Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Paul Sanders5 said:Back in the Midwest again 🤣

Total freak accident 😬

Man, if you pulled the same stunt at a rally in Times Square, there’d be protests all over the place and the EU would be breathing down our necks with some massive condemnation 🤣

What exactly would they do?
It seems to me there would be a reaction regardless, especially if things played out the way is being implied between the lines.

On the other hand, what's your take on the threats involving knives along the Potomac? Is that just more minority issues?

So what am I suggesting here, my little sheep? Are we talking about kicking them out of the country or what? Honestly, I couldn't care less about your delusions.

We need to insist that kids actually go to school—if they don't, take the kids away. Period. We need zero tolerance for crime, which is absolutely disastrous out in the Midwest. Just look at the threads where people share their actual experiences; folks in small towns are literally pulling night watch just to feel safe, like we're living in the Wild West. 🤣

At the end of the day, nothing changes. People will just forget this happened, nobody cares, and nobody wants to stick their neck out. We just keep moving along, right? As long as they have their little "honor courts," whatever. It's 2020. America, the whole of Europe... 🙂

Paul Sanders5 said:Go ahead and tell yourself it’s all the same if you want, but I’m sure as hell not gonna sit here and pretend it is. 😁

Of course it’s different when you get to hand-pick which victims to go after—it's a total joke...
Three tragedies hit in just twenty-four hours—but you? You only pick the one that feeds your ego... typical...

Matthew Young35 said:What exactly would they do?
It seems to me there would be a reaction regardless, especially if things played out the way is being implied between the lines.

On the other hand, what's your take on the threats involving knives along the Potomac? Is that just more minority issues?

Just look at the crime rates in Ohio among the Rom community versus the general population. You're trying to compare minority crime stats to whatever happens with the majority population.

That’s like me telling you that since 200 women were assaulted in Pittsburgh, then the same number must have been assaulted across the entire US.

Every single week there's another headline about how people are struggling to survive there, or stories about elderly folks being targeted daily when they make up such a huge part of the population. The Rom minority presents challenges everywhere in the world, yet here, there isn't even a shred of willpower to ensure they actually follow the law.

Larry Fox5 said:Of course it’s different when you get to hand-pick which victims to go after—it's a total joke...
Three tragedies hit in just twenty-four hours—but you? You only pick the one that feeds your ego... typical...

Honestly, you leftists are all cut from the same cloth—heads buried in the sand and totally ignoring what's actually happening right in front of you.

Down in Maui, we're talking about maybe the first murder in fifty years, and the crime rate is basically non-existent. But no, the story ends up being this total absurdity where some lunatic just wandered into the wrong house.

"The reality is that Ohio has the largest Rom population in the US, totaling about 10,000 people. It’s also true that they make up a third of the unemployed in that state and account for 80 percent of those on welfare. Then there's the fact that a huge number of Rom children aren't attending school, much like the fact that 70 percent of those caught committing crimes are Rom."

What are you even talking about, Paul Martinez73? You clearly have a Nazi mindset if that's why you chose an SS nickname...

That’s precisely the point.
The government couldn't care less.
They look the other way when Rom children are kept out of school, they turn a blind eye to domestic violence, and they let people drive around without licenses...

Then, the moment things actually go south, the reaction is always the same: "Oh, it's just those minor groups again."

Zero tolerance?
Hardly. They show the exact same level of indifference they show everyone else. To suggest anything more or less than that isn't equality—it's discrimination.

Matthew Young35 said:That’s precisely the point.
The government couldn't care less.
They look the other way when Rom children are kept out of school, they turn a blind eye to domestic violence, and they let people drive around without licenses...

Then, the moment things actually go south, the reaction is always the same: "Oh, it's just those minor groups again."

Zero tolerance?
Hardly. They show the exact same level of indifference they show everyone else. To suggest anything more or less than that isn't equality—it's discrimination.

Are they letting you drive around without a license? Beat your wife? Let your kid stay home from school?
You already answered your own question; the state basically gives them a free pass to do whatever they want while being more tolerant toward them than anyone else. In other words, the majority is being discriminated against to favor the minority. That's why people call for police and strict penalties—because when things go sideways in Ohio, it's only natural to wonder where the hell the government is.

Matthew Young35, look, if your kid doesn't show up at school, you’re gonna get a call from the counselor or the front office by like 10 AM asking what the hell happened. But if the cops catch you? If they find out you're hitting your wife or driving without a license, you are absolutely screwed. In this country, the government has basically washed its hands of everything; everyone just acts like these problems don't even exist. Aside from the locals who have to deal with all this crap, nobody gives a damn.

How exactly are Rom people supposed to navigate the school system when they’re stuck footing the bill for textbooks and grinding through twelve years of schooling just for $0.00 to end up with a degree that probably won't mean squat on the job market?

The reality is that many Rom live in such terrible conditions that being uneducated or turning to crime feels less like an excess and more like a logical survival choice. But does the government actually care to fix it? Why would they? When things inevitably go south, they can just point fingers and claim it's entirely their own fault.

Paul Martinez73 said:Are they letting you drive around without a license? Beat your wife? Let your kid stay home from school?
You already answered your own question; the state basically gives them a free pass to do whatever they want while being more tolerant toward them than anyone else. In other words, the majority is being discriminated against to favor the minority. That's why people call for police and strict penalties—because when things go sideways in Ohio, it's only natural to wonder where the hell the government is.

What you fail to grasp is that these people end up discriminating against the Rom community itself—their own children, their women, and the more vulnerable men among them.
Everything is just left to descend into chaos, and then suddenly, everyone wants to take a moral stand against all of them, both the good and the bad.

It’s unlikely anyone would complain about laws being enforced, though you can bet a few progressives would find something to whine about—whether it’s police body cams, forced relocations, or who knows what else some academic would dream up.

No sane person opposes the enforcement of the law.
Take this current case, for instance: they’re going to arrest this man who killed his wife, and if he’s guilty, I hope he goes to prison. Who is going to protest that?
Who would object to him being locked up for domestic abuse prior to this, assuming that was the case?
Nobody.

The idea that they are allowed to break the law just to appease some "leftists" is absolute bullshit.
The reality is far simpler: the state simply doesn't care about them. It’s basically: "Here is your handful of social security checks; now stay out of our way and figure it out yourselves."

Paul Sanders5 said:Matthew Young35, look, if your kid doesn't show up at school, you’re gonna get a call from the counselor or the front office by like 10 AM asking what the hell happened. But if the cops catch you? If they find out you're hitting your wife or driving without a license, you are absolutely screwed. In this country, the government has basically washed its hands of everything; everyone just acts like these problems don't even exist. Aside from the locals who have to deal with all this crap, nobody gives a damn.

That is precisely my point.

And do you know who suffers most alongside the locals?
The Rom community.

I can already see you spinning this into some narrative about me being a leftist or some other nonsense, but that isn't the issue here.
The issue is that the state simply refuses to enforce its own laws.
Do you honestly believe it's beneficial for the Rom community to live among violent criminals?
Or do you subscribe to the idea that they are all inherently dirty, lazy, or criminal from birth, and therefore it's better to just lock them in their ghettos and let them fend for themselves?

Nah, if you ask me, they’re mostly just screwing themselves over. It’s that whole "tribal," localized way of living they cling to—it feels like there’s no way out unless an outside force, and the only thing that can actually force their hand, steps in. But nope, they won't, so the whole cycle just repeats itself.

So, the Governor was on TV today, right? Some 37-year-old killer who’s basically living off welfare. You seriously want to tell me someone in the absolute prime of their life can't find a job in America today? Give me a break.

I still owe the ZZU a response from last night, and here’s the part that’s got me like... wtf? They’re claiming there won't be any layoffs because there’s no "surplus" staff and everything is just peachy. Isn't one of the biggest issues over the last two decades being how every single little thing in Washington, D.C. gets stuffed with political appointees? Is every single one of those people actually necessary? Look, I don't want to drag private drama onto the forum, but how many people are sitting in various offices, boards, and neighborhood committees just doing absolutely nothing? Now that everyone is finally fed up with the Milan Bandić era of nonsense, isn't it time for some cold, hard truth? If you cut about 30% of the bureaucracy in all our major cities, nobody would even notice.

Paul Sanders5 said:Honestly, you leftists are all cut from the same cloth—heads buried in the sand and totally ignoring what's actually happening right in front of you.

Down in Maui, we're talking about maybe the first murder in fifty years, and the crime rate is basically non-existent. But no, the story ends up being this total absurdity where some lunatic just wandered into the wrong house.

Yeah, you really nailed the stereotypical leftist vibe there... 🤣

The whole point is that you just don't get how the government dropped the ball, and now you think you can just muscle through it with force.

No, you can't solve this with brute force.

It's about having actual social workers and decent oversight. And honestly, the government needs to use its power to prevent them from being ghettoized—it's not like they don't have the tools to make it happen.

I once had a thought regarding Rom people, dogs, and an American restaurant, though I find myself hesitating because I wouldn't want to cause any offense ☕

Matthew Young35 said:That is precisely my point.

And do you know who suffers most alongside the locals?
The Rom community.

I can already see you spinning this into some narrative about me being a leftist or some other nonsense, but that isn't the issue here.
The issue is that the state simply refuses to enforce its own laws.
Do you honestly believe it's beneficial for the Rom community to live among violent criminals?
Or do you subscribe to the idea that they are all inherently dirty, lazy, or criminal from birth, and therefore it's better to just lock them in their ghettos and let them fend for themselves?

Honestly, 90% of the Rom people I've dealt with were nothing but thieves and scammers—and yeah, I truly believe most of them are exactly that.

Poor Rom people. If they weren't facing discrimination from angry white crowds, they’d be living in total prosperity, much like folks in India or Pakistan.

brightpilot6 said:I once had a thought regarding Rom people, dogs, and an American restaurant, though I find myself hesitating because I wouldn't want to cause any offense ☕

You aren't a restaurant, you aren't Cuk, just spill the essay already!

wiredrider9 said:Honestly, 90% of the Rom people I've dealt with were nothing but thieves and scammers—and yeah, I truly believe most of them are exactly that.

I mean, the ones you're talking about are from over in the Czech Republic; we're discussing the situation here in the States.☕

brightpilot6, you’ve seriously become such a jerk lately.