Psychotropic medication discussion thread

If someone actually claimed that Advil was never tested and was just a glorified placebo, everyone would call them a complete idiot. But let’s be real—most of these medications are basically nectar from the gods or some kind of alchemical potion. Seroxat was my lifeline, even if I spend half my time now complaining about wanting to get off it. That isn't really about the meds, though; it's more about my desire to close one chapter of my life and finally move on. I'm pretty sure I didn't take these pills just to end up face down on the floor. Or partying with Zeus.

Heh, so depression isn't considered a "real" illness, huh? ☕

Me, I’m just out here crushing my ADHD with some Zeus, haha! 😉

Robert Collins2 said:🤦

First off, every single medication goes through rigorous testing for years before it even hits the market, especially when we're talking about psychotropic drugs.

But hey, if this whole thing is just some massive fabrication and a bunch of treacherous lies, then are these next points also just the delusions of a crazy person—aka, me?

- Insomnia that dragged on for four straight months

- Dropping about 25 pounds

- Suicidal ideation, total apathy, shame, and compulsive behaviors

- Completely withdrawing from the world

- Losing coordination, fine motor skills, and basic logical brain function

- Serotonin syndrome and a suicide attempt

- Ending up in the ER where some butcher basically stitches up my forearms without any anesthesia

- Staying in the psych ward surrounded by semi-conscious patients and nurses who are convinced some little girl cut herself just because of some boy or whatever else

- And then having a rapid recovery thanks to those very same meds you're being so condescendingly dismissive of?

Alright, I'm listening... I'd love to hear your take on that... ☕

I wouldn't say my criticism is biased, much less unfounded. Everything I've said is backed by reality because someone actually did the digging.

Robert Collins2, for thousands upon thousands of other people, taking psych meds has ended in death.

What’s wrong with you? What kind of illness is this? Just eat some bacon and you'll be fine. 😉

Those aren't just side effects, they’re straight-up SYMPTOMS of actual depression, but hey, I guess you're clearly too "expert" to have a real conversation about this... 🙄

I mean, how would you even know if Advil is tested? Or Ibuprofen, or birth control pills, or penicillin, or even basic nasal spray? You could honestly sit here listing stuff until tomorrow and still not hit the mark... ☕

Douglas Long10 said:What’s wrong with you? What kind of illness is this? Just eat some bacon and you'll be fine. 😉

😵 😂

Give me a glass of red, some garlic, and a plate of smoked ham—nothing cures a bad mood better than that!!! 🎉

Robert Collins2 said:Those aren't just side effects, they’re straight-up SYMPTOMS of actual depression, but hey, I guess you're clearly too "expert" to have a real conversation about this... 🙄

I mean, how would you even know if Advil is tested? Or Ibuprofen, or birth control pills, or penicillin, or even basic nasal spray? You could honestly sit here listing stuff until tomorrow and still not hit the mark... ☕

I didn't read my own post until after I'd already hit send, so I edited it.

Birth control works, penicillin works, nasal spray works. Unfortunately, psych meds just don't.

Ryan Palmer2 said:I wouldn't say my criticism is biased, much less unfounded. Everything I've said is backed by reality because someone actually did the digging.

Robert Collins2, for thousands upon thousands of other people, taking psych meds has ended in death.

The thing is, "psychotropic drugs" is such a massive, vague umbrella term. You've got your anxiolytics, antiepileptics, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, antidepressants, hypnotics, and the list goes on forever.

People have died taking those too, just like countless women who were on the Yasmin pill—so what does that prove? ☕

Does it mean they were stupid for not wanting to get pregnant? Or that me, and a whole bunch of other folks, were stupid for not wanting to end our own lives or spend the rest of our days stuck in a mental ward, so we chose to take that poison instead?

Every single medication is potentially lethal if you aren't dosing it right or taking it under strict medical supervision. Plus, if someone has an underlying condition or a physical anomaly they haven't caught yet that makes a specific drug a bad idea, then yeah, that's the end of the road...

Ryan Palmer2 said:I didn't read my own post until after I'd already hit send, so I edited it.

Birth control works, penicillin works, nasal spray works. Unfortunately, psych meds just don't.

Look, you never even bothered to take them in the first place, so obviously they aren't doing anything for you. It’s not exactly rocket science, right? ☕

Look, I didn't even ask you that. If you're going to sit there and act like you know what you're talking about, then go ahead—lay it all out for me. Show me the actual evidence. Bring out the clinical studies that SCIENTIFICALLY back up those lies and those totally biased conclusions you're throwing around.

Robert Collins2 said:The thing is, "psychotropic drugs" is such a massive, vague umbrella term. You've got your anxiolytics, antiepileptics, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, antidepressants, hypnotics, and the list goes on forever.

People have died taking those too, just like countless women who were on the Yasmin pill—so what does that prove? ☕

Does it mean they were stupid for not wanting to get pregnant? Or that me, and a whole bunch of other folks, were stupid for not wanting to end our own lives or spend the rest of our days stuck in a mental ward, so we chose to take that poison instead?

Every single medication is potentially lethal if you aren't dosing it right or taking it under strict medical supervision. Plus, if someone has an underlying condition or a physical anomaly they haven't caught yet that makes a specific drug a bad idea, then yeah, that's the end of the road...

Who says I think girls who take the Yasmin pill are stupid?

I’m just pointing out that a huge number of people have taken their own lives after being put on psychotropic drugs.

If that side effect wasn't listed in the instructions, then it’s a straight-up cover-up. It's a violation of a patient's right to actually know what they're putting in their body. Sorry, Meta, but you aren't the problem, and neither are the people taking this stuff. They aren't to blame; they're just looking for help and haven't been given the full story. The fault lies with the people handing out what is essentially lethal poison under the guise of "medicine" without being transparent about the risks. Look at any of those horrific school shootings in America—every single one of those perpetrators was on Ritalin. One of its side effects is turning someone into a potential killer. That is exactly the kind of information people need to be told about every single pill.

Robert Collins2 said:Look, you never even bothered to take them in the first place, so obviously they aren't doing anything for you. It’s not exactly rocket science, right? ☕

Look, I didn't even ask you that. If you're going to sit there and act like you know what you're talking about, then go ahead—lay it all out for me. Show me the actual evidence. Bring out the clinical studies that SCIENTIFICALLY back up those lies and those totally biased conclusions you're throwing around.

I linked a few posts above, so feel free to take a look and listen.

They killed themselves because of THEIR OWN ILLNESS, not because of any medication, so quit the nonsense...

So you're basically implying that anyone taking these meds is stupid? Indirectly, at least. By that logic, since we're all patients trying to actually get better, does that make every single one of us idiots just for following a treatment plan? Or is the brain not actually a physical organ, meaning there’s no such thing as an actual disease or brain pathology? ☕

It’s almost as if psychotropic drugs—especially antidepressants—don't even come with warnings about how they can trigger suicidal thoughts or deeper depression. It feels completely nonsensical that taking an antidepressant could actually cause depression, but that's the reality. Honestly, I don't think anyone takes their own life because of the medication alone; it's more about a fragmented, incomplete approach to treatment. Has any psychiatrist ever been held accountable when one of their patients commits suicide? Look at that recent tragedy where the police shot a man suffering from a mental health crisis who was threatening people with a bomb. Why couldn't his psychiatrist, who was right there during the intervention, do anything to prevent it? How did she fail to realize he needed to be hospitalized to prevent such a disaster?

Robert Collins2 said:They killed themselves because of THEIR OWN ILLNESS, not because of any medication, so quit the nonsense...

So you're basically implying that anyone taking these meds is stupid? Indirectly, at least. By that logic, since we're all patients trying to actually get better, does that make every single one of us idiots just for following a treatment plan? Or is the brain not actually a physical organ, meaning there’s no such thing as an actual disease or brain pathology? ☕

First off, let's keep this civil.

Look, I'm not saying people who drink them are stupid.

Thirdly, you can't just label every little life struggle as a medical condition just to get a prescription for pills.

Robert Collins2 said:🤦

First off, every single medication goes through rigorous testing for years before it even hits the market, especially when we're talking about psychotropic drugs.

But hey, if this whole thing is just some massive fabrication and a bunch of treacherous lies, then are these next points also just the delusions of a crazy person—aka, me?

- Insomnia that dragged on for four straight months

- Dropping about 25 pounds

- Suicidal ideation, total apathy, shame, and compulsive behaviors

- Completely withdrawing from the world

- Losing coordination, fine motor skills, and basic logical brain function

- Serotonin syndrome and a suicide attempt

- Ending up in the ER where some butcher basically stitches up my forearms without any anesthesia

- Staying in the psych ward surrounded by semi-conscious patients and nurses who are convinced some little girl cut herself just because of some boy or whatever else

- And then having a rapid recovery thanks to those very same meds you're being so condescendingly dismissive of?

Alright, I'm listening... I'd love to hear your take on that... ☕

Could you please explain the loss of coordination, fine motor skills, and cognitive function in more detail? How did that actually look? Thanks.

dustygardener25 said:Could you please explain the loss of coordination, fine motor skills, and cognitive function in more detail? How did that actually look? Thanks.

Why can't you just let her be? She literally just said she's finally past all that.

Ryan Palmer2 said:First off, let's keep this civil.

Look, I'm not saying people who drink them are stupid.

Thirdly, you can't just label every little life struggle as a medical condition just to get a prescription for pills.

So this is what I've been waiting for, huh? According to you, depression isn't even a real illness—we're all just making things up, a bunch of attention-seekers and drama queens who love hearing ourselves talk, right? Is that how it works?

I guess I just don't know how to have a civil conversation since I'm clearly just some pill-popping lunatic, right? ☕

Ryan Palmer2 said:First off, let's keep this civil.

Look, I'm not saying people who drink them are stupid.

Thirdly, you can't just label every little life struggle as a medical condition just to get a prescription for pills.

That "struggle" you're talking about might actually be a mental health issue that requires medication—not exclusively meds, but they play a part. And in those cases, a licensed psychiatrist diagnoses the situation and gives it a proper name. Doctors prescribe the pills, so if you have an issue with how things are handled, aim that criticism at the psychiatrists. They're the ones who decide when someone is just having a rough time and when they actually need medicine.

Ryan Palmer2 said:Why can't you just let her be? She literally just said she's finally past all that.

I'm asking for a good reason. Why does it matter who I ask? It seems like you just showed up here specifically to start an argument.

dustygardener25 said:Could you please explain the loss of coordination, fine motor skills, and cognitive function in more detail? How did that actually look? Thanks.

It’s pretty straightforward, really. I couldn't check my blind spots while driving, I couldn't even pull away from a stoplight without stalling the car, things were constantly slipping right out of my hands, and I’d completely blank on basic words and definitions—and look, I’m an English professor, if that doesn't tell you how messed up it was. That’s the thing about this disease; it’s beautiful in its cruelty, hitting you exactly where it hurts most, tearing down everything you are until you're just a shell of a person, staring down the barrel of suicide...

Some people are never going to get it, but let me tell you, I was living in a total nightmare. I was three minutes away from a stroke or just flat-out dying. And yeah, I was on psych meds. I still am. They’re the reason I stayed afloat long enough to start therapy and actually face myself. I’m not popping massive, old-school doses anymore; I’m on much lower amounts now, strictly under my doctor's supervision. I don't just toss them back blindly, and I never will. But those medications? For me, and for so many others, they were a literal lifeline. They saved my life.

So don't bother coming at me with your "research" or your links trying to prove me wrong. It's not happening. Period. End of story. ☕