretly destroys my retinas? How long does it take to cause damage—if it's instantaneous, I won't linger too long, assuming I'd notice immediately if I went blind? Or will the damage happen without me even realizing it, and when would I actually notice that my vision is gone 😬?

I'm not joking around here; I'm asking seriously because I was genuinely curious. Purely theoretical, of course...

Look, just check it first, alright? Don't go bullshitting him like some clueless rookie... seriously. From what I gather, it’s just as bad as staring straight at the sun, except you can't even look away before it blinds you because you don't realize it's happening. How long you can actually stare at it before things go south? Honestly, who knows... I'm no doctor... 🤣
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
598 messages
joined Jun 2013
#3390 ·
I'm just messing around, I've been blind since I was four lol
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#3391 ·
Whatever.
Robin Fox2 Robin Fox2 Regular
523 messages
joined Apr 2016
#3392 ·
Jessica Johnson2 said:Look, just check it first, alright? Don't go bullshitting him like some clueless rookie... seriously. From what I gather, it’s just as bad as staring straight at the sun, except you can't even look away before it blinds you because you don't realize it's happening. How long you can actually stare at it before things go south? Honestly, who knows... I'm no doctor... 🤣

That tracks, though when you're dealing with the actual sun, you physically can't help but squint, so I'm more curious about the timeframe in which ocular damage would actually manifest... 😁 Do we need to consult a doctor, Michelle Palmer6? Or perhaps a physicist, though I'm certainly not an expert on those matters either...😢
Zachary Nguyen2 Zachary Nguyen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2014
#3393 ·
Robin Fox2 said:That tracks, though when you're dealing with the actual sun, you physically can't help but squint, so I'm more curious about the timeframe in which ocular damage would actually manifest... 😁 Do we need to consult a doctor, Michelle Palmer6? Or perhaps a physicist, though I'm certainly not an expert on those matters either...😢

You can stare straight into the sun. You just have to focus for a second and you'll see it perfectly clear. 🙂
bluebison47 bluebison47 Regular
469 messages
joined Jul 2012
#3394 ·
Robin Fox2 said:That tracks, though when you're dealing with the actual sun, you physically can't help but squint, so I'm more curious about the timeframe in which ocular damage would actually manifest... 😁 Do we need to consult a doctor, Michelle Palmer6? Or perhaps a physicist, though I'm certainly not an expert on those matters either...😢

I suppose you could just go ahead and test it out yourself tomorrow... if you really want to. Then, I guess, once you actually notice some kind of shift or change, you might want to let us all know. Maybe. ☕
Amanda Evans2 Amanda Evans2 Veteran
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joined Nov 2014
#3395 ·
when that darkness finally consumes everything

go ahead, stare right into it... maybe you'll actually see something for once
Amanda Evans2 Amanda Evans2 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Nov 2014
#3396 ·
I have this one friend who watches the movie Twilight: Eclipse, and he’s completely blind—but then suddenly, he sees everything. That is the raw, unvarnished truth...
Amanda Evans2 Amanda Evans2 Veteran
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joined Nov 2014
#3397 ·
Can one truly argue that a blind man sees?
mellowotter36 mellowotter36 Active Member
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joined Dec 2017
#3398 ·
Amanda Evans2 said:I have this one friend who watches the movie Twilight: Eclipse, and he’s completely blind—but then suddenly, he sees everything. That is the raw, unvarnished truth...

There's actually an American film critic who is blind. Check this out:

👍
bluebison47 bluebison47 Regular
469 messages
joined Jul 2012
#3399 ·
Amanda Evans2 said:Can one truly argue that a blind man sees?

They watch, but they don't truly see.

They see, yet they don't hear. ☕
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jul 2012
#3400 ·
Robin Fox2 said:That tracks, though when you're dealing with the actual sun, you physically can't help but squint, so I'm more curious about the timeframe in which ocular damage would actually manifest... 😁 Do we need to consult a doctor, Michelle Palmer6? Or perhaps a physicist, though I'm certainly not an expert on those matters either...😢

You’d really have to ask Miller—though, knowing him, he’ll probably just insist there are two suns in the sky. ☕

I was digging through some old archives today—you know how it goes, one rabbit hole leads to another—and I stumbled upon this piece about "The Second Sun." It’s one of those deep dives that really makes you pause and rethink everything we take for granted about our perception of reality. It’s a bit of a trip, honestly. The author gets into these heavy philosophical waters, questioning whether what we see is actually the full picture or if we're just looking at a filtered version of existence. It reminds me of that old sci-fi trope where the protagonist realizes the sky isn't actually blue, it's just how our eyes interpret the light—kind of like how we assume certain social structures are "natural" when they're really just layers of paint over a much messier truth. There’s a specific section on the concept of duality that stuck with me. The idea that for every "sun" or primary truth we experience, there’s a shadow or a secondary force working behind the scenes. It’s very much in line with that classic American transcendentalist vibe—think Emerson or Thoreau—where you're constantly trying to peel back the surface of nature to find the spiritual core underneath. But instead of looking at trees and ponds, we're looking at the fabric of consciousness itself. I found myself drifting off into a tangent about how much of our modern life is built on these "secondary suns"—these manufactured realities we inhabit through screens and media. We think we're seeing the world, but we're often just seeing a highly curated projection designed to keep us looking in one direction. Anyway, it’s a dense read. Not for everyone, especially if you prefer your philosophy served without a side of existential dread, but if you have an afternoon to kill and want to feel slightly more confused about the universe than when you started, give it a look. Just don't blame me when you start staring at the ceiling at 2 AM wondering if the light in the room is even "real."

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