I’m proposing that we require an absolute majority for any poll winner. If nobody hits that mark, the top two contenders should head straight into a runoff. Or does anyone have a better suggestion!? Get those entries in quickly; the deadline is looming! 😁
Edward Howard2 said:Well, here's the kicker: from what I can see, he's the one running this whole election, and now suddenly he's in a massive rush. It’s funny because he previously said there was zero hurry. He's basically got just two candidates to choose from, and he's the only one who hasn't stuck to his word—to be fair, he did say every candidate should draft their own set of rules. But one of these two candidacies is just a total copy-paste of the current rules, which he hasn't even bothered to touch... so yeah, more problems there. It looks like a straight-up conflict of interest... wouldn't you say?
It isn't a "conflict of interest." The truth is simpler: I am trying every possible avenue to reclaim my position as director, even if I have to resort to being a bit underhanded to get there. Don't forget that serving as the director for this championship is one of the greatest achievements of my life, so letting go of it isn't easy for me. Unfortunately, I have you—the only person who actually saw through my act—and now I'm at a loss! Hmm, maybe I should look into having someone like you disqualified from the selection process for director as well! 😁
The deadline is looming... We’re going to be scrubbing any incomplete applications from the survey—that means if you have a leader without clear rules, or rules without a leader, you’re out. So, get your act together, finalize those details, submit your candidacy, and for heaven's sake, hurry up! 😁
And as for everything else... man, I truly mourn the era of Hakkinen, Schumacher, Irvine, Frentzen, Villeneuve... these modern-day lightweight kids aren't driving a MAN'S sport! 🙄
Man, what I miss most today is exactly him!!! Jacques!!! I can't find anyone in today's lineup who even comes close to his level; he was simply one of a kind. 😁
It’s time to finally wrap this selection process up. I am setting a hard deadline for all survey submissions: October 14, 2012, at 08:00—right when the South Korean Grand Prix gets underway. Please let me know if you need to make any adjustments to your current entries, or if you’d like to step up as a new candidate with your own set of rules. 😁
Jason Campbell70 said:What would you say is the single most important change compared to the current rulebook?
Well, you’ve already pointed out the biggest one yourself! Look, my point wasn't that the current regulations are fundamentally broken; rather, I believe certain details just need to be simplified or clarified. I think we should stick to the core concept of the rules, though we could potentially overhaul the scoring system or how we handle forecasting. I haven't proposed anything radical here, but other candidates certainly have! That said, I am more than willing to refine the rules if it becomes necessary. As the current commissioner, I feel far too much sweat and effort went into crafting our existing framework to just toss it all in the trash. If we don't go with a new set of rules, I am perfectly prepared to continue running the championship under the current ones. 😁
Jason Campbell70 said:To keep things brief: -we've cut out the podium predictions and made a few minor tweaks to how points are awarded -increased the number of jokers available -moved the deadline for submitting predictions
Just some cosmetic updates to the MAXYMMov rulebook. 🤷
Oh... anything else important?
Well, what's actually important is that you managed to spin such a tall tale! 😁
RULEBOOK - Part 2 8. If a competitor fails to submit a new prediction or submits one after the deadline has passed, the "joker" will be activated. To be clear, players are required to submit a new prediction for every single race; however, they are granted 5 "jokers" per season. These will trigger automatically for any race where a new prediction isn't received, meaning their last officially submitted prediction will be used for those races. Once all "jokers" have been exhausted, the player is considered to have dropped out of the competition. Consequently, they will be disqualified from every subsequent race and receive no points; if they wish to rejoin the fray, they must submit a new prediction to stay in the game. Furthermore, if a competitor fails to submit a prediction for three consecutive races, their teammate has the right—if they so choose—to kick them out of the team. In such a case, that competitor becomes a free agent and is removed from the team standings, unless they explicitly state otherwise and join a different squad. It is absolutely vital that all team decisions and transfers are announced clearly and promptly, specifically before the deadline for the upcoming race.
9. A competitor may only post their predictions using the specific username they used to register for the competition, unless that name has been modified by an admin for administrative reasons. Accordingly, a banned competitor participates passively, effectively treated the same as someone who simply hasn't logged onto the forum for a set period.
10. Competitors are free to move between teams without limit. However, during a transfer, a competitor does not carry over any team points earned with their previous squad; individual points remain theirs. This also applies to players who have been kicked out. Team points begin accumulating from the moment a new team is formed, though changing a team's name has no impact on point totals. Each team is entitled to one name change during the season, whereas names can be changed indefinitely prior to the start of the season. Just as noted in section 8 of this rulebook, it is critical that all team arrangements and transfers are announced clearly and in a timely manner, specifically before the deadline for the next race.
11. If a competitor predicts a driver who does not actually participate in the race—meaning they do not appear on the official FIA results—they will receive no points for that driver. Additionally, no points will be awarded for drivers that the competitor fails to include in their ranking, regardless of whether it seems logical or not that a certain driver was omitted. Results are calculated strictly based on the positions assigned by the competitor next to the drivers. If there is a typo in the numbers, the ranking will be processed exactly as written; if certain positions are left blank, no points will be awarded for them. If a competitor lists a specific position number or driver more than once, they will receive no points for any of those duplicate entries. If a competitor lists more drivers than are scheduled to start the race under normal circumstances, they won't earn points for the excess positions or drivers. Drivers without an assigned position are treated as a DNF, and if the entire ranking is submitted without position numbers, it will be treated as a ranking with no DNFs.
12. Deliberately copying someone else's prediction—regardless of whether a "correct" prediction is submitted later—will be viewed as an attempt to incite general chaos within the competition and will result in an automatic disqualification lasting two races or more. This rule primarily targets the intentional copy-pasting of another person's picks or submitting an extremely similar entry. This clause of the rulebook will only be reviewed upon the formal request of the person who believes their prediction was stolen.
13. Competition results are calculated based on the results released by the FIA immediately following the conclusion of the race via television broadcast or the first unofficial unconfirmed results posted on the official website. Any subsequent corrections made by the FIA will not be taken into account. When determining driver retirements, Additionally, we rely on the initial results published by the FIA. These official records specify exactly which drivers dropped out, categorizing them as DNF, NC, Ret, or . The standings on the official website follow this same logic, and that is how all results are calculated. To be clear, according to the FIA rulebook, a driver is considered to have retired from the race if they complete less than 90% of the total race distance. Furthermore, the race consists of however many laps the FIA dictates, whether through their standard protocol or via an extraordinary decision. Drivers who fail to make the cut during qualifying and subsequently do not participate in the race will be recorded as DNS, provided they don't actually take the start. However, if they fail to qualify but the FIA grants them permission to compete anyway, they won't receive points if they were listed as DNS in the prediction; instead, they will be treated
just like any other driver who qualified normally. This means they have the same opportunity to finish in a scoring position or to fail to finish (DNF).
14. Should a controversial situation arise during the competition that isn't covered by these specific points in the rulebook, or if the rules are simply too vague to address the issue, the Race Director will make the final call regarding how to resolve it. This rulebook takes effect upon its posting in the Championship thread dedicated to rules and results, and it may be amended or supplemented only if it becomes absolutely necessary for the smooth operation of the competition as the season progresses.
15. If the moderators of this sub-forum feel that the Race Director has made an unsound decision regarding a dispute, a prediction correction, or any amendments to the rulebook, they reserve the right to overturn it. They do this by putting the matter to a vote among all F1 sub-forum moderators, where a decision is reached by a majority vote.
16. Guided by a sense of integrity, the Race Director should not vacate their position without good cause, unless a majority of the active participants in the championship demand it. Furthermore, the Director is morally obligated to conduct the competition fairly. If necessary, the Director may enlist the help of one of the competitors to assist in managing the proceedings to ensure everything functions optimally.
The Rulebook - Part 1 The Forum.hr F1 championship is an open-entry competition where players and teams can sign up at any point throughout the entire season. If you want to be officially considered a part of this squad, there’s one non-negotiable rule: you have to submit a post explicitly stating which team you are representing. No exceptions. You can't just jump into an existing team whenever you feel like it. To sign up, you need to get the green light from at least one player who was part of that team last season. No exceptions. The competition is structured around two-driver teams, where both individual standings and the team championship are tracked separately. If you don't sign up to be part of the squad, don't expect to see your name on the scoreboard when it comes to the team standings. It's that simple. To be officially considered a participant, you have to actually sign up for the competition and make sure your prediction is submitted within the designated timeframe. No exceptions. The official results and standings are issued directly by the director, and once the moderator posts them on the first page of this thread, they are considered final. Listen, let me make this crystal clear so there’s no confusion later: all competitors must submit their predictions, entries, and everything else exclusively within this specific thread to be part of the championship. If you try to send your picks or sign up in any other thread, they won't count. Period. No exceptions. Stick to this topic if you want to actually stay in the game.
The championship operates under a strict set of rules: participants must submit their predicted finishing order for the entire grid, along with their pick for the fastest lap, within the designated window. You can post your predictions as soon as the previous deadline passes, but you absolutely cannot miss the final cutoff, which is exactly ten minutes before lights out. This deadline remains constant for every single race in the season. To be clear, if a race is scheduled for 2:00 PM and you get your prediction in at 1:50 PM, you’re good to go for that race. However, if you try to submit it at 1:51 PM or any time after that, it won't count for the current race—it will be applied to the following one instead.
Anyone looking to submit their predictions can tweak them or send in entirely new ones as many times as they want right up until the deadline hits. Just keep in mind that only the very last version you submit will be the one that actually counts.
3. Here is how the points system breaks down: The main points for each race are awarded according to the current Formula 1 scoring system: 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1, with the top ten finishers collecting the most points based on their performance in the race. The points system for each race is broken down as follows: Groups 1 through 3 – 5 points plus an extra 1. Group 4-10 – 3 points + 1 Group 11-16 – 2 points + 2 Group 17-24 – 1 point + 2 DNS group – 3 points DNS group - 3 points Fastest lap earns 5 points.
Points are distributed according to the specific groupings outlined in Section 3 of the rulebook. As for those extra points awarded for hitting exact positions, they are split into two distinct categories: Group 1 scoring rules: 1 point awarded for positions 1 through 3, and 1 point for positions 4 through 10. Group 2: Positions 11-16 and 17-24 earn 2 points each. Extra points won't be awarded to any of the other groups.
5. Here is how the race standings are determined: A player who racks up more secondary points is clearly the superior competitor. In the event that we end up with a tie following scenario A, the deciding factor should clearly go to the player who hit more exact positions. In the event of a tie following step B, the tiebreaker should go to the player who managed to secure more additional points. In the event that we hit a tie after step C, the tiebreaker should clearly favor the player who secured more first-place finishes. It’s the only logical way to reward peak performance. In the event of a tie following step D, the deciding factor should be the player with the higher combined score from the 1st and 2nd place finishes. From there, you just keep working backward—looking at the top three, then four, and so on. It’s the only logical way to break a deadlock. In the event of a tie following step E, the win goes to the player who submitted their prediction first—regardless of how long ago that entry was actually placed.
The criteria used to determine the final individual standings are as follows: It’s pretty simple to me: the superior competitor is the one who racks up more primary points. At the end of the day, that's what actually matters. In the event that we end up with a tie after step A, my position remains firm: the driver with more wins should take the title. It’s only logical. In the event that we hit a tie after applying the second rule, the tiebreaker should favor the driver with the higher number of secondary points. If we end up in a tie after stage C, the decision should obviously go to whichever competitor has the upper hand in their head-to-head matchup. It’s common sense—you look at how they’ve performed against one another, not just their isolated stats. In the event that we end up with a tie after step D, the tiebreaker should favor the competitor with more high-level finishes—specifically, whoever has secured more second-place spots, third-place spots, and so on.
6.2. The criteria used to determine the final standings for the overall team championship are as follows: It’s pretty simple math: the superior team is the one that walks away with more primary points. In the event that we end up with a tie after step A, the deciding factor should obviously go to whichever team secured more wins. It’s the only logical way to break it. In the event that we end up with a tie after step B, the tiebreaker should go to whichever team holds more secondary points. In the event of a tie following step C, the deciding factor shifts to which team holds more high-place finishes—specifically looking at who secured more second-place spots, third-place spots, and so on.
7. If another team joins Formula 1 either before or during the season, bumping the total driver count up to 26, this will only affect the 17-24 bracket, which would then shift to 17-26. Conversely, if the number of teams drops and the driver count falls to 22, the 17-24 group becomes 17-22. Any adjustments to the scoring groups based on this article take effect automatically—no prior notice required—the moment the FIA or a team officially announces they are joining or withdrawing from one or all Formula 1 races. This also applies if the decision is announced before free practice and the team fails to show up for Friday's sessions. Note that this article and its subsequent changes won't be triggered if a team or driver misses practice, qualifying, or the race due to other unforeseen circumstances (like a shortage of spare parts or driver injuries).
Jason Campbell70 said:That’s where I’ve been from the start.
Move the championships to some neutral ground. An American Predict tool? Perfect.
Hold on a second—I was under the impression that stormybadger8 was suggesting we just mirror the rules from Predict, not actually relocate the whole operation over there.🤷 Come on, they aren't actually going to cancel every single race, are they? 😁
- Post-race penalties determined by the FIA are factored in. - You aren't guessing specific finishing orders; you just need to pick who makes the podium or hits the top 10, regardless of their exact rank.
Duels
- No later than 7 days before a race, the previous round's winner must set 10 duels for the upcoming round. - A single driver can be involved in a maximum of 3 duels. - If both drivers DNF, the duel is canceled.
Box
- Each player is allowed a maximum of 3 "Box" entries before the race starts. - During a single Box entry, you can make up to 2 changes to your prediction. - Using a Box entry automatically deducts one point from your total score.
Setting Pairs
- Setting pairs for a race is open from the start of the Grand Prix weekend (Monday) until 5 minutes before lights out. - In the event of a tie in total points, priority goes to those who set their pairs earlier and they take the higher position. Scoring Rules:
- Follows the standard Formula 1 logic (25-18-15-12...). - Tiebreakers are decided by counting most wins, then second places, third places, etc. - Teams with a maximum of 2 members are scored just like in Formula 1.
Sanctions
- Dropping out of the competition (missing 2 races) mid-season without a valid reason results in disqualification and being blacklisted, which prevents participation in any other competitions on this subforum.
- Any attempts at cheating will result in a 10-point deduction from that round's total. If repeated twice, the user is disqualified and faces the same sanctions as someone dropping out mid-season (see above).
Competition Topics
- I think the official thread should only be used for predictions and Box entries so everything stays organized in one spot. For all discussions, let's just open a separate chat topic.
So, there it is. Hopefully, I haven't missed anything; if it's too simple, I can easily fix it.😉
Then everyone else picks who they think will come out on top in their prediction using a 1 or 2 tag just like at a sportsbook. .. As I mentioned before, if both drivers DNF, the pair is canceled, and the person setting them can have at most three drivers from the grid in their matchups...
Anything else I need to clear up, or am I missing something?🤔🤷
I still don't get it—what do these pairings have to do with the scoring system mentioned above? 😁
What exactly is unclear? I honestly can't tell what you're asking or what you think is wrong here.🤷
Look, you really need to provide a much more detailed breakdown of how your competition profile works. Up until this point in the championship, there hasn't been any mention of setting pairs or Duels like the ones described in your rulebook, so you definitely need to clarify that in the rules. 😁
Terry Carter2 said:Let me clarify my own position here! I believe the championship should maintain a core structure similar to the actual Formula 1 season. We should stick to teams consisting of two drivers, the standard scoring system of 25, 18, 15..., and so on. If we don't, we'll just end up creating a completely different type of competition that doesn't even deserve to carry the title of "Championship." While that isn't an impossible outcome, I still say...
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If we go by Ethan Jones5's rules, I'd also suggest that the Championship shouldn't have any Duels—meaning no time-sensitive multi-stage participation during a GP weekend, and no depending on whether other participants show up. That would basically turn it into a tournament or a Super League. To me, the Championship works exactly how it currently stands because participating is so straightforward! That is to say, I don't have to wait on anyone else's offer or worry about setting pairs on time, nor do I need to pester the moderators before a race starts. You simply have a deadline to submit your prediction, and that's it. In my opinion, the Championship ought to stick to this method of setting entries. 😁
William Bennett53 said:That is certainly a valid point; having a steady, reliable host would be a significant asset to us. However, establishing a solid set of rules before the season kicks off is absolutely imperative. Without that foundation, endless arguments are virtually guaranteed. In my view, we need a clear, straightforward rulebook, along with a strict prohibition on debating those rules or their enforcement within the main threads. If necessary, we could always open a dedicated thread specifically for grievances regarding the rules and their application—much like how we currently have this specific thread for selecting a host, which avoids cluttering the active competition. This way, such debates don't devolve into endless trolling cycles that only serve to exhaust those who aren't interested in the drama or aren't even participating in the game.
Sean Smith5 said:All I really care about is whether one of the candidates will actually commit to seeing the entire championship through. Everything else is secondary. It’s easy enough to agree on the rules and fine-tune them as we go, provided we have one consistent host. I'd much rather deal with rule adjustments than having more different hosts throughout the season than actual competitors. 🙂
I honestly think anyone could make that promise—which is really just a fancy way of saying nobody can truly guarantee it. The conclusion of the ESPN F1 Championship 2013 isn't for another year, and if history has taught us anything, it's that plenty of people join this league with the sole intention of ousting the current host. It makes any kind of guarantee feel pretty hollow. As the old saying goes: "Who knows what's coming?" 😁
Rules are simple, pick 10 drivers you think will finish the race in the points and place them in the order of which you think they will finish. points are awarded according to the difference between your selection and the race result, providing the selected driver's score in points. o Picking driver in correct place earns 25 points. o One place out earns 18 points. o Two place out earns 15 points. o Three places out earns 12 points. o Four places out earns 10 points. o Five places out earns 8 points. o Six places out earns 6 points. o Seven places out earns 4 point. o Eight places out earns 2 points. o Nine places out earns 1 point. Maximum points per race is 250.
Example for the 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix:
Tip / Result: Points
1: Sebastian Vettel / 2nd: 18 points 2: Lewis Hamilton / ret: 0 points 3: Mark Webber / 1st: 15 points 4: Jenson Button / 3rd: 18 points 5: Kamui Kobayashi/ 9th: 10 points 6: Michael Schumacher / 15th: 0 points 7: Nico Rosberg/ 7th: 25 points 8: Buemi / 12th: 0 points 9: Fernando Alonso / 4th: 8 points 10: Vitaly Petrov / 10th: 25 points
Therefore my overall score for Brazil would be: 134 points
The person who has the most points by the end of the season wins the championship.
Your picks must be entered before Friday Practice 1 and can be changed any time before the session starts (just be sure to let me know). Any late picks will incur a penalty depending on how many sessions have passed. -15 points for FP1 -18 points for FP2 -25 points for SP1 -DSQ for Qual
Clever scoring system, actually quite interesting.😁 Really like the part about the practice sessions...
I’m on board with this too. Honestly, maybe we shouldn't try to reinvent the wheel every single time; sometimes just copying a proven scoring system works perfectly fine. 😁
Terry Carter2 said:Actually, there aren't any! Maybe it’s high time for some revolutionary changes! That’s exactly why we have a poll up—so we can vote on the rules and choose the host that actually suits us best. 😁
Let me clarify my own position here! I believe the championship should maintain a core structure similar to the actual Formula 1 season. We should stick to teams consisting of two drivers, the standard scoring system of 25, 18, 15..., and so on. If we don't, we'll just end up creating a completely different type of competition that doesn't even deserve to carry the title of "Championship." While that isn't an impossible outcome, I still say...
Ethan Jones5 said:Let me just ask so I don't waste my own time..
Eli, does this championship have specific rules, or can I make up whatever I want if I decide to host it?
Also, on a side note, why are there three different competitions listed here on this subforum?
Look, I want to get this running, but from what I can see, none of them are actually working right now. Regardless, just give me an answer to my first question..
Actually, there aren't any! Maybe it’s high time for some revolutionary changes! That’s exactly why we have a poll up—so we can vote on the rules and choose the host that actually suits us best. 😁
It makes zero sense to let our time slip away while this topic keeps sinking lower in the rankings. We need to wrap up the registration phase and finalize the rule proposals so we can finally move on to the final vote. There is absolutely no reason to wait until the end of the season; if we do that, half of you will have already moved on to other PDFs anyway. I am actually planning some cosmetic tweaks to the rules myself, which I’ll be presenting to you shortly. We will define the final deadline for entries soon, so if you’re interested, you better hurry up. 😁