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What kind of sports arena are we even talking about here? What's the actual programming?
Look, wherever you're planning to pull this off, you first have to figure out if there’s actually any demand or interest from the local community.
On top of that, you need to map out the whole financial structure, get everything down on paper, and build a proper cash flow projection😁.
You can't just walk in there throwing around empty phrases like "affordable prices." You have to hit your ROI, and that depends entirely on how you're funding the thing.
Fine, let's say you're loaded and don't care about the initial startup costs—you still have to account for depreciation and long-term profitability.
I really hope you actually have a plan: I'm talking content strategy, a weekly schedule, and a full budget breakdown. What do you expect people to answer when you haven't even come close to explaining what this project actually is or what it's going to offer.
hiddenhawk3 said:this hits different since depression is probably going to be the biggest issue of the 21st century😁
Well, look, what can I even say? I’ve been sentenced to community service. 🤣
Look, here’s the reality: depression basically boils down to two main causes. And honestly? You can fix both of them without touching a single pill—as long as you're willing to do a little bit of mental reprogramming.
Hey, let's not spam silentpilot6's thread. 🙂.
If I had a choice, I wouldn't be with someone when I know they're dealing with a disease like that.
Honestly, that kind of thing just isn't an attraction for me. Even people with much smaller issues—like anxiety or depression—don't really do it for me 😁 . As soon as I saw the first red flags, I’d shut down. Period.
Now, if we're talking about someone who has a family history of it but isn't showing any symptoms themselves? I don't know. I honestly don't have an answer for that one.
As a friend, though? No issue either way.👍
"In love and spirituality, there are no strangers and no boundaries.
Everyone belongs to the family.
We are all just one big human family."
O' Sensei Morihei Ueshiba
The silence that speaks 🙂
TND isn't some "romantic" journey, and it sure as hell isn't mystical like people try to make it out to be. Honestly? Once you actually get through it, all that flowery, romanticized nonsense about God, the world, love, or even TND itself just falls apart. It’s not what they tell you.
Even suffering isn't this "romanticized." This state? It’s indescribable. There are no words for it, no emotions to grab onto—nothing. You can't just take TND and pour it onto paper. And you certainly can't explain it to someone who hasn't lived it. The tools people usually try to use to describe TND? They just don't exist there. There's simply nothing to work with.
Either you're just spinning theories about causes and effects from some intellectual standpoint, or you're just daydreaming about how things might play out. That's all there is to it.
It’s honestly impossible to explain to people who haven't been through it. It looks totally bizarre from the outside, sure. But once you're in it? It wipes the slate clean. Everything you thought you knew, everything you ever learned or understood—it all just gets erased. Every single bit of it.
There’s nothing left to "catch," Bruna. 😉.
Instead of having this grand epiphany where you suddenly realize it's God this or that—or even that we *are* God—man just ends up realizing that a God like that... well, he doesn't actually exist. 🙂
Most of what people are describing in this thread isn't even TND. It’s just... something else entirely. Existential identity crises. Total mess. There are certain people who just get hit from time to time—people whose connections, no matter how emotionally intense, ecstatic, or even "real" they feel, have absolutely nothing to do with TND. 😉
And even after TND, they happen with the exact same level of intensity.
Nothing about a person's core personality ever actually changes. Not fundamentally. Not even close.
And just like that, everything’s changing again. 🤷
TND isn't some solo act, even if it plays out on an individual level.
Look, honestly? On an individual level, the biggest shift you can ever experience is when you finally stop philosophizing about life and actually start living it. 🙂
He’s literally just grabbing hold of his own destiny and letting Life take the wheel without overthinking it.
He starts actually valuing all those things he used to dismiss—his life, the circumstances he was born into—and finally just accepts his fate, no matter how messy it is.
He accepts his existence. He accepts matter—because let’s be real, matter is nothing more than spirit made flesh. He accepts the worldly stuff, the obligations, his parents, his relatives, his roots, the whole world.
He just takes it all in—no questions asked. And when I say everything, I mean *everything*. He accepts his emotions, his sins, his reactions, his lack of reaction, the "good" stuff, the "bad" stuff, his entire character, and both the material and spiritual sides of life. Just total acceptance.
They accept their life exactly as it is, with actual, deep gratitude. They act on that truth instead of wasting time "dreaming" about being someone they aren't. 🙂
You just eventually realize that no matter how hard you try—throwing yourself into philosophy, intellectualizing everything, digging through theories trying to "find yourself" or hunt down some grand purpose—it’s never going to happen. It's a dead end.
And most importantly? He doesn't even actually need it.
And even more importantly—if you want to be technical about it—that thing doesn't even actually exist. 🙂
There aren't any consciousness explosions happening here. No grand initiations, no blinding lights—though, honestly, they could happen if that’s how a person's specific destiny plays out.
Every single destiny is magnificent exactly as it is. Love doesn't make the difference—people do. 😉
In other words, all those sensations—no matter how intense they feel—don't actually matter. They aren't decisive. And they certainly aren't "proof" of TND.
Some people just use this stuff as an excuse to write a flashy little book about their "spiritual journey" and call it a day. That's it. Nothing more.
Sometimes those "sensations" people claim to feel aren't some profound spiritual breakthrough—they're just proof of a fractured mind lost in its own delusions, not TND.
The same goes for emotions, ecstasies, or any of those states—none of that has anything to do with TND, or God, or love. Period. Basically, someone who’s more passionate, more emotional, or more "visual" isn't any "better" than someone who isn't. They just experience things differently, even though those experiences have zero connection to the actual truth.
And vice versa.
TND works through entirely different mechanisms. It’s more like... how should I put this? It’s the result of accumulated "individual destinies." It’s the manifestation of a love that demands every single being in the chain be accepted within their community. This drive of love—which essentially "wants" everyone under the sun to be included—will "break" against an individual destiny without giving a damn about what that person's specific state of spirit actually is.
That’s how Jesus and other "individuals" came to be. At some point, they took upon themselves the "denial and suppression of certain community members" and offered up their "own sacrifice" to redeem "others' sins"—meaning the sins of their fathers, the outcasts everyone else was too quiet about, judged, or kicked out of the fold.
Take a look at everyday life. It happens constantly on a micro level, like in a family, where suicide can actually be an act of true love (even if our warped, romanticized idea of love makes that almost impossible to grasp). It happens through an individual who makes space so that the outcasts can finally be accepted by the whole family unit. Often, the person committing suicide isn't even aware of what they're doing or which "rejected one" they are redeeming—and the family isn't aware either.
So, yeah. That's my two cents. Even if I wanted to, I couldn't write more than this.
Oh, and another thing—something like TND doesn't happen because someone wants it to or aims for it. It’s not accidental, either.
Individuality and personality don't play a role in this at all—that's just the way the order of things is.
On an individual level, TND isn't some kind of exclusivity. It’s just the "result" of a situation where a certain "circle" failed to achieve total assimilation and acceptance of individuals and their—let's call them—"sins." And that’s the one thing love won't tolerate: rejection and differentiation.
Love doesn't pick its methods for restoring a broken "balance," no matter how brutal it looks to us. That is exactly what TND is: love's cry for the acceptance of all "outcasts" regardless of their sins. That cry manifests through an individual who usually isn't even aware of it and certainly didn't choose it. Sometimes it ends in suicide, sometimes in madness, and sometimes in acceptance (of oneself) and forgiveness (of oneself and others), which is the best possible outcome.
Great.
What I’m really getting at is that this kind of memory only surfaces as the recollection of someone still living—because, let's be real, the dead aren't exactly showing up here to testify about how things actually went for them.
Regardless of whether that experience was real or not—and I’m not saying it wasn't—does it actually carry any weight or matter to anyone once the witness is... well, gone?
I still don't get why some people are so hell-bent on framing this thread as an attempt to promote "non-training" martial arts? 😕
Personally, I’m the first one to say that if you aren't approaching training with total seriousness—just pure, relentless practice, sometimes even at the cost of personal sacrifices 😁—then you’ve got nothing. Period. Doesn't matter if it's Aikido, drawing, cooking, or whatever else you want to list.
If I'm reading this right, the goal here is to dive a bit deeper into the spiritual side of things, which I totally support. In my opinion, training without contemplation just turns into mindless automation.
Just like contemplation without actual work becomes pure bullshit. 😁
Being exclusively grounded, or being exclusively spiritual, are both useless extremes. You have to dance right between "heaven and earth."
Someone mentioned earlier that talking about Ki is pointless unless you've spent years practicing a martial art—well, there are plenty of people who understand Ki perfectly fine without ever having stepped foot in a dojo, let alone starting to train Yu.
Ki is just one of many names for prana, orgone, ether, chi, etc.
Maybe if people showed a little less arrogance and a little more an open mind, they'd realize you can actually learn something from this thread that goes beyond just technique. 😉
Of course, you can always choose to stick to the general attitude of the crowd over at Bank of America who just sit back and sneer at what's being posted here. 🙂
And hey, that's your choice. 😉
But anyone who thinks they're always and exclusively right is basically slamming the door on any chance to learn something new.
Every single martial art and every single session is an opportunity to relearn something or gain a fresh insight into what you're doing.
This thread shouldn't be any different.
Nicole Thompson76 said:"The art of peace is a religion that is not a religion; it perfects and completes all religions." — Morihei Ueshiba
So, you don't strictly *need* to understand Omoto-kyo to get the gist. To truly wrap my head around Omoto-kyo, I’d have to be actively practicing it or following it like a disciple—which definitely influenced aikido, sure, but it doesn't define the whole thing.
Look, that first sentence basically gives you the gist of the whole Omoto principle right there—you don't have to be a follower of Omoto to get it. But at the same time, trying to interpret Morihei from a spiritual angle without knowing the core principle is just as incomplete and half-baked. 😉
Btw, Nicole Thompson76, what are you training in?
crimsonbison10 said:Don't worry, Father, everything is under control. We only brought up the physical stuff to keep the casual bystanders on this ridiculous thread from getting a Hollywood-style, romanticized view of martial arts and all the psychological baggage attached to them. I'll just bow out of this "expert" debate now.🙈
Without order and discipline, you've got nothing. Period. The issue is just that discipline isn't the only thing you need to actually achieve something. 🙂
I'm not trying to kick anyone out—this thread could actually be useful for anyone looking to broaden their perspective by seeing the same subject from two different angles. Though, honestly, I think fighters often stay quiet about certain things just because they're terrified of being laughed at, so they just stick rigidly to "the method." 😉
When we all pull together, we can push back against those prejudices... hehehe. 😉
It's just like on the MMA forums; everyone here is still fighting over whose dad is the toughest. Only difference is, the "dad" here is a little less material and a lot harder to spot, hahaha.
bluemason3 said:So now we're suffering because training is hard? Apparently, physical exertion is a taboo subject and a total trigger for everyone's spiritual neuroses. 😬
It feels like everyone’s acting like it’s some massive taboo now. Like, since when did being honest about what it actually takes to get things done become off-limits? It’s becoming a total unspoken rule to pretend those conditions don't exist just to stay polite. What a joke. 😁 🙂
Nicole Thompson76 said:I’m honestly not even sure if I’m reading a thread about a martial art here. Morihei Ueshiba called it the "peaceful art" because you can actually defend yourself without causing massive, unnecessary damage—unlike those old-school styles where the whole goal was basically just to kill someone with a single strike if you got lucky. It wasn't meant to be some mystical way to meditate all day, conjure up transcendental energy, or shoot energy balls out of your palms to knock people out.
But man, everyone in here seems so full of themselves and their "ki." It’s like everyone’s already achieved total enlightenment and tapped into the universal cosmic flow just by sitting around meditating 24/7, while Morihei Ueshiba himself was humble enough to say things like, "I've only realized a small part of it."
At the end of the day, if you don't actually carry that spirit of peace within you, practicing Judo isn't going to magically develop it for you.
You aren't just reading a thread about martial arts; you're reading a thread about the intersection of martial arts and spirituality.
There's barely any difference between some of the people debating here and the crowd on most combat sports forums, so there’s really no point in acting surprised. 😉
Your last sentence hits the mark. And regarding that first paragraph? To actually get what Morihei was talking about, you'd need to understand a huge part of Omoto's teachings too. 😉
Haha, look at this crowd from the local MMA gym... guys, this is about spirituality, so watch your step. I assume you just wandered in here by mistake thinking we were talking about kickboxing. 😉
In other words, we aren't here to obsess over the physical side of things—not that anyone besides you and Belki said it wasn't important. But that’s not what this is about. 😉
Jesse Allen2 said:I think I'm the only one who can truly put it into words consistently. 👍
If you can only say it for yourself and not for the rest of us, then what's even the point? Where's the logic in that? 😁 😳 😉
SU!
😘
Jesse Allen2 said:Hey now, don't go making generalizations!
Fine then. Go ahead. Define "spirituality" in a single word so the whole mind universe actually understands you. 😳 😲 😘
Jesse Allen2 said:I’d argue the exact opposite. Spirituality isn't some vague abstraction or a collection of someone's personal trinkets, despite how many people try to frame it that way to serve their own agendas or hide their own incompetence. That's why you see so much "spiritual" smoke and mirrors being sold off, even in certain martial arts circles that hide behind a veneer of mysticism. On the contrary, spirituality is the most straightforward thing in the universe.
Well, I wasn't saying that isn't true, but I think that's a bad thing.
We could, but I won't.
Spot on—right up until the moment we try to put it into words.
😁 😉
Jesse Allen2 said:What do you mean there isn't? There absolutely is—those religious types are way more aggressive! 😁
Oh honey, just look at how things were going down at the local YMCA maybe two or three years ago. 😉
The worst part? Like 90% of those guys at the YMCA don't even practice anything. They just scream and fight in their heads—they haven't stepped foot on a mat in forever, if ever.
Those religious folks might actually show up to their dojo once in a while. 😁
Jesse Allen2 said:You have to be articulate if you want to be understood. But let’s be clear: being articulate isn't about how many words you can cram into a sentence.
That’s just not true. Starting down a path you don't even begin to grasp is a total dead end. It’s exactly why you see people hitting their mid-life crisis at forty, realizing they spent decades chasing the wrong dream, only to suddenly pivot and open a boutique coffee shop or a local jazz club. They finally wake up to what they actually wanted. 😢
Look, since we're talking about spirituality here, I don't need to be.
In fact, over-explaining is actually counterproductive in this context.
If someone gets it, they get it—regardless of how much I leave unsaid.
🙂
That's just wrong. Diving headfirst into something you have zero clue about, something you don't even grasp, is a total dead end. That’s exactly why you see people after, say, ten years of training, finally realizing it wasn't what they wanted, and then they go out and open their own gyms or whatever.😢
People stumble into things not because they choose to, but because something bigger than them pushes them there. They don't necessarily need to understand the "why" right away. They just get tossed into a situation, and eventually, they figure out if it fits or not. If it doesn't, they move on. Or they don't.
If you want to talk about why people start opening their own gyms, just look at the martial arts scene.
Jesse Allen2 said:You’re missing the forest for the trees again. It’s not about how you start; it’s about how you land. 😉
Start or finish? Doesn't matter. There isn't any difference because there is no beginning and no end—just MU! 🙂