Sanctions on Russia

Brenda Murphy3 said:Aha...😒

Regarding Mexico—I was being crystal clear—even for someone at a Putinophile level... did you just not get it?😁

Look, go ask the Finns what kind of issues they're facing that drive them into this anti-Russian alliance. Or maybe they’re just crazy and brainwashed by propaganda... I mean, it's a society deeply gripped by paranoia from state-run media. It's nothing like a place like Mexico or Belarus (..my bad—and Eritrea too..😁 ).

Since you're clearly struggling with basic comprehension, I suggest reading this post a few more times... and when you think you're ready to reply—don't!! Just go back a few posts and read those first. Got it?

So yeah... just doing a little bit of community service by educating these Putinophile idiots... thanks.🍿

I'm asking you because you latched onto the Finns. Clearly, you don't have an answer, so you're forced to play dumb and dodge the question.

And what's wrong with Mexico or Belarus? Aren't they "European" enough or "Aryan" enough for you? And yet, here you are, lecturing me about fascism.
That's hilarious.

Anthony Taylor3 said:Well, they’ve been shelling Donetsk for eight years straight, so your logic is flawless.

But why did the fighting start? From what I’ve heard...

- The American side claims Russia just swooped in, seized Crimea, and kept pushing further, forcing Ukraine to defend its territory through sporadic military clashes. They estimate about 13,000 people died, including 3,000 civilians.

- On the other hand, the Russian perspective is that Ukraine started unprovoked because of extremist groups causing chaos and targeting Russians in that region, resulting in 14,000 civilian deaths.

Anthony Taylor3 said:I'm asking you because you latched onto the Finns. Clearly, you don't have an answer, so you're forced to play dumb and dodge the question.

And what's wrong with Mexico or Belarus? Aren't they "European" enough or "Aryan" enough for you? And yet, here you are, lecturing me about fascism.
That's hilarious.

Of course they are. Honestly, they’re just little baby dictatorships, which is exactly why the Russians are so obsessed with them. There aren't any bigger fascists out there, if you ask me. Everything they’re trying to offload from the Azov guys over to their side? You see that same stuff playing out there, just amplified about a hundred times over.
It’s like that old saying about the owl mocking its own shadow... you know, when someone spends all their time pointing out everyone else's flaws just to avoid looking at their own mess.

Thomas Walker84 said:But why did the fighting start? From what I’ve heard...

- The American side claims Russia just swooped in, seized Crimea, and kept pushing further, forcing Ukraine to defend its territory through sporadic military clashes. They estimate about 13,000 people died, including 3,000 civilians.

- On the other hand, the Russian perspective is that Ukraine started unprovoked because of extremist groups causing chaos and targeting Russians in that region, resulting in 14,000 civilian deaths.

Perhaps it's worth looking at some actual facts?
There was gunfire during the Maidan protests, which naturally sparked demonstrations on both sides.
Then you had extremists setting fires in Odessa and shelling people in the Donbas. It also just so happened that the Ukrainian air force was dropping bombs on Donetsk, and even after the ceasefire, they kept shelling cities instead of honoring the Minsk agreements.
The OSCE reports back this up.

hollowdriver13 said:Of course they are. Honestly, they’re just little baby dictatorships, which is exactly why the Russians are so obsessed with them. There aren't any bigger fascists out there, if you ask me. Everything they’re trying to offload from the Azov guys over to their side? You see that same stuff playing out there, just amplified about a hundred times over.
It’s like that old saying about the owl mocking its own shadow... you know, when someone spends all their time pointing out everyone else's flaws just to avoid looking at their own mess.

By that logic, I suppose you won't have any trouble listing all the SS divisions that are celebrated in those same countries.🙂

Anthony Taylor3 said:I'm asking you because you latched onto the Finns. Clearly, you don't have an answer, so you're forced to play dumb and dodge the question.

And what's wrong with Mexico or Belarus? Aren't they "European" enough or "Aryan" enough for you? And yet, here you are, lecturing me about fascism.
That's hilarious.

🙂 nah dude, no no... stop lying to yourself... get it together for once, for God's sake...😁

You were the one who brought up the Finns as an example of a country that has "normal" relations with Russia... meanwhile, they're simultaneously rushing to join what that little fascist Vlad would call an "anti-Russian" alliance... so we were just having a little chat about what "normal" actually means in Russian... or maybe it's Mexican??

Mexico and Belarus are lacking freedom, and they've got a surplus of fascists running the show at the top... so yeah, they're short on some things and definitely overstocked on others...😁

Alright, let's go again... or is that all you've got before we just sit here waiting for the next idiot to step up to the plate...(ah... bliss...🍿 ).

Brenda Murphy3 said:🙂 nah dude, no no... stop lying to yourself... get it together for once, for God's sake...😁

You were the one who brought up the Finns as an example of a country that has "normal" relations with Russia... meanwhile, they're simultaneously rushing to join what that little fascist Vlad would call an "anti-Russian" alliance... so we were just having a little chat about what "normal" actually means in Russian... or maybe it's Mexican??

Mexico and Belarus are lacking freedom, and they've got a surplus of fascists running the show at the top... so yeah, they're short on some things and definitely overstocked on others...😁

Alright, let's go again... or is that all you've got before we just sit here waiting for the next idiot to step up to the plate...(ah... bliss...🍿 ).

Dammit, I literally wrote "they don't have any issues with Finland or Norway," so if you disagree, feel free to list exactly what problems they've had with Russia.

It seems reading comprehension isn't exactly your strong suit.
No worries, though—I'm sure the neighbor, or should I say brother, can step in and help you out.

Christian Torres3 said:You rarely run into this level of intellect or culture.👍

🤣😵
What an ingeniozan response from Roy—you know, that wannabe fighter pilot who’s basically a hybrid of Stephen Hawking, the Queen of England, and Erich Hartmann.

Anthony Taylor3 said:Dammit, I literally wrote "they don't have any issues with Finland or Norway," so if you disagree, feel free to list exactly what problems they've had with Russia.

It seems reading comprehension isn't exactly your strong suit.
No worries, though—I'm sure the neighbor, or should I say brother, can step in and help you out.

😁

So... you're still not backing down? Like I said—it's honestly no surprise the West just leads you guys along half-assed whenever they feel like it... has been happening for decades now...

Yeah, you used the word "literally," but if you were a little less literal and a little more smart, maybe you could actually answer why there's such a rush to join this "anti-Russian alliance" (to use the terminology from that little fascist gospel...).

Do you also jump into alliances aimed at targeting your neighbors even when you don't have problems with them? Pure Russian logic right there... isn't it?🤣🐔

Whatever... maybe so... I don't know exactly what the customs are in countries run by fascist thugs... like Russia or Mexico...😁 but hey, feel free to educate us all...

Anthony Taylor3 said:Perhaps it's worth looking at some actual facts?
There was gunfire during the Maidan protests, which naturally sparked demonstrations on both sides.
Then you had extremists setting fires in Odessa and shelling people in the Donbas. It also just so happened that the Ukrainian air force was dropping bombs on Donetsk, and even after the ceasefire, they kept shelling cities instead of honoring the Minsk agreements.
The OSCE reports back this up.

Oops, I forgot about the "Minsk agreements." But I guess you forgot about the Budapest Memorandum too... 🙂

Brenda Murphy3 said:Honestly, I feel like I bump into people like this on these boards pretty much all the time... they just pass the torch once someone gets exhausted or gets backed into a corner...😁

Hey, just wanted to say hi!

P.S.
Don't go thinking you can just boss anyone around or corner them like that—it really doesn't work that way, I guess.

Brenda Murphy3 said:😁

So... you're still not backing down? Like I said—it's honestly no surprise the West just leads you guys along half-assed whenever they feel like it... has been happening for decades now...

Yeah, you used the word "literally," but if you were a little less literal and a little more smart, maybe you could actually answer why there's such a rush to join this "anti-Russian alliance" (to use the terminology from that little fascist gospel...).

Do you also jump into alliances aimed at targeting your neighbors even when you don't have problems with them? Pure Russian logic right there... isn't it?🤣🐔

Whatever... maybe so... I don't know exactly what the customs are in countries run by fascist thugs... like Russia or Mexico...😁 but hey, feel free to educate us all...

Let me guess: you don't have an answer to a simple question, so you're playing dumb to make everyone forget what we were even talking about.
Running away so soon, are we?

And as for fascist thugs, you have plenty of those within the European Union.

Thomas Walker84 said:Oops, I forgot about the "Minsk agreements." But I guess you forgot about the Budapest Memorandum too... 🙂

What exactly did it state?

Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in The existing borders

Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan or Ukraine to influence their politics.

So, who was actually the first to disregard the agreement?

darkdriver said:Hey, just wanted to say hi!

P.S.
Don't go thinking you can just boss anyone around or corner them like that—it really doesn't work that way, I guess.

😁
And you certainly aren't one of them... you, Anthony Taylor3, and that whole crowd are way too chicken to even realize it when it finally happens...

Brenda Murphy3 said:😁
And you certainly aren't one of them... you, Anthony Taylor3, and that whole crowd are way too chicken to even realize it when it finally happens...

Look, we aren't even in the same room as you—we’re basically just the people bringing you your meals and checking in once in a while to see how you're doing in that padded cell of yours. So, I totally get why you're confused and under the impression that we're sharing this space with you or that you've somehow backed us into a corner.

Anthony Taylor3 said:What exactly did it state?

Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in The existing borders

Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan or Ukraine to influence their politics.

So, who was actually the first to disregard the agreement?

Back in 2005, Russia started playing those heavy-handed economic games with Ukraine, basically using gas supplies as a way to squeeze them. ☕

That’s pretty slick of you, pulling that specific paragraph about economic pressure out of thin air just to keep the momentum going. Nice move, though—keep it coming.

Anthony Taylor3 said:By that logic, I suppose you won't have any trouble listing all the SS divisions that are celebrated in those same countries.🙂

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTw2Eq9W...pg&name=medium

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...awmaker-a77867

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FURes8pX...jpg&name=small

https://twitter.com/WarAgainstPutin/...07552735522816

Here you go—have fun spotting all those Nazi symbols floating around in the regular Russian military.
And don't even get me started on Wagner...

Come on, give us more of that "what about the Ukrainian Nazis" routine.
Yeah, what about Azov?

darkdriver said:Look, we aren't even in the same room as you—we’re basically just the people bringing you your meals and checking in once in a while to see how you're doing in that padded cell of yours. So, I totally get why you're confused and under the impression that we're sharing this space with you or that you've somehow backed us into a corner.

😁 ok....

Dammit... some things just can't be fixed...

If it makes you feel better—go ahead and keep living in that fantasy...

It's the same way Russia imagines they aren't fascists and thinks they're still a superpower... or how various darkdrivers imagine the US and the European Union are falling apart and headed for total collapse... whatever helps you sleep at night...

I guess that's one way to handle it, right? 😒

Anthony Taylor3 said:What exactly did it state?

Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in The existing borders

Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan or Ukraine to influence their politics.

So, who was actually the first to disregard the agreement?

🤔

Well, 🤔 maybe the Ukrainians, since they attacked themselves? After taking Crimea and Donbas, and trying to occupy Kyiv.

(By the way, do you actually understand English?)

Brenda Murphy3 said:😁 ok....

Dammit... some things just can't be fixed...

If it makes you feel better—go ahead and keep living in that fantasy...

It's the same way Russia imagines they aren't fascists and thinks they're still a superpower... or how various darkdrivers imagine the US and the European Union are falling apart and headed for total collapse... whatever helps you sleep at night...

I guess that's one way to handle it, right? 😒

Look, if you actually quoted me for what you're accusing me of—like, saying Russia is a superpower (I mean, nukes aside, which is whatever, but conventionally they're a joke, which I think I already mentioned in another thread, but hey, people love to draw lines in the sand)—or saying the US and the EU are doomed, I’d probably just ban myself from this forum in a few months.
But let's stick to my actual quote instead of your weird interpretation of it.
Did I say Europe was going to be screwed?
Yeah, I did. And it wasn't just me—I was just passing along what people who actually know what's going on said, people who are way more informed than all of us combined on this forum.
The real tragedy here is that while everyone is rightfully calling out Russia and its mess, we've got this weird "Internet Soviet Union" forming on the web—specifically on this side of the Iron Curtain. It's full of people where if you write anything that doesn't fit the narrative—you know, the one where Ukrainians are basically at the gates of Vladivostok and Vladimir Putin is apparently dying for the 15th time in three months—they start lecturing you about the "deep consequences" of everything. Meanwhile, there are those who just want everyone to breathe in unison and stop asking uncomfortable questions, acting all righteous.
Seriously, don't screw with me.