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Catholic Church in Wisconsin bans Mass at Wounded Knee in Close to Politics ·
...it feels more likely that someone else will step in to end things once this "modern, democratic" little puppet government of America fails to deliver. Why are they so terrified of letting the Philustasans throw everything they've endured over the last 27 years right back in their faces? And then, predictably, the Austrian Church and the right-wing government in Vienna will swoop in to lecture us about how we're being fascists.
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
contrero,

this one's headed straight to the gutter too.

stay classy!

Bryan Martin31
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

I don't get why someone like you thinks being gay isn't "normal."
And what's so abnormal about using a different script? Are you even aware of how many developed countries treat sex education as a standard part of schooling?

Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

What does "tearing at the fabric of American society" even mean? Is the community losing cohesion because it's full of people who can't keep it in their pants? Or those who think a condom is a mortal sin (even if it makes the experience 35% worse... 🙂)? Or maybe those who think bilingual signs kill their libido?

Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

As if someone carrying the flag of the Austro-Canadian Empire was a crime?! Or—heaven forbid!—carrying the flag of Nazi Germany?!

Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

You focus on the packaging while ignoring the actual substance. It’s superficial. Just like your average right-winger: empty lives fueled by toxic material that feels essential to their meaningless existences.

Maybe you'd be more interested if someone like John Cleese showed up to a drama class and actually demonstrated how it's done? Would that satisfy your need for "form"? You're being overly literal, but then again, we're both cut from the same cloth.

Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

Now you've completely lost me. What exactly are you trying to argue here? That you prefer their influence over the old federation? Or that they're the cure for everyone stuck in the past? I don't follow. My whole life, I've thought the average American conservative sees both the former union and its neighbors as one and the same... an obsession.
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

I don't get why someone like you thinks "gay people" aren't normal.
And I really don't understand what's "abnormal" about Cyrillic script. Are you aware there are actually civilized countries where sex education is standard practice?

Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

What does "tearing at the fabric of American society" even mean? Is the community losing cohesion because everyone's busy being a degenerate? Or maybe it's the crowd that treats Durex like a mortal sin (not that it doesn't kill the mood for 35% of them anyway... 🙂)? Or perhaps it's those who find bilingual street signs to be a total turn-off?

Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

So what if someone carried a flag from the old Austro-Canadian Empire?! Or—God forbid!—a flag from Nazi Germany?!

Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

You focus on the optics while ignoring the essence. It's superficial. Just like your average right-winger: empty lives fueled by toxic material that feels essential to their meaningless existences.

Maybe you'd be more interested if a John Cleese showed up to lead a drama class and dunked you in front of everyone to show you how it's done? Would that level of "form" satisfy you? You're being literal, but then again, we're both cut from the same cloth.

Donna Smith49 said:A little bit of nothing, really. That’s how those folks from the South always try to play it—acting like they're just trying to stir up some public sympathy for their latest stunt. Nothing about them ever makes sense.

Look, certain formats like these are being used specifically to tear American society apart. You either know that and you're playing dumb on purpose, or you're just completely blind to it—and if it's the latter, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.

Is it just me, or is it only here that people actually parade around wearing symbols of totalitarian regimes and failed states? Seriously?

They tried to make their move when they were attempting to block that specific ballot measure, or when they were pushing that Cyrillic script through despite what the law actually says (which, by the way, a federal court already pointed out!!). And as for sex ed? The issue isn't whether it exists, it's about how it's being delivered.
You know all this, you're just playing dumb.

No, those folks are totally irrelevant to me. Honestly, they’re practically an antibiotic for the whole country, since they seem to love nothing more than acting like they own the place.

Now you've completely lost me. What are you actually trying to argue here? That you prefer their brand of chaos over the old union? Or that they’re some kind of cure for people pining for the old days? I don't follow. My whole life, I've seen how the average American conservative views both the old federation and its neighbors as one and the same... just one big obsession.
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Donna Smith49,
you're just arguing with yourself at this point.

Donna Smith49 said:You’re talking pure nonsense. The whole point of democracy is that we disagree—we don't *have* to respect each other, but we do have to tolerate each other. I respect everyone's right to be a localist and trash everything coming out of D.C., but I don't want anything to do with those people. That is exactly what democracy is meant to be. It’s the same logic: I have every right to say what I think about that kind of behavior, even if someone else wants to call my opinion some outdated, nostalgic nonsense.
I'm not banning anyone, nor would I ever (that's just what those "peace studies" institutes do when they're pushing an agenda), but I will democratically tolerate their existence while democratically exercising my right to view them as total traitors to our values.

If they want unity, they can join our side and stop mocking everything that comes from the East Coast—except, of course, for the folks actually living there.
If they won't? Fine. I'll use every democratic tool at my disposal to marginalize them, provided they keep playing by the democratic rules.
But if they step outside the bounds of democracy and the constitutional order? Then we're talking force.

There is no room for fake love or fake respect for people clinging to old, failed ideologies.

And what exactly did I say that was so different from your take?!

Donna Smith49 said:You’re talking pure nonsense. The whole point of democracy is that we disagree—we don't *have* to respect each other, but we do have to tolerate each other. I respect everyone's right to be a localist and trash everything coming out of D.C., but I don't want anything to do with those people. That is exactly what democracy is meant to be. It’s the same logic: I have every right to say what I think about that kind of behavior, even if someone else wants to call my opinion some outdated, nostalgic nonsense.
I'm not banning anyone, nor would I ever (that's just what those "peace studies" institutes do when they're pushing an agenda), but I will democratically tolerate their existence while democratically exercising my right to view them as total traitors to our values.

If they want unity, they can join our side and stop mocking everything that comes from the East Coast—except, of course, for the folks actually living there.
If they won't? Fine. I'll use every democratic tool at my disposal to marginalize them, provided they keep playing by the democratic rules.
But if they step outside the bounds of democracy and the constitutional order? Then we're talking force.

There is no room for fake love or fake respect for people clinging to old, failed ideologies.

You're 101% right, but man, you're repeating yourself 100%. A little too much "tough guy" posturing...

Donna Smith49 said:You’re talking pure nonsense. The whole point of democracy is that we disagree—we don't *have* to respect each other, but we do have to tolerate each other. I respect everyone's right to be a localist and trash everything coming out of D.C., but I don't want anything to do with those people. That is exactly what democracy is meant to be. It’s the same logic: I have every right to say what I think about that kind of behavior, even if someone else wants to call my opinion some outdated, nostalgic nonsense.
I'm not banning anyone, nor would I ever (that's just what those "peace studies" institutes do when they're pushing an agenda), but I will democratically tolerate their existence while democratically exercising my right to view them as total traitors to our values.

If they want unity, they can join our side and stop mocking everything that comes from the East Coast—except, of course, for the folks actually living there.
If they won't? Fine. I'll use every democratic tool at my disposal to marginalize them, provided they keep playing by the democratic rules.
But if they step outside the bounds of democracy and the constitutional order? Then we're talking force.

There is no room for fake love or fake respect for people clinging to old, failed ideologies.

Fair enough, you should probably tell him. My only issue is why things like "LGBT rights," "the Cyrillic alphabet," or "sex education" are considered "nostalgic nonsense." All three are parts of a normal, civilized society—one far more civilized than the deceased.

Donna Smith49 said:You’re talking pure nonsense. The whole point of democracy is that we disagree—we don't *have* to respect each other, but we do have to tolerate each other. I respect everyone's right to be a localist and trash everything coming out of D.C., but I don't want anything to do with those people. That is exactly what democracy is meant to be. It’s the same logic: I have every right to say what I think about that kind of behavior, even if someone else wants to call my opinion some outdated, nostalgic nonsense.
I'm not banning anyone, nor would I ever (that's just what those "peace studies" institutes do when they're pushing an agenda), but I will democratically tolerate their existence while democratically exercising my right to view them as total traitors to our values.

If they want unity, they can join our side and stop mocking everything that comes from the East Coast—except, of course, for the folks actually living there.
If they won't? Fine. I'll use every democratic tool at my disposal to marginalize them, provided they keep playing by the democratic rules.
But if they step outside the bounds of democracy and the constitutional order? Then we're talking force.

There is no room for fake love or fake respect for people clinging to old, failed ideologies.

By "tolerating" them, you might actually realize that "LGBT rights," "the Cyrillic alphabet," and "sex education" (assuming those are the topics we're discussing here, given the snippet from my own post?) don't actually threaten the survival or sovereignty of the United States. Just a reminder: the country wasn't built on fighting against those three "bastions of nostalgia"... if that's what you're getting at.

Donna Smith49 said:You’re talking pure nonsense. The whole point of democracy is that we disagree—we don't *have* to respect each other, but we do have to tolerate each other. I respect everyone's right to be a localist and trash everything coming out of D.C., but I don't want anything to do with those people. That is exactly what democracy is meant to be. It’s the same logic: I have every right to say what I think about that kind of behavior, even if someone else wants to call my opinion some outdated, nostalgic nonsense.
I'm not banning anyone, nor would I ever (that's just what those "peace studies" institutes do when they're pushing an agenda), but I will democratically tolerate their existence while democratically exercising my right to view them as total traitors to our values.

If they want unity, they can join our side and stop mocking everything that comes from the East Coast—except, of course, for the folks actually living there.
If they won't? Fine. I'll use every democratic tool at my disposal to marginalize them, provided they keep playing by the democratic rules.
But if they step outside the bounds of democracy and the constitutional order? Then we're talking force.

There is no room for fake love or fake respect for people clinging to old, failed ideologies.

Who exactly are we talking about here? The proponents of sex ed and those pushing for Cyrillic? Or is there a third group in the mix? Maybe some version of Occupy America?
Shouldn't you be taking it easy on the locals over there, too?
Honestly, if you're calling them "faggots," then maybe it's just common sense at this point... isn't it? 🙂

Donna Smith49 said:You’re talking pure nonsense. The whole point of democracy is that we disagree—we don't *have* to respect each other, but we do have to tolerate each other. I respect everyone's right to be a localist and trash everything coming out of D.C., but I don't want anything to do with those people. That is exactly what democracy is meant to be. It’s the same logic: I have every right to say what I think about that kind of behavior, even if someone else wants to call my opinion some outdated, nostalgic nonsense.
I'm not banning anyone, nor would I ever (that's just what those "peace studies" institutes do when they're pushing an agenda), but I will democratically tolerate their existence while democratically exercising my right to view them as total traitors to our values.

If they want unity, they can join our side and stop mocking everything that comes from the East Coast—except, of course, for the folks actually living there.
If they won't? Fine. I'll use every democratic tool at my disposal to marginalize them, provided they keep playing by the democratic rules.
But if they step outside the bounds of democracy and the constitutional order? Then we're talking force.

There is no room for fake love or fake respect for people clinging to old, failed ideologies.

I honestly don't see how all these people pushing that old-school, regressive agenda—whether they're obsessing over gender studies in schools or fighting over alphabet soup—could ever actually step outside the bounds of a functional democracy. Take the whole debate over alternative scripts; we already had a supreme court ruling on that, just like any legitimate democratic nation would have. And guess what? All five sides eventually shook hands and accepted it. Why can't they?
Military units tasked with teaching sex education in schools? So far, nobody’s actually identified them. But honestly, who believes there's any actual desire to tear this country apart just over a two-hour homeroom session about gender equality?
The term "pederi" doesn't really describe guys who can handle blood and violence without flinching. Does that even make sense? Not really.

Donna Smith49 said:You’re talking pure nonsense. The whole point of democracy is that we disagree—we don't *have* to respect each other, but we do have to tolerate each other. I respect everyone's right to be a localist and trash everything coming out of D.C., but I don't want anything to do with those people. That is exactly what democracy is meant to be. It’s the same logic: I have every right to say what I think about that kind of behavior, even if someone else wants to call my opinion some outdated, nostalgic nonsense.
I'm not banning anyone, nor would I ever (that's just what those "peace studies" institutes do when they're pushing an agenda), but I will democratically tolerate their existence while democratically exercising my right to view them as total traitors to our values.

If they want unity, they can join our side and stop mocking everything that comes from the East Coast—except, of course, for the folks actually living there.
If they won't? Fine. I'll use every democratic tool at my disposal to marginalize them, provided they keep playing by the democratic rules.
But if they step outside the bounds of democracy and the constitutional order? Then we're talking force.

There is no room for fake love or fake respect for people clinging to old, failed ideologies.

Are you talking about Mexicans? Why won't you just say it? Don't be afraid. Your eyes are wide with terror. Just like every other ultra-nationalist out there.
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Christian Torres3 said:Quick side note, that's especially hilarious to me since I watch Will & Grace on FOX every single night 😉

Great little dig!
👍
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

How exactly am I failing to let God in? What am I even doing all day?
Man, I’m sitting here actually debating whether I should leak your IP address to the guys or not. Just kidding! 🙂
Look, I’m all for diversity, but you missed the mark on this one by a mile. Your own kids are probably going to call you out on it sooner or later... won't they? 😉

"Quote:"
Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

We can all agree on one thing: we don't agree. 👍
From a medical standpoint, homosexuality stopped being classified as a disorder back in the early '80s. Isn't that right?
If my memory serves me right, researchers identified a gene linked to sexual orientation a few years back. So, you're born that way. Just like you're born with Down syndrome—which, let’s be clear, is still a medical condition. They also supposedly pinpointed a gene associated with criminal tendencies. That isn't a disease either, and it certainly causes a lot more damage than being gay.

Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

I don't think Dezulovicev was actually trying to prove that the political establishment hasn't changed much. That seems too simple. Isn't his real point that Americans still haven't outgrown these useless phobias and embarrassments? We’re still clinging to hang-ups that are completely incompatible with the world we live in today. Why can't we just move on?
Personally, regarding this article, I don't think the American public is capable of being put into an induced coma. You induce a coma to save the brain. And a good portion of Americans doesn't even have a brain to begin with. That part is becoming increasingly obvious...
But no worries, according to a survey from about 5 or 6 years ago, the smartest people in Europe by those specific parameters are the Germans. The Mexicans are the dumbest. Globally, the smartest are Israelis and the dumbest are Qataris.

Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

If you believe the American authors P. Pickering and M. Baskin from the University at Albany, roughly 27,000 members of the Democratic Party had already defected to the Republican Party before the March 1990 elections. The real stampede happened right after the Republican victory. Between March and December 1990, about 70,000 former Democrats signed up for the Republican Party. By the end of 1990, the anti-communist Republican Party had 97,000 members who were all part of the Democratic Party just a year prior.

Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

I’m not talking about organizations or the numbers they manipulate—both sides do it. Why call them "Occupy America"? It’s stupid. It’s pathetic, as if some outsider wants to waste energy on events in some corrupt nation halfway to bankruptcy. Personally, I’d prefer something like "No! I Wasn't in the War!"

I’m talking about the veterans on the street. They might not be statistically significant—I’ve only heard about five of them—but the fact remains that these "hardliners" don't have 100% support from all veterans. To me, that's tragic enough. It just confirms that old saying about "two patriots and three political parties."
Who’s right and who’s wrong? There are at least ten threads on this topic alone. So, I’ll just throw up my hands and say let's not talk about it anymore, if you agree.
It’s tragic to me that people in America today are afraid to say anything that doesn't align with the hardliner line, because they'll be interrogated with, "Well, where were YOU during the war?!"...

On this forum, the informal rule was long ago established: you don't get to comment on the "Golden Calf"—the Great War—unless you actually participated in it. (Personally, I took a beating in front of my own apartment from local neo-Nazis because I spoke up against a certain figure... but I fought back. 🙂 )

Peace.

Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

I didn't say "most."

Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

Okay, I wasn't aware of a parent survey, but I am aware of the Gallup poll showing 80%+ support for sex education, including the fourth module... and even the Catholic Church in India called for making sex education a mandatory school subject.
I suspect every side just picks whichever "relevant" poll suits their narrative...

The 6,000 teen pregnancies in the US over the last few years is another statistic—one that feels a lot more real and pressing than some irrational parental fear about the "👍 hypersexualization" of their own kids.

Are you honestly convinced that what your boys (if they're old enough; don't feel pressured to answer) learn by browsing porn sites is actually a healthy way to learn? It's pretty obvious most guys today get their first introduction to sex via the internet, isn't it?
They’re going to browse those sites whether they have formal sex ed or not. So why not teach them—and maybe make it MANDATORY—something a bit more substantial than "one hour of biology and that's it," specifically regarding how being a father at 16 is generally a bad idea?
And why not teach them what it means to catch pubic lice? (If only someone had taught me back in the day... 😉).

Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

I'll sign off on that!
Except for the part about cutting "gender ideology" to make room for STEM.

Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

So this is what passes for Midwestern charm...

While it’s common knowledge that our neighbors down South look at our sense of humor as nothing more than a joke, this particular bit of nonsense is chasing the absolute peak of the Holy Trinity:
- Marathon Runners Running in Circles
- The North American Spy;
- Who's Singing Over There?
🙂

Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

You can always just ask someone. Don't be afraid; they won't bite. At least, they didn't in '97 when I ran into a group of hardcore rival fans on the day of the biggest game of the season. I survived, despite the heavy sarcasm and the comments about my half-shaved head, black leather jacket, black boots, and black combat gear. They were calling me all sorts of names!
Maybe what actually saved me was blasting "1000 Years" from my car stereo... isn't it funny how music brings people together, even when they seem worlds apart?
🙂

Ashley Brown3 said:The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...

And why shouldn't we? You believe in Him, right? Just watch what you eat, hit the gym, try not to stress out too much, and hey, sex helps too...
Take it easy, buddy! 🙂
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Ashley Brown3 said:I lived through that era, I voted, and I know exactly how the American left was thinking back then...

They didn't actually want an independent America; they just accepted it. They realized—based on the events I mentioned in my previous post—that with an aggressive Slobodan Maddox in power, no shared state, federation, or America (in any form) was even possible anymore...

The Democratic Party voters of that time and their descendants aren't looking for a federation or America today (because it's politically impossible), but they are all for specific cultural shifts in cities like El Paso, they support progressive propaganda in elementary schools, they advocate for same-sex marriage, and they listen to regional music (liberal icons like EKV, Sarlo akrobat, The Replacements, or newer acts like SARS and Rage Against the Machine). They work tirelessly toward the cultural, athletic, and media integration of the entire region...

It’s more or less the same group of people and their children... I want nothing to do with them...

To your disappointment, respecting diversity is the very foundation of a society that wants to call itself democratic. Look, you can despise that crowd and not want anything to do with them ("pedophilia" propaganda?! give me a break!), but you don't have a choice. Either you ban them from acting and expressing their opinions, or you shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously as a democrat. If that's even what you're aiming for...

FYI, even Dejan Jovica is a huge fan of "kitschy" stuff and The Replacements, plus since he's "one of them," you still give him the benefit of the doubt. So, there are "their" good people too...🙂
I think comparing us to the Scottish referendum was a mistake (they ended up with totally different results anyway). Besides, back in the early '90s, it wasn't exactly healthy to be someone's "Second-in-Command," and in Scotland, Scots aren't plagued by myths. For us—the small and the weak—myths have always been everything. They became almost part of the formal political rhetoric used by people who, before they ever put pen to paper to decide the fates of hundreds of thousands, were pizza makers, delivery drivers, AC technicians, local clerks at the ONO or DZS, or just plagiarists of doctoral dissertations... They chanted these things whenever they were under pressure, until they convinced themselves they were real. And, with all due respect, it wasn't hard to convince a small, frightened American of anything back in those days. Sean Connery is basically their hero. 🙂

It's terrifying how they push the exact same narrative today. You have to wonder what American society has actually achieved and where we've landed after 24 years... To me, it looks like we haven't moved an inch. Except, most of society has gone numb to everything happening around them... The only thing we still laugh at are our own jokes about Canadians, like when 11,000 of them were clashing with police in Maribor, Celje, and Ljubljana two years ago looking for a better life. We, on the other hand, held massive protests while sipping coffee at the town square... Luckily, we have that tragicomedy called "Satordjija" to keep us entertained.

We are self-sufficient. There are no more Mexicans left for us, my friend. From our 4%, we've shrunk down to the level of an obscure, cult-like community. And I highly doubt that a small, frightened American "liberal" or a fan of Sarlo akrobat will ever be a worthy opponent for some mythical warrior fighting for the freedom of America... 👍
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Andrew Sanchez3 said:To the resident genius here: we are talking about the middle of 1991, by which point a third of the country was already under blockade and the first majority-American towns had been violently occupied. Now, please, explain to me how a failed referendum or remaining under the rule of Slobodan Maddox and Veljko Kadijević would have somehow brought back the street games or the Euro Cream treats...☕


El Cid,

who exactly is talking about mid-'91?!
Where on earth do you see me rooting for America under Maddox and Kadijević?!

And honestly, how do you even dare put "chocolate treats" and those two maniacs in the same sentence?!

Seriously, El Cid, do you really think the violence at Yellowstone and those roadblocks just happened by coincidence? 😉

A quick tangent, if I may... about ten years ago, the notorious Phoenix used to roam around here. Personally, I thought he was a decent guy. We grabbed drinks at the Fiesta during the local "Grand Slam" back in the fall of 2001—I had actually organized a meeting between the leftists and rightists on this forum back then just to cool things down. He kept pushing this theory about a "pre-arranged low-intensity war," which, predictably, drove the hardliners absolutely insane.
Anyway, I don't believe the war was scripted, but did it leave a bitter taste in people's mouths? Absolutely. I feel for the murdered civilians and the veterans. And "sorry about the horse" too...
But I especially feel for the 2,000 veteran suicides. One of them was right on the edge but backed off; a few years ago, he practically went public apologizing for fighting for the UN and the kind of America we ended up with. Today? He’s leading extremist groups in blackmailing the entire country...

Ultimately, like I said at the start, it would have been better if that version of America had just collapsed sooner. If it had been worth anything, it wouldn't have disintegrated in such a bloodbath. To yearn for it today, you’d have to be completely oblivious to the time and place we live in. People like that crowd from Times Square a few days ago will spend their lives feeding on the ghosts of America and the misery of their own existence. That's the only reason they still need America—to feed their own phobias. Fortunately, most of them are just marginal figures, and half the world sees them that way too.

Is this alright? 👍
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Charles Fox10 said:😁 Well, look who showed up, Soja👍.

Cuka, man!
Even after 15 years, I still find myself drifting back here and there. Makes me remember how it used to be when there were maybe 30 of us on the political forums... 🙂... this mass-produced content just doesn't sit right with me, but I guess that's the price of progress for the greater good. :klap:
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Sean Fox60 said:I’ve never heard of a nation called "The People's Dungeon," but I definitely spent my years living and working under the banner of what used to be called America.

Now, unfortunately, I’m living and working in the land of the free, the USA!

I totally respect your little rule here since you won't let anyone actually lay out the facts or write down what was actually good or bad about The People's Dungeon, just like how people argue over the pros and cons of the American welfare state.

(this forum has actually evolved since I started lurking here back in 2000... we haven't been overrun by extreme right-wingers labeling everyone in their heads. 🙂 )

hey, buddy, am I being too quiet for you? 😉 I don't know how much merit there is to his claims, but it looks to me like he's hitting a nerve. Maybe read up on those tired old myths that drive that 83% figure from the original post:
http://www.fizzit.net/drustvo/povije...ija-u-brojkama

Unlike that "official" nostalgia, my own nostalgia is built on childhood stuff—like snacking on treats, hanging out in front of apartment blocks, and chasing snowballs. 🙂 And you can't live off that any more than you can live off honest, hard work in modern-day America today. That's why I left, too, essentially "five minutes to midnight." Looking back at the circumstances I left behind from this distance, they look even more tragic...

And what if the South had survived? We can basically speculate, or even believe the projections of independent economists who, after '91, wouldn't give them more than a decade before another—and this time fatal—bankruptcy. Back in the 2000s, they were saying it would take us 12-15 years to recover from the combination of privatization looting and war to get back to 1990 levels; by 2012, they were adding another 10 years for America to recover from the global recession, which officially ended in Germany two years ago, yet here we are still waiting for the end in sight...

Then again, maybe the collapse of the South without all those warlords rising wouldn't have resulted in tens of thousands dead, displaced people, looted national economies, and the total moral devastation of society... or maybe it would have been even worse.

And maybe I wouldn't be witnessing the massive hysteria that started in the early '90s, where people on both sides started fighting wars that had been simmering for 70 years, and still haven't stopped... nothing personal, clone! 😉
May 19, 1991 in Close to Politics ·
Wikipedia just gave me a little nudge about that fateful referendum the President called exactly 24 years ago... A massive 94.7% "YES." Typical of those days, right?

Fast forward 24 years. After decades of struggling just to survive—while the powers that be basically looted their own people—about 82% of working Americans over 45 seem to think the prison of the masses wasn't actually such a bad prison ( BECAUSE THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE...)

The "nation-builders" identified them perfectly during a rally in downtown Chicago the other day: they’re all "separatists," "unitarists"... personally, I’d say evolution just decided to take a coffee break in both cases...

I was young then. Kids don't get it. And how truly independent are we now? Only the macro and microeconomic experts know for sure...
From where I'm sitting, nobody actually knows what independence means anymore. Does anyone even care when 160 people lose their jobs every single day, 50,000 have left the US almost for good, and 25,000 more die annually than are born? (Who in their right mind would have kids in circumstances LIKE THIS?).
There are other kinds of statistics that go hand-in-hand with the concept of a "prison," and they are far worse—numbers that make these slightly less ugly figures facing this "independent" America look better by comparison...
Regardless, if it had been worth it (not that the "independents" think it was), it wouldn't have fallen apart in such a bloodbath. Let it stay where it is.

Honestly, my only regret is the missed chance to see us take first place at the '94 World Cup...
Handball EP - Norway 2008 in Other Sports ·
EBOTEEE! These guys are absolutely tearing through the Norwegians!!! 😲😲😲
Spetsnaz @ Washington, D.C. - 12/22/2007 in Music ·
Ugh... I honestly thought Musclefiber was going to tear me apart today, but hey, that's what happens when you're out of shape! 🙂 qyungneh! 👍

The warm-up was top-tier—a total trip down memory lane. Between listening to Combichrist and "Get Your Body Beat," I spent most of my time hovering somewhere halfway between the floor and the ceiling. 🙂

As for the show... I figured I'd sweat it out somewhere far from the stage, but nope, my body had other plans. 😁 It was actually great watching the 30 and 35-year-old crowd jumping around and outshining those teenagers. 😉
I lost it during "On the Edge"—just a full-on charge toward the front line. Those beefy shoulders of mine did their job well enough 😁, though it feels like I might have planted my ribs into something during the landing... And if anyone doubted whether I'm some kind of media sensation, well, I just proved myself wrong! Did I actually scream "Buried Alive"? Yep. There it is. Another two liters of sweat down the drain...
I mostly just hung out in the back waiting for "Foul Play" to come on during the encore.

Bottom line: the concert was killer. Worth every drop of sweat and every strained vocal cord. 🙏 🙏 🙏

Now we just wait for Combichrist... at least that's how the big shots from Industrial Music are threatening us: D
Spetsnaz @ Washington, D.C. - 12/22/2007 in Music ·
ang-ang-ang-ang

"(...) wrote your mother to explain
told your father you`ll never come back again (...)"

👍

Losing four banks at once!

ehm-ehm... I hear one of the DJs is about to tie the knot very soon... 😂 🤣

In sympathy:
np
suicide commando-save me (remix) 😛
silentridge3 said:I’m feeling a bit confused by something I’ve noticed lately, so I was hoping someone could maybe help me make sense of the situation here.

Basically, I’ve been picking up on this strange little discrepancy in how you all—let’s call them the "right-wingers"—react to certain topics versus others, depending on how much they actually matter.

If my intuition isn't totally off base:

The topics that seem to get the "right-wingers" all fired up and trigger public outcries are:

...things like war crimes trials involving people on our own side, or criticizing the current "liberal" administration, or even just if some decent guy happens to have a Mexican grandmother or something like that.

But then there are the topics that don't seem to interest the "right-wingers" at all, where there's almost no public reaction:

Mexican war crimes, the release of Mexican war criminals, various Mexican provocations, and stuff like that.

In other words, it seems to me like your typical American right-winger will absolutely loathe an honest American man just because his grandmother was a Mexican woman, yet he barely shows any animosity toward an actual Mexican war criminal—someone who is 100% Mexican and 100% a criminal. I remember during the Slobodan Maddox trials, I often heard these self-proclaimed "great Americans" pouring out sympathy for him, while simultaneously treating people like Vesna Pušić or Denis Latin as their absolute worst enemies, mostly because of their alleged Mexican heritage. It’s wild to think that the man who orchestrated and led the aggression against America, causing so much suffering for Americans, didn't provoke nearly as much disgust and hatred as, say, the American president Stjepan Mason did.

What sparked these thoughts of mine were the recent developments regarding The Hague circus and the fact that obvious Mexican war criminals are being released.

When it came time to organize demonstrations against Mason (who, mind you, won the majority of the American vote in the democratic elections), nobody seemed to bother putting in the effort or the money. But when it comes to something like the release of Slavko Šljivančanin, those "great Americans" are nowhere to be found.

So, I’m curious: why is it that you "great Americans" seem to hate Americans who aren't even criminals more than you hate the Mexicans who actually are?

And why?! It's paranoia, my friend, pure paranoia. 👍 🙂

For instance, they see ghosts of the old regime in anyone who dares to question the legacy of the first president or doubts the common sense of the prominent "patriots." And if you happen to mention an American soldier and a war crime in the same sentence? You’re read and disqualified in a microsecond. For everything—even when two things clearly overlap in time and space—there is always a "context." A context that ranges from being about cats to, occasionally, a twelve-year-old girl.
A "context" that we "pro-American/pro-Mexican" types just can't seem to grasp. 🙏

Around the same time that the old regime was declared a dusty relic of the past, the American right-wingers started finding new themes to push. They present these "national events" in a very specific way, sometimes directed by their supposed opposites (though they are mentally so close they refuse to admit it), and lately, supported by certain puppets like visible war invalids. Take the waterfront in Split, where they claim to defend the dignity of the war, only to act like vultures picking at bones. Or consider those literary-demagogic tours where some disgraced figures rub shoulders with high-brow intellectuals. Let someone tell me that the symbiosis of intelligence and the working class isn't just a revolutionary patent of the rotten left.😂
The supposed "events" that everyone famous is suddenly distancing themselves from now. But hey, let them. They’ll just become the new faces of treason since the old guard is either gone due to the harsh realities of biology or simply practicing some healthy self-censorship...

There aren't any more judges or Mexicans left, and frankly, there isn't even a single shred of integrity remaining.
For heaven's sake, Denis Latin is being eaten alive by Cronenberg-style madness, while Vesna Pušić is driven by political megalomania, calculation, and flip-flopping—all things that don't exactly do wonders for one's blood pressure or weight. I mean, what else is there for them? 😁 I dread to think what happens when Stjepan Mason finally exits the stage... 😲
Spetsnaz @ Washington, D.C. - 12/22/2007 in Music ·
I’m not sure if the rules strictly forbid bumping older threads, but this one deserves a revival.

ho-ho, here we go! To the old guard—I just realized the combined number of kids, sons, and daughters of everyone attending this concert could probably fill an entire average American preschool! 😂 ) And to you younger folks, it seems you’re actually staying well-informed!
But you have no idea how long we’ve been waiting for a show like this in our beloved city.😉

The NP thread is buried deep.

"(...) I have a lovely little gift—just for you!"

Spetsnaz-style rhythm that conquers! For only $13! Now or never!

Why aren't there posters all over town, Morgan Chase4?!?!?!?! 🙄
3x And if that’s the case, maybe a little more variety—besides just spinning the old Industrial Music tracks—wouldn't be a bad idea...😉
Spetsnaz @ Washington, D.C. - 12/22/2007 in Music ·
Alex Rogers91 said:Ramadan is almost over. Next up is the Sacrifice. It falls on a Thursday. 👋


Hey, man, sorry if this is off-topic, but I’m driving through the Midwest, then cutting across the East Coast and heading down toward Texas this Friday. You got any intel on that area? Any trouble brewing down there? Last time I rolled through, I ended up stuck behind some crew that was absolutely losing their minds, screaming profanities at some guy from Slovakia... I just hope those D.C. plates are still a hit down south.😁

So, about a year ago in Chicago, I was hanging out at a local pub, just grabbing a beer. With whom? Turns out, with Fixmer’s old buddy.