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Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1181 ·
Casey Miller9 said:It’s the same situation out here on my farm; I have about 250 olive trees, and underneath them, there’s enough calendula to make your head spin. I don't use any pesticides or harsh chemicals, so everything stays strictly organic. I was wondering, though, how do you actually make the calendula oil? My method is to gather a jar of flowers along with a little bit of foliage, submerge them in olive oil, and let it sit in the sun for about 45 days before straining it into a dark glass bottle. Am I doing something wrong? Someone mentioned once that leaving it in the sun isn't ideal, but I disagree—that's just how my grandmother taught me to do it.

I've heard that too, although most people seem to leave theirs in the sun anyway.

I was also curious if anyone could explain the process for making cold-pressed oils...
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
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#1182 ·
jadesailor14 said:Man, you’re living the dream! 🙂
So gorgeous

Gosh, I’m so jealous of everyone out by the coast

I’m no expert on oils, but it just makes sense not to leave them in the sun. Heat messes things up, right? And we all know sunlight can wreck the good stuff in most substances

Olive trees live forever. There’s one near me that’s over 2,000 years old, and they just found another one that might even be older than that. They’re still producing fruit!

Everywhere I read about St. John's Wort oil and how to prep it, it always mentions keeping it in a bottle sitting right in the sun.

I actually disagree—I'm with you on this one.

If someone puts St. John's Wort oil on their skin and then goes out in the sun, it becomes phototoxic. So, logically, why wouldn't it be phototoxic inside the bottle too? It just clicks for me.

Chris Morgan67 might have some thoughts on this too.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#1183 ·
I agree that your reasoning makes sense. It’s common knowledge that St. John's Wort oil is phototoxic when exposed to sunlight... so logically, one might assume the same applies while it's still in the bottle.

And yet, 99% of people apply it right before heading out into the sun.

Robert Clark2, how do you typically prepare your own St. John's Wort...?
Casey Miller9 Casey Miller9 Member
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joined Jan 2008
#1184 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:I've heard it's not supposed to be kept in the sun either, but honestly, most people just leave it out there anyway.

So, I wanted to ask—how does the whole cold-pressed oil process actually work?

Look, about 99% of the oil produced here in the States is cold-pressed nowadays. It’s not rocket science, really—it’s all about how they handle the washing. Back in the day, some places used hot water during production to squeeze out every last drop of oil, but that basically trashed all the nutritional value. These days, modern American mills use cold water instead. That's the trick. You end up with oil that's basically identical to what was inside the fruit, with zero loss in quality—even if you lose maybe 2-3% of the actual yield, which is pretty much negligible.
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
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#1185 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:I’ve gotta say, your logic totally checks out. Everyone knows St. John's Wort oil is phototoxic when you're out in the sun... so logically, it'd be the same if it's just sitting in a bottle.

But honestly? Like 99% of people just slap it on and head straight into the sunlight.

Robert Clark2, how do you prep your St. John's Wort?

It's pretty easy. I just pack the flowers (both male and female varieties) and some leaves until they fill about a third of the bottle, then top it off with oil and seal it tight. Best bet is to keep it in a clear bottle tucked away in the shade where there's a good breeze. I wait about 40 days for it to turn that deep, dark red before I use it. Then I strain it. Doesn't matter if you strain it later on.
Once it's strained, I keep it in a dark room—somewhere cool, too. You don't want it getting heated up, otherwise, like they say down south, the oil might go rancid. Just keep aside whatever amount you actually need to use.
Casey Miller9 Casey Miller9 Member
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joined Jan 2008
#1186 ·
found some stuff on Kantarion;

http://www.trudnoca.net/forum/viewto...cb80f713d0a239
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
121 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1187 ·
Casey Miller9 said:Look, about 99% of the oil produced here in the States uses cold pressing nowadays. It’s not some big secret! The whole thing comes down to using water during production to rinse the fruit after grinding. Back in the day, they used hot water to squeeze out every last drop of oil, but that totally trashed the nutritional value. Now? Modern American mills stick to cold water. That's it. You get oil that's basically identical to what was inside the fruit—zero loss in nutrients. Sure, you might lose maybe 2-3% of the actual oil yield, but honestly, who cares? That's negligible.

For harvesting, people use those cherry harvesters while the fruit is still on the tree. Anything that falls onto the grass or onto sheets laid out on the ground has to be gathered up and sent to the mill within three days max. And whatever you do, don't let them sit in water or spray them with water! The milling process is pretty much the same everywhere. When the paste hits the press, that first bit of pure oil that flows out on its own—we call that virgin run. That stuff is top-tier. Some folks even use it to make alternative remedies for lung cancer. Before anything gets ground, the olives get rinsed with water to clear off any dirt or debris.
Every single morning starting in the fall, I drink one small shot—about 3 ounces.
Casey Miller9 Casey Miller9 Member
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joined Jan 2008
#1188 ·
Robert Clark2 said:Ever since fall started, I’ve been having a little 0.3 oz shot of this stuff every single morning.

Real smart move there.👍
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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joined May 2006
#1189 ·
Robert Clark2 said:Ever since fall started, I've been having a little 0.3 oz shot of olive oil every single morning.

Coming from a family that basically lives on extra virgin olive oil, this sounds wild to me!
I guess I just haven't found the right high-quality bottle yet,
but I actually have my own little morning ritual that might seem weird to some people—pumpkin seed oil!😁
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#1190 ·
jadesailor14 said:but I have my own little guilty pleasures that aren't exactly for everyone, like pumpkin seed oil 😁

Well, I certainly get where you're coming from...😍 🙏

I use olive oil for skincare, but when it comes to food, it's pumpkin seed oil all the way. Drizzled over greens or beans... quite delicious...
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2008
#1191 ·
jadesailor14 said:As someone who works at Continental, this sounds absolutely terrifying to me.
I guess I still haven't found the right extra virgin olive oil yet!
Look, I’ve got my own little guilty pleasure that might raise some eyebrows. Pumpkin seed oil. That's my thing! 😁

Olive oil is honestly one of the greatest gifts nature has ever handed us. It’s not just some heavy fat; it’s pure fuel that anyone can benefit from, especially if you're dealing with issues with your internal organs. I usually follow a simple routine: drink it for three weeks, take a little break, and then jump right back in for another three weeks. Simple as that!
A buddy of mine is dealing with some kidney stones and grit. I think he’s been mixing olive oil, honey, and lemon to manage it. Look, don't go trying this yourself—definitely not medical advice—but I'm gonna check in with him tomorrow and see if I can grab his specific recipe for you guys.
Olive leaf extract? Yeah, people use that stuff to help manage blood pressure. It’s like a natural way to keep things steady.

Even with psoriasis being the big topic here, I know plenty of people dealing with internal issues too. For instance, I used to struggle with an ulcer in my small intestine, but I'm totally clear of that now!

Look, despite all the health stuff going on, I’m still living my life! I might grab a drink here and there—nothing crazy, just a little something to keep things moving.
Casey Miller9 Casey Miller9 Member
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joined Jan 2008
#1192 ·
Robert Clark2 said:A buddy of mine deals with kidney stones and grit—I think he mixes olive oil, honey, and lemon. Don't go taking this blindly or anything, but I'll check with him tomorrow and post his recipe here.
Well, olive leaf is actually used for blood pressure stuff.

Ask him, man. My blood pressure is all over the place.
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2008
#1193 ·
Casey Miller9 said:Just ask him—I’ve got high blood pressure issues myself!

Olive leaf tea is the way to go.
Boil up about twenty olive leaves in 300 grams of water. Let it simmer down until you're left with about 200 grams of liquid, then strain it. Add a little sweetener if you want, and sip it warm before breakfast and dinner.
It works wonders for managing high blood pressure because it helps dilate those blood vessels.
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#1194 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:Why haven't some of the forum members who act like they "run the show" and know everything reacted WITH TOTAL URGENCY regarding the use of ivy?
Will someone please tell me if ivy isn't poisonous?


Now, look—standard common ivy (Hedera helix) isn't actually toxic, but poison ivy (Toxicodendron radicans)—which, as the name implies, most certainly is—is a whole different story. We are talking about two completely distinct species here!
Lawrence Ramirez3 Lawrence Ramirez3 Newcomer
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#1195 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:yeah, i get what you mean😍 🙏

I put olive oil on my skin, but I only use pumpkin seeds for cooking. Like, maybe over some greens or beans... yuck.

I pick up some extra virgin olive oil at the store—ideally Greek—slather myself in it, and head out into the sun. Seems like my psoriasis patches actually respond pretty well to that routine.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#1196 ·
Lawrence Ramirez3 said:I pick up some extra virgin olive oil at the store—ideally Greek if I can find it—and apply it liberally before heading out into the sun. It seems to help quite a bit with my psoriasis plaques.


thanks for the tip🙂

I do that occasionally when I'm down at the coast, though I'm cautious about doing it daily since my skin is quite fair...
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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joined May 2006
#1197 ·
Robert Clark2 said:Olive oil is honestly one of nature's greatest gifts.

Even a kid could tell you that! 😁
Of course, it’s only a superfood if it's prepared the right way—otherwise, it can actually be pretty bad for you.
But honestly, what good is all that nutritional info to me when just the smell makes my stomach turn? 😬
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
121 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1198 ·
jadesailor14 said:Even a kid could figure that one out.😁
But hey, if you don't prep it right, it can actually backfire on you.
Even if I know it’s good for me, my stomach just turns at the mere smell of it.😬

If the oil is high-quality, it shouldn't have a strong scent. Honestly, even I struggled at first when I was taking it straight by the spoonful. But thank God, once I switched to a small 0.3 shot, it became easy. Don't overthink it—just tilt the glass back and before you know it, it's down. The first and third shots are always the toughest part; anyone who enjoys a good whiskey knows that feeling. Just grab the second one instead and you won't have any issues!
George Gray3 George Gray3 Member
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joined Oct 2005
#1199 ·
Angela Green70 said:I think I read somewhere that they made some kind of "revolutionary" ointment over in Mexico, and it should be hitting pharmacies soon. I'll probably check it out once it's available and let you know. I deal with psoriasis myself, though it doesn't flare up that often, and the symptoms aren't too bad. When my skin does act up, I just take some clay and it seems to calm everything down. Maybe give that a shot? Clay is pretty healthy for you anyway, so it shouldn't hurt.

Is that actually true?
Lawrence Ramirez3 Lawrence Ramirez3 Newcomer
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#1200 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:thanks for the tip🙂

I do that once in a while when I'm down at the beach, but honestly, I'm terrified since my skin burns if you even look at me wrong.

Maybe try hitting the desert for a bit first to prep your skin before heading to the coast. People have been using olive oil as a light sunblock forever, but if you've got pale skin like mine, you'll probably just end up toasted if you slather on oil without any actual prep.

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