Posts by Thomas Nelson25

NLP

1. When people talk about themselves—especially when they start preaching about morality—they’re mostly just lying or exaggerating, which ties right back into 2.
2. Basically, you have to deal with the ego first—that whole persona they put on. I've found that giving out a few compliments can help get someone to open up, but it takes patience because people tend to be defensive and resist it. You’ve gotta be smart about it.

Anthony Perez9 said:Heard it or not, there's massive research happening right now targeting aging itself as a disease. The funding is getting huge. 👍

Some people are even predicting (like our own Korado Korlević) that those of us in our 20s or 30s might actually see a practically unlimited extension of life through rejuvenated bodies.

http://www.sciencealert.com/immortal...ocess-in-worms

That only happens once we merge machines with humans—you know, genes, transhumanism, all that stuff.

..basically, we shouldn't even be aging—I mean, if we aren't supposed to, then what's the point of life existing at all? There's gotta be a reason for aging, but we just need to find a way to toggle that function off in the biological machine's settings—letting the soul hang out in the body longer, keeping the being in this dimension... obviously, we won't be able to stop accidents, and once people become relatively immortal, they'll probably get way more reckless—the longer you live, the higher the odds of some physical mishap. (But hey, maybe that can be fixed by "uploading the mind to an avatar" or through spiritual training where kids learn in school how to reincarnate into a body after a sudden death—assuming they actually want to, of course)

I’d love to be God—or something close to it—just a solo entity without any of that baggage, roles, or archetypal karma. Just me, existing.
Since I'd probably just get lost in the relativity of it all, I guess there wouldn't really be a timeline.

Because they’re just built that way—and yeah, there are definitely different types—planners and analytical editors tend to stay on the sidelines.

Sam Martinez9 said:I misspoke earlier; I meant equitable, not uniform.

In the wild, theft isn't really a thing. Animals might fight over food when they're starving, but a small creature isn't going to go out of its way to rob someone else.

I wouldn't agree with the idea that human morality was programmed by religion.

Of course, certain people get incredibly rich from war. However, when you look at the big picture, war is a net loss for both the victors and the defeated.

Correct, fair, even... those all sound similar, but they aren't the same thing.

Take how we toss food while people are starving—we make all this stuff just to dump it in a trash can after grocery shopping... plus all the plastic waste.

The animal world is nothing but a fight for territory—no ethics, just teeth, beaks, claws, and jaws. Are we animals, or are we descendants of God?

And where does morality come from if not religion? You see kids getting indoctrinated starting in elementary school.

Those elites get rich off wars—literally hundreds of people die. (Makes you feel like the conspiracy theories actually make sense)

Larry Moore83 said:Are you kidding me?
Paradise is just a private playground for whoever can afford the cover charge—it's a total sham. 😁

What kind of flaws?
Society is really just a collection of people hanging out together—what's wrong with simple social connection? 😁

You're asking that now?
Do you mean besides being a representative of the human race?
Take a look in the mirror and you might just wonder... if you aren't some sort of infiltrator yourself? 🤣

deklasirati and therefore irrelevant. 😁

Don't tell me you view morality as some sort of ultimate peak... or something?
Morality isn't something you can simply opt out of—it's not like it's a goal you strive toward or a tool you use as an argument.😁

I still think ethics is a huge factor when we're talking about this.

Sam Martinez9 said:If you look at the total wealth held by humanity today, there is actually enough to go around for everyone. The issue isn't scarcity; it's the distribution. We have a situation where the top 1% of people in America hold more than the bottom 90% combined.

The core of the problem lies elsewhere—it’s pure greed. It’s this compulsive need to hoard. I often think of it like a squirrel frantically stuffing hazelnuts into a hole for a winter it won't survive. The difference is that most people—and I don't just mean the ultra-wealthy, but a huge portion of the population—are sitting on piles of stuff they don't need and will never use. And when the end comes, they certainly can't take any of those gadgets or luxury cars with them.

Then, you factor in war. War doesn't create wealth; it systematically destroys it. It’s pure devastation. You don't get back the homes leveled by a missile strike. During wartime, everything else just grinds to a halt; nothing is being built, nothing is being improved... it's all just stagnation and loss.

So, we are looking at two fundamentally irrational human behaviors.

Yet, for some reason, most people don't see anything controversial about it.

People have been fighting over "fair" distribution since the dawn of time...
(I mean, look at the intro to *2001: A Space Odyssey*—if evolution is real, then all of this carries even more weight... those big questions without answers... if you want to say the world basically acts according to human nature, statistically speaking.)

Basically, in the animal kingdom, grabbing what you can is just how it works.

Human morality, which was largely shaped by religion, is a huge factor here. Humanists usually lean on reason or some kind of logic regarding non-violence—if I'm reading their version of humanity correctly—but that might be a letdown for folks clinging to the hope of a God who acts as judge... someone more powerful and clever, operating without ethical constraints, making it easier to navigate.

War burns through weapons and energy and whatnot, which means the big manufacturers end up winning... so, weirdly enough, there’s a profit motive behind it too, even if it looks totally absurd.

Larry Moore83 said:You also have to consider the fact that what defines a human being is that we don't actually have any natural enemies. By definition, humans aren't under threat; there is no such thing as a "non-human," and neither is there an "overman." So, given those circumstances, I have to ask: what instinct? What survival?
What kind of crisis are we even talking about, for crying out loud...🙂

🤣

Honestly? Pure paradise. 😁

Just checking out how human society actually functions... might be some flaws in there.

So, what even is a person?

And what's wrong with that? He's just being human.
So, what about the superman?

Look, being a decent person isn't exactly easy—it takes actually stopping to figure out the right answer. 😉

Larry Moore83 said:But who is actually manufacturing these crises?
How does the mechanism work, really? You just shout "Crisis!" into the void, and suddenly everyone comes running with their gifts and solutions, right? 🤣

It makes you wonder... isn't there someone out there who is simply addicted to the chaos? 😁

That kind of behavior is just human nature... survival is pure instinct—there’s zero room for logic there, let alone any higher spiritual reality.

It doesn't even matter who's pulling the strings (politicians)—it's about *why* these crises happen. It's pure materialism and wanting control over space and time... basically just greed for the sake of it, which isn't even a necessity. It's just wasting resources.

So, any utopia would need a totally new economy... all those failed "inventions" from the past aren't gonna cut it.

Let's say technology finally unlocks a whole new economy—where resources and energy just aren't an issue anymore. Think along the lines of that Star Trek model.

We'd still probably need some kind of global government, though I don't see it being a democracy at the top level—maybe we keep the democratic stuff for local governance instead.

As for the "spiritual awakening" or whatever you all call this "shift in consciousness"... that’s gonna take generations. It's a slow burn. That said, there's definitely been a trend moving in that direction since the late 70s. We're nowhere near a critical mass for massive societal shifts, but it's enough to keep things relatively peaceful for now.

But look, we both know how it goes—one major crisis hits and people revert back to animals. It all comes down to survival.

Not even—everything just starts looking the same.
I think it really comes down to how much the customer actually knows about what they're buying... basically their whole profile.
As for that "suffering" in a consumerist society—yeah, that makes sense. It’s like this constant stress from being flooded with endless products and info; the brain just hits overload.

Maria Robinson2 said:Right, I said it—and apparently, nobody caught my drift... maybe the universe should just handle its own business—it’s not as if we're required to contemplate every single thing, I guess.

What's there to think about? Either the thought hits you or it just doesn't. 😉

Chris Williams said:God forbid, you could never bother me. You are just some stranger on an American forum. I don't even allow my own inner circle the strength to disrupt, annoy, or irritate me, let alone someone like you.

That is perhaps one of the benefits of spirituality. Once a person finds their inner peace, regardless of how small that oasis might be, they don't permit anyone to come in and start making waves in their internal world.

You know the old saying:

My advantage lies exactly where your flaws are; if you had no flaws, I wouldn't have any advantage at all.

Quite a profound proverb.

No, I'm not familiar with that saying. I am sorry if you felt insulted. I was merely testing the waters to see how thin your tolerance is when your ego is poked. It seems rather thin.

Moving back to the topic:

- A frequent lack of true spirituality manifests as a growing arrogance that makes people feel incredibly superior. I have noticed that many use spirituality to compensate for a total lack of material achievement—things like degrees, careers, property, or a steady income—so they can pose as spiritual teachers or leaders for those who are actually successful in the real world, even if they are lower on the evolutionary scale.

- I have also observed that people already struggling with mental health issues often embark on a spiritual path only to develop even deeper pathologies.

- More often than not, people claiming to be spiritual lose touch with reality, choosing to socialize only within their own bubbles, which frequently leads them straight into cults, followings, or total submission to some spiritual leader.

- These so-called spiritualists begin to reject the small things that make life worth living—the profane, the material, the mundane. Some seem to think it isn't "spiritual" to peel a potato, shovel snow, walk the dog, or read the paper, creating these sharp divisions between the sacred and the secular. They are wrong. Everything is spiritual.

I mean, it depends on what you define as spirituality. Personally, I don't get the people who force that fake positivity—loving everyone, living in a dream world, just constantly convincing themselves they're happy... there’s zero actual spirituality there by my standards. No truth, no originality, no wisdom—just vibes. (Maybe I'm wrong though, I struggle to put these things into words sometimes.)

From what I've seen, this stuff tends to isolate you from the rest of the world. Most people just don't get it—maybe a tiny handful sense something is up, especially those with similar interests, but the vast majority have no clue. If you tell them, they'll just label you a weirdo, so honestly? It's better to just play the part.
For me, I don't care about private religions or following some specific leader.
To keep myself grounded, I stick to real-world jobs and goals, and my creativity naturally flows into this lifestyle... those are the perks. As for the downsides? Hard to say, since I didn't force myself into this—it's just who I am.

So, you actually got a goal in life?
Then you just lock in a routine aimed at that target and boom—that’s it. Look, obviously there’s going to be some friction at first and it takes a minute to get dialed in, but once you're focused, everything just kind of falls into place on its own.

electrictinker26 said:It’s a tough path for Buddhist monks these days. When you live in such isolation, your mind can become a blank slate, making it far too easy for any passing thought to take root as a life goal. That’s really the advantage we have here in the States; we’ve grown so accustomed to constant stimulation that if someone actually wants to pursue spirituality, they aren't distracted by much else.

That 'advantage' is really just—the kingdom of heaven...
according to the Lord.

(so yeah, there are parallels, it all comes down to us)

wearyowl29 said:If I don't want to be healed, who's actually got the authority to do anything to me?

In some cases, even then—they actually believe in that stuff, or they just can ('esp')

wearyowl29 said:The truth is, we might never fully wrap our heads around it. It's obvious that some people possess specific abilities and they know it. They might have even fully developed those skills because of someone else's influence, and then their environment starts labeling them as having "powers," which just reinforces the whole mental program.
A healer can't really do anything if we aren't open to it, ready to receive help... and willing to believe that it actually works. It's a process that can happen in a flash, or it might not happen at all.😲

If it were any different, we'd all be as healthy as a horse and life would be a total breeze!

Supposedly they can work remotely without even our consent. ☕
I'm guessing there has to be some kind of connection or a specific "program" involved—some sort of recognition. Even if those psychics act as intermediaries, you ask about someone, and then somehow that info just clicks into their mind and they see everything... aha. 😁

Sure, it’s totally possible that some people are just born with those kinds of talents.

The idea of the mind influencing biological processes—you know, how an organism works—is a long shot, but maybe? It's like how volcanoes act... you basically have to have faith, like the stories of miracles.
As for the mind affecting physical objects—moving spoons, watches, or whatever—that's a huge stretch. We're pretty much locked in by mass and physics, and science is still out there trying to wrap its head around it all.

Hypnosis used to be this huge, controversial thing until we actually figured it out. Honestly, I think all of this boils down to suggestion. Even spiritual methods work that way... at the end of the day, it's all just programming.

Now just imagine going even deeper than emotional attachment or identifying with consciousness... we're talking about the idea that we’re nothing more than a total illusion—just layers upon layers of masks and concepts. It's basically saying our awareness is incredibly narrow. Honestly, I'm typing this on the fly without any real ability to multitask—not that anyone actually does that effectively, obviously.
(And honestly, I'd guess that’s the main reason people dive into spirituality in the first place—whether it's a vague hunch, a direct experience, or just constantly chasing that state of being. I mean, what do your average "rational" types even know about spirituality anyway?)
So, is this supposed "mystical ecstasy" or those kinds of visions really the absolute peak of what we can achieve within this existence?
Does it actually transcend those abstractions we call subjectivity and objectivity?