Posts by mistyjackal14

@Chris Peterson53 @Brenda Cook4
I actually laid out all my specific concerns regarding the monitoring of the Pope over on the religion board, which is why I included that link earlier.
If the administrators (the ones you both pointed me toward) decide they need more detail, I’ll certainly try to elaborate further on those points.

For the most part, everything you two have asked here was already addressed in that other thread.

But, since you’ve already directed me toward the admins, I figured I might as well expand on this topic—just as I mentioned before—so I don't end up bothering them with every single isolated instance, but rather by presenting the broader picture instead.

The big picture, from my perspective, is that there seems to be a pervasive anti-Catholic atmosphere on the religion board, and if you want proof, look no further than the fact that Christmas wasn't even celebrated back in 2010 (which is exactly what the link from @Brenda Cook4 confirms).

It feels even more telling when you look at how Orthodox Christmas is handled, where right from the jump, a forum member is already worried that the moderator might shut the thread down simply because they aren't fond of Orthodoxy.
From what I can gather, that particular moderator isn't in charge anymore, so perhaps the Orthodox community doesn't face those same existential hurdles, but other Christians—well, at least us Catholics—clearly still do.
It really makes me wonder how an Easter celebration would even go if it hadn't happened to fall on the exact same date as the Orthodox one this year, especially since this whole discussion started with an Orthodox greeting; I can't help but get the impression that Catholics are expected to either just follow the lead of the Orthodox or simply stay out of the way entirely.

Following my objections here, I’ve been directed over to the admins.

In my formal complaint regarding religion, I laid out the issue in great detail,
to put it briefly: the way the coverage of the pope's visit was handled on the official PDF was, in my eyes, quite shameful.

But since I find myself here anyway, let this serve as more than just a pretext; the real reason I'm speaking up is the systematic erasure and relativization of religion, particularly the Catholic faith.

The evidence of this relativism lies in the response I received:

It’s obvious you believe this PDF functions as a specialized Catholic publication!
And because of that, you feel that engaging with people of other faiths or non-believers isn't appropriate—which is the only way to make sense of your conclusion.

So, you see, I wasn't actually asking for a specific topic change; I was protesting the current state of affairs, yet those who shut down threads respond by suggesting that *I* am the one wanting to close them.

And yes, I actually believe the exact opposite—that this PDF acts as a specialized anti-Catholic outlet, which is why the moderation seems to discourage writing intended for believers, as that is the only logical way to interpret their behavior.

As further proof of this bias, look at how the lack of any proper celebration for Christmas occurs; while it used to be observed regularly across several different sub-forums, it has vanished entirely from the religion section.

Once again—and I honestly feel like I’ve lost count of how many times this has happened—our veterans are standing up to show everyone exactly what separates a civilized, self-sacrificing citizen from those who simply take everything without giving a damn.

It really breaks my heart to see things reaching this boiling point, and I truly, deeply hope there’s some kind of sudden breakthrough soon so these service members can finally put this strike behind them and move forward.

Adam Collins4 said:We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂

We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
It's been a few days, and still... radio silence.

So, come on, enlighten us—how exactly did Jadranka Kosor play a part in any of this?

And specifically, how much credit does she deserve for the shares on the open market? (A concept you obviously hadn't considered until I brought it up, though even then, you'd claim Jadranka Kosor was responsible for that too...)🤣

Look, either lay out her actual contributions or just admit you don't know... because from where I'm sitting, you don't have a clue, you're just following orders to glorify Jadranka Kosor.
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
It's been a few days, and still... radio silence.

So, come on, enlighten us—how exactly did Jadranka Kosor play a part in any of this?

And specifically, how much credit does she deserve for the shares on the open market? (A concept you obviously hadn't considered until I brought it up, though even then, you'd claim Jadranka Kosor was responsible for that too...)🤣

Look, either lay out her actual contributions or just admit you don't know... because from where I'm sitting, you don't have a clue, you're just following orders to glorify Jadranka Kosor.
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
It's been a few days, and still... radio silence.

So, come on, enlighten us—how exactly did Jadranka Kosor play a part in any of this?

And specifically, how much credit does she deserve for the shares on the open market? (A concept you obviously hadn't considered until I brought it up, though even then, you'd claim Jadranka Kosor was responsible for that too...)🤣

Look, either lay out her actual contributions or just admit you don't know... because from where I'm sitting, you don't have a clue, you're just following orders to glorify Jadranka Kosor.
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿
It's been a few days, and still... radio silence.

So, come on, enlighten us—how exactly did Jadranka Kosor play a part in any of this?

And specifically, how much credit does she deserve for the shares on the open market? (A concept you obviously hadn't considered until I brought it up, though even then, you'd claim Jadranka Kosor was responsible for that too...)🤣

Look, either lay out her actual contributions or just admit you don't know... because from where I'm sitting, you don't have a clue, you're just following orders to glorify Jadranka Kosor.
It's been a few days, and still... radio silence.

So, come on, enlighten us—how exactly did Jadranka Kosor play a part in any of this?

And specifically, how much credit does she deserve for the shares on the open market? (A concept you obviously hadn't considered until I brought it up, though even then, you'd claim Jadranka Kosor was responsible for that too...)🤣

Look, either lay out her actual contributions or just admit you don't know... because from where I'm sitting, you don't have a clue, you're just following orders to glorify Jadranka Kosor.
I’ve already mentioned to someone else on this board that everyone was actually in agreement regarding the stock, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

Besides, the whole idea of a specific "mechanism" that The Government would need to use to block an acquisition only really matters when we're talking about a hostile takeover.

But clearly, you haven't the slightest idea why that mechanism exists or what it actually does. 🍿

Jerry Robinson56 said:You clearly didn't read that closely. I am providing this for the twenty-fourth time, just for you—and yes, I am aware of the distinction between singular and plural.

We all know Jadranka Kosor has a certain... loose relationship with the truth, but it seems like the speaker might actually be telling it straight this time. If anyone wants to verify whether Jadranka Kosor is being disingenuous, I suppose I’d have to take it up with her personally. 😛.
It is entirely inconsequential at this stage. Even now, they have turned their sights on Putin. 🤣

I have nothing to add to what was previously stated.

As I have previously stated, one learns quickly that Jadranka Kosor is rather loose with her choice of words. And I am not merely offering an opinion here; these are documented facts:

The current political climate surrounding the recent decisions made by the Government has become increasingly predictable, though no less exhausting. It seems we are once again witnessing the inevitable fallout from policies that were drafted behind closed doors, far removed from the scrutiny of the public eye. One cannot help but feel a sense of profound weariness when watching the same players move across the board, executing maneuvers that serve specific interests rather than the common good. It is quite telling how much influence certain individuals continue to wield within the halls of power in Washington, D.C. While the administration attempts to project an image of stability and progress, the underlying reality is one of fragmentation and calculated maneuvering. We see the same patterns repeating themselves—promises made during election cycles that evaporate the moment they reach the White House. There is a particular cynicism required to navigate today’s news cycle without losing one's composure. When you look at the way ExxonMobil and other major corporate entities interact with federal regulators, the "coincidence" of their shared interests becomes almost too obvious to ignore. It isn't just about policy; it's about the architecture of influence that has been built over decades. I find myself reflecting on the sheer scale of the inefficiency. We are told that these shifts in direction are necessary for national security or economic growth, yet the results rarely align with the rhetoric. It feels less like leadership and more like a perpetual exercise in damage control. One must wonder if anyone in the upper echelons of the government actually believes the scripts they are reading, or if it is simply a matter of maintaining the status quo until the next cycle begins. It is a tiresome dance, and frankly, most of us have seen the choreography before.

You have stumbled once again.

You asked for it, and now you have it. Since you’re so insistent, go ahead and demand a formal retraction from the J. f. K. spokesperson yourself.
Don't make a fool of yourself. This was your move.

lp

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I'll admit I was skeptical at first, but seeing as the news has been published and it's being discussed here as well, I suppose it must be accurate. 😂🤣

In light of everything, I'm going to revise my theory about how the "Prime Minister snubbed Michel Platini twice" into something a bit more logical:
The Prime Minister requested that Michel Platini attend the meeting, but the relevant minister essentially locked her in the restroom so he could handle the meeting himself; then, feeling quite slighted, she ended up practically begging Michel Platini to come back, but unfortunately his car got stuck in a pedestrian zone near the Square, and he couldn't make it through the stone gates on Radicev because of the protesters. 🤣.

P.S.
Since you seem to be a bit of a newcomer to the internet, let me offer a small piece of advice. That thing you shared is really just a link reposted story taken from an article in National.😉

Jerry Robinson56 said:http://www.nytimes.com/articles/article-14548.html

After spending about ten minutes slowly making his way toward the White House, Michel Platini turned his car around and left Old Town entirely. This implies the meeting with the Prime Minister was canceled due to the protests. It seems they simply weren't meant to be; this marks the second time Platini has visited Washington, D.C., only to fail in reaching Jadranka Kosor.

Mladen Pavić, spokesperson for The Government, confirmed the reports from journalists, noting that Monsieur Platini preferred to head off to dinner instead.

"There will be no meeting at the White House given the current situation. We don't yet know if the Prime Minister and Platini will reschedule," the spokesperson stated.

😂I truly feel like I have to repeat myself twenty-three times for you to understand. Perhaps you could simply assert that the J. f. K. spokesperson is a liar?
Either we agree on that, or you are simply clueless about what is being discussed.

I have no desire to gloat, but it is frankly shameful to see you being so pedantic.
Frankly, I am fed up with both of them. Kosor was left hanging by a mountain of empty promises; you could see the look on her face when she walked out of the White House after being told the meeting was off. For the French, however, a good dinner always takes precedence over politics.

Regardless, 👍 you are a decent enough person.

Well, at least we're making some progress.🙂

But I have to play devil's advocate for a moment because these sources seem a bit thin, wouldn't you say? Specifically, it looks like it's just National (and maybe Index?) reporting this.😉

Everyone else is writing about Michel Platini, yet only one single outlet is pushing this specific narrative you're describing, which feels a little flimsy to me.
Though, I'm sure you'll eventually find some announcement regarding a meeting between the Prime Minister (not even a cabinet minister, mind you) and Michel Platini.🙂

(To be honest, I can't stand that guy ever since he made such a fool of himself with Edward; this latest obsession with demanding meetings with officials just so he can look down his nose at us is just adding insult to injury.)

Adam Collins4 said:You clearly didn't have a clue what was actually going on with ExxonMobil, though I suppose after looking through the links I sent, you finally grasp the situation enough to soften those rigid little "mechanisms" of yours, but then, like a stubborn child, instead of just admitting you were in the dark, you just resort to pointing fingers and saying "it's you, it's you." 🤣

Do you really have the nerve to look down your nose at me just because I’m offering what feels like a nursery rhyme—though, if we're being honest, perhaps that's exactly the level of intellectual depth one should expect from someone like you? argumentsHonestly, you can't even manage to answer a simple question meant for a child, can you?

At first, you didn't have the slightest clue about how one actually goes about buying ExxonMobil shares or the whole process involved, and now, suddenly, you seem completely lost as to why the Madars didn't just move in for a hostile takeover. Is it possible that we are all just missing the bigger picture here?

It isn't really all that shocking that you don't grasp why the Madars didn't just jump straight into a hostile takeover, is it? But what actually is a tragedy here—what’s truly unfortunate—is that you spent all that time pestering me about "mechanisms" when, in the end, you still don't understand the fundamental mechanism that forces the Madars to conduct their acquisitions through offshore funds.

Look, just admit that you don't actually know, and then I'll be more than happy to walk you through it myself. 😉

We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
We're still sitting here waiting for an answer as to which specific "mechanisms" Kosor used to block the ExxonMobil takeover...☕

Don't even get me started on the links, because it's blindingly obvious you haven't read them. Otherwise, you wouldn't be claiming that "heroic Jadranka Kosor"—who was a week late to react and clearly had no idea what was happening—suddenly fixed everything single-handedly...😂
I've already mentioned this before (to someone else on this board, actually), but everyone was actually in agreement regarding the takeover, including the opposition, so it seems the only person left out of the loop was you, which explains why you're feeling so slighted right now.

When we talk about a concrete "mechanism" as a way for The Government to block an acquisition, that concept really only becomes relevant in the context of a hostile takeover, doesn't it?

But clearly, you don't quite grasp the reasoning behind why that would be necessary or how such a mechanism even functions. 🍿

Adam Collins4 said:Me, I had no clue about the stocks on the exchange?

The thing is, you hadn't even mentioned those stocks before, and when I finally pointed them out to you, you went ahead and credited Kosor for it...

But hey, let's get back to basics, since you haven't actually demonstrated any yet...

Exactly what mechanisms did she use, and how precisely did Kosor stop ExxonMobil from being taken over?

And we're talking about the same Kosor who was completely oblivious to ExxonMobil's initiative and took a week just to respond...

Let's be real here—you clearly have no idea, yet somehow she gets all the credit... though apparently only in the minds of people who can never quite explain the methods she used...🤣

Once you FINALLY explain those fundamentals, then maybe we can talk about the holes in the takeover story, because once again, I see you dodging the question—not that your "expertise" hasn't already been thoroughly exposed...

And yeah, if you don't have a grasp on energy—much like Kosor does (despite whatever economic knowledge we thought we saw)—you aren't going to fare much better on the economic front... and I'm not bragging here, I'm just stating facts... and the fact is, I've spent more time studying energy than you and Kosor combined during high school...

You clearly didn't have a clue what was actually going on with ExxonMobil, though I suppose after looking through the links I sent, you finally grasp the situation enough to soften those rigid little "mechanisms" of yours, but then, like a stubborn child, instead of just admitting you were in the dark, you just resort to pointing fingers and saying "it's you, it's you." 🤣

Do you really have the nerve to look down your nose at me just because I’m offering what feels like a nursery rhyme—though, if we're being honest, perhaps that's exactly the level of intellectual depth one should expect from someone like you? argumentsHonestly, you can't even manage to answer a simple question meant for a child, can you?

At first, you didn't have the slightest clue about how one actually goes about buying ExxonMobil shares or the whole process involved, and now, suddenly, you seem completely lost as to why the Madars didn't just move in for a hostile takeover. Is it possible that we are all just missing the bigger picture here?

It isn't really all that shocking that you don't grasp why the Madars didn't just jump straight into a hostile takeover, is it? But what actually is a tragedy here—what’s truly unfortunate—is that you spent all that time pestering me about "mechanisms" when, in the end, you still don't understand the fundamental mechanism that forces the Madars to conduct their acquisitions through offshore funds.

Look, just admit that you don't actually know, and then I'll be more than happy to walk you through it myself. 😉

Jerry Robinson56 said:Are you even reading? It hasn't been repeated enough times for you to grasp it.

***Upon arriving in Washington, D.C., Platin was in no mood for press statements and headed straight for Times Square for his scheduled meeting with the American Prime Minister. As announced, aside from the meeting with Jadranka Kosor, Platin will have no other appointments. ***



The crux of the matter is that Jadranka Kosor is simply demonstrating her proficiency in the 🤣English language
to an ordinary Canadian traveler.

Would you have me say that everyone is lying and only J. f. K. speaks the truth? Forgive me, and forgive Andrija Hebrang.

There is nothing pleasant about stating the truth when the truth happens to be ugly.

quote:

"The President of UEFA, Michel Platini, met with the American President Ivo Josipović at his own request. The previously scheduled meeting with Jadranka Kosor fell through due to protests near Times Square, according to the Associated Press."

Meeting with Josipović on his own terms is entirely logical, given that Josipović acts in the best interests of America.

The meeting with J. f. K. failed because of the protests. J. f. K. was waiting, but they couldn't reach her.

Are you having difficulty grasping the situation? Read it more carefully if you haven't already, or perhaps have someone read it to you. I am happy to explain it once more.
Furthermore, what is the issue with seeing aggressors of any kind prosecuted? If you identify with them, your agitation is understandable, but do try to think clearly.

lp

That’s what I’m trying to tell you; you take Platini seriously, which is fine, and you don't take Kosor seriously, which is also fine.

But since you treat him with such gravity and believe everything he says, if you wanted to show that the other side feels the same way, you ought to provide a quote from them, not just from Platini.😉

Therefore, if you were to provide a link showing that Kosor intended to meet with Platini, explaining why she didn't, or anything along those lines, then I would be willing to admit my mistake.

Until then, you should accept the fact that Kosor turned away from Platini twice when he made his demands, while others were receiving him with expedited service and allowing him to look down upon the country and its people.

Jerry Robinson56 said:Who actually controls ExxonMobil now? The Canadians, quite simply.

"May 20, 2010, 10:50:29
AFTER Chevron took management control at ExxonMobil, it wasn't just the CEO, Tomislav Dragičević, who received a million-dollar severance package—thirty other directors received them as well."

Looking for a whitewash?
Hypothetically speaking:

Is the Country the owner of a ship that the captain intends to sink? Why on earth would a captain buy the Titanic?

Honestly, do you even live on this planet? J. F. K. left the office in a hurry while waiting for Platinum.

Look at the date; the numbers don't lie.

And if this isn't clear to you (given it's the Associated Press), then you truly 😕

Yes, and

You have it all wrong, mistyjackal14. Three for three, the sisterhood.

ajajaj

It’s truly a unique situation, isn't it?

So, my point remains that Kosor didn't want to and didn't receive Platini, whereas others did, and all of that happened at Platini's own insistence.

The whole crux of the matter is whether a Prime Minister should be forced to satisfy the demands of someone like Platini.

You keep linking things that actually support my argument, yet you try to explain them through these wild, totally unfounded attacks from Mars.
(Even though he made his first trip to The White House, it wasn't the Prime Minister who received him, but rather a relevant cabinet minister; however, he insists on having a meeting specifically with the Prime Minister)

The only person who supposedly had a meeting with the Prime Minister was Platini, which makes him seem like a somewhat schizophrenic individual if he's the only one claiming that meeting took place.
After that madman was sent packing a second time, he is more quickly received by another high-ranking official (who, according to your links, hadn't even arranged anything with him), and Platini takes advantage of that exact moment to spit on the American people and the country.

This clearly demonstrates how wise the decision was to tell that delusional man to get lost, and how unfortunate it was that someone else decided to host him.

(Remember, in this specific instance, we are discussing lower-level ranks, handbags, and pins, not ExxonMobil)

Adam Collins4 said:Right, because this is high-level politics, not daycare... so much for deciding who's actually qualified to have a conversation here...

The truth is, you haven't figured out a damn thing. You can spend all day daydreaming if you want, but try explaining how your little fantasies are even relevant first, then we'll talk...

You're spinning things again and twisting my words—where exactly did I say I was waiting for Jocelyn to show up?

Now you're really exposing yourself. Just a moment ago, you were busy praising Jocelyn and her "initiatives" (even though you didn't actually know what they were), and you clearly didn't have a clue how free market stocks work...

Honestly, when it comes to Jocelyn—and you, for that matter—I’m about a hundred times more educated and informed regarding the energy sector...

My point is that Chevron isn't even attempting a serious acquisition because they've set a fixed price and refused to budge, and here you are telling me I don't understand what a hostile takeover is... 🤣

If you knew anything about hostile takeovers, you'd know the basics—which is basically that they don't care about anything and they don't stop until they get what they want—rather than setting a fixed price and saying "take it or leave it."

This whole exchange has been a perfect demonstration of just how little you actually know...

But hey, keep telling us how everything is still Jocelyn's fault (including the free market, despite you having zero clue how it works). Once you figure out *how* she's responsible, let me know...

Let me apologize once more for assuming you were up to speed on the events surrounding ExxonMobil's shares on the stock exchange.
It is quite obvious now that you had no idea until I provided those links, so I apologize for having made that assumption earlier.

And the sheer extent of your ignorance is laid bare by how you claim to be an expert in "energy" within the realm of economics.🤣

By the way, in the event of a hostile takeover, certain "mechanisms" come into play; surely you are aware of which ones, but if you aren't, feel free to ask.☕

Adam Collins4 said:Look, come back when you have something better than these childish little insults...

I have zero intention of answering examples that have absolutely nothing to do with reality...

And I'm not touching those links either; they immediately proved that Jacqueline had no clue what Chevron was plotting, and even when she finally found out, she waited a week to say anything...

So much for Jacqueline's "achievements"...

And you're still sitting there acting like you "know" she deserves credit for something, except the problem is you still don't have a clue *how*...🤣

Not to mention how Jacqueline was somehow responsible for the free market—something you clearly had no idea existed until I brought it up...

And trust me, I am perfectly aware that the Government isn't responsible for this fight, because nobody from the administration has reached out to me regarding my shares—which, for the record, are worth a few hundred thousand dollars (counting my wife's).

And now you're the one lowering the bar for me?🤣😂

Honestly, you actually gave me a good laugh late tonight...

Why don't you try setting the absolute bare minimum requirement first: explain Kosor's actual contribution and her mechanism of influence. Once you meet that basic standard and qualify, then maybe we can talk about raising the bar again...

Is that simple enough for you to grasp?

Is it even possible to find an answer to a simple playground joke, let alone attempt to tackle the heavy complexities of political discourse? One has to wonder if we aren't all just spinning our wheels, trying to apply logic to things that simply don't possess any. 🙄

Actually, I think I finally realized why that hypothetical scenario hit you so hard.

You really don't see how unrealistic this sounds, do you? It isn't some kind of fairy tale where you actually expect Kosor to just show up at your door, sit down with you, lay out the entire situation, listen intently to all your brilliant advice, and then actually follow through on what you said.

And she still hasn't actually done it yet, which is just plain disrespectful if you ask me, though I can say I completely understand why you're feeling so frustrated right now.

Adam Collins4 said:The Canadians aren't even trying to take over ExxonMobil or buy up shares; their offer is still just $933...do some actual research on that, and maybe look into other market prices too...

Then you might realize just how far off the mark your statement really was...

I was just sitting here thinking about how much we often overlook the importance of truly digging into the details when we encounter something new, and it made me wonder if I should perhaps take some time to actually inform myself about this thing that goes by the name... well, you know what I mean. Isn't it always the case that the more we seek to understand the nuances of a subject, the more we realize how little we actually knew to begin with? Does anyone else feel that constant, nagging pull to research every little detail before forming an opinion, or am I just overthinking the whole process? Is there anything more unsettling than the concept of a hostile takeover? It’s one of those terms that sounds so clinical and corporate when you hear it discussed on CNBC, yet when you really sit back and think about the mechanics behind it, it feels almost predatory, doesn't it? You have these massive entities moving like sharks through deep water, circling a target that might not even realize it's being hunted until the trap is already sprung. It makes you wonder about the sheer willpower required to force such a maneuver, and whether there's any room left for ethics when the bottom line is all that matters. Is it just business as usual, or is it something much darker lurking beneath the surface of our modern economy?Maybe then you'd finally start to realize just how little you actually understand about this whole situation.☕

Jerry Robinson56 said:My friend, I already explained this to you—it is a lucrative arrangement. As for how "expensive" it is... isn't the share price actually lower now than when they acquired that initial 25% plus one extra share? Furthermore, don't they maintain absolute control over ExxonMobil? Once again, you haven't answered my point. One shouldn't merely speculate on what you're writing without addressing the actual response. Try again:

The question for you: Ultimately, what would even change if Chevron were the majority owner? Please list the differences.

Where is the profit for the Country in all this?

Fine, it's bad and it's counterproductive. But was it the *only* one? I asked you to identify a good move! Come on, please help me out here.

Give me a break! Twenty-five percent plus one single share?! And what does that actually give them? Who holds the final say?

What constitutes a "good deal"? And I repeat: what would actually change?
Remember that immediately after the takeover, they hiked fuel prices by fifty cents. That should tell you everything you need to know about whether the Canadians truly run ExxonMobil.

Are you aware that kerosene is imported from Canada and there has been zero investment in the facilities here in America (though perhaps things have changed since then, even that speaks to the current state of affairs)?

A question for your enlightenment: Who is the CEO of ExxonMobil?🤣

http://www.poslovni-savjetnik.com/in...ila-u-bankrotu

The colleague didn't host him because she couldn't make it due to the protests; otherwise, I'm sure they would have socialized. Besides, what does Platini have to do with this anyway? No, don't even try to answer that. You still haven't answered the questions above.

**** Aldott

- Our goal is to upgrade ExxonMobil into the leading oil company in Southeast Europe, Aldott concluded.

He also noted there is no new information regarding the negotiations between the Government and Chevron (ExxonMobil's owners) concerning the gas business. The idea is that gas operations should remain within ExxonMobil, while the Government would, in exchange, permit a 10 percent price hike for households to offset ExxonMobil's losses on energy imports.

Source: Forbes ****

Does any of this ring a bell to you? Come on, please, just admit the truth. It isn't your fault.

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First off, you really need to grasp that if Miller holds indisputable and perpetual rights, why on earth would they bother with an overpriced buyout for a mere 4% of shares, especially when that would cost them just as much as that first 25% stake?

Secondly, please understand that contracts aren't set in stone; they can be changed, and one of the primary conditions for making those shifts is simply holding a 51% majority.

If Miller ends up with 51%, you can pretty much forget about any previous agreements made with the Government, because at that point, the company belongs entirely to them.

Jerry Robinson56 said:My friend, I already explained this to you—it is a lucrative arrangement. As for how "expensive" it is... isn't the share price actually lower now than when they acquired that initial 25% plus one extra share? Furthermore, don't they maintain absolute control over ExxonMobil? Once again, you haven't answered my point. One shouldn't merely speculate on what you're writing without addressing the actual response. Try again:

The question for you: Ultimately, what would even change if Chevron were the majority owner? Please list the differences.

Where is the profit for the Country in all this?

Fine, it's bad and it's counterproductive. But was it the *only* one? I asked you to identify a good move! Come on, please help me out here.

Give me a break! Twenty-five percent plus one single share?! And what does that actually give them? Who holds the final say?

What constitutes a "good deal"? And I repeat: what would actually change?
Remember that immediately after the takeover, they hiked fuel prices by fifty cents. That should tell you everything you need to know about whether the Canadians truly run ExxonMobil.

Are you aware that kerosene is imported from Canada and there has been zero investment in the facilities here in America (though perhaps things have changed since then, even that speaks to the current state of affairs)?

A question for your enlightenment: Who is the CEO of ExxonMobil?🤣

http://www.poslovni-savjetnik.com/in...ila-u-bankrotu

The colleague didn't host him because she couldn't make it due to the protests; otherwise, I'm sure they would have socialized. Besides, what does Platini have to do with this anyway? No, don't even try to answer that. You still haven't answered the questions above.

**** Aldott

- Our goal is to upgrade ExxonMobil into the leading oil company in Southeast Europe, Aldott concluded.

He also noted there is no new information regarding the negotiations between the Government and Chevron (ExxonMobil's owners) concerning the gas business. The idea is that gas operations should remain within ExxonMobil, while the Government would, in exchange, permit a 10 percent price hike for households to offset ExxonMobil's losses on energy imports.

Source: Forbes ****

Does any of this ring a bell to you? Come on, please, just admit the truth. It isn't your fault.

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Come on, just admit it, is @Adam Collins4 your twin brother or something?

What protests? What nonsense are you even talking about?

I'll lay it out just for you since you're a fresh face from Reddit, claiming he wanted to meet with Jocelyn but she brushed him off, leaving him stuck meeting with some sports minister instead; then he writes about wanting to meet Jocelyn again in February, but February has come and gone.
To top it all off, in the meantime, he actually met with a high-ranking official and proceeded to hurl insults while being hosted by him.

Hercules said:But honestly, there’s really no point in arguing with people like that; the best thing you can do is just put them on ignore because their brains seem completely set in concrete.
Well, I suppose you have to be somewhat sympathetic toward them, considering their entire Soviet Union collapsed right out from under them.😁

I still find myself holding onto this tiny bit of hope that beneath all that hardened, concrete-like thinking, there might actually be a kind, pure heart beating away somewhere.🙂

William Wright7 said:If I recall correctly, the only ones from the old America who actually had a fascist state were the Americans.

I am literally just trying to explain how every single one of those American states was actually just a Mexican Nazi, fascist, or chauvinistic regime.😉

Richard Wilson4 said:WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?
I’m actually against the richest, most liberal, most modern version of the USA.

But I want to ask the average guy a question: Is breaking away from the US just because we're scared of American nationalism, or do we actually even want an independent country?
I DO, BUT I THINK I'M IN THE MINORITY.

Sure, but since you’re asking if people are actually ready for something like that, you might as well have asked if they were ready for Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

The way you framed that question is logically contradictory.
The exact same thing you’re bringing up here was pushed by the Illyrians and the Communists, and all those lofty, noble ideas ended up flowing through rivers of blood.

Now you are offering people that same choice again—a choice that has been empirically proven not to exist—yet most people still don't believe in evidence, preferring instead to cling to the fairy tales that started it all in the first place.

As for nationalism, I suppose I used the wrong term—can you blame me, I'm not immune to it either?—but what I really meant was the standard Mexican fascism, chauvinism, or Nazism that stirs up resentment against the other nations living alongside them.
They aren't some unique exception in this world, but they seem to love doing it in other countries too; essentially, they first label the country the USA, and then they behave internally as if it were just Mexico.

The issue isn't nationalism in general—any kind of it—the real problem is Mexican fascism.

Richard Wilson4 said:Exactly. You hit the nail on the head.

So let's cut the crap. Are you for an independent America or not?

And I don't mean "independent" just because we're scared of Mexican nationalism.

I'M IN. ANY VERSION OF AMERICA WORKS FOR ME.

Are you trying to revive some sort of Pan-American movement again?!

See, the USA is a lot like communism in that sense; it sounds (at least initially) quite wonderful, but when you look at how things actually play out in practice, it can be absolutely horrific. And what happens if those two evils ever decide to join forces?

The result is a war, and then the people who were advocating for one or the other end up standing there, looking all shocked, claiming that if the USA or communism hadn't existed, the war would never have happened in the first place.
It’s honestly pathetic.

Trying to talk about the USA—any version of it—without mentioning Mexican nationalism is like trying to discuss communism without acknowledging the crimes; it’s just a completely pointless debate.

SUCH A THING SIMPLY DOES NOT EXIST!

What’s actually going on over in Sudan right now, though? It feels like they’re still in the middle of counting up the votes from the referendum, yet somehow the protests have already started breaking out?
If I’m reading the situation correctly, these demonstrations seem to be concentrated in the Muslim regions, following a pattern pretty similar to what we've seen in other Arab nations.

Henry Cox78 said:That tiny truck is actually pretty hilarious. It can barely move—it’s basically just sliding through the mud. 🤣

Check out how many Humvees we got gifted. 🙏😁

This clip should be played whenever someone starts debating whether Germany could have invaded the USSR earlier, maybe back in the fall.🙂
(the whole argument being that they couldn't because of the rain and all that thick, swampy terrain)

It is actually entirely possible that those trucks are working perfectly fine, but since our side just received them recently, maybe they're just spread a bit thin right now. 😬

Ethan Morales22 said:See, now you're finally using some common sense! 👍

Think about it. Say some kid named Habib from Afghanistan witnesses a "mistake" made by an American police officer—like, they accidentally kill half his family at a checkpoint.
Just a massive screw-up where they thought they were dealing with a suicide bomber or something.

Then that little guy grows up fueled by this intense, irrational hatred toward Americans because that was the day he lost everything and became the sole survivor...

Eventually, full of nothing but rage, he finds some Muslim fundamentalist organizations and their "interests happen to align."

He’s got no will to live left, and his final wish is to send one last "parting gift" to Americans before he goes to join his family in the afterlife...

Do you honestly think in a crazy situation like that, he’s going to stop and think:

"Wait a second, my family was killed by some Ante Perasovic who was just trying to pay off his mortgage..."

Hell no! He’s going to hate all of America and everything associated with it! 🤷

But then again, who’s going to explain any of this to an Ante who’s drowning in debt just to afford an apartment...🤷

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Meanwhile, the media is constantly whining about why we didn't pull off that (surrender) back in the '90s.

So, essentially, we are fighting against terrorism down there, yet you are afraid of terrorism. 😵

It's roughly the same logic as saying you shouldn't have fought against the Mexicans and the American People's Army in the '90s because, hey, they might take offense and attack you. 😵