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Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#4221 ·
Paul Newman5 said:I started Apple on Saturday, just 25mg in the morning so far, but the restlessness is hitting hard. I told my doctor, but she just told me to take a Normabel. I was already dealing with some anxiety and depression before this, but honestly, it feels worse now. Is this normal when you first start? That feeling where your chest tightens, you can't focus on anything, and everyone just gets on your nerves. It's true I've been diagnosed with perimenopause and I'm supposed to start Novofem hormone therapy soon. My thyroid isn't doing great either. Anyone else dealt with this? I wasn't expecting a miracle in five days, but this constant restlessness is too much. Help.🙂

I went through the exact same thing while I was on a 20mg dose; the restlessness and anxiety were so overwhelming that even my own doctor couldn't provide much relief. It made sleep impossible, which only compounded the misery, so I eventually stopped. Now, I find myself caught in this exhausting loop of thinking about restarting, though God knows I don't have the mental fortitude left for it. Today has been absolutely wretched... and even without the Zoloft, the agitation and nervousness are just unbearable...🙂
Paul Newman5 Paul Newman5 Regular
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#4222 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:I went through the exact same thing while I was on a 20mg dose; the restlessness and anxiety were so overwhelming that even my own doctor couldn't provide much relief. It made sleep impossible, which only compounded the misery, so I eventually stopped. Now, I find myself caught in this exhausting loop of thinking about restarting, though God knows I don't have the mental fortitude left for it. Today has been absolutely wretched... and even without the Zoloft, the agitation and nervousness are just unbearable...🙂

Anyone have experience with Fevarin or Coaxil? My doctor suggested switching from Luxury if this agitation doesn't die down by the end of the week.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#4223 ·
Paul Newman5 said:Anyone have experience with Fevarin or Coaxil? My doctor suggested switching from Luxury if this agitation doesn't die down by the end of the week.

Fevarin worked wonders for me over the years—it's truly excellent for anxiety and panic attacks.
I'd recommend starting slow: just 1/4 of a dose for 3 or 4 days, then gradually bumping it up. Just a heads-up—you might feel pretty drowsy at first, but that passed for me after about two weeks.

Coaxil
http://medicine-info-blog.com/tianeptine.html

Good luck!😉
Paul Newman5 Paul Newman5 Regular
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#4224 ·
fadedbear92 said:Fevarin worked wonders for me over the years—it's truly excellent for anxiety and panic attacks.
I'd recommend starting slow: just 1/4 of a dose for 3 or 4 days, then gradually bumping it up. Just a heads-up—you might feel pretty drowsy at first, but that passed for me after about two weeks.

Coaxil
http://medicine-info-blog.com/tianeptine.html

Good luck!😉

Did Fevarin ever make you restless? Like that kind of agitation where you just can't settle down?
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#4225 ·
Paul Newman5 said:Did Fevarin ever make you restless? Like that kind of agitation where you just can't settle down?

Never for me! It actually helped manage my anxiety, and honestly, those symptoms you're describing sound like they might be part of the anxiety itself.
Paul Newman5 Paul Newman5 Regular
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#4226 ·
fadedbear92 said:Never for me! It actually helped manage my anxiety, and honestly, those symptoms you're describing sound like they might be part of the anxiety itself.

Better to just stick with Luxury then. With my luck, Fevarin will probably just leave me feeling restless🤣My psychiatrist says there are 30 different types of antidepressants out there, so I guess one of them will eventually work for me😂
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#4227 ·
Paul Newman5 said:Better to just stick with Luxury then. With my luck, Fevarin will probably just leave me feeling restless🤣My psychiatrist says there are 30 different types of antidepressants out there, so I guess one of them will eventually work for me😂

Wait—are you actually happy with it? Luxury And how long have you been on it?

It's just a generic medication—what was the name again? I can't quite wrap my head around it right now, you know?
George Allen71 George Allen71 Active Member
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#4228 ·
fadedbear92 said:Wait—are you actually happy with it? Luxury And how long have you been on it?

It's just a generic medication—what was the name again? I can't quite wrap my head around it right now, you know?

fadedbear92, I already explained all of this to Paul Newman5.... regarding the Zoloft... and she only started taking it last Saturday... there's still plenty of time to see...
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#4229 ·
Paul Newman5 said:Better to just stick with Luxury then. With my luck, Fevarin will probably just leave me feeling restless🤣My psychiatrist says there are 30 different types of antidepressants out there, so I guess one of them will eventually work for me😂

Why on earth would you assume that? She explicitly stated she’s never experienced a single moment of restlessness from taking Fevarin, so it seems you’ve fundamentally misread the situation. It’s quite clear there was a misunderstanding of her words.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#4230 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:Why on earth would you assume that? She explicitly stated she’s never experienced a single moment of restlessness from taking Fevarin, so it seems you’ve fundamentally misread the situation. It’s quite clear there was a misunderstanding of her words.

The way Fevarin is formulated, its chemical makeup is specifically designed to act as an anxiolytic—basically, it targets anxiety symptoms directly.
Paul Newman5 Paul Newman5 Regular
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#4231 ·
fadedbear92 said:The way Fevarin is formulated, its chemical makeup is specifically designed to act as an anxiolytic—basically, it targets anxiety symptoms directly.

Haven't tried Fevarin yet. It's just the backup plan if the Luxette doesn't settle my restlessness by Monday. My doctor put me on Liam too, even though I don't have bipolar disorder. Claims it helps with the transition to Luxette. Honestly, yesterday was okay on the Luxette. Even walked to the clinic for the Liam and took a stroll through the park. No anxiety at all, didn't even need the Xanax. Only issue is Liam seems to make me sleepy. Does that wear off eventually? For now, sticking with Luxette. If this anxiety spike dies down by Monday, I'll just bump the dose to 50mg. Hopefully these episodes finally stop. We'll see about the Liam.🤷
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#4232 ·
Paul Newman5 said:Haven't tried Fevarin yet. It's just the backup plan if the Luxette doesn't settle my restlessness by Monday. My doctor put me on Liam too, even though I don't have bipolar disorder. Claims it helps with the transition to Luxette. Honestly, yesterday was okay on the Luxette. Even walked to the clinic for the Liam and took a stroll through the park. No anxiety at all, didn't even need the Xanax. Only issue is Liam seems to make me sleepy. Does that wear off eventually? For now, sticking with Luxette. If this anxiety spike dies down by Monday, I'll just bump the dose to 50mg. Hopefully these episodes finally stop. We'll see about the Liam.🤷

Liam is meant for mood stabilization—to prevent those major swings—and apparently, it can help with sleep too.
Paul Newman5 Paul Newman5 Regular
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#4233 ·
fadedbear92 said:Liam is meant for mood stabilization—to prevent those major swings—and apparently, it can help with sleep too.

Does Liam kick in right away, or do you have to wait a few weeks like with an antidepressant?
Paul Newman5 Paul Newman5 Regular
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#4234 ·
Paul Newman5 said:Does Liam kick in right away, or do you have to wait a few weeks like with an antidepressant?

Liam just knocks me out. I feel completely drained, like I’ve got the flu. Told my doctor, but she doesn't buy it. Anyone else dealing with this side effect from Liam? I was active enough yesterday, went for an afternoon walk and didn't feel any of that Luxette jitters, but today? Today I feel like a crushed bug the second I take it. She told me to stop taking it, but she didn't sound convinced. My first diagnosis was depression and they put me on Lexapro, which I couldn't handle. Then came Luxette; gave me some anxiety at first, but that stopped after two days. So why am I on Liam? This exhaustion isn't something I'm making up. Instead of actually getting better—which is why I asked about Liam in the first place because of the fatigue and anxiety—it's just pinning me back to bed. I could stay in bed all day on Normabell too. Someone tell me what you're going through.🤷
Thomas Rodriguez14 Thomas Rodriguez14 Member
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#4235 ·
Hey everyone—not sure if this is the right spot for this, but I’ve got a question. My stepdad is dealing with some seriously, seriously heavy mental health issues, and his psychiatrist prescribed him Prozac, but he just flat-out refuses to take it. Neither my mom nor I have any clue what to do at this point. So, I was wondering—if we were to crush those pills into a fine powder and sneak them into his coffee (which he basically lives on)—would they actually do anything?
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#4236 ·
Thomas Rodriguez14 said:Hey everyone—not sure if this is the right spot for this, but I’ve got a question. My stepdad is dealing with some seriously, seriously heavy mental health issues, and his psychiatrist prescribed him Prozac, but he just flat-out refuses to take it. Neither my mom nor I have any clue what to do at this point. So, I was wondering—if we were to crush those pills into a fine powder and sneak them into his coffee (which he basically lives on)—would they actually do anything?

First off, what exactly does "extremely, extremely severe" mean in your eyes? He was prescribed Prozac, which is an antidepressant. Since you haven't mentioned any antipsychotics being part of his regimen, shouldn't we assume his reality testing is still intact—that is, he hasn't completely lost touch with reality? If he actually has, then Prozac certainly wouldn't be the solution here. Furthermore, since his doctor didn't recommend hospitalization, it stands to reason that he doesn't pose a significant danger to himself or others.

Don't you think that, even in his state, your stepfather should be the one to decide whether or not he wants to take medication? (I personally believe that even individuals experiencing intense psychosis should retain that right, though that is a subject open to debate.) If his behavior is making life miserable for you and your mother, there are other ways to address the situation. Slipping medication into his coffee strikes me as fundamentally wrong.
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#4237 ·
fadedbear92 said:The way Fevarin is formulated, its chemical makeup is specifically designed to act as an anxiolytic—basically, it targets anxiety symptoms directly.

I find myself wondering, based on your personal experience, which yielded better results for managing anxiety: Paxil or Zoloft? And if we’re being honest about the side effect profile, which one felt less intrusive to your system? I’m particularly curious because I’ve heard whispers that Paxil might actually assist with sleep—a luxury I desperately need given my chronic insomnia—though there is also the persistent warning that it can be quite harsh on the stomach.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#4238 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:I find myself wondering, based on your personal experience, which yielded better results for managing anxiety: Paxil or Zoloft? And if we’re being honest about the side effect profile, which one felt less intrusive to your system? I’m particularly curious because I’ve heard whispers that Paxil might actually assist with sleep—a luxury I desperately need given my chronic insomnia—though there is also the persistent warning that it can be quite harsh on the stomach.


If I absolutely had to pick a winner, I’d definitely go with Faverin—Zoloft just makes me feel too wired.
William Evans10 William Evans10 Active Member
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#4239 ·
My mother-in-law is currently dealing with a specific subtype of schizophrenia—specifically diagnosed as F25. Since yesterday, she’s started taking an antipsychotic called Oleanz, though she’s actually been on Faverin in the mornings for a while now. According to my psychiatrist, the Faverin helps extend and boost the overall effectiveness of the antipsychotic treatment... Does anyone here have any firsthand experience with this combination of medications? Or even just with Oleanz specifically? Thanks!
Thomas Rodriguez14 Thomas Rodriguez14 Member
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#4240 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:First off, what exactly does "extremely, extremely severe" mean in your eyes? He was prescribed Prozac, which is an antidepressant. Since you haven't mentioned any antipsychotics being part of his regimen, shouldn't we assume his reality testing is still intact—that is, he hasn't completely lost touch with reality? If he actually has, then Prozac certainly wouldn't be the solution here. Furthermore, since his doctor didn't recommend hospitalization, it stands to reason that he doesn't pose a significant danger to himself or others.

Don't you think that, even in his state, your stepfather should be the one to decide whether or not he wants to take medication? (I personally believe that even individuals experiencing intense psychosis should retain that right, though that is a subject open to debate.) If his behavior is making life miserable for you and your mother, there are other ways to address the situation. Slipping medication into his coffee strikes me as fundamentally wrong.

Look, I didn't come here for a lecture. Also, I totally forgot to mention in my last post that back in 2001, he was hospitalized for F25.2—schizoaffective disorder, mixed type, whatever that means. He refused the meds then, too. Things were okay for a bit, but everything went south in 2009 when he started talking nonsense and smashing stuff around the house. We called 911 and they kept him in the hospital for a month. By 2011, things got even worse; he saw a psychiatrist and was on Haldol, then his doctor switched him to clozapine. In 2012, he got Zoloft and Xanax, but he won't take them because he'll just wreck the house—so my question is, would the meds still work if they were hidden in his coffee or tea?

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