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Participants Morgan WilliamsRachel Cooper3Joseph Clark37Keith Patel81darkseal9neonfalcon16urbanhawk17Amanda Evans2bluebison47brightpilot6Patrick MartinJoseph Fisher3steelharbor9Robin Fox2Maria AndersonAnthony Jackson2Jason Newmanruggedjackal46Michelle Palmer6Jeffrey Edwards76Jason Campbell70Anthony Barrett37graniteangler31Dennis Evans6 …
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#10221 ·
You really went all out on that black metal track, didn't you? Honestly, what a heavy hit. 🤣
Walter Grant5 Walter Grant5 Regular
459 messages
joined Oct 2012
#10222 ·
Ugh, brain fart. Couldn't find the right word for a second there. My bad. 🤦
Nancy Sanchez31 Nancy Sanchez31 Active Member
112 messages
joined Apr 2023
#10223 ·
Matthew Young35 hit the nail on the head regarding AC/DC—shallow lyrics, basic passions, all that jazz. Any connection you find to folk music is probably just pure coincidence. ��
I actually caught one of their shows once; the energy is pretty wild, but I could never bring myself to blast them at home. Same thing goes for Queen, honestly. I don't really get the cult following. The vocals are killer, sure, but the actual music? Nothing special, I guess.
It’s clearly more about the persona. Once the frontman passes away, suddenly the band becomes legendary.
Walter Grant, I’ve watched those documentaries...
"Global Metal" and "Metal Journey"?
steelharbor9 steelharbor9 Active Member
198 messages
joined Jul 2012
#10224 ·
William Gomez5 said:this stuff gives off major Radiohead vibes😬

In my experience, most people who dig this kind of music—and other subgenres of metal, if we're being specific—aren't actually miserable. If anything, they’re usually some of the funniest, most chill people you'll meet.

Hey steelharbor9, if you ever run into Ode, he can back me up. We have a mutual friend who is a total grouch, a real piece of work, but seriously, no shade intended😁—most people aren't even like that.

Maybe it's because they listen to a mix of everything. Or maybe those heavy emotions really do dominate when you're a teen, but who knows? Back then, I wasn't hanging out with the crowd that listened to this, or maybe we just didn't own up to it.😁

Oh, I'll be around, Sebastian. Generally speaking, once you hit about 16 years old, trying to link music taste to someone's personality is a total miss.🤷 During those high school years, sure, it might be somewhat on point.

For me, I still find myself blasting a power metal album every couple of months, even though stylistically it's mostly garbage. I just feel like it sometimes! And before or after that, I'll go straight to Aretha Franklin or maybe some classic rock, I have no clue🤷
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
571 messages
joined Apr 2019
#10225 ·
Just the population.
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jul 2012
#10226 ·
Matthew Young35 said:At least half of these styles lean heavily on anger, rage, aggression, irony, cynicism, and varying degrees of political incorrectness—often just general provocations.
Punk, metal, and essentially everything born from the lineage of good old-fashioned rock.
It’s been this way since the era of those classic rock ballads.
Take Dylan’s "Knocking on Heaven's Door," where the man is lamenting his impending death because he can no longer kill. Or "Sympathy for the Devil," "Midnight Rambler," Neil Young's "Crime in the City"... the list goes on forever.
Then there is Leonard Cohen. The man has a song detailing how he’ll hunt down the dealers who sold drugs to his girlfriend after she overdosed. He describes her passing with startlingly vivid detail. He even has a cheerful little biblical tune about a father drowning his son on a hillside. Good grief. He even has a collection titled *Flowers for Hitler*.

Broadly speaking, everyone is just trying to shock the system and grab attention.
Naturally, some possess more substance (Cohen, for instance), while others fall somewhat short of the mark.

I have to agree here—for a huge chunk of artists, the whole point is just to shock the audience.

Take Johnny Cash, for instance. His band started out playing gospel, he recorded a gospel album during his career, and he somehow ended up finishing things off with religious themes—yet he also records this track where he claims he killed a man just to see what the dying process was like.

Personally, I'm not a fan of black metal either—to me, it honestly just sounds like indescribable noise—but hey, there's a market for everything. 🙂
Walter Grant5 Walter Grant5 Regular
459 messages
joined Oct 2012
#10227 ·
Nancy Sanchez31 said:Matthew Young35 hit the nail on the head regarding AC/DC—shallow lyrics, basic passions, all that jazz. Any connection you find to folk music is probably just pure coincidence. ��
I actually caught one of their shows once; the energy is pretty wild, but I could never bring myself to blast them at home. Same thing goes for Queen, honestly. I don't really get the cult following. The vocals are killer, sure, but the actual music? Nothing special, I guess.
It’s clearly more about the persona. Once the frontman passes away, suddenly the band becomes legendary.
Walter Grant, I’ve watched those documentaries...
"Global Metal" and "Metal Journey"?

thanks for the tip. i'll get to it once i'm done trolling everyone else👍

no joke, thanks.

it’s wild how people can obsess over all the negativity in Game of Thrones and call it epic, but then look at someone listening to black metal like they're crazy. or even jazz—you always get that crowd acting shocked because someone actually listens to jazz😲 the way😲

God...🤦
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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joined Oct 2012
#10228 ·
You’re being incredibly negative. A little less ego might actually do you some good.
Robert Torres Robert Torres Active Member
108 messages
joined Dec 2009
#10229 ·
steelharbor9 said:Oh, I'll be around, Sebastian. Generally speaking, once you hit about 16 years old, trying to link music taste to someone's personality is a total miss.🤷 During those high school years, sure, it might be somewhat on point.

For me, I still find myself blasting a power metal album every couple of months, even though stylistically it's mostly garbage. I just feel like it sometimes! And before or after that, I'll go straight to Aretha Franklin or maybe some classic rock, I have no clue🤷

Yeah, whatever... 🤣

It's basically like those people who obsess over astrology and start preaching about how Capricorns are stubborn, Pisces are legends, and Virgos are just pathological liars... or whatever that nonsense is...

There’s definitely a weird connection between what people listen to and how they actually act... People with the same vibe and interests always seem to gravitate toward the same stuff...
I’d bet my life savings that most of the playlists from these Madrid fans are just nothing but light, upbeat pop tunes... which isn't even a bad thing, I guess...

Walter Grant5 said:thanks for the tip. i'll get to it once i'm done trolling everyone else👍

no joke, thanks.

it’s wild how people can obsess over all the negativity in Game of Thrones and call it epic, but then look at someone listening to black metal like they're crazy. or even jazz—you always get that crowd acting shocked because someone actually listens to jazz😲 the way😲

God...🤦

Why are you even surprised? Your favorite guy from Objective, brightpilot6, is just a total hypocrite and a massive provocateur...

Morning... ☕

ruggedjackal46 and the rest of us VB16 crew read that ages ago...
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
702 messages
joined Aug 2015
#10230 ·
Listen to these so-called "experts" spouting absolute nonsense about AC/DC and Queen 🤦

Look, guys, if you didn't know, we're talking about the damn pioneers here—the actual architects of entire genres and subgenres, in case you were oblivious.

They just don't get it. They have zero clue what people actually see or hear when they listen to them. 🙂

Man, there’s just nothing left in this world. ☕
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
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joined Jan 2018
#10231 ·
Patrick Martin said:Listen to these so-called "experts" spouting absolute nonsense about AC/DC and Queen 🤦

Look, guys, if you didn't know, we're talking about the damn pioneers here—the actual architects of entire genres and subgenres, in case you were oblivious.

They just don't get it. They have zero clue what people actually see or hear when they listen to them. 🙂

Man, there’s just nothing left in this world. ☕

If you're aiming that at me, you missed the mark. I love AC/DC. I'm not much for Queen, but I can certainly understand why people gravitate toward them.
Just because I enjoy AC/DC doesn't mean I think their lyrics are profound.
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#10232 ·
Patrick Martin said:Listen to these so-called "experts" spouting absolute nonsense about AC/DC and Queen 🤦

Look, guys, if you didn't know, we're talking about the damn pioneers here—the actual architects of entire genres and subgenres, in case you were oblivious.

They just don't get it. They have zero clue what people actually see or hear when they listen to them. 🙂

Man, there’s just nothing left in this world. ☕

Why does everyone feel the need to have the exact same damn taste in everything?! It’s exhausting.
I can't even begin to wrap my head around how people actually function when they're living like mindless drones in some dystopian hive-mind nightmare, honestly! It’s just one massive, soul-crushing wave of conformity where nobody thinks for themselves and everyone just follows orders like they're programmed by a glitchy computer.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
702 messages
joined Aug 2015
#10233 ·
Matthew Young35 said:If you're aiming that at me, you missed the mark. I love AC/DC. I'm not much for Queen, but I can certainly understand why people gravitate toward them.
Just because I enjoy AC/DC doesn't mean I think their lyrics are profound.

And honestly, who even decided that hard rock has to have these heavy, profound lyrics anyway? Like, since when?
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
702 messages
joined Aug 2015
#10234 ·
Peter Thompson4 said:Why does everyone feel the need to have the exact same damn taste in everything?! It’s exhausting.
I can't even begin to wrap my head around how people actually function when they're living like mindless drones in some dystopian hive-mind nightmare, honestly! It’s just one massive, soul-crushing wave of conformity where nobody thinks for themselves and everyone just follows orders like they're programmed by a glitchy computer.

Look, people just freaking love Levi's

straight up Borg style
Nancy Sanchez31 Nancy Sanchez31 Active Member
112 messages
joined Apr 2023
#10235 ·
Patrick Martin said:And honestly, who even decided that hard rock has to have these heavy, profound lyrics anyway? Like, since when?

Well, nobody actually said that, I guess. 😁 My point was just that AC/DC has pretty shallow lyrics—which I love, by the way—and I don't really see much difference when it comes to Queen. Just my two cents, I suppose.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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joined Oct 2012
#10236 ·
Can we please stop playing black metal at full volume?

The neighbors are going to end up throwing us out on the street.
Walter Grant5 Walter Grant5 Regular
459 messages
joined Oct 2012
#10237 ·
Listening to black metal while taking a dump. Yeah, just sprinkling ash on myself here. 🤣🤦

Didn't mean it like that, things just got a little out of hand. 🤣
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
702 messages
joined Aug 2015
#10238 ·
Nancy Sanchez31 said:Well, nobody actually said that, I guess. 😁 My point was just that AC/DC has pretty shallow lyrics—which I love, by the way—and I don't really see much difference when it comes to Queen. Just my two cents, I suppose.

maybe from where you're sitting, you don't see anything out of the ordinary 🤷
but all I can do is back up what everyone already knows—this was a band that probably took more risks and experimented more than anyone else while still raking in the cash, without giving a damn about what the crowd wanted. whatever crazy idea popped into their heads, they recorded it, and honestly, that alone is why you have to fucking respect them.

not to mention they're just incredible musicians with killer songs.
Walter Grant5 Walter Grant5 Regular
459 messages
joined Oct 2012
#10239 ·
I respect them, but I can't stand listening to them. If it makes someone feel better, I can lie and say I enjoy it.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
702 messages
joined Aug 2015
#10240 ·
If you haven't been paying attention to them by now, honestly, why bother? 🤷

The days when everyone was hanging on their every word are long gone. Trying to claim you aren't listening to them at this point is just a waste of breath.

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