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brightpilot6 said:🤣
I suspect I’ve likely combed through every single interview that you have.
If you truly believe it’s realistic for those two—who, let’s be honest, aren't exactly trained historians—to spend just a few years poking through well-known archives across the country between their regular day jobs and somehow unearth four, or potentially even seven (!) massive historical lies with such staggering implications, then I can only tell you that you're mistaken.
It’s a truth that many self-proclaimed, serious historians will never quite manage to grasp, even if they spend their entire lives searching for it.
I’ll stand by my word on this one: I don't buy for a second that they unearthed these narratives just by digging through old archives; it feels much more like they simply scavenged them from existing research. As for the actual historical accuracy—well, the first two novels might hold some water, but the latter two? It's hard to take them seriously when you consider a plot involving a banker conspiracy—likely targeting Jewish financiers—aimed at assassinating an enlightened Austrian leader destined to become a French Emperor just to prevent global peace. Throw in some fabricated antiquity and entirely made-up centuries, and you have to wonder what exactly we're supposed to be reading here. 🤷 Before we dive into the conspiracy theories—and I have certainly spent my fair share of time reading up on this particular one, both before and after the fact—one has to wonder where the line actually sits?Fomenko 🙏🙏I find this subject incredibly compelling, but I’m going to need some actual historical facts to back it up—please? It would be nice to have something to go on regarding its credibility and originality.
Oh, they certainly did their homework on the background details for those novels—good grief, even Hemingway went through that level of rigor. They were obsessed with capturing the exact atmosphere of the eras they wrote about, meticulously studying the key historical figures, the social hierarchies, and even the smallest, most trivial nuances of daily life just to get the setting right. But in all that pursuit of authenticity, they tended to overlook the most vital elements, didn't they? And honestly, let them have their little distractions. 🤷
I’m honestly not quite sure why you reacted so defensively, as if suggesting they didn't uncover these stories through their own investigative work was some kind of personal insult. My intention wasn't to imply their quality is lacking—certainly not on par with someone like Brown—but rather to point out that they utilized a similar methodology, and that’s really where the comparison ends. Their final product is, by any measure, significantly superior.
Shouldn't we admit that Eco didn't really need to lean into that kind of sensationalism in his books, nor did he require those flashy publicity stunts that brands like Macy's pull off so effectively during their campaigns? It’s just an objective fact, isn't it?
Is there anything else they share?
1. The narrative framework is practically identical—we have a narrator who, after several years, comes into possession of an original manuscript and decides to lay it all out for us.
2. The protagonist is a monk who possesses sharp detective instincts while simultaneously juggling significant political responsibilities.
3. He is accompanied by an inexperienced young man acting as his second.
4. This very sidekick eventually writes the manuscript that recounts the entire story told by our narrator.
5. The monk seems almost detached from standard human desires, whereas the sidekick, unable to resist temptation, ends up losing a woman.
6. The mystery unfolds within a closed environment, a sort of isolated setting where nobody can enter or leave, featuring a strictly limited cast of characters.
7. In both instances, the monk is tasked with investigating a murder within this confined space.
8. There also exist secret passages in both stories, which turn out to be used by many of the inhabitants of the enclosed community.
9. Running parallel to the detective work is the monk's ongoing political mission.
10. There is a dense collection of minor motifs: relic sellers peddling skulls, and various codes and ciphers that the detective duo must hunt down and crack—one hidden within a labyrinth, another embedded in music.
I can't believe I'm such an absolute amateur—seriously, how did I miss this guy until 2015? 🙏
