Posts by dustypuma5

northerntiger said:Total drama queen move. 🙂

Besides all that drama queen stuff—trolling, flaming, hating, being petty, or just dragging people—there’s actually this thing called having principles and taking responsibility for yourself and others...

But I guess you wouldn't get that. 😉

northerntiger said:Right. Jebatgaled, we shouldn't be out here writing "War and Peace" in every single thread. 😵
Seriously mods, stop acting like you can just mess with us users who actually care about this place. This forum should be for sharing opinions, not for trying to change the world or pushing some "new" political Messiah. I mean, if we're being real, that whole Oak thread went way past a normal discussion and turned into straight-up political marketing—and isn't that stuff basically paid for by the site owners? 🤔

And you guys need to edit things, especially those illiterate titles, like the one sitting in the Career section for days asking how much banks are paying?

Or are you not allowed to "edit" because being illiterate is considered the author's property? 😁

People have already left this thread (and the whole forum because of it) due to how the mods act, and these were really good members.

Any thread about a party trying to run for office is just political marketing. 😉

Since I was the one who made the most political marketing posts on that thread, and since I'm seeing these complaints more often now, I guess I’m thinking about leaving this forum too.

Despite my hopes that this could be a place with at least a little democracy (as much as a private forum allows), it's pretty clear there are things happening behind the scenes that are totally unfair and go against everything I stand for.

Since this forum exists thanks to us members and its value comes from different people contributing, I think it might be better to just stop writing under these conditions. By posting high-quality stuff, I'm basically just helping a fundamentally broken structure.
That's a hard pill to swallow, I guess.

So, maybe just hold onto your hate, because I see the situation clearly enough without needing you to jump in, and I know how this ends.

What's being ruined here is the basic right of great members to speak up, while instead, they promote rudeness, arrogance, and all the worst parts of internet culture, like trolling and flame wars...
The actual useful text gets deleted, but the hateful posts stay up just so some right-winger can see them, react aggressively, and then go off the rails.

Your negative selection is what brought politics to where it is now—having "professionals" who find ways to bypass every rule to judge and troll others without technically breaking anything. I warned about this before, but sometimes you have to read between the lines of a "screw you" when it's not even said out loud.

So, I think I'm gonna take a break from the politics section. I don't feel like wasting kilobytes explaining this stuff; I'd rather write posts that actually mean something.

P.S. I know you're probably seething over this post, but not every win is a win, and not every loss is a loss. 😉
But I guess you'll never get that, will you...

Jose White18 said::težaparanoja: :Potencijalna:

I never said it *was* happening, just that it could.
Opportunity makes a thief, I guess. 🙂

Don't have vBulletin installed on my end, so maybe a question for the admins...

Is there any way to set it up so regular users can see their own deleted posts, alongside mods and admins? Might stop this whole thing from being an issue.

Also, still waiting on answers to those other questions I asked earlier. 🙂

Also, why’d they delete my post (and the one from Sauron) about how the poet Sutter could be a good fit for the Oak movement?
That post wasn't even off-topic, honestly. It was useful because it talked about whether people actually have the willpower to back a movement like this.

I mean, sure, it was just my subjective take, but I don't think it was harmful.

I guess we should be allowed to talk about people who might join the Oak movement, right? Like, why can't we show the public who they are? That's all I did—just linked a video of Sutter reciting his patriotic poetry.

Which forum rule says that's banned or off-topic? Especially since the moderators were just in here this morning starting a whole debate about voter rolls and dead people on them, which stayed on topic and was actually productive.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:Posts that are totally off-topic or just straight-up trolling get nuked. If they're only partially bad, we just edit them so the okay parts stay.
Whatever, you guys can choose how you want things handled, so I guess I'll respect your wish and stop editing or deleting your stuff from now on.

I mean, if your memory is any good, how many of my posts have actually been edited?

Since I can't see what's been deleted, and since having admins step in is usually a good thing, I'd like to know if deleted posts are being edited first and how the admin team plans to handle this issue.

Because honestly, a moderator could just edit a post before deleting it to make it look clean, and then the admin reviewing everything is just seeing a "sanitized" version of reality instead of what actually happened.
🙂

Also, the posts in this thread are driving me crazy. Especially since last night. I need a mod to explain why my post was nuked—and one from Sauron too—while all these trollish, useless counter-arguments are still hanging around? They don't even add anything to what I think is a solid debate.

I’m asking the admins to check my posts from yesterday that got deleted. I want them to see if they actually broke any rules or if this is just some moderator being biased because, I don't know, maybe this whole topic just bugs them.

It’s basically what my fellow user Sprague would call "thread butchering," and honestly, it's a mess. There's zero reason for it, and it just hurts the forum. When people put effort into making actual, on-topic posts that follow the rules, and then they get wiped, it just kills the motivation to write. It makes it look like the mods are rewarding trolls while punishing anyone actually trying to contribute something meaningful.

Since the mod didn't hit me back on my PM—where I basically said if he wasn't down to debate here instead, we could just move it—I guess he's cool with keeping it here.

So, yeah, a mod edited one of my posts.

I get they have the right to, totally follows the rules and all. But I also know this forum "sees" everything when it's soft deleted, but you can't see what was in an edited post.

And since this whole thread is already a mess and the mod is throwing out useless ad hominem attacks like:

Ryan Vaughn7 said:That makes zero sense to me, I'm just speaking for myself. I'm not playing any kind of prophet or Messiah, and I'm definitely not writing on behalf of the people. Other people on this thread do that. So your comment is just pointless and missed the mark.

So, because mods might mess up sometimes (I mean, they're human and make subjective calls too, right?), I'm asking that content shouldn't be edited, but posts should just be soft deleted so admins can check them if needed.

I know they can edit, but it just feels shady to me.

Also, quick question: do I need to go through all my old posts to see if anything else was changed, or can I just assume my other stuff hasn't been messed with? 🙂

Arthur Thomas said:That’s why people should watch image sizes in the chat, since posts fly by so fast and a bunch of huge images just makes everything look messy.
Plus, being lazy about it feels kinda unprofessional and just... unorganized. 🤷

And honestly, who's actually gonna read through chats where people dump like 15 pages of nonsense every single day?
I wouldn't even bother doing that for $13 an hour, let alone for free. 😳

Chat moderation only works if the mods actually react to user reports.

It's pretty dumb to expect volunteer mods to sit there scrolling through endless pages of chat just to bust someone for using caps lock or an emoji.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:The thread's back on the front page, so we can probably just close this one down.

👋

Thanks, go ahead and lock it.

steeleagle70 said:You've got a thread about the Republican Party that's basically just a fairy tale. They pull in almost all the right-wing votes. If they didn't, they wouldn't have held power for 16 years straight, and all those other conservatives would be sitting in Congress instead of yelling on the streets or on forums.

Most people who actually want to talk about this stuff think the Republican Party is the leftmost party in America. 😳

Just let us talk, for god's sake. What's the big deal if you leave the topic alone, or do you hate us that much that you can't even look at us?

What's the point?

@steeleagle70/">@@steeleagle70

Haha, I guess the front page should just be filled with the specific people and parties that you leftists—and the mods (except for maybe the one guy)—think actually matter, right?

Whatever, fine. But they should probably just update the rules for the Politics section to say it's okay to talk about leftist ideas and trash Sanader and the Republican Party, and call it a day.

steeleagle70 said:There’s basically zero reason to keep those nobodies on the front page right now.

Actually, there is.
This forum isn't some official meeting where spots are handed out based on an election mandate; it's just a place where we talk about whatever the users actually want to talk about.

If a topic catches people's interest and doesn't break the rules, I don't see why it shouldn't be right where the users want it. 🤷

Anyway, the best way to judge if a topic matters is just looking at the view counts—if nobody's posting, the thread dies and becomes irrelevant.

Whether you decide someone is persona non grata or someone else decides that, it's really just a matter of personal opinion.

But look, I'm just asking that the wishes of all the conservative-leaning users be respected so we can discuss our own side too, especially since you liberals have two massive parties and a bunch of smaller ones, while we don't even have one big party to call our own.

Nah, you guys are basically just acting like a litmus test for who's wrong. You just drop a post, and if steeleagle70 disagrees, then that's the final word, I guess.
And don't even get me started on The Family. If Anderson actually gave him the odds and answered him, he’d probably frame it above his bed. He even specialized in monitoring the forum's Uptime just to grab attention, but whatever, it didn't work...

I guess when you two are both against me, that’s just my sign that I'm actually right. 🙂

Thanks for boosting my ego and clearing up all my doubts, I guess.

Maybe just... chill. 😉

Maybe this would work for the politics !!! headline...

🤮 🙂

Seriously, this is just disrespectful. Just put Oak Tree back on the front page. You guys can move your buddies and relatives over to the Mad House or the edges of politics !!!

I mean, I guess we should be allowed to have a debate about one right-wing group (though the Republican Party isn't even really right-wing) in politics !!!, on the front page!

Like, who actually decides that this belongs on the edge of politics !!!?

The OP is basically trying to claim Memphis wasn't shelled too much just because people were firing back at the US Army from buildings, and obviously anyone who gets annoyed and calls him out just gets slapped with a warning or a ban.

Werner Herzog☕

Is this rigged? 😕

Whatever, I'll just post the screenshot right now before you guys start roasting me... 🙈