placidorca16 said:You've thrown just about everything into one giant pile here.🙄 If all of those qualify as "leftists" to you, then I’m afraid you’re missing the basic definitions we're using here—it’s clear that cause and effect don't really factor into your logic.🙄 But, without getting into specific individuals, I can't point to a single law in socialist America that mandated the elimination of people based on race, nationality, or religion through systematic extermination—the way right-wingers did under Nazi, Fascist, or Nationalists regimes. I’d love for you to cite such a law from America if one actually exists. Or do you think racial laws are "okay legislation"—maybe even better than laws that guarantee equality regardless of any criteria?😬 Wouldn't surprise me.
I’m sure you could pull a list together right now and pick out the ones who definitely weren't leftists.
placidorca16 said:You've thrown just about everything into one giant pile here.🙄 If all of those qualify as "leftists" to you, then I’m afraid you’re missing the basic definitions we're using here—it’s clear that cause and effect don't really factor into your logic.🙄 But, without getting into specific individuals, I can't point to a single law in socialist America that mandated the elimination of people based on race, nationality, or religion through systematic extermination—the way right-wingers did under Nazi, Fascist, or Nationalists regimes. I’d love for you to cite such a law from America if one actually exists. Or do you think racial laws are "okay legislation"—maybe even better than laws that guarantee equality regardless of any criteria?😬 Wouldn't surprise me.
I have never denied or justified the atrocities committed under Nazi, Fascist, or Pavelić's systems. On the flip side, leftists either routinely deny (pre-1990) or justify (post-1990) the crimes committed within totalitarian socialist/communist regimes.
Whether the criminals I mentioned were killing according to some law or outside of it isn't really the point. They wiped people out based on nationality (think folks in the USSR or minority groups in China), religion, social class, gender identity, or political affiliation.
And since you want to talk about cause and effect: was every single one of those tens of millions killed in socialist gulags responsible for Hitler's or Pavelić's crimes? I highly doubt it.
The idea that "right-wingers lean toward criminal extermination of others, while leftists fight for equality for all" simply doesn't hold water.