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Edward Long4 Edward Long4 Member
40 messages
joined Jul 2012
#4801 ·
redranger2 said:Honey, when you find yourself facing these kinds of high-tension situations at the vet, just take a Xanax—it’ll steady your nerves.
Personally, I don't permit myself to exist in that state of stress; why bother trembling and letting my heart race? I just take a shot of whiskey and call it a day. 😂 I refuse to suffer through this nonsense any longer; I've already dealt with enough in my life. 😍
Look, veterinarians don't understand people like us who spiral into panic attacks; they simply don't get what it's like when we lose it. 😂
The pup will be fine; she’s been through the trauma of surgery, so she won't bounce back instantly.
And don't assume you're heading straight back to Prozac; you're just spiraling because of the current chaos, but it will pass. 🙂

Honestly, nobody truly knows what they're capable of once that panic sets in. 😂

Man, I’d love a drink, but I’m trying to save my heart, dammit. If my only diagnosis was "anxiety," I’d be singing in the streets. 😍

I mean, it'll probably be okay. It's just... sometimes I’m actually scared of myself and how I react. It’s like some demons are poking me in the ass the second something goes wrong. 😍 I start shaking like a leaf, just like the very first time I ever had sex. 😂 😂
shadowfox75 shadowfox75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2006
#4802 ·
Brandon Lopez6 said:You sure they aren't expired? 😬
Jokes aside, maybe try to hang in there. I'd give anything to be able to go without those damn Xannies. They helped me out when I was trying to get off other pills, but man, they really messed me up in the end. 🙂

I didn't take it. No, it still has two months left before expiration. I completely understand where you're coming from... If only we could... But we will. You have the Xanax, I have the Prozac... we'll just have to support each other here.
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
656 messages
joined Feb 2010
#4803 ·
shadowfox75 said:I didn't take it. No, it still has two months left before expiration. I completely understand where you're coming from... If only we could... But we will. You have the Xanax, I have the Prozac... we'll just have to support each other here.

Sure can 🙂
you can never have enough support 🙂

even though I'm heading back for a new antidepressant, so we won't be worrying about tapering off the Xanax anytime soon 😉
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#4804 ·
redranger2 said:Mental health is a brutal business. Yes, it is highly probable that those stories about brain zaps amplified everything, especially since you're consciously stepping away from the medication and losing that sense of chemical security.
Try to breathe; it's hardly a tragedy to have been on an antidepressant for nine years, and frankly, I don't quite understand
why you're even attempting to taper off at all. Look at it this way: fine, you'll attempt to get off the meds, you'll give it a shot, and you might very well succeed. But if you don't, it isn't the end of the world; you just keep taking them.

I tend to hold a similar perspective regarding AT&T. I mean, what's the big deal if you end up on them for life? Some people take heart medication indefinitely, after all.
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#4805 ·
You probably ought to trust me, seeing as I am part of the Secret Service🙂
I suppose it would take more than just some little kid trying to settle me down... no offense intended!
wiredskipper45 wiredskipper45 Active Member
60 messages
joined Dec 2012
#4806 ·
Only managed about two hours and twenty minutes of sleep tonight, even after taking 1 mg of Xanax. Honestly, the stuff doesn't even touch it anymore at this dose. It’s frustrating. Does anyone actually know what the upper limit is for a single dose before things get dangerous? Any idea?
Edward Long4 Edward Long4 Member
40 messages
joined Jul 2012
#4807 ·
Morning, everyone. Honestly, I’m walking around like a total zombie today—I think I managed maybe two hours of sleep all night? I’m losing my mind.

My head is absolutely killing me today, too. 😢 Just popped some Tramadol, so let's see if my brain actually explodes or not. Once I finish lunch, though, I'm heading out for a walk to clear my head.
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
110 messages
joined Apr 2010
#4808 ·
wiredskipper45 said:Only managed about two hours and twenty minutes of sleep tonight, even after taking 1 mg of Xanax. Honestly, the stuff doesn't even touch it anymore at this dose. It’s frustrating. Does anyone actually know what the upper limit is for a single dose before things get dangerous? Any idea?

Typically, the maximum daily dose for anxiety sits around 4mg, though it can go up to 10mg if you're dealing with a panic disorder.
But let's be realistic—any medication can cause serious issues regardless of the amount prescribed. 😁
If your primary struggle is insomnia, wouldn't it make more sense to talk to your doctor about switching from Xanax to something specifically designed for sleep rather than forcing a sedative to do a job it wasn't meant for?
shadowfox75 shadowfox75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2006
#4809 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:I tend to hold a similar perspective regarding AT&T. I mean, what's the big deal if you end up on them for life? Some people take heart medication indefinitely, after all.

I agree that everyone faces their own struggles, but I would prefer to be cautious because more negative information about side effects is coming to light every single day.
I find it hard to believe that GlaxoSmithKline would face such massive penalties for concealing genuine side effects caused by Paxil, which remains one of the top-selling antidepressants. Besides, the official instructions state that the exact mechanism of action isn't even fully understood. I have been taking it for nearly ten years now, and I feel it is finally time to attempt to taper off.
To conclude, here is an example of how flawed the system can be.
I spoke with a neuropsychiatrist who also teaches neurology at a medical school; she is certainly highly educated. However, when I described the "brain zaps" I experience after stopping Paxil—which feel like intense electric shocks in my head—she looked at me blankly, clearly having no idea what I was talking about. She insisted these sensations weren't caused by discontinuing Paxil and instead referred me to get my cervical spine checked. Why do I only experience these sensations once I stop the medication, rather than while I am taking it? It seems they lack understanding, given how many people online and on forums like this discuss the hellish experiences of trying to quit. They claim these drugs don't cause "dependency," yet the reality suggests otherwise.
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wiredskipper45 wiredskipper45 Active Member
60 messages
joined Dec 2012
#4810 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:Typically, the maximum daily dose for anxiety sits around 4mg, though it can go up to 10mg if you're dealing with a panic disorder.
But let's be realistic—any medication can cause serious issues regardless of the amount prescribed. 😁
If your primary struggle is insomnia, wouldn't it make more sense to talk to your doctor about switching from Xanax to something specifically designed for sleep rather than forcing a sedative to do a job it wasn't meant for?

Yeah, sleep is the big one right now. 😢 I was on mirzapine for three years and slept like a log. But lately, my anxiety has been spiking, and I started worrying the meds were the cause, so I just stopped taking them altogether. Since then, I've been sleeping less and less every night, even while staying on the same amount of Xanax. Honestly, I had issues before I ever touched the mirzapine, and stuff like Ambien or Lunesta didn't do much for me back then either. 😢
Do you think things like Lyrica or Paxil work better for getting some rest?
redranger2 redranger2 Active Member
248 messages
joined Aug 2008
#4811 ·
wiredskipper45 said:Yeah, sleep is the big one right now. 😢 I was on mirzapine for three years and slept like a log. But lately, my anxiety has been spiking, and I started worrying the meds were the cause, so I just stopped taking them altogether. Since then, I've been sleeping less and less every night, even while staying on the same amount of Xanax. Honestly, I had issues before I ever touched the mirzapine, and stuff like Ambien or Lunesta didn't do much for me back then either. 😢
Do you think things like Lyrica or Paxil work better for getting some rest?

You need to head back to your psychiatrist and lay it all out for them. I find it hard to believe that
your anxiety intensified because of the Remeron, though perhaps your doctor will decide to prescribe
you a different antidepressant. When it comes to insomnia, antipsychotics are generally the most effective route. Don't just sit there struggling;
insomnia is a frequent symptom of both depression and anxiety, and it is something you absolutely have to address.😉
Timothy Wood38 Timothy Wood38 Active Member
197 messages
joined Feb 2011
#4812 ·
Edward Long4 said:Morning, everyone. Honestly, I’m walking around like a total zombie today—I think I managed maybe two hours of sleep all night? I’m losing my mind.

My head is absolutely killing me today, too. 😢 Just popped some Tramadol, so let's see if my brain actually explodes or not. Once I finish lunch, though, I'm heading out for a walk to clear my head.

Just a heads up, if you're on AD, you really shouldn't be taking Percocet. Just something to keep in mind for the future.🙂
shadowbear9 shadowbear9 Active Member
200 messages
joined Dec 2012
#4813 ·
wiredskipper45 said:Yeah, sleep is the big one right now. 😢 I was on mirzapine for three years and slept like a log. But lately, my anxiety has been spiking, and I started worrying the meds were the cause, so I just stopped taking them altogether. Since then, I've been sleeping less and less every night, even while staying on the same amount of Xanax. Honestly, I had issues before I ever touched the mirzapine, and stuff like Ambien or Lunesta didn't do much for me back then either. 😢
Do you think things like Lyrica or Paxil work better for getting some rest?

If Ambien didn't do anything for you, I honestly doubt Paxil is going to be any better. And don't even get me started on Normabest—maybe some higher doses would work? But fundamentally, a hypnotic is way more potent than these basic anti-anxiety meds, I guess.
Nicole Martinez8 Nicole Martinez8 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2013
#4814 ·
Eric Gray2 said:Since shouting—you know, typing in ALL CAPS—is strictly against the rules on this forum, I’d really appreciate it if you could take a moment to familiarize yourself with the guidelines before you start posting anything else. rules I can't quite tell what you're looking for—it looks like your message cut off right at the start! If you were trying to share something from the forum or had a specific question about a topic we've been discussing, just let me know. I'm here and ready to jump back into the conversation whenever you're ready. popisom Infraction.

My bad for the yelling. Look, Almost Rosie, I think you get where I'm coming from. I'm not out here telling anyone to do anything, especially not touching illegal stuff or ditching their meds. Is something "medical" or not? How much do you actually know about that? You'll have to agree that only someone who actually knows what they're doing—you know, someone with actual medical experience—can really weigh in on that.
Sayings like "nobody just picks up psych meds on their own; it’s always through a doctor" don't mean much. Half the time, people don't even know what's wrong with them—they just let a doctor decide and hand them a script for something like Seroquel. Look, I'm not being a jerk here. I get that if someone is dealing with acute psychosis, a doctor needs to step in and ease the load. But we aren't actually treating the underlying issue; we're just masking the symptoms. With Seroquel, it's basically...
Talking about "regulating" Quetiapine, or "balancing" serotonin for depression... please. It’s such a joke.
There are plenty of non-toxic ways to balance your levels, but honestly, handing out psych meds is easily the cheapest, easiest, and most nonsensical route. Long story short: my experience with Seroquel sucked. Just a heads-up to watch out for the side effects of this "medical" miracle, don't try to quit cold turkey, and keep an eye out—word on the street is that even the FDA might be looking into pulling it from the market.
Wishing you all good health and hoping you find some answers. Maybe give the alternatives a look. Hopefully I wasn't too much of a headache and played by the rules...
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#4815 ·
shadowbear9 said:If Ambien didn't do anything for you, I honestly doubt Paxil is going to be any better. And don't even get me started on Normabest—maybe some higher doses would work? But fundamentally, a hypnotic is way more potent than these basic anti-anxiety meds, I guess.

Guys, please do a little research first—Sanval is really just meant for helping you fall asleep faster quickly, and one pill usually only lasts about three hours. For more serious issues—you know, when we're talking about chronic insomnia—there are other medications available.
You really need to talk to a psychiatrist.
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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#4816 ·
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shadowbear9 shadowbear9 Active Member
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joined Dec 2012
#4817 ·
fadedbear92 said:Guys, please do a little research first—Sanval is really just meant for helping you fall asleep faster quickly, and one pill usually only lasts about three hours. For more serious issues—you know, when we're talking about chronic insomnia—there are other medications available.
You really need to talk to a psychiatrist.

Educate myself on what? I have read the instructions countless times and I have already discussed these medications with my doctor. It isn't just about falling asleep; it’s also for people who wake up constantly during the night or wake up way too early. In my specific case, this particular sedative is actually the most effective option... and sure, it works for three hours, but I don't just take one pill and hope for the best so I don't wake up after three hours. If I do wake up, I just take two more and get another round of sleep... I honestly thought the whole point of being here was to share actual personal experiences, not to have someone lecture me by quoting pharmaceutical pamphlets... ☕
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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joined Dec 2008
#4818 ·
shadowbear9 said:Educate myself on what? I have read the instructions countless times and I have already discussed these medications with my doctor. It isn't just about falling asleep; it’s also for people who wake up constantly during the night or wake up way too early. In my specific case, this particular sedative is actually the most effective option... and sure, it works for three hours, but I don't just take one pill and hope for the best so I don't wake up after three hours. If I do wake up, I just take two more and get another round of sleep... I honestly thought the whole point of being here was to share actual personal experiences, not to have someone lecture me by quoting pharmaceutical pamphlets... ☕

Aside from reading the labels, I was actually briefed by my therapist—who, mind you, has ten years of experience working with tons of patients—so let's not get ahead of ourselves regarding your little jab at me.
The most effective pill is different for everyone; there is no such thing as a universal fix.
Edward Long4 Edward Long4 Member
40 messages
joined Jul 2012
#4819 ·
Timothy Wood38 said:Just a heads up, if you're on AD, you really shouldn't be taking Percocet. Just something to keep in mind for the future.🙂


I don't take them. My psychiatrist took me off the ADs. And yeah, I used to take it back when I was on Zoloft for pain. Basically, I'm not allowed to touch anything except Tramadol or Tylenol. But let’s be real, Tylenol is absolute garbage for pain, so I end up taking Percocet. Just rarely though. Like, seriously rarely.
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
488 messages
joined Jul 2012
#4820 ·
fadedbear92 said:Guys, please do a little research first—Sanval is really just meant for helping you fall asleep faster quickly, and one pill usually only lasts about three hours. For more serious issues—you know, when we're talking about chronic insomnia—there are other medications available.
You really need to talk to a psychiatrist.

As for my own experience, I suffer from insomnia, though if I’m being precise, the struggle isn't staying asleep, but rather the agonizing difficulty of actually drifting off in the first place. Once I finally succumb to sleep, I tend to sleep for a solid 8 to 10 hours, even when I've taken 10 mg of Ambien. The only exception is during those darker stretches when my mental state is deteriorating; in those instances, I find myself waking up multiple times throughout the night, though I do manage to drift back under. During those bouts, I take some Benadryl just to knock me out. It honestly feels like I end up oversleeping, yet the initial onset is so incredibly difficult... I suppose I call that "severe insomnia," though perhaps I am misinterpreting the term if I read accounts here of people who can only manage a few hours of rest.🤷

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