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fadedbear92 said:It started at 3x 0.25 and ended up at 8x 0.5!!!!😲😲😲
Oof, that sounds like quite a lot. Was that other version I mentioned not quite what you were looking for?
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fadedbear92 said:It started at 3x 0.25 and ended up at 8x 0.5!!!!😲😲😲
Zachary Reed63 said:So, this is my first time posting here, but honestly, after scrolling through so many threads, I’m pretty terrified. About two months ago, I was diagnosed with severe depression... at first, my doctor put me on Celexa and Lexapro, but after about a month, everything just completely fell apart. I ended up overdosing on Lexapro and ended up cutting myself all over. The worst part is that I don't even remember doing it or why I did it. I guess the self-harm wasn't even meant to be a suicide attempt; maybe I just thought if I felt physical pain, I wouldn't have to deal with the emotional side of things. Anyway, that landed me in front of a psychiatrist who switched my meds to Effexor, Lexapro, and Valium, and then sent me off to group therapy. I started the Effexor yesterday, but I am absolutely terrified to touch the Valium because of everything I've read on here. Does it really make you feel like a zombie? I can't sleep to save my life. Lexapro used to help with the insomnia for a while, but not anymore. Is there anyone out there who hasn't had issues with Valium? Also, I'm curious about this group therapy thing. I can't even imagine sitting there talking about my deepest struggles in front of a bunch of strangers, or worse, having to sit there and listen to people with problems even heavier than mine. How is listening to everyone's sad stories actually supposed to help?
Thanks...
redranger2 said:The reality of the situation is that Xanax shouldn't be the primary tool in any treatment plan. It’s meant to be a temporary bridge until the antidepressant actually kicks in and starts doing its job, though unfortunately, we often see patients who remain anxious despite the antidepressant, leaving Xanax as their only means of relief.
Benzodiazepines and similar drugs ought to be treated as short-term fixes, much like taking ibuprofen for a toothache; you use it while the pain persists, but once the dentist fixes the underlying issue, the medication becomes unnecessary. That is how all anxiolytics should ideally be managed.
My psychiatrist is staunchly opposed to using Xanax, Mirtazapine, or other anxiolytics because he argues they depress the central nervous system and ultimately damage the nerves themselves. Similarly, he refuses to prescribe hypnotics like Valium, Zan, or Ambien for insomnia, citing the inevitable development of tolerance and the risk of exacerbating an existing depression. Consequently, I take antipsychotics to manage my sleep issues instead.
Jason Vaughn482 said:Yes, I am aware of that, but I haven't cycled through many different antidepressants yet. I intend to bring it up during my next appointment, though last time she was quite hesitant to prescribe Prozac... and while I have no desire to deal with Valium either, reading about the side effects of antipsychotics sends me into a complete tailspin of panic. Specifically, that mention of stroke is terrifying, especially since I already struggle with high blood pressure. My only thought is to take the absolute minimum dose possible, though I honestly don't even know which one to ask for.
Zachary Reed63 said:So, this is my first time posting here, but honestly, after scrolling through so many threads, I’m pretty terrified. About two months ago, I was diagnosed with severe depression... at first, my doctor put me on Celexa and Lexapro, but after about a month, everything just completely fell apart. I ended up overdosing on Lexapro and ended up cutting myself all over. The worst part is that I don't even remember doing it or why I did it. I guess the self-harm wasn't even meant to be a suicide attempt; maybe I just thought if I felt physical pain, I wouldn't have to deal with the emotional side of things. Anyway, that landed me in front of a psychiatrist who switched my meds to Effexor, Lexapro, and Valium, and then sent me off to group therapy. I started the Effexor yesterday, but I am absolutely terrified to touch the Valium because of everything I've read on here. Does it really make you feel like a zombie? I can't sleep to save my life. Lexapro used to help with the insomnia for a while, but not anymore. Is there anyone out there who hasn't had issues with Valium? Also, I'm curious about this group therapy thing. I can't even imagine sitting there talking about my deepest struggles in front of a bunch of strangers, or worse, having to sit there and listen to people with problems even heavier than mine. How is listening to everyone's sad stories actually supposed to help?
Thanks...
Paul Newman5 said:I’ve posted here a few times before. I’ve cycled through Lexapro, Xanax, and a short stint on Wellbutrin. Honestly, I can't tell which was worse; they all just left me feeling restless and incredibly irritable, which I had to settle down with Advil and Lexapro. I’m still on the meds today—Lexapro at 1.5mg three times a day for about five months, and Xanax at 0.5mg three times a day for about two and a half months. After the New Year, I tried stepping away from antidepressants to focus on alternative stuff—sports, meditation—but the jitters and anxiety never really left. It isn't depression; it's just constant nervousness and being on edge. I work, I take care of my family, but I can't seem to kick the Xanax or the Lexapro, even if some days are easier than others. Since most of you are on medication too, I have a question. Could I combine Xanax with something like Advil to slowly taper off the Xanax over a few months? I heard St. John's Wort can neutralize Xanax and other anxiolytics. If anyone knows anything about this or has actually tried it, I’d appreciate the info. Bioenergy helps me out quite a bit too, though I know this isn't really that kind of forum, so just mentioning it. Thanks for any answers.
Susan Edwards8 said:Man, you really gotta give them your whole medical history first. I learned that the hard way back in July when my doctor wouldn't even bother prescribing my heart meds properly.
Sophia Moore38 said:My dear Paul Newman5,
I am also constantly on edge and hyper-vigilant (just this morning I read about a twelve-year-old boy who collapsed dead),
so how could I possibly remain indifferent to such harrowing news?
I have been clean for nearly two and a half months now.
I used to take Paxil 8mg and Helix 0.25mg as needed.
The withdrawal process was brutal, but trying to actually function in daily life was even worse.
Currently, I am just on Helix 0.25mg as needed.
Some days I take two, other days I don't take any at all.
I work too, and I try my hardest to maintain focus and presence at the office, but I find myself buckling under the pressure quite often. 🙂
Is there truly any viable alternative to antidepressants?
Hey, if you don't mind me asking, what heart medications are you taking and what kind of doctor are you seeing?
Paul Newman5 said:Asked at the health clinic and they said Activin H doesn't interfere with Unknown, so it shouldn't neutralize it. Might try it to see if weaning off the Unknown goes smoother. Besides that, I'm doing therapy, meditating, Kundalini bioenergy, crystal healing... basically convincing myself everything will be fine. Doesn't mean it will, but I'll try it all before I head back to the psychiatrist for more meds. Not that I'll have a choice. It's not the drugs I'm afraid of—it's reading these forums and talking to people. I rarely hear about anyone being on them for a year and actually standing on their own two feet. Most people are on them for years, plus taking various antipsychotics just to sleep. Maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't seen many stories where the meds actually "cured" someone long-term. So I'll try everything first. I'm not claiming I won't end up back on them eventually. Who knows. My only mistake was going to the doctor first. I should have tried all this stuff before she put me on those meds that made me feel like a total wreck. Now I'm stuck with the Unknown. Whatever. I'm fighting it. We'll see. Are you scared to go to work? That's my only real fear. I'm terrified something will happen while I'm there and I'll lose my job. Everything else is fine. I drive, I do Pilates, I shop. It's just the mornings. After 11 AM, it's like I become a different person.
Roger Bennett62 said:Psych meds are a total trip, man. They’re legal and they look fine on paper, but honestly? Most of the time they just don't quite fill that void inside us. Sure, you can get pretty faded off some of these "helpers," but it's just not the same high... Everyone’s basically playing the same game—block this receptor, tweak that one, toss in a little bit of this...
My therapist says there’s no such thing as treating anxiety without benzos, or tackling depression without an antidepressant. Honestly, sometimes a benzo will pull a person out of a depressive funk way faster than an antidepressant ever could. If you actually look at the side effects for both—I mean, really look—it’s pretty obvious which one is easier to deal with.
I haven't met anyone who took Xanax, Clonazepam, or Lorazepam and ended up shaking uncontrollably or puking or being unable to, you know, function... But antidepressants? The side effects from those are absolutely insane. 😁
Susan Edwards8 said:Hey, bug, I’m taking Concor 1.25 mg because my heart keeps skipping beats. I was already on it even before starting the antidepressant.
Jason Vaughn482 said:Why are you taking both Unknown and Lexapro when they belong to essentially the same class of anxiolytics? I struggle with intense anxiety as well, though mine manifests as a constant, obsessive fear of illness; I am perpetually studying symptoms and hyper-analyzing every sensation in my body. In my experience, Prozac worked quite well for me, and I didn't require Xanax except for those initial three weeks to manage the side effects you mentioned—perhaps your course was simply too brief? Ultimately, I stopped taking it after four months. Like you, my mornings are the most grueling part of the day; it seems to be a hallmark characteristic of those of us living with anxiety.
Mark Nelson said:Roughly how long does it take for an AD dose increase to actually kick in?
Susan Edwards8 said:I've got some kind of buildup on my tonsils, so that's why... they aren't exactly dangerous, they just drive me absolutely nuts.😠