Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

William Anderson5 said:It wasn't the world or this forum that irrationally escalated the conflict by announcing mobilization—it was Putin.

Sure, but the reality is that the world isn't aiming for de-escalation; it's aiming for a Russian defeat. And that’s dangerous for everyone involved. Let me be clear: Russia is the aggressor. Ignoring that would be reckless, yet there seems to be zero effort from the West to lower the temperature. Instead, it feels like they are pushing for a total knockout blow—one side or the other—with the goal of ensuring Russia emerges as depleted as possible. They haven't earned anything else, and peace isn't on the table for the West right now, at least not yet. I remember when we had to negotiate with the insurgents back in the day, offering calculated concessions and trying everything until we finally got the green light for the major offensive. Even then, we were halted near the border because of threats involving US aircraft. We didn't get weapons; we got an embargo, leaving us essentially stranded. Of course, making concessions to Russia wouldn't be "fair," but we were expected to make them just to stop the bloodshed. That isn't happening here. Because of that, the question remains: how does this all end?

crimsonwolf26 said:Just how much hardware does Russia actually have left in their inventory? They can't just send everything over to Ukraine and leave a massive, undefended gap stretching all the way from the Caucasus to Vladivostok.
And let's be honest, they're probably running low on Western components too. What are they going to fight with once those supplies dry up? Are they going to rely on tech from the 70s or 80s, or will they just start depending entirely on Iran to keep them going?🙂

They'll just end up buying from China instead.

crimsonwolf26 said:Just how much hardware does Russia actually have left in their inventory? They can't just send everything over to Ukraine and leave a massive, undefended gap stretching all the way from the Caucasus to Vladivostok.
And let's be honest, they're probably running low on Western components too. What are they going to fight with once those supplies dry up? Are they going to rely on tech from the 70s or 80s, or will they just start depending entirely on Iran to keep them going?🙂

They're mostly missing those high-tech pieces, like microchips, and honestly, I highly doubt one country like Iran can make up for that gap.

analogbear70 said:Sure, but the reality is that the world isn't aiming for de-escalation; it's aiming for a Russian defeat. And that’s dangerous for everyone involved. Let me be clear: Russia is the aggressor. Ignoring that would be reckless, yet there seems to be zero effort from the West to lower the temperature. Instead, it feels like they are pushing for a total knockout blow—one side or the other—with the goal of ensuring Russia emerges as depleted as possible. They haven't earned anything else, and peace isn't on the table for the West right now, at least not yet. I remember when we had to negotiate with the insurgents back in the day, offering calculated concessions and trying everything until we finally got the green light for the major offensive. Even then, we were halted near the border because of threats involving US aircraft. We didn't get weapons; we got an embargo, leaving us essentially stranded. Of course, making concessions to Russia wouldn't be "fair," but we were expected to make them just to stop the bloodshed. That isn't happening here. Because of that, the question remains: how does this all end?

The thing is, Russia has zero interest in de-escalating. You saw the coverage from the UN yesterday; every single time someone approached the Russians to talk negotiations, the answer was just a flat "NO" because their military objectives hadn't been met yet.

They aren't looking to talk. They either want Ukraine carved up and handed over, or they want to try and take everything they set their sights on by force. At this point, it seems like the only move left is to defeat them militarily so they can't pull off whatever they've planned.

Christian Barnes said:They'll just end up buying from China instead.

The fact that Russia is receiving military equipment could serve as a perfectly valid justification for imposing sanctions on China...

Man, they’ve completely run out of tickets for flights heading to Istanbul, Yerevan, and Baku...

Nicole James said:The fact that Russia is receiving military equipment could serve as a perfectly valid justification for imposing sanctions on China...

🤣🤣

Even if they draft you, those mortgage payments aren't going anywhere

"Andrew Kartapolov, who heads up the House Defense Committee, basically said that folks called up during this partial mobilization are still on the hook for their mortgages. According to the Shot Telegram Channel, that's the official word.

"Look, if you get drafted, you'll just keep paying that mortgage using your new paycheck—which, by the way, is supposed to be huge," the deputy claimed.

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp

They might even go as far as buying up a whole farm.

gentlerider7 said:Even if they draft you, those mortgage payments aren't going anywhere

"Andrew Kartapolov, who heads up the House Defense Committee, basically said that folks called up during this partial mobilization are still on the hook for their mortgages. According to the Shot Telegram Channel, that's the official word.

"Look, if you get drafted, you'll just keep paying that mortgage using your new paycheck—which, by the way, is supposed to be huge," the deputy claimed.

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp

But what happens to health insurance and social security when they come home without a leg, an arm, or an eye, etc.?

A Russian ammo dump located in Svat was just completely wiped out in the Lugansk region.

Up until yesterday, the big narrative was that this whole special operation was going exactly according to plan—just some strategic repositioning here and there, with casualties supposedly under 6,000 soldiers. And now, all of a sudden, we’re hearing about full-scale mobilization? To quote Vojko V—how does that even make sense? How does that work?

Every single flight heading toward Yerevan or Istanbul is fully booked. There is no way this ends any other way than with Putin's head served on a silver platter. The only real question left is when it finally happens, and how many thousands—maybe tens or even hundreds of thousands—will have to throw their lives away needlessly before it does.

gentlemoose57 said:Japan.

Setting aside all those bloody island-hopping battles across the Pacific.

gentlerider7 said:Man, they’ve completely run out of tickets for flights heading to Istanbul, Yerevan, and Baku...

Honestly, this whole thing is on a whole different level compared to the mass exodus we saw back in Kharkiv 🙏 🙏

electricstag9 said:Up until yesterday, the big narrative was that this whole special operation was going exactly according to plan—just some strategic repositioning here and there, with casualties supposedly under 6,000 soldiers. And now, all of a sudden, we’re hearing about full-scale mobilization? To quote Vojko V—how does that even make sense? How does that work?

Every single flight heading toward Yerevan or Istanbul is fully booked. There is no way this ends any other way than with Putin's head served on a silver platter. The only real question left is when it finally happens, and how many thousands—maybe tens or even hundreds of thousands—will have to throw their lives away needlessly before it does.

It really looks like there aren't many choices left for Russians: either they go die in Ukraine, or they face the consequences back home in Russia. The sooner they wrap their heads around that reality, the better it might be for them...

Nicole James said:The fact that Russia is receiving military equipment could serve as a perfectly valid justification for imposing sanctions on China...

Honestly, that’s almost brilliant. We’d crush inflation almost overnight, but the trade-off would be unemployment rates looking just as grim as they were during the COVID era—only this time, we wouldn't have the Federal Reserve printing money to bail us out. 😁

coastalbison6 said:Looks like another big shot just had a meltdown
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status...27509668876289

They really should just move their offices to the ground floor—makes things simpler.

Nathan Evans78 said:Honestly, that’s almost brilliant. We’d crush inflation almost overnight, but the trade-off would be unemployment rates looking just as grim as they were during the COVID era—only this time, we wouldn't have the Federal Reserve printing money to bail us out. 😁

The real question is simply when we’ll see it happen. It would certainly provide plenty of fuel for Americans to talk about.

I find myself wondering, given that a partial mobilization has been ordered, does this effectively mean that a state of partial war has also been declared? 🤔

fadedjackal8 said:I remember seeing an article somewhere saying even the inmates aren't really stepping up to join those Wagner units.

Looks like word got out in the cellblocks that coming back from Ukraine usually means coming home in a casket.

Basically, those who get lucky make it home—everyone else just stays out there in the Ukrainian fields or gets processed by some mobile crematorium.