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rowdytinker3 rowdytinker3 Member
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joined May 2023
#3961 ·
I honestly hope the EU cuts off all the funding to Mexico so they can just sit there and wait for Putin to come save their asses. I'm sure he's dying to hear more from Vučić. 🤣
Thomas Walker84 Thomas Walker84 Active Member
114 messages
joined Oct 2009
#3962 ·
Christian Torres3 said:Oh sure, Georgia started the war in Georgia, wunderbar

By that logic, the war in Ukraine was also started by Ukraine, and they're basically destroying their own cities. Those are just the basic facts of this whole situation...
silentnomad7 silentnomad7 Active Member
127 messages
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#3963 ·
urbanotter said:I mean, what else could he really say at this point, especially after Crimea became an official part of Russia and both Luhansk and Donbas were recognized as independent?

At least he’s being consistent, unlike those self-proclaimed "supporters" over in NATO and the US who seem to change their minds every five minutes depending on which way the wind blows.

It reminds me of how certain North American neighbors managed to secure incredibly favorable deals on Russian oil and gas, while we end up paying more than double just to maintain some sense of European unity.

Exactly. It seems there are some among you who would step over anyone to get cheaper fuel, but thankfully, most people still have their heads on straight.

As for the Mexicans, they basically got a classic stab in the back...
Anthony Taylor3 Anthony Taylor3 Member
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joined Feb 2006
#3964 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:Facts? 🤣

Buddy, you wouldn't recognize facts if they slapped you right in the face... just like the rest of this Putin-loving crowd here...

The territories you're talking about belong to the Russian Federation, sure, but every single one was taken by force. And in Chechnya, the Russians carried out actual genocide starting from the mid-40s onwards....

It doesn't matter right now, but you clearly have zero clue what you're talking about and you're just spewing propaganda pamphlets.

Look, the fact of the matter is that anyone who ever had to deal with that Russian trash from the government—they're running away from them faster than a plague... and for a huge chunk of them, especially those former Warsaw Pact countries, Russia is enemy number one and their biggest threat.

Dammit, people don't like that fascist stench wafting out of the White House that can be smelled from miles away... and even among those who support it. If people actually had free will—there practically isn't a single country that would agree to be stuck in the Russian sphere of influence. Not one... okay, maybe Mexico under Vučić's propaganda is questionable, but even you guys wouldn't choose Russia over the West—which is pretty obvious considering the migration patterns, isn't it?...

You really think that's an accident? 😁

So you agree that Chechnya and Dagestan are parts of the USA and that those are facts. 🙂

As for that fascist stench, it’s smelling quite strongly enough from the Baltic Sea states and Ukraine.
Anthony Taylor3 Anthony Taylor3 Member
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#3965 ·
Thomas Walker84 said:By that logic, the war in Ukraine was also started by Ukraine, and they're basically destroying their own cities. Those are just the basic facts of this whole situation...

Well, they’ve been shelling Donetsk for eight years straight, so your logic is flawless.
dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
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joined Dec 2007
#3966 ·
electricsurfer47 said:It’s great that you're being an optimist, but hey, maybe mention Africa as a potential market too? Since apparently, African Americans might finally need gas to heat their homes because they aren't quite happy with the outdoor temperature lately.

Sure, India is probably getting more gas now, but like... how much exactly??? And where would they even store it? They don't have the storage facilities or the infrastructure to actually pipe gas into people's homes. Plus, they don't even have a massive industrial base that demands that much supply right now.
If the Russians actually want to ramp up sales to India, they’d probably need to invest a ton of money into the country first just to build the stuff needed to make that happen.

Actually, India has a seriously powerhouse metallurgical industry—they're the second largest steel producer in the world, trailing only China. But their energy backbone is coal. The idea of them modernizing all those furnaces to run on gas? Yeah, I highly doubt it.
Gerald Torres84 Gerald Torres84 Active Member
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#3967 ·
Anthony Taylor3 said:Well, they’ve been shelling Donetsk for eight years straight, so your logic is flawless.

When you claim to be "dealing" in facts... let me guess, you think the war in America was started by Americans?
Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
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#3968 ·
Anthony Taylor3 said:So you agree that Chechnya and Dagestan are parts of the USA and that those are facts. 🙂

As for that fascist stench, it’s smelling quite strongly enough from the Baltic Sea states and Ukraine.

You really think so? 😁

Are you trying to tell me it's just some coincidence that nobody wants anything to do with them? Even Mexicans wouldn't bother moving to that backwater state...🤣

Look, man, the bottom line is that the Russian regime is straight-up fascist trash right now, and no sane person wants to deal with them. It's a fact that this country is hands-down one of the richest resource pits on the planet—I mean, you don't even need a brain, just grab it and sell it...—yet their quality of life is lower than any single member of the European Union... so how does that work? Seriously, how? 😁
The reality is that all their neighbors see them as nothing but a threat and a total joke...

Do you need more "facts," or is this enough for now?...

Honestly, I can tell you're just trolling, but sometimes it's actually fun to mess around with you guys for a bit... I'm betting you'll vanish for like two posts and then pop back up again after a while...

(And Putko isn't even allowed to glance toward the Baltic or NATO... even the Putin-lovers know that... damn. If it weren't for the nukes, there wouldn't have been Russians in Ukraine a long time ago...).

Whatever, man, you're rooting for a semi-fascist, backwards wasteland... the Russian regime is simply too pathetic to beat the West... they can't do it militarily, and they definitely can't do it economically...

Anyway, we'll just wait a few months and see how the whole mess looks then...😒
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#3969 ·
darkdriver said:Oh, I'll keep "painting," alright—but maybe save the homework for your kids... if you even have any, which, honestly, would be a tragedy for them.

You rarely run into this level of intellect or culture.👍
Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
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#3970 ·
Christian Torres3 said:You rarely run into this level of intellect or culture.👍

Honestly, I feel like I bump into people like this on these boards pretty much all the time... they just pass the torch once someone gets exhausted or gets backed into a corner...😁
Anthony Taylor3 Anthony Taylor3 Member
33 messages
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#3971 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:You really think so? 😁

Are you trying to tell me it's just some coincidence that nobody wants anything to do with them? Even Mexicans wouldn't bother moving to that backwater state...🤣

Look, man, the bottom line is that the Russian regime is straight-up fascist trash right now, and no sane person wants to deal with them. It's a fact that this country is hands-down one of the richest resource pits on the planet—I mean, you don't even need a brain, just grab it and sell it...—yet their quality of life is lower than any single member of the European Union... so how does that work? Seriously, how? 😁
The reality is that all their neighbors see them as nothing but a threat and a total joke...

Do you need more "facts," or is this enough for now?...

Honestly, I can tell you're just trolling, but sometimes it's actually fun to mess around with you guys for a bit... I'm betting you'll vanish for like two posts and then pop back up again after a while...

(And Putko isn't even allowed to glance toward the Baltic or NATO... even the Putin-lovers know that... damn. If it weren't for the nukes, there wouldn't have been Russians in Ukraine a long time ago...).

Whatever, man, you're rooting for a semi-fascist, backwards wasteland... the Russian regime is simply too pathetic to beat the West... they can't do it militarily, and they definitely can't do it economically...

Anyway, we'll just wait a few months and see how the whole mess looks then...😒

What do you mean they don't want to do business?
Half of the European Union does business with Russia; they buy their energy.
Poland was crying about what would happen to their apple exports when the Russians imposed sanctions.

If you're looking for fascist scum, you can find plenty within the European Union without having to travel all the way to Russia.

As for their neighbors, they maintain perfectly fine relations with Belarus, Kazakhstan, China, and Mongolia, and they have no issues with Finland or Norway.
One could argue they are only disliked by those nations where Nazi collaborators are treated as national heroes, and of course, Poland.
urbanotter urbanotter Regular
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#3972 ·
silentnomad7 said:Exactly. It seems there are some among you who would step over anyone to get cheaper fuel, but thankfully, most people still have their heads on straight.

As for the Mexicans, they basically got a classic stab in the back...


You're absolutely right,
some people really don't care about the hundreds of thousands of lives lost along the way.

Sources close to the situation say that Riyadh is now prepared to satisfy those interests and ramp up production to drive down oil prices from their current highs. They are reportedly ready to increase supply further if a crisis occurs, according to those sources.

This shift in policy from Riyadh happens to coincide perfectly with President Joe Biden's upcoming visit.

U.S. diplomats have been prepping for this first trip by Biden to Saudi Arabia for weeks now, hoping it might help ease the tensions caused by issues surrounding U.S. arms shipments, the war in Yemen, and the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
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#3973 ·
Anthony Taylor3 said:What do you mean they don't want to do business?
Half of the European Union does business with Russia; they buy their energy.
Poland was crying about what would happen to their apple exports when the Russians imposed sanctions.

If you're looking for fascist scum, you can find plenty within the European Union without having to travel all the way to Russia.

As for their neighbors, they maintain perfectly fine relations with Belarus, Kazakhstan, China, and Mongolia, and they have no issues with Finland or Norway.
One could argue they are only disliked by those nations where Nazi collaborators are treated as national heroes, and of course, Poland.

😁🤣

Zijev...

You’re showing that typical level of reasoning and logic that you only ever see from those die-hard supporters of the fascists over at the Kremlin...
I'm not talking about trading, genius. 🤣 Man, honestly? It’s not even surprising that the West is just flooring it and calling all the shots whenever they feel like it. They basically drive wherever they want, exactly how they want, and we're all just along for the ride.🤣It’s not even about the borders, really—it’s about those political and military alliances. I mean, look at Norway or Finland. Are we talking about the countries that are actually joining this anti-Russian military alliance (or whatever "anti-Russian" nonsense Putko calls it)? And yet, somehow, Russia doesn't seem to have any issues with them? Honestly, damn it, I can see how from the Russian perspective, that might actually pass for a "normal" relationship...

So you're actually trying to tell me that every single Western democracy is just a bunch of fascist collaborators? Fine, whatever, if that's what you really think... go ahead.😁

A little weird logic there, but whatever, I guess it works...

Look, fascist scum exists everywhere, there's no denying that. But let's be real—you won't find them holding the reins of power anywhere in the European Union quite like they do over in Russia.😉

Look, you just have to face the facts: you guys are simply too terrified to actually win. That’s just how it is. And honestly? It’s not some new thing either—it’s been this way for decades, and frankly, it’s clearly going to stay that way. You’re living proof of it right there.🍿
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#3974 ·
urbanotter said:You're absolutely right,
some people really don't care about the hundreds of thousands of lives lost along the way.

Sources close to the situation say that Riyadh is now prepared to satisfy those interests and ramp up production to drive down oil prices from their current highs. They are reportedly ready to increase supply further if a crisis occurs, according to those sources.

This shift in policy from Riyadh happens to coincide perfectly with President Joe Biden's upcoming visit.

U.S. diplomats have been prepping for this first trip by Biden to Saudi Arabia for weeks now, hoping it might help ease the tensions caused by issues surrounding U.S. arms shipments, the war in Yemen, and the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

Wat abooot the US….
Anthony Taylor3 Anthony Taylor3 Member
33 messages
joined Feb 2006
#3975 ·
Brenda Murphy3 As stated by:
😁🤣

It seems we're starting with a yawn.

You’re displaying the typical level of logic one expects from those cheering on the Kremlin's fascists.
I’m not talking about trading, genius. 🤣 It’s hardly surprising that the West is charging ahead at full throttle, dictating terms however they see fit.🤣It’s less about individual nations and more about political and military alliances. Take Norway or Finland, for instance. Are those the countries joining this anti-Russian military bloc—or what Putin likes to call it? Apparently, Russia doesn't see much of an issue with them. Honestly, from a Russian perspective, I suppose that could be viewed as a perfectly "normal" relationship.

So, you're suggesting that every single Western democracy is just a collection of fascist collaborators? If that's your stance, fine.😁

A bit of a strange logic, but fair enough.

Fascist scum exists everywhere, but you won't find them holding the reins of power quite like they do in Russia.😉

Look, you just have to face facts: you're simply too intimidated to actually win. It’s a pattern that’s been playing out for decades, and frankly, it shows no signs of changing. You are the living embodiment of that reality.🍿

Look, it’s hardly my fault you can't articulate a coherent thought. Belarus wants to do business with Russia, plain and simple. Then you have places like Canada and Mexico, which haven't quite succumbed to that infectious strain of Russophobia just yet.
When it comes to fascist nonsense, just look at those Baltic republics where they actually celebrate SS divisions. We could also take a long look at Ukraine and their tendency to honor SS members and Nazi collaborators.
Just the facts, for crying out loud.

What kind of friction have Norway and Finland actually had with Russia over the last three decades? Honestly, none. So my point stands, whether you like it or not.

Back to the facts, then.
Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
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#3976 ·
Anthony Taylor3 said:
Brenda Murphy3 As stated by:
😁🤣

It seems we're starting with a yawn.

You’re displaying the typical level of logic one expects from those cheering on the Kremlin's fascists.
I’m not talking about trading, genius. 🤣 It’s hardly surprising that the West is charging ahead at full throttle, dictating terms however they see fit.🤣It’s less about individual nations and more about political and military alliances. Take Norway or Finland, for instance. Are those the countries joining this anti-Russian military bloc—or what Putin likes to call it? Apparently, Russia doesn't see much of an issue with them. Honestly, from a Russian perspective, I suppose that could be viewed as a perfectly "normal" relationship.

So, you're suggesting that every single Western democracy is just a collection of fascist collaborators? If that's your stance, fine.😁

A bit of a strange logic, but fair enough.

Fascist scum exists everywhere, but you won't find them holding the reins of power quite like they do in Russia.😉

Look, you just have to face facts: you're simply too intimidated to actually win. It’s a pattern that’s been playing out for decades, and frankly, it shows no signs of changing. You are the living embodiment of that reality.🍿

Look, it’s hardly my fault you can't articulate a coherent thought. Belarus wants to do business with Russia, plain and simple. Then you have places like Canada and Mexico, which haven't quite succumbed to that infectious strain of Russophobia just yet.
When it comes to fascist nonsense, just look at those Baltic republics where they actually celebrate SS divisions. We could also take a long look at Ukraine and their tendency to honor SS members and Nazi collaborators.
Just the facts, for crying out loud.

What kind of friction have Norway and Finland actually had with Russia over the last three decades? Honestly, none. So my point stands, whether you like it or not.

Back to the facts, then.

It’s not my ability to express myself that’s the issue, it’s your ability to comprehend... you get me? No? Alright then...😁

You're from Mexico, right? It’s pretty ironic that you’re lecturing me about fascist scum when you come from a country where that kind of crowd wins elections regularly😁.

And clearly, the Norwegians and Finns aren't exactly on your side... I mean, you've got Finns joining up in these anti-Russian alliances... but what do they actually know? Just look at their countries and their societies... no order, no prosperity... nothing even close to the Russian ideal🤣🤣

I'm telling you, you guys are terrified, and every single post you make just proves my point... unless you want to admit I'm right?

(Belarus? Mexico? Is that really the best examples you can pull up? Are you trying to build an argument for me or for yourself?🤣 Seems like you're a little confused here... buddy...)
Arthur Watson4 Arthur Watson4 Active Member
135 messages
joined Feb 2022
#3977 ·
Belarus, Mexico, and Eritrea, please.
Anthony Taylor3 Anthony Taylor3 Member
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joined Feb 2006
#3978 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:It’s not my ability to express myself that’s the issue, it’s your ability to comprehend... you get me? No? Alright then...😁

You're from Mexico, right? It’s pretty ironic that you’re lecturing me about fascist scum when you come from a country where that kind of crowd wins elections regularly😁.

And clearly, the Norwegians and Finns aren't exactly on your side... I mean, you've got Finns joining up in these anti-Russian alliances... but what do they actually know? Just look at their countries and their societies... no order, no prosperity... nothing even close to the Russian ideal🤣🤣

I'm telling you, you guys are terrified, and every single post you make just proves my point... unless you want to admit I'm right?

(Belarus? Mexico? Is that really the best examples you can pull up? Are you trying to build an argument for me or for yourself?🤣 Seems like you're a little confused here... buddy...)

No, the problem lies in your delivery. You lack precision, and perhaps you should focus on that.

As for Mexico, as far as I am aware, they don't hold parades celebrating SS Divisions there; those are European values, after all.

And again, what actual problems have Norway and Finland had with Russia over the last thirty years?
Gerald Torres84 Gerald Torres84 Active Member
118 messages
joined Oct 2015
#3979 ·
Arthur Watson4 said:Belarus, Mexico, and Eritrea, please.

You might as well throw North Korea into the mix too.
Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
361 messages
joined Mar 2023
#3980 ·
Anthony Taylor3 said:No, the problem lies in your delivery. You lack precision, and perhaps you should focus on that.

As for Mexico, as far as I am aware, they don't hold parades celebrating SS Divisions there; those are European values, after all.

And again, what actual problems have Norway and Finland had with Russia over the last thirty years?

Aha...😒

Regarding Mexico—I was being crystal clear—even for someone at a Putinophile level... did you just not get it?😁

Look, go ask the Finns what kind of issues they're facing that drive them into this anti-Russian alliance. Or maybe they’re just crazy and brainwashed by propaganda... I mean, it's a society deeply gripped by paranoia from state-run media. It's nothing like a place like Mexico or Belarus (..my bad—and Eritrea too..😁 ).

Since you're clearly struggling with basic comprehension, I suggest reading this post a few more times... and when you think you're ready to reply—don't!! Just go back a few posts and read those first. Got it?

So yeah... just doing a little bit of community service by educating these Putinophile idiots... thanks.🍿

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