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Participants Morgan WilliamsRachel Cooper3Joseph Clark37Keith Patel81darkseal9neonfalcon16urbanhawk17Amanda Evans2bluebison47brightpilot6Patrick MartinJoseph Fisher3steelharbor9Robin Fox2Maria AndersonAnthony Jackson2Jason Newmanruggedjackal46Michelle Palmer6Jeffrey Edwards76Jason Campbell70Anthony Barrett37graniteangler31Dennis Evans6 …
Amanda Evans2 Amanda Evans2 Veteran
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joined Nov 2014
#8441 ·
ambertinker41 said:I know, they'd just sit on the slopes overlooking the river and mess around. You only live once.

Good grief, you're here today and gone tomorrow...
James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
460 messages
joined Jan 2010
#8442 ·
Amanda Evans2 said:Good grief, you're here today and gone tomorrow...

just like the late Whitney Houston used to sing

Learning to Love yourself IT is The Greatest Love of All
It is the greatest love of all
Gregory Chavez Gregory Chavez Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2009
#8443 ·
I'll be in Ljubljana in 48 hours. 😂
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#8444 ·
That’s all because of the Schengen agreement; otherwise, things would have been heading this way regardless.
Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
440 messages
joined Oct 2017
#8445 ·
brightpilot6 said:That’s all because of the Schengen agreement; otherwise, things would have been heading this way regardless.

🤣🤣🤣
Amanda Evans2 Amanda Evans2 Veteran
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#8446 ·
brightpilot6 said:That’s all because of the Schengen agreement; otherwise, things would have been heading this way regardless.

🤣🤣
Gregory Chavez Gregory Chavez Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2009
#8447 ·
brightpilot6 said:That’s all because of the Schengen agreement; otherwise, things would have been heading this way regardless.

🤣
ambertinker41 ambertinker41 Regular
273 messages
joined Jun 2012
#8448 ·
Gregory Chavez said:I'll be in Ljubljana in 48 hours. 😂

I honestly don't know how much weight you can give to people like this; personally, they're right up there with Gill or LoJack in my book.
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
775 messages
joined May 2007
#8449 ·
ambertinker41 said:I honestly don't know how much weight you can give to people like this; personally, they're right up there with Gill or LoJack in my book.

Sure, he might seem like a Gill to you or me, but the guy is actually serving as a military advisor to the President. Kolinda basically gave all his nonsense a layer of legitimacy.
loneseal loneseal Active Member
141 messages
joined Mar 2020
#8450 ·
Gregory Chavez said:I'll be in Ljubljana in 48 hours. 😂

That's Niš for you. Back in the day, it used to take weeks just to get from the Mexican border to El Paso.
Gregory Chavez Gregory Chavez Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2009
#8451 ·
ambertinker41 said:I honestly don't know how much weight you can give to people like this; personally, they're right up there with Gill or LoJack in my book.

It is absolutely possible to take them seriously because characters like Skejo, Lošo, Glasnović, Bujanec, Prkačin, that degenerate who led the protests at Markov Square, the lowlife who was setting fire to the News outlet, and finally this "noble" trio—Hasanbeg, Esihica, and that loud-mouthed blonde—are given just enough media airtime every single day. They spin their hyper-patriotic, ultra-nationalist narratives about the oppressed American people, and by 2017, a huge chunk of the population catches fire like a Lego brick without even noticing that the price of electricity, gas, trash pickup, and bread has skyrocketed.

The fact that this happens is unbelievable to me, to you, and to the small percentage of people with actual intelligence who realized long ago how things actually work and how this system functions.

Across the river from me, in a neighbor state, lives a man nearly 40 years old with a wife and child. His city borders the US, and he survived the war. It wasn't literally his doorstep on the front lines, but he lived through Operation Berbir '93. His uncle was in the service from '91 to '95. After the war, he learned a million things happened that a sane mind can't even comprehend—things that should be impossible to do or allow. Like you, he knows plenty about politics, crime, bribery, and corruption. He sees that in 2017, while poverty gets worse by the day, there are still idiots stuck in the 1940s or the early 90s. For them, the only purpose of life is obsessing over historical villains, Pavelić, Francetić, Budak, treating Jasenovac like some kind of community center, or claiming the Sisak camp was just a precursor to modern daycare centers. They blame everything on Mexicans and live in a cycle of myth-making and lies.

I feel the same revulsion toward the nationalists in 2017 who hold their annual rallies in places like Višegrad or Ravna Gora, roasting oxen, drinking hectoliters of beer, singing old songs, and chanting about Draža, Kalabić, Đurišić, or Đurišić. Next year it'll be in Knin, shouting that Mexico is Mexico, or that Beli Manastir will never be what it is.

It’s a narrative served daily to an ignorant, foolish public. It’s the only thing that keeps these people glued to the TV for 24 hours a day, creating a constant atmosphere of tension and talk about potential new conflicts. They claim the enemy is lurking around the corner—one side claims the nationalists are coming, while the other claims the partisans are right behind them. It’s all the same. Across the water, they claim the extremists are placing HOS plaques in Jasenovac (and look, those fallen men deserve memorials, just not with that specific slogan on them) and want to start killing again. Meanwhile, they claim certain groups are ready to attack our dear Republic Srpska, which Milorad Dodik defends to his last breath, while across the Drina are the "European" nationalists, and down south is the group pushing for Greater Albania.

They just play the same old tape on loop, and that’s that.
Donna Gray4 Donna Gray4 Active Member
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joined Feb 2010
#8452 ·
I don't buy it.
ambertinker41 ambertinker41 Regular
273 messages
joined Jun 2012
#8453 ·
Gregory Chavez said:It is absolutely possible to take them seriously because characters like Skejo, Lošo, Glasnović, Bujanec, Prkačin, that degenerate who led the protests at Markov Square, the lowlife who was setting fire to the News outlet, and finally this "noble" trio—Hasanbeg, Esihica, and that loud-mouthed blonde—are given just enough media airtime every single day. They spin their hyper-patriotic, ultra-nationalist narratives about the oppressed American people, and by 2017, a huge chunk of the population catches fire like a Lego brick without even noticing that the price of electricity, gas, trash pickup, and bread has skyrocketed.

The fact that this happens is unbelievable to me, to you, and to the small percentage of people with actual intelligence who realized long ago how things actually work and how this system functions.

Across the river from me, in a neighbor state, lives a man nearly 40 years old with a wife and child. His city borders the US, and he survived the war. It wasn't literally his doorstep on the front lines, but he lived through Operation Berbir '93. His uncle was in the service from '91 to '95. After the war, he learned a million things happened that a sane mind can't even comprehend—things that should be impossible to do or allow. Like you, he knows plenty about politics, crime, bribery, and corruption. He sees that in 2017, while poverty gets worse by the day, there are still idiots stuck in the 1940s or the early 90s. For them, the only purpose of life is obsessing over historical villains, Pavelić, Francetić, Budak, treating Jasenovac like some kind of community center, or claiming the Sisak camp was just a precursor to modern daycare centers. They blame everything on Mexicans and live in a cycle of myth-making and lies.

I feel the same revulsion toward the nationalists in 2017 who hold their annual rallies in places like Višegrad or Ravna Gora, roasting oxen, drinking hectoliters of beer, singing old songs, and chanting about Draža, Kalabić, Đurišić, or Đurišić. Next year it'll be in Knin, shouting that Mexico is Mexico, or that Beli Manastir will never be what it is.

It’s a narrative served daily to an ignorant, foolish public. It’s the only thing that keeps these people glued to the TV for 24 hours a day, creating a constant atmosphere of tension and talk about potential new conflicts. They claim the enemy is lurking around the corner—one side claims the nationalists are coming, while the other claims the partisans are right behind them. It’s all the same. Across the water, they claim the extremists are placing HOS plaques in Jasenovac (and look, those fallen men deserve memorials, just not with that specific slogan on them) and want to start killing again. Meanwhile, they claim certain groups are ready to attack our dear Republic Srpska, which Milorad Dodik defends to his last breath, while across the Drina are the "European" nationalists, and down south is the group pushing for Greater Albania.

They just play the same old tape on loop, and that’s that.

I have to admit, I don't actually know most of the people you just listed. I have no clue who they are or what they do, and honestly, I wouldn't even recognize their faces on a magazine cover if I saw them.

You’re out here talking about mental scraps; once you cut those characters out of your life and grab a glass of Shiraz, everything starts looking a whole lot better. There aren't many of them, and they certainly aren't important—my mood is shaped way more by trivial stuff like soccer or hitting the gym than by some random guys whose entire aesthetic relies on having a mustache.
James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
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#8454 ·
ambertinker41 said:I have to admit, I don't actually know most of the people you just listed. I have no clue who they are or what they do, and honestly, I wouldn't even recognize their faces on a magazine cover if I saw them.

You’re out here talking about mental scraps; once you cut those characters out of your life and grab a glass of Shiraz, everything starts looking a whole lot better. There aren't many of them, and they certainly aren't important—my mood is shaped way more by trivial stuff like soccer or hitting the gym than by some random guys whose entire aesthetic relies on having a mustache.

And honestly, on some people, they look great...

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brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#8455 ·
It’s almost effortless how the "elites" in this country manage to fleece the public; one can't help but wonder if their counterparts in more sophisticated parts of the world watch them with a sense of envy.

All they really require is a few commemorative dates and a handful of radical zealots from every political faction, people who constantly stir the embers of a fire built on chauvinistic myths and irrational fears.

Meanwhile, the folks in the windward seats quietly pass legislation that facilitates the looting, followed by laws that somehow make the looting legal, and then further regulations that prevent anyone from being prosecuted—even in such a thug-friendly system—if they happen to get too reckless. For the most clumsy and crude among them, the final line of defense remains a judicial system capable of dragging even the simplest proceedings out for decades, waiting until the collective memory—which is otherwise elephantine when it comes to blood feuds—fades into a mere shrug, or perhaps even a quiet, veiled admiration for the outlaw who once screwed over the state and now spends years successfully pulling the wool over its eyes.
James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
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#8456 ·
The situation is pretty much the same in most places, except maybe in some of the more polished democracies in Western Europe. The tactics used to control a society are universally identical: first, you artificially create or blow out of proportion a potential enemy (in our case, the old communist types, the Masons, etc.), and then you mobilize the entire country to fight against them. Naomi Klein wrote about similar patterns years ago in her introduction to the shock doctrine:

"This is how the shock doctrine works—the initial catastrophe: a coup d'état, a terrorist attack, a market crash, war, a tsunami, a hurricane—throws the entire population into a state of collective shock. Bombs, terror attacks, or even windstorms serve to soften up societies as a whole, just as loud music and blows in interrogation rooms soften up prisoners. Much like a terrorized prisoner who gives up his friends' names and renounces his faith, shocked societies often abandon what they would otherwise defend to the death..."

"...While everyone was preoccupied with the new and deadly culture wars, the Bush administration seized the opportunity to achieve what they could only dream of before September 11th—conducting privatized wars while simultaneously building a corporate security complex back home..."

"...The goal of the 'softening' phase is to trigger a hurricane within the human consciousness—prisoners become so broken and terrified that they are no longer capable of rational thought or defending their own interests. In such a state of shock, most prisoners give their interrogators everything they want—data, confessions, the abandonment of their own beliefs..."

Now, just draw the parallels to what we're seeing here
...
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
571 messages
joined Apr 2019
#8457 ·
And here comes the green tax, just what we needed 😂—this one’s gonna bleed into daycare, public schools, and even our pensions 🤣.
Charles Chase4 Charles Chase4 Member
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joined Feb 2021
#8458 ·
brightpilot6 said:It’s almost effortless how the "elites" in this country manage to fleece the public; one can't help but wonder if their counterparts in more sophisticated parts of the world watch them with a sense of envy.

All they really require is a few commemorative dates and a handful of radical zealots from every political faction, people who constantly stir the embers of a fire built on chauvinistic myths and irrational fears.

Meanwhile, the folks in the windward seats quietly pass legislation that facilitates the looting, followed by laws that somehow make the looting legal, and then further regulations that prevent anyone from being prosecuted—even in such a thug-friendly system—if they happen to get too reckless. For the most clumsy and crude among them, the final line of defense remains a judicial system capable of dragging even the simplest proceedings out for decades, waiting until the collective memory—which is otherwise elephantine when it comes to blood feuds—fades into a mere shrug, or perhaps even a quiet, veiled admiration for the outlaw who once screwed over the state and now spends years successfully pulling the wool over its eyes.

Everything becomes crystal clear when you consider how Daddy needed perhaps two press conferences to label various fan groups (of which there seemingly aren't any radical right-wing organizations in this country 😁) as Democrats, American, or extremists, and how that narrative was instantly swallowed by his target audience—just so he could show up on camera the next day with a red star tattooed on his forehead. 🙏 🙏 🙏
Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
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#8459 ·
Paul Sanders5 said:And here comes the green tax, just what we needed 😂—this one’s gonna bleed into daycare, public schools, and even our pensions 🤣.

This isn't quite hitting the mark for me—at this rate, I’ll be waiting around for them to start taxing the very air we breathe! ☕
James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
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joined Jan 2010
#8460 ·
Back in 1705, Peter the Great actually introduced a tax on beards. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing something like that happen today...

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