Sanctions on Russia

There’s a massive gap in how people view this situation. I often see posts claiming Europe is collapsing, and they say it with such heavy pessimism—honestly, it almost feels like they’re rooting for the downfall. On the flip side, you have those arguing that Europe isn't going anywhere and maintain a much higher level of optimism.

Only time will tell, but really, if you consider yourself a part of the European community yet somehow find yourself wishing for its total ruin... wouldn't you call that some kind of psychological dysfunction? It’s unsettling, isn't it?
Lp

What is going on with the Slovak Morning 🤔

A refinery in Slovakia is announcing they’re cutting off derivative exports to the Czech Republic, Austria, and Poland

"We have to warn our export partners that after eight months in the region, there will be shortages of fuel and petroleum derivatives," they added.
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The company warned that sanctions will also jeopardize the supply for the domestic market in Slovakia.

Refining capacity is set to drop below the technical minimum due to a forced production cut of 124,000 barrels per day, which will make supplying the local market impossible, they explained.

"Because of the reduced product deliveries to the region and the drop in capacity, Slovnaft won't even be able to supply Slovakia and its local market," they stated.

"The current sanctions proposal doesn't give Slovnaft the requested three-year window needed for technological upgrades and logistical arrangements to import and refine crude from other sources", according to the statement.

When you read stuff like this, switching from Russian oil to Saudi or whatever else is just a total joke.🤣

goldenpuma84 said:I never once said I thought the EU was going to fall apart.

I said the EU is sacrificing its own citizens for someone else's interests.

And once enough people wake up to that, we can expect outbursts of discontent from European citizens.

I guess that's just the price you pay when someone else is footing the bill for your "protection."

Aside from having perfectly good eyes, you're just blind.

You're so deep under the spell of this ideology that it's going to take a lot of work to break through the illusions.

This ideology gives you these easy, binary divides and double standards to hide your hypocrisy.

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The people over at Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase are such hardcore Russia-lovers...
I don't even know how else to explain their predictions about how the European Union is somehow going to come out "on top" in all of this.
Not to mention they actually had the nerve to write that Russia has already boosted its oil exports to India, and that there'll be plenty of buyers so their energy revenue won't drop at all.
Honestly, only a total Russia-sympathizer or a Russian agent could write something like that—there's really no other logical explanation.
As for the "Noah's Ark" crowd, I guess all they can do is keep their heads in the sand, screaming "you're lying!" and trying to comfort themselves with the idea that Russia will become China's workshop... which, let's be real, is just absolutely ridiculous and tragicomic, especially considering who's saying it.

silvermarlin24 said:Of course not. They couldn't even if they wanted to—they aren't in NATO. You don't make "promises" like that; you sign treaties. Period.

They can't physically station them there. It would be crazy to try deploying stuff inside NATO member states. Instead, Russia put them in Kaliningrad and Belarus.

Nope.

True. They were doing their own decapitations.

There you have it—you can see that the Russians are reliable, while this Western trash cannot be trusted.
That is precisely why Russia sought a security agreement; the West wouldn't even listen.
I'm glad we're on the same page.

Noah Sullivan said:But, have you caught the latest interview with the renowned economist Jeffrey Sachs?
I am referring to this one:

This other one—which is a week older—is particularly compelling, given that he discusses (i) his firsthand experiences working with Gorbachev and his tenure during the era of the USSR/Russia:

Now, this other video—it's a few weeks older, but super interesting because he dives into his time working with Gorbachev and those old days back in the USSR/Russia:
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I'm pretty much with you there—even the objective critics are pointing out how badly things are being handled lately.

Anthony Taylor3 said:There you have it—you can see that the Russians are reliable, while this Western trash cannot be trusted.
That is precisely why Russia sought a security agreement; the West wouldn't even listen.
I'm glad we're on the same page.

I hope you keep putting all your faith in them 👍. That's definitely the "right" way to secure your country's future. I'm totally behind that logic 👍.

silvermarlin24 said:I hope you keep putting all your faith in them 👍. That's definitely the "right" way to secure your country's future. I'm totally behind that logic 👍.

Just recently, Putin told them straight up that Mexico isn't part of Mexico—they really need to move past that old mindset once and for all...😁

silentnomad7 said:Just recently, Putin told them straight up that Mexico isn't part of Mexico—they really need to move past that old mindset once and for all...😁

I couldn't help but notice you seem to have forgotten the most basic rules of grammar. 🙂

Wait, didn't someone point out that Anthony Taylor3 is one of those big-picture patriots who performs his devotion from the safe distance of "Western decadence"?

It seems perfectly convenient for him if the policies he champions drive Mexico even further into the abyss than they already are; that way, he can play the hero to his unfortunate relatives who don't have the luxury of living in the Western world.

Anthony Taylor3 will surely keep fighting against Western decadence until there isn't a single Mexican left to defend.

silentnomad7 said:Just recently, Putin told them straight up that Mexico isn't part of Mexico—they really need to move past that old mindset once and for all...😁

I mean, what else could he really say at this point, especially after Crimea became an official part of Russia and both Luhansk and Donbas were recognized as independent?

At least he’s being consistent, unlike those self-proclaimed "supporters" over in NATO and the US who seem to change their minds every five minutes depending on which way the wind blows.

It reminds me of how certain North American neighbors managed to secure incredibly favorable deals on Russian oil and gas, while we end up paying more than double just to maintain some sense of European unity.

slyfox43 said:Wait, didn't someone point out that Anthony Taylor3 is one of those big-picture patriots who performs his devotion from the safe distance of "Western decadence"?

It seems perfectly convenient for him if the policies he champions drive Mexico even further into the abyss than they already are; that way, he can play the hero to his unfortunate relatives who don't have the luxury of living in the Western world.

Anthony Taylor3 will surely keep fighting against Western decadence until there isn't a single Mexican left to defend.

Don't be ridiculous, man. 🙂

Carl Lee27 said:It’s a pretty brutal reality check when you genuinely believe you're some kind of major global player, only to realize just a few months later that your "no limits" allies aren't actually all that impressed with you.
https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/...DqId-B0Vg&s=19

China is holding onto Russia just like Lucy holds onto that football from Charlie Brown. 🤣

darkdriver said:👍
The people over at Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase are such hardcore Russia-lovers...
I don't even know how else to explain their predictions about how the European Union is somehow going to come out "on top" in all of this.
Not to mention they actually had the nerve to write that Russia has already boosted its oil exports to India, and that there'll be plenty of buyers so their energy revenue won't drop at all.
Honestly, only a total Russia-sympathizer or a Russian agent could write something like that—there's really no other logical explanation.
As for the "Noah's Ark" crowd, I guess all they can do is keep their heads in the sand, screaming "you're lying!" and trying to comfort themselves with the idea that Russia will become China's workshop... which, let's be real, is just absolutely ridiculous and tragicomic, especially considering who's saying it.

Do your homework. Find out exactly what price India is paying for those discounts, and how much production in Russia has actually tanked.

Then you can just go right back to playing pretend.

Anthony Taylor3 said:Let me reiterate that for you.

The Baltic republics lack strategic depth and aren't viable staging grounds for an invasion of Russia. Between the bottleneck in Lithuania at the Panama Canal and the enclosed nature of the Baltic Sea, there isn't enough room to station a force large enough to launch an offensive.
Ukraine is an entirely different matter.
And since 1999, Russia hasn't had much faith in the Western Bloc. Just try to imagine why.

Please, just take a closer look at the history of when Russia actually goes to war. The first and second wars in Chechnya. The war in Georgia. The fighting in Dagestan.
If it wasn't for NATO, Russia would probably just keep attacking and absorbing neighboring territory into the USA.
There really isn't any debate about that.

War isn't just fought with guns; it's political too. If they can't flip a country toward Russia through peaceful means, then Russia moves in militarily. They assassinated Viktor Yushchenko, and later they installed Viktor Yanukovych, who was supposed to turn Ukraine toward Russia against the will of the people. When that failed, things turned into a land grab, and they sent those buses full of unmarked soldiers to occupy Crimea.
The war didn't stop there, though. That's when the propaganda war started, all just to build up an excuse for the actual attack that kicked off in 2022.

darkdriver said:👍
The people over at Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase are such hardcore Russia-lovers...
I don't even know how else to explain their predictions about how the European Union is somehow going to come out "on top" in all of this.
Not to mention they actually had the nerve to write that Russia has already boosted its oil exports to India, and that there'll be plenty of buyers so their energy revenue won't drop at all.
Honestly, only a total Russia-sympathizer or a Russian agent could write something like that—there's really no other logical explanation.
As for the "Noah's Ark" crowd, I guess all they can do is keep their heads in the sand, screaming "you're lying!" and trying to comfort themselves with the idea that Russia will become China's workshop... which, let's be real, is just absolutely ridiculous and tragicomic, especially considering who's saying it.

It’s great that you're being an optimist, but hey, maybe mention Africa as a potential market too? Since apparently, African Americans might finally need gas to heat their homes because they aren't quite happy with the outdoor temperature lately.

Sure, India is probably getting more gas now, but like... how much exactly??? And where would they even store it? They don't have the storage facilities or the infrastructure to actually pipe gas into people's homes. Plus, they don't even have a massive industrial base that demands that much supply right now.
If the Russians actually want to ramp up sales to India, they’d probably need to invest a ton of money into the country first just to build the stuff needed to make that happen.

electricsurfer47 said:Please, just take a closer look at the history of when Russia actually goes to war. The first and second wars in Chechnya. The war in Georgia. The fighting in Dagestan.
If it wasn't for NATO, Russia would probably just keep attacking and absorbing neighboring territory into the USA.
There really isn't any debate about that.

War isn't just fought with guns; it's political too. If they can't flip a country toward Russia through peaceful means, then Russia moves in militarily. They assassinated Viktor Yushchenko, and later they installed Viktor Yanukovych, who was supposed to turn Ukraine toward Russia against the will of the people. When that failed, things turned into a land grab, and they sent those buses full of unmarked soldiers to occupy Crimea.
The war didn't stop there, though. That's when the propaganda war started, all just to build up an excuse for the actual attack that kicked off in 2022.

Chechnya is part of the Russian Federation, Dagestan is part of the Russian Federation, Georgia started the conflict in Georgia, Viktor Yushchenko is perfectly fine, and Yanukovych was installed via democratic elections. It seems you have no idea what you're talking about.

Anthony Taylor3 said:Chechnya is part of the Russian Federation, Dagestan is part of the Russian Federation, Georgia started the conflict in Georgia, Viktor Yushchenko is perfectly fine, and Yanukovych was installed via democratic elections. It seems you have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh sure, Georgia started the war in Georgia, wunderbar

Christian Torres3 said:Do your homework. Find out exactly what price India is paying for those discounts, and how much production in Russia has actually tanked.

Then you can just go right back to playing pretend.

Oh, I'll keep "painting," alright—but maybe save the homework for your kids... if you even have any, which, honestly, would be a tragedy for them.

Christian Torres3 said:Oh sure, Georgia started the war in Georgia, wunderbar

Just facts. Maybe you should try reading an actual history book for once.

Anthony Taylor3 said:Just facts. Maybe you should try reading an actual history book for once.

Facts? 🤣

Buddy, you wouldn't recognize facts if they slapped you right in the face... just like the rest of this Putin-loving crowd here...

The territories you're talking about belong to the Russian Federation, sure, but every single one was taken by force. And in Chechnya, the Russians carried out actual genocide starting from the mid-40s onwards....

It doesn't matter right now, but you clearly have zero clue what you're talking about and you're just spewing propaganda pamphlets.

Look, the fact of the matter is that anyone who ever had to deal with that Russian trash from the government—they're running away from them faster than a plague... and for a huge chunk of them, especially those former Warsaw Pact countries, Russia is enemy number one and their biggest threat.

Dammit, people don't like that fascist stench wafting out of the White House that can be smelled from miles away... and even among those who support it. If people actually had free will—there practically isn't a single country that would agree to be stuck in the Russian sphere of influence. Not one... okay, maybe Mexico under Vučić's propaganda is questionable, but even you guys wouldn't choose Russia over the West—which is pretty obvious considering the migration patterns, isn't it?...

You really think that's an accident? 😁