Posts by rapidstag74

Richard Hernandez13 said:The machines aren't actually that stupid—there would always be someone left behind playing the role of the battery.

Didn't the Architect claim machines could somehow fend for themselves?
Maybe they’ve tapped into other power sources... like I don't know, NUCLEAR ENERGY!!! and more !!!

silentcobra6 said:Caught the trailer in theaters before The Matrix Revolutions, and honestly? It looks like a masterpiece. I'm counting down the days. Quentin Tarantino doesn't know how to make a bad movie, and that mix of katanas, blood, and Uma Thurman... just wow.

That trailer was easily the best part of The Matrix Revolutions. Now I'm fully hyped.
The trailer for The Last Samurai was killer, too.
Katanas are everywhere these days. 😁

casualmarlin9 said:The scene where Trinity dies is legendary.

Not really. It’s tedious, dragged out, cliché, and just plain stupid. Since Trinity is a tedious, dragged-out, cliché, and stupid character, her death doesn't move me one bit. Honestly, I was rooting for her to kick the bucket. She’s cold; you can only love her if you stay stone-faced like Neo.
For God's sake, she gets impaled by six or seven metal rods, yet lives long enough to deliver a damn monologue about second chances and other nonsense.

The real issue is that the entire second movie becomes pointless. Everything boiled down to whether Neo could save Trinity. Then, about twenty damn hours later, she dies. What "second chance," you idiot?
LMAO!!! Thanks, Wachowskis, for wasting two and a half hours of my life on nothing. I highly doubt they'll be reloading this one!

Basically, it's not your fault. It's destiny! NO! I chose! Everything is choice! Choice is just a word!

Go screw yourselves, you morons. I hope your next film flops.

Richard Hernandez13 said:It isn't just about the comic book aesthetic. The dramatic structure itself follows that classic superhero formula: setup, action, more exposition, more action—just a repetitive cycle of one after the other.

Don't forget the most cliché part: when characters explain the plot *while* they’re fighting. That’s the worst offender, especially in those old Superman stories.

Richard Hernandez13 said:I don't think the main reason they shot "Reloaded" and "Revolutions" was... money. When sequels are made purely for profit, they follow a low-risk philosophy. The Wachowskis took huge risks with these films.

Here is how I see the progression. The Wachowskis wrote the story. Originally, they planned on it being a comic book series. There were even talks with Marvel Inc. Then they fleshed out the concept and reworked it into a screenplay*. The guy who was supposed to work on the comic helped by sketching out storyboards which they used when they pitched the idea to Warner Bros.

It’s worth noting that Matrix has that comic book DNA. It isn't just some one-off project like Independence Day. They didn't just write a single story; they built an entire universe with its own rules—think Middle-earth or Lucas’s galaxy—where hundreds of stories could live.

Once the movie became a hit, someone (100% Silver) suggested two more installments (because "trilogy" is a magic word). Initially, they considered a sequel and a prequel, but that was scrapped because a prequel would have been too expensive and wouldn't have featured the original cast. That concept eventually morphed into some of those Animatrix shorts (I assume Renaissance 1 & 2).
So, they decided to make a sequel, but split it into two parts.

So, should it have been a trilogy or not? Both. The first Matrix was a complete work, but there was plenty of room for dozens of follow-ups.

There will definitely be comics, graphic novels, books, and maybe even a new trilogy in ten years.

*The screenplay was heavily revised from the original draft. Neo was actually supposed to resurrect and run toward the elevator. That part where Neo becomes essentially omnipotent at the end of the Matrix only appeared in the final version of the script.

Olivia Lopez8 said:SPOILER

Trinity: Neo, but your eyes.....
Neo: It's fine....
🙄 😁

Trinity: "Neo, I'm pregnant."
Neo: "I'm... going to be a father?"
Trinity: "Actually... it's Cypher's."
Neo: "Whoa, dude."

Christian Perez10 said:rapidstag74 replies:

Which part of the script?

What part of the script? Obviously the scene where Neo gets sick—though after reading comments like yours, I'm not sure anyone would have much of an appetite left. You really are clueless.

Go ahead, stay angry. Here’s a quote from Revolutions just to show you things aren't all bleak...
"Your puny powers are no match for my Tiger Fist technique" – Big-Machine-Head to Neo.

Richard Hernandez13 said:Now I'm worried.

I’d actually suggest watching The Animatrix if you want to make sense of this whole mess.
In my opinion, the Matrix mythology—spread across the films, games, anime, and comics (all available on the official site)—is much more cohesive and logical than, say, the Star Wars😈 Expanded Universe.

Trust me, you don't need the Expanded Universe to understand Star Wars. If anything, I'd recommend avoiding that junk altogether. If George Lucas isn't reading it, neither am I.

I'll check out The Animatrix, but I hate that I'm forced to watch shorts, play games, and consume other money-making fluff just to grasp the movies.

Richard Hernandez13 said:The point is. Compromise. A polite word for losing.The machines didn't perform. That's all. To those struggling to get it—watch *Animatrix: The Second Renaissance*, parts 1 and 2.

Damn. It wasn't in the instructions. 😁

If anyone actually cares about the "who" and "why" behind the Matrix, they should just go back and read that previous thread. You aren't going to grasp the mythology unless you sit through all three films, the nine animated shorts, and play the entire Enter the Matrix game. It’s all connected.

Heh. You can bet they would. 😁 Maybe there's still some hidden solution tucked away in the official Matrix branded helmets, t-shirts, or coffee mugs.

There’s a line from the first Matrix: "I'm going to show them a world without you."
Well, damn. It seems Neo forgot about that line, along with the Wachowskis. Not only did we never see that world, but neither did the billions of people still trapped in the simulation. What was the actual point of those next two sequels? It certainly wasn't liberating humanity from bondage. And here I was, foolishly thinking Neo would actually set them free.

amberjackal49 said:I think criticism is pointless because the film didn't just revolutionize the industry; it proved that imagination has no limits.

It's a shame that imagination evaporated while they were writing the next two installments.

The film focuses heavily on special effects that were perfected, and if anyone wants cheap little stories, they can stick to some Ivy League blonde's fluff.

Your point being? The Matrix has special effects that make it a profound breakthrough worthy of praise, whereas the Ivy League blonde produces nothing but fluid sludge filmed just to rake in a quick buck?

For everyone who doesn't appreciate or understand the director's effort, go find some lighter reading.

Am I supposed to adore the film just because THEY put in the work?

Christian Perez10 said:About two years after the first film, a group of scientists said the original script was actually feasible in reality.

😂 Which part of the script?

The Wachowskis absolutely traumatized my childhood.
Well, maybe just for two and a half hours, but I've been dying to get that off my chest.

In *Revolutions*, Trinity looks like an anorexic drag queen with a severe case of anemia.
So, business as usual.

On the bright side, the showdown between the UFOs and the ninjas hit the mark perfectly.

It's a damn shame they cut the scene with the Gospel choir.

Richard Hernandez13 said:Yeah... a little more humor wouldn't have hurt the film. 😉

Are we even talking about the same movie starring Carrie-Anne Moss?

The rules of the Matrix can be bent, not broken. 😁

Melissa Moore32 said:I don't see how this is bad news. If they're already pulling off solid stunts, why not aim for something on the level of Star Wars?

Agreed. As far as I'm concerned, The Matrix and Star Wars possess the same "depth." Or lack thereof. It's all just pure escapism. One draws from mythology, the other from comic books.

northernseal6 said:What do you want to know?

Does Neo dodge bullets?
Does Morpheus die?
Does Monica Bellucci actually serve a purpose in the film? (By "purpose," I mean what GNN was asking)
Are there any scenes involving an orgasmic cake?
Does Neo at least break a sweat to provide some actual tension?
In your opinion, could Captain Kirk in no-shirt mode take on Neo and Smith simultaneously while still delivering a speech about truth, justice, and the American Way?

So many questions... only one movie...

Watch out for spoilers.
I haven't seen it.

nimbletiger68 said:I made it through half of the first Matrix, about ten minutes of the second, and I'm certainly not wasting any more time or money on a third attempt. Do you have a better argument than just "special effects" to convince me to try watching this supposed cult classic again?😕

Neo was cool... kung-fu style!!!
Trinity drool

Not really. 😁

Bryan Barrett said:A total lie.

Heh. You've made the List. 👋>

casualotter21 said:I heard ninjas have some secret explosive that "modern" "Western" "science" hasn't even figured out yet.

Ninja style!!!

Andrew Williams said:But rapidstag74 makes a point (it's raining 😁), it's nonsensical for the Empire to have lasted 20 years without an Emperor. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but shouldn't a nation claiming to be a Kingdom have a monarch?

It's already drizzling here in Miami. 😁

As for me, I know the EU well enough to know it's so full of nonsense that writing a parody would take far too much effort.

William Morris2 said:Didn't Pellaeon eventually reunite the Imperial Republic?

Gilad gathered what was left of the Imperial Army—who were actually stronger than ever at that point—and retreated into what we now call the Imperial Remnant.
I'm not entirely sure if they stepped up to help the Republic during the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion.

northernotter3 said:Once the Emperor died, the Empire wasn't the same entity anymore. Things got messy, fast. You can't wrap all that complexity into one quick sentence. Honestly, it might be worth having a real discussion about this with a larger group of people who actually know their way around the non-film Star Wars lore...

But what’s the point of an Empire without an Emperor? And why wasn't a successor just picked?